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they_o only_o look_v on_o those_o as_o true_a church_n which_o have_v such_o pastor_n who_o they_o approve_v answ_n equivocal_a word_n 1._o if_o they_o approve_v not_o those_o who_o they_o shall_v approve_v it_o be_v their_o sin_n 2._o approve_v be_v either_o of_o the_o necessary_n ad_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o only_o ad_fw-la melius_fw-la esse_fw-la they_o must_v not_o put_v the_o late_a for_o the_o former_a 3._o approve_v be_v by_o a_o govern_n or_o but_o a_o discern_a private_a judgement_n the_o first_o they_o have_v not_o but_o the_o late_a in_o good_a earnest_n will_v he_o have_v all_o the_o people_n take_v those_o for_o true_a pastor_n who_o they_o very_o think_v be_v none_o can_v they_o at_o once_o hold_v contradiction_n and_o if_o they_o must_v not_o judge_v as_o dissenter_n what_o mean_v mr._n dodwel_n and_o such_o man_n argument_n to_o prove_v all_o no_o minister_n that_o have_v not_o succession_n of_o episcopal_a ordination_n must_v not_o the_o people_n on_o that_o account_n 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his_o will_n or_o that_o content_v not_o but_o renounce_v it_o or_o can_v that_o be_v a_o true_a pastoral_n church_n that_o have_v no_o pastor_n very_o we_o be_v but_o upon_o low_a work_n if_o these_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o must_v prove_v sect._n 9_o he_o add_v and_o one_o or_o other_o of_o these_o he_o think_v must_v if_o not_o all_o the_o parochial_a church_n in_o england_n fall_v under_o answ_n i_o read_v these_o word_n of_o the_o dr._n to_o a_o papist_n to_o speak_v mild_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a untruth_n therefore_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o rage_n for_o i_o to_o have_v say_v the_o like_a how_o do_v he_o prove_v it_o nay_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o not_o only_o profess_v the_o contrary_a but_o give_v the_o reason_n p._n 65._o because_o i_o judge_v of_o their_o office_n by_o god_n word_n and_o not_o by_o the_o rule_n which_o deprive_v they_o of_o a_o essential_a part._n and_o 1._o he_o cit_v my_o confession_n that_o those_o that_o i_o hear_v preach_v well_o 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prison_n and_o ruin_v their_o body_n and_o estate_n &_o valeat_fw-la quantum_fw-la valere_fw-la potest_fw-la but_o mr._n glanvile_n and_o many_o of_o you_o tell_v we_o how_o little_a you_o care_v for_o it_o without_o the_o sword_n sect._n 10._o if_o any_o man_n will_v but_o consider_v what_o i_o cite_v out_o of_o greg._n nazianzen_n that_o say_v man_n unfit_a be_v so_o ambitious_a to_o be_v of_o the_o clergy_n that_o the_o clergy_n be_v in_o many_o church_n almost_o as_o many_o as_o the_o laity_n and_o that_o presbyter_n than_o be_v much_o like_o the_o presbyterian_o elder_n save_v that_o they_o have_v the_o power_n of_o word_n and_o sacrament_n though_o they_o seldom_o exercise_v preach_v in_o city_n but_o leave_v that_o to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o number_n of_o their_o acoluthi_fw-la exorcistae_fw-la ostiarii_fw-la lectores_fw-la subdiaconi_fw-la diaconi_fw-la etc._n etc._n make_v up_o the_o great_a body_n of_o they_o and_o the_o very_a boy_n and_o scholar_n that_o be_v 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and_o exercise_v this_o power_n in_o their_o distant_a country_n assembly_n though_o under_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n be_v to_o exercise_v his_o with_o they_o as_o assistant_n so_o that_o the_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o real_o unchurch_v sect._n 12._o p._n 265._o he_o come_v near_o our_o controversy_n but_o first_o false_o state_v the_o question_n suppose_v that_o i_o say_v that_o the_o whole_a power_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v swallow_v up_o by_o the_o bishop_n and_o be_v the_o dispute_v of_o a_o question_n false_o state_v of_o any_o profit_n i_o only_o say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o church-pastor_n or_o presbyter_n have_v three_o essential_a part_n viz._n the_o power_n of_o teach_v the_o church_n of_o conduct_v they_o in_o worship_n and_o govern_v the_o people_n by_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n and_o that_o he_o that_o destroy_v