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A36301	Paradoxes, problemes, essayes, characters written by Dr. Donne, dean of Pauls ; to which is added a book of epigrams ; written in Latin by the same author ; translated