one_o part_n that_o be_v essential_a though_o he_o swallow_v not_o up_o all_o the_o power_n alter_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o 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say_v it_o be_v not_o king_n and_o parliament_n only_o be_v legislator_n but_o if_o this_o be_v legislation_n we_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v any_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o question_n which_o be_v but_o to_o judge_v who_o be_v fit_a or_o unfit_a for_o church-communion_n to_o admonish_v absolve_v or_o excommunicate_v according_a to_o christ_n law_n and_o be_v the_o execution_n of_o christ_n law_n and_o not_o the_o make_n of_o new_a law_n 3._o it_o be_v lie_fw-la sub_fw-la judice_fw-la whether_o the_o thing_n here_o name_v be_v any_o part_n of_o true_a lawful_a church-government_n rule_n of_o discipline_n christ_n have_v make_v enough_o except_o about_o mere_a mutable_a accident_n article_n of_o doctrine_n man_n must_v not_o otherwise_o make_v than_o to_o declare_v what_o he_o believe_v christ_n have_v make_v form_n of_o divine_a service_n command_v to_o all_o other_o the_o apostle_n never_o make_v nor_o that_o we_o find_v appoint_v any_o other_o to_o make_v they_o if_o these_o be_v lawful_a by_o way_n of_o agreement_n of_o many_o church_n this_o be_v none_o of_o the_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o yet_o he_o call_v this_o one_o of_o the_o great_a right_n of_o government_n viz._n make_v rule_n for_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o he_o deny_v to_o have_v any_o constitutive_a government_n sect._n 14._o he_o say_v in_o this_o main_a part_n of_o government_n our_o church_n fall_v behind_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n only_a there_o they_o be_v take_v single_o in_o every_o city_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr that_o be_v 1._o when_o the_o minister_n of_o a_o diocese_n choose_v four_o out_o of_o who_o the_o bishop_n take_v two_o and_o 2._o this_o only_a to_o make_v agreement_n without_o any_o govern_n power_n over_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 3._o and_o this_o only_a about_o general_a regulation_n 4._o in_o either_o unlawful_a or_o doubtful_a imposition_n on_o other_o about_o mere_a accident_n or_o circumstance_n of_o order_n this_o be_v the_o same_o or_o as_o good_a as_o when_o every_o true_a church_n have_v present_a pastor_n personal_o to_o exercise_v the_o executive_a church-government_n call_v the_o key_n by_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n already_o make_v in_o judge_v the_o case_n of_o each_o particular_a person_n as_o to_o his_o title_n to_o church-communion_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n for_o that_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o sect._n 15._o next_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o four_o that_o be_v to_o join_v in_o ordinatiom_n and_o examination_n when_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o the_o make_n or_o govern_v of_o pastor_n which_o i_o be_o speak_v of_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o flock_n 2._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v no_o strange_a thing_n for_o our_o bishop_n to_o say_v that_o both_o in_o convocation_n and_o ordination_n the_o presbyter_n act_v only_o as_o the_o bishop_n council_n and_o the_o bishop_n only_a act_n by_o govern_v authority_n 3._o i_o never_o dispute_v for_o presbyter_n power_n to_o ordain_v as_o essential_a to_o they_o nor_o do_v i_o ever_o meddle_v in_o any_o ordination_n 4._o if_o four_o presbyter_n have_v such_o power_n that_o prove_v not_o that_o four_o hundred_o have_v it_o that_o never_o exercise_v it_o in_o the_o same_o diocese_n 5._o if_o by_o all_o this_o you_o mean_v that_o real_o presbyter_n have_v the_o govern_v power_n of_o the_o key_n it_o condemn_v those_o the_o more_o that_o give_v it_o to_o four_o and_o deny_v it_o to_o four_o hundred_o or_o one_o thousand_o 6._o when_o i_o be_v ordain_v none_o examine_v we_o but_o the_o bishop_n chaplain_n and_o two_o or_o three_o city_n minister_n call_v by_o the_o bishop_n that_o never_o see_v we_o before_o mere_o pro_fw-la formâ_fw-la lay_v hand_n on_o we_o with_o he_o but_o it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o give_v such_o a_o power_n to_o ordain_v sect._n 16._o next_o p._n 267._o he_o
far_o to_o heal_v we_o can_v we_o obtain_v it_o he_o say_v that_o any_o one_o that_o have_v see_v they_o know_v it_o to_o be_v a_o mistake_n to_o say_v it_o be_v publish_v by_o john_n fox_n ans_fw-fr his_o reader_n must_v be_v a_o strong_a believer_n and_o take_v much_o on_o his_o word_n 1._o i_o have_v see_v they_o and_o speak_v with_o man_n of_o great_a understanding_n that_o have_v see_v they_o that_o yet_o judge_v it_o no_o mistake_n 2._o the_o preface_n of_o the_o publisher_n be_v like_o his_o style_n 3._o it_o be_v call_v praefatio_fw-la i._n f._n and_o can_v every_o reader_n know_v that_o i._o f._n mean_v not_o john_n fox_n 4._o ordinary_a tradition_n say_v it_o be_v fox_n and_o what_o shall_v i_o soon_o believe_v in_o such_o a_o case_n instead_o of_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v all_o a_o power_n to_o their_o condemnation_n which_o we_o see_v they_o exercise_v not_o let_v he_o procure_v a_o real_a power_n declare_v and_o grant_v and_o it_o will_v do_v more_o than_o these_o 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shall_v grant_v that_o not_o only_a discipline_n but_o preach_v and_o prayer_n and_o sacrament_n may_v be_v forbear_v hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la in_o the_o present_a exercise_n when_o else_o the_o exercise_n will_v do_v more_o hurt_n than_o good_a 5._o but_o be_v these_o law_n good_a that_o forbid_v it_o and_o shall_v we_o covenant_n never_o to_o endeavour_v a_o alteration_n sect._n 24._o he_o next_o tell_v we_o of_o the_o great_a difficulty_n of_o exercise_v true_a discipline_n which_o be_v most_o true_a and_o seem_v thence_o to_o defend_v the_o forbearance_n of_o it_o with_o we_o answ_n i_o have_v in_o my_o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n and_o oft_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v of_o great_a importance_n to_o christ_n end_n and_o that_o he_o will_v have_v it_o continue_v to_o the_o last_o and_o that_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o practical_a article_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o make_v small_a difference_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n tend_v to_o church_n destruction_n and_o to_o the_o reproach_n of_o christianity_n and_o the_o utter_a undo_n of_o million_o of_o soul_n and_o though_o pope_n and_o prelate_n have_v abuse_v it_o to_o captivate_v prince_n and_o nation_n the_o just_a use_n of_o it_o he_o know_v be_v mention_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o visible_o record_v in_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o several_a age_n though_o some_o erastians_n be_v of_o late_a against_o it_o and_o jesuit_n and_o worldly_a protestant_n can_v dispense_v with_o it_o when_o it_o will_v hurt_v their_o worldly_a interest_n and_o turn_v it_o chief_o against_o god_n servant_n that_o displease_v and_o cross_v they_o sect._n 25._o p._n 284._o he_o say_v the_o want_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o parish_n church_n be_v never_o think_v by_o old_a nonconformist_n destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o they_o answ_n they_o do_v not_o confound_v the_o power_n and_o the_o exercise_n nor_o what_o the_o minister_n office_n be_v indeed_o and_o from_o god_n and_o what_o it_o be_v by_o the_o bishop_n mind_n and_o rule_n of_o conformity_n i_o say_v as_o they_o 1._o the_o exercise_n may_v be_v suspend_v without_o null_v the_o power_n or_o policy_n 2._o they_o be_v true_a pastor_n and_o church_n by_o god_n will_n against_o the_o will_n of_o those_o that_o will_v degrade_v they_o sect._n 26._o but_o suppose_v every_o man_n leave_v to_o his_o own_o conscience_n for_o communion_n 1._o he_o say_v the_o great_a offender_n general_o excommunicate_v themselves_o answ_n 1._o and_o be_v it_o your_o way_n to_o leave_v all_o the_o rest_n to_o their_o conscience_n and_o yet_o to_o preach_v and_o write_v against_o and_o lay_v in_o jail_n dissent_v godly_a people_n that_o communicate_v not_o with_o you_o 2._o and_o be_v not_o all_o these_o offender_n still_o member_n of_o your_o church_n albaspineus_n complain_v of_o their_o roman_a french_a church_n that_o he_o never_o know_v any_o further_a cast_n out_o than_o from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o leave_v still_o to_o 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against_o separation_n than_o he_o do_v do_v the_o dr._n think_v the_o reader_n so_o blind_a as_o not_o to_o see_v that_o beza_n word_n be_v just_a of_o the_o same_o importance_n with_o the_o account_n i_o give_v and_o contrary_a to_o he_o viz._n he_o tremble_v at_o the_o thought_n of_o their_o exercise_v their_o function_n against_o the_o will_n of_o the_o queen_n and_o bishop_n for_o such_o reason_n as_o may_v be_v easy_o understand_v though_o we_o say_v never_o a_o word_n of_o they_o it_o be_v easy_a indeed_o to_o see_v what_o he_o tremble_v at_o and_o why_o he_o name_v they_o not_o which_o he_o will_v sure_o in_o charity_n have_v do_v have_v it_o be_v because_o it_o be_v sinful_a disobedience_n to_o preach_v when_o forbid_a it_o be_v easy_a to_o see_v what_o hurt_v it_o will_v have_v do_v in_o the_o ruin_n of_o preacher_n and_o hearer_n and_o shake_v all_o the_o begin_v reformation_n it_o be_v not_o so_o with_o we_o gualther_n and_o zanchy_a say_v not_o so_o much_o against_o separation_n as_o i_o do_v nor_o john_n fox_n nor_o bullinger_n who_o he_o cit_v we_o say_v the_o same_o sect._n 18._o the_o same_o i_o say_v of_o parker_n and_o gifford_n and_o i_o again_o tell_v he_o that_o he_o may_v name_v many_o more_o hildersham_n paget_n be_o etc._n etc._n i_o be_o of_o their_o judgement_n in_o their_o opposition_n to_o the_o brownist_n but_o it_o be_v a_o notorious_a untruth_n pag._n 33._o that_o the_o force_n of_o all_o the_o nonconformist_n reason_n against_o separation_n lay_v in_o two_o supposition_n 1._o that_o nothing_o can_v justify_v separation_n from_o our_o church_n but_o such_o corruption_n which_o overthrow_v the_o be_v and_o constitution_n of_o it_o etc._n etc._n and_o 1._o it_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o separation_n be_v a_o word_n of_o very_a many_o sense_n they_o hold_v indeed_o that_o none_o aught_o to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n accuse_v it_o to_o be_v none_o but_o for_o that_o which_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v none_o 2._o but_o do_v they_o deny_v that_o which_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n confess_v viz._n 1._o what_o if_o our_o english_a divine_n gather_v by_o bishop_n hall_n against_o burton_n be_v in_o the_o right_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n as_o a_o thief_n be_v a_o true_a man_n though_o i_o think_v otherwise_o must_v not_o such_o bishop_n or_o conformist_n therefore_o separate_v from_o they_o 2._o what_o if_o a_o church_n impose_v some_o lie_n false_a oath_n or_o subscription_n or_o some_o actual_a sin_n in_o worship_n as_o a_o condition_n sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la of_o her_o communion_n be_v it_o not_o lawful_a to_o separate_v into_o better_a assembly_n 3._o what_o if_o they_o put_v down_o all_o preach_n save_o read_v some_o dry_a homily_n and_o all_o discipline_n be_v it_o not_o lawful_a elsewhere_o to_o serve_v god_n better_o but_o of_o this_o more_o after_o where_o he_o repeat_v it_o the_o brownist_n case_n be_v quite_o other_o before_o describe_v sect._n 19_o to_o p._n 36_o 37._o we_o also_o hold_v that_o whosoever_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 1._o as_o have_v not_o that_o preach_a and_o sacrament_n which_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n 2._o or_o as_o not_o profess_v true_a save_a faith_n do_v by_o consequence_n separate_v from_o all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n because_o they_o have_v all_o the_o same_o word_n sacrament_n and_o christian_n faith_n and_o to_o this_o mr._n jacob_n argument_n be_v good_a p._n 38._o though_o he_o be_v the_o man_n that_o answer_v downam_n sermon_n for_o bishop_n and_o esteem_v one_o of_o the_o first_o independent_o and_o mr._n ball_n word_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o the_o second_o supposition_n p._n 39_o we_o grant_v and_o think_v very_o that_o the_o late_a conformist_n have_v say_v more_o against_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n than_o we_o yea_o that_o we_o be_v the_o defender_n of_o it_o against_o the_o brownist_n and_o they_o ball_n bradshaw_n gifford_n hildersham_n etc._n etc._n cite_v by_o he_o defend_v it_o as_o we_o do_v and_o better_a than_o such_o as_o dr._n heylin_n thorndike_n mr._n dodwel_n and_o such_o other_o do_v he_o think_v any_o of_o this_o concern_v i_o sect._n 20._o yes_o for_o p._n 74._o he_o say_v we_o will_v blind_v the_o reader_n by_o find_v out_o the_o disparity_n of_o some_o circumstance_n but_o not_o one_o of_o we_o can_v deny_v that_o it_o be_v their_o judgement_n that_o the_o hold_v separate_a congregation_n for_o worship_n where_o there_o be_v a_o agreement_n in_o doctrine_n and_o the_o substantial_o of_o religion_n be_v unlawful_a and_o schismatical_a answ_n it_o be_v pity_n so_o see_v a_o dr._n shall_v tempt_v man_n to_o be_v so_o blind_a 1._o as_o to_o think_v all_o the_o difference_n which_o i_o have_v name_v inconsiderable_a 2._o and_o to_o go_v on_o to_o
mind_n by_o cite_v four_o of_o their_o book_n against_o brownist_n and_o be_v four_o or_o forty_o time_n four_o all_o but_o mr._n rathband_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o nonconformist_n do_v he_o believe_v that_o he_o mean_v that_o all_o or_o the_o twenty_o part_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n write_v or_o subscribe_v it_o one_o of_o the_o name_n to_o it_o be_v mr._n simeon_n ash_n my_o intimate_a dear_a friend_n who_o judgement_n in_o these_o matter_n be_v the_o same_o with_o i_o who_o i_o be_v with_o even_o in_o his_o sickness_n almost_o to_o the_o last_o hour_n of_o his_o life_n and_o be_v bury_v aug._n 23._o 1662._o the_o day_n before_o the_o law_n have_v else_o silence_v he_o and_o he_o be_v to_o i_o a_o better_a expositor_n of_o his_o own_o mind_n than_o the_o dr._n can_v be_v he_o be_v so_o much_o for_o go_v on_o to_o preach_v that_o his_o motto_n in_o his_o funeral_n ring_n be_v i_o be_o not_o ashamed_a of_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n i_o yet_o keep_v my_o ring_n and_o can_v show_v it_o you_o and_o as_o to_o old_a mr._n langley_n another_o of_o they_o i_o hear_v he_o myself_o preach_v in_o albriton_n church_n in_o shropshire_n a_o thanksgiving_n sermon_n for_o the_o hope_n of_o deliverance_n from_o the_o silence_v bishop_n when_o the_o law_n forbid_v he_o and_o for_o old_a mr._n slater_n i_o hear_v he_o preach_v at_o trinity_n church_n in_o coventry_n when_o the_o law_n forbid_v he_o and_o do_v they_o not_o understand_v their_o own_o write_n better_a than_o the_o dr._n do_v sect._n 23._o and_o i_o will_v i_o know_v how_o to_o prevail_v with_o he_o to_o tell_v i_o whether_o the_o law_n and_o canon_n do_v not_o forbid_v all_o the_o minister_n in_o england_n to_o worship_n god_n according_a to_o the_o directory_n and_o neglect_v the_o common_a prayer_n book_n which_o yet_o almost_o all_o do_v for_o many_o year_n in_o the_o time_n of_o usurpation_n and_o yet_o of_o nine_o thousand_o or_o more_o of_o these_o seven_o thousand_o since_o conform_v to_o the_o 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such_o a_o manner_n disobey_v as_o tend_v more_o to_o the_o common_a hurt_n than_o his_o mistake_n do_v nor_o disable_v to_o govern_v by_o their_o dishonour_v he_o much_o less_o by_o rebellion_n or_o confusion_n 6._o nor_o be_v man_n bind_v to_o cast_v away_o their_o great_a advantage_n for_o god_n service_n which_o they_o then_o have_v on_o pretence_n of_o do_v better_a when_o by_o accident_n it_o will_v do_v more_o hurt_n than_o good_a nor_o as_o bradshaw_n say_v to_o run_v on_o the_o sword_n or_o oppose_v sword_n to_o sword_n or_o raise_v sedition_n and_o ruin_v themselves_o in_o vain_a their_o advantage_n be_v many_o 1._o lawful_a communion_n in_o the_o parish_n church_n 2._o most_o of_o they_o either_o constant_o or_o by_o sit_v have_v public_a church_n or_o chapel_n to_o preach_v in_o and_o be_v still_o in_o hope_n 3._o the_o magistrate_n protect_v they_o and_o the_o reformation_n 4._o they_o hope_v for_o a_o progress_n of_o it_o whereas_o have_v they_o open_o do_v as_o the_o 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and_o their_o own_o mind_n and_o be_v not_o this_o to_o judge_v whether_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n etc._n etc._n or_o not_o and_o who_o shall_v judge_v whether_o the_o disagreement_n be_v in_o substantial_o it_o must_v be_v the_o agreer_n and_o they_o must_v be_v wise_a than_o i_o if_o they_o can_v learn_v from_o you_o here_o what_o be_v a_o substantial_a and_o how_o to_o know_v it_o sect._n 29._o it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v say_v that_o where_o prince_n and_o parliament_n be_v orthodox_n none_o be_v usurper_n but_o true_a pastor_n who_o they_o impose_v ans_fw-fr but_o do_v not_o this_o make_v the_o people_n judge_n whether_o prince_n and_o parliament_n be_v orthodox_n and_o be_v not_o that_o as_o dangerous_a as_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o teacher_n and_o orthodox_n prince_n and_o parliament_n may_v impose_v heretical_a teacher_n and_o may_v by_o law_n enable_v patron_n and_o prelate_n to_o impose_v they_o what_o more_o natural_a than_o to_o propagate_v what_o man_n like_v and_o oppose_v 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objection_n in_o my_o first_o plea_n and_o will_v not_o write_v the_o same_o again_o for_o he_o that_o think_v it_o not_o worth_a the_o answer_n or_o take_v notice_n of_o sect._n 31._o when_o p._n 138_o 139._o he_o make_v it_o the_o way_n to_o all_o imaginable_a confusion_n to_o deny_v 1._o that_o the_o king_n nomination_n of_o bishop_n 2._o and_o the_o patron_n of_o parish_n pastor_n prove_v they_o no_o usurper_n but_o true_a pastor_n be_v he_o not_o a_o unreverend_a dishonourer_n of_o bishop_n himself_o who_o make_v they_o all_o that_o for_o a_o thousand_o year_n hold_v the_o same_o that_o i_o do_v to_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o imaginable_a confusion_n be_v he_o not_o unreverend_a to_o their_o canon_n and_o to_o antiquity_n and_o to_o the_o universal_a church_n itself_o whatever_o in_o his_o three_o part_n he_o cavil_v against_o it_o he_o can_v be_v so_o strange_a to_o church-history_n as_o not_o to_o know_v that_o they_o be_v common_o against_o he_o sect._n 32._o the_o matter_n of_o the_o next_o accusation_n be_v p._n 139_o 140._o have_v say_v plea_n p._n 41._o 42._o if_o any_o make_v sinful_a term_n of_o communion_n by_o law_n or_o mandate_n impose_v thing_n forbid_v by_o god_n on_o those_o that_o will_v have_v communion_n and_o expel_v those_o that_o will_v not_o so_o sin_v i_o add_v if_o any_o shall_v not_o only_o excommunicate_v such_o person_n for_o not_o comply_v with_o they_o in_o sin_n but_o also_o prosecute_v they_o with_o malice_n imprisonment_n banishment_n or_o other_o persecution_n to_o force_v they_o to_o transgress_v this_o be_v heinous_a aggravate_v schism_n ans_fw-fr and_o be_v not_o this_o true_a or_o do_v his_o bare_a repeat_v it_o disprove_v it_o be_v he_o a_o zealous_a enemy_n of_o schisin_n that_o take_v all_o this_o for_o none_o i_o do_v not_o steal_v it_o out_o of_o his_o defence_n of_o archbishop_n laud_n but_o less_o than_o this_o be_v there_o make_v schism_n yet_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o set_v not_o man_n law_n above_o god_n nor_o plead_v for_o persecution_n but_o lest_o the_o repeat_n of_o my_o word_n shall_v shame_v the_o accuser_n he_o have_v two_o handsome_a device_n 1._o he_o put_v comply_v with_o they_o in_o sin_n that_o be_v conformity_n as_o refuse_v instead_o of_o those_o that_o will_v not_o so_o sin_n in_o sinful_a term_n of_o communion_n forbid_v by_o god_n etc._n etc._n 2._o he_o forge_v a_o addition_n as_o i_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o separate_v from_o such_o when_o i_o have_v no_o such_o word_n be_v only_o there_o tell_v what_o be_v schism_n and_o not_o what_o be_v not_o i_o confess_v it_o will_v sound_v odd_o to_o say_v it_o be_v schism_n not_o to_o communicate_v with_o those_o who_o excommunicate_a imprison_v and_o banish_v i_o by_o law_n if_o i_o will_v not_o do_v that_o which_o god_n forbid_v and_o they_o make_v a_o condition_n of_o my_o communion_n for_o i_o must_v not_o sin_n and_o in_o prison_n and_o banishment_n under_o excommunication_n they_o deny_v i_o communion_n and_o yet_o i_o say_v not_o that_o it_o be_v always_o faultless_a for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o execute_v their_o own_o law_n in_o some_o case_n where_o public_a good_a require_v it_o i_o may_v best_o communicate_v with_o they_o as_o far_o as_o they_o permit_v i_o without_o the_o impose_v sin_n till_o they_o do_v execute_v they_o but_o this_o excuse_v not_o their_o schism_n sect._n 33._o p._n 140._o he_o blame_v i_o as_o charge_v he_o with_o the_o silence_v design_n ans_fw-fr i_o do_v warn_v he_o in_o real_a desire_n of_o his_o safety_n if_o defend_v the_o church-law_n and_o endeavour_n for_o our_o restraint_n in_o the_o word_n to_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n if_o preach_v and_o write_v against_o our_o preach_n as_o schism_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n in_o his_o book_n do_v signify_v no_o own_n of_o our_o silence_v i_o be_o glad_a that_o he_o mean_v better_a than_o he_o seem_v who_o can_v have_v think_v otherwise_o that_o have_v read_v 1._o his_o first_o q._n whether_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o those_o that_o give_v order_n to_o limit_v and_o suspend_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ministerial_a function_n q._n 2._o and_o whether_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n may_v not_o just_o restrain_v such_o minister_n from_o preach_v who_o after_o the_o experience_n do_v refuse_v to_o renounce_v those_o principle_n which_o they_o judge_v do_v natural_o tend_v to_o involve_v we_o again_o in_o the_o like_a trouble_n and_o serm._n p._n 42._o the_o church_n of_o england_n endeavour_n after_o uniformity_n be_v acquit_v from_o tyranny_n over_o the_o conscience_n of_o man_n by_o the_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o p._n 54._o condemn_v they_o as_o hard_a thought_n of_o the_o bishop_n that_o in_o cruelty_n they_o follow_v ithacius_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o this_o new_a book_n
be_v it_o his_o own_o â—…act_n or_o be_v he_o therefore_o not_o oblige_v by_o it_o have_v it_o not_o be_v requisite_a that_o you_o shall_v have_v justify_v all_o that_o we_o stick_v at_o as_o unlawful_a before_o you_o charge_v we_o with_o cross_v this_o rule_n sect._n 56._o p._n 204_o etc._n etc._n my_o word_n in_o many_o book_n against_o schism_n be_v cite_v and_o praise_v reader_n he_o tell_v man_n the_o measure_n of_o their_o charity_n and_o church_n communion_n viz._n that_o man_n that_o do_v as_o much_o as_o i_o do_v that_o forbear_v so_o long_o sacramental_a administration_n that_o gather_v no_o church_n that_o hold_v constant_a communion_n with_o divers_a parish_n church_n that_o have_v write_v so_o much_o and_o earnest_o against_o schism_n shall_v yet_o be_v eject_v silence_v pay_v 40_o â—_o a_o sermon_n and_o lie_n in_o jail_n unless_o i_o will_v do_v more_o while_o bishop_n laud_n design_n for_o widen_v the_o church_n door_n to_o the_o papist_n be_v magnify_v by_o heylin_n and_o other_o as_o a_o good_a work_n sect._n 13._o first_o he_o find_v but_o two_o justifiable_a cause_n of_o separation_n but_o p._n 213_o 214._o he_o have_v find_v three_o and_o no_o more_o 1._o idolatrous_a worship_n 2._o false_a doctrine_n impose_v instead_o of_o true_a 3._o make_v and_o impose_v thing_n indifferent_a as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n ans_fw-fr 1._o reader_n do_v you_o remember_v how_o even_o now_o he_o expose_v to_o odium_fw-la the_o people_n judge_v whether_o the_o pastor_n be_v heretic_n and_o now_o they_o may_v separate_v for_o false_a doctrine_n 2._o i_o entreat_v he_o to_o think_v again_o of_o these_o case_n follow_v 1._o what_o if_o the_o worship_n be_v not_o idolatrous_a but_o blasphemous_a or_o utter_o ridiculous_a tend_v to_o contempt_n of_o god_n 2._o what_o if_o it_o be_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n 3._o what_o if_o the_o church_n have_v no_o true_a minister_n i_o be_o glad_a you_o be_v not_o for_o separate_n for_o want_n of_o episcopacy_n or_o 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drunkess_n ignorant_a priest_n to_o the_o church_n of_o a_o wise_a and_o holy_a pastor_n 8._o be_v we_o loose_a than_o pope_n nicholas_n that_o forbid_v man_n to_o hear_v mass_n from_o a_o fornicate_v pricst_a 9_o i_o will_v you_o have_v speak_v to_o edification_n and_o tell_v man_n what_o false_a doctrine_n it_o be_v that_o will_v allow_v separation_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v false_a doctrine_n preach_v or_o only_o impose_v on_o the_o person_n to_o be_v own_v if_o the_o former_a be_v it_o all_o false_a doctrine_n or_o but_o some_o and_o what_o very_o if_o all_o you_o be_v tenfold_o more_o a_o separatist_n than_o i_o for_o i_o look_v to_o hear_v sometime_o some_o word_n of_o false_a doctrine_n in_o most_o pulpit_n even_o of_o conformist_n if_o it_o must_v be_v heresy_n itself_o i_o will_v not_o separate_v for_o once_o hear_v it_o if_o the_o church_n profess_v it_o not_o if_o it_o be_v impose_v error_n that_o you_o mean_v take_v heed_n lest_o you_o justify_v separation_n from_o your_o church_n by_o the_o new_a article_n of_o infant_n certain_a salvation_n and_o when_o both_o arminian_n and_o anti-arminians_a subscribe_v the_o 39_o article_n tell_v we_o whether_o those_o article_n be_v true_a in_o both_o their_o sense_n or_o whether_o the_o sense_n be_v not_o the_o thing_n subscribe_v or_o whether_o one_o half_a of_o they_o shall_v separate_v you_o be_v too_o unmerciful_a to_o yourself_o but_o what_o kind_n of_o church_n shall_v there_o be_v upon_o your_o term_n i_o find_v no_o more_o in_o his_o second_o part_n which_o i_o be_o much_o concern_v in_o chap._n vii_o the_o reply_n to_o his_o three_o part_n the_o beginning_n sect._n 1_o in_o his_o three_o part_n i_o first_o find_v myself_o accuse_v p._n 242_o etc._n etc._n and_o that_o be_v not_o only_o by_o insist_v on_o a_o false_a accusation_n of_o my_o word_n but_o add_v a_o confutation_n of_o himself_o as_o if_o he_o discern_v not_o that_o he_o do_v it_o in_o treat_n of_o concord_n i_o say_v if_o it_o hold_v that_o god_n institute_v only_o congregational_a or_o parochial_a church_n as_o for_o present_a communion_n than_o none_o of_o the_o rest_n institute_v by_o man_n may_v deprive_v they_o of_o their_o privilege_n grant_v by_o christ_n i_o put_v it_o but_o with_o a_o if_o it_o be_v so_o because_o i_o tell_v they_o my_o own_o doubt_n of_o it_o after_o i_o say_v to_o devise_v new_a species_n of_o church_n without_o god_n authority_n and_o impose_v they_o on_o the_o world_n yea_o in_o his_o name_n and_o call_v all_o dissenter_n schismatic_n be_v worse_a usurpation_n than_o to_o make_v and_o impose_v new_a ceremony_n and_o liturgy_n and_o can_v any_o christian_a deny_v either_o of_o these_o but_o he_o say_v this_n suppose_v congregational_a church_n to_o be_v so_o much_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n that_o any_o constitution_n above_o these_o be_v unlawful_a and_o unsupportable_a which_o be_v more_o than_o the_o independent_a brethren_n do_v assert_v and_o be_v any_o word_n of_o all_o this_o true_a 1._o the_o independent_n much_o insist_v on_o this_o i_o refer_v he_o now_o but_o to_o amesii_n medul_a de_fw-fr eccl._n minist_n 2._o do_v the_o word_n suppose_v that_o which_o be_v plain_o except_v in_o they_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v 1._o that_o the_o congregational_a only_o be_v so_o institute_v 2._o and_o that_o other_o be_v not_o set_v over_o they_o by_o god_n 3._o and_o yet_o be_v obtrude_v in_o his_o name_n without_o his_o authority_n 4._o and_o all_o dissenter_n call_v schismatic_n then_o i_o say_v they_o be_v unlawful_a 5._o to_o coufute_v himself_o plain_o he_o confess_v that_o i_o say_v the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o archbishop_n shall_v be_v over_o the_o particular_a church_n as_o successor_n to_o the_o apostolical_a and_o general_a overseer_n of_o the_o first_o age_n in_o the_o ordinary_a continue_a part_n of_o their_o office_n nor_o whether_o patriarch_n diocesan_n lay-chancellor_n as_o officer_n of_o the_o king_n exercise_v magistracy_n be_v lawful_a 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institution_n and_o constitution_n every_o church_n no_o big_a for_o number_n of_o soul_n than_o one_o of_o our_o great_a parish_n have_v a_o bishop_n of_o their_o own_o one_o or_o more_o i_o dispute_v not_o 2._o yea_o that_o for_o the_o first_o two_o hundred_o year_n if_o not_o more_o no_o one_o bishop_n have_v a_o church_n so_o big_a as_o some_o of_o our_o parish_n at_o least_o except_o alexandria_n and_o rome_n and_o even_o of_o they_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o they_o have_v more_o soul_n 3._o that_o after_o by_o degree_n the_o case_n be_v alter_v but_o yet_o after_o there_o be_v many_o meeting_n like_o chapel_n a_o while_n there_o be_v but_o one_o altar_n 4._o after_o that_o those_o chapel_n have_v altar_n but_o so_o as_o that_o at_o certain_a time_n of_o the_o year_n the_o people_n of_o the_o city_n
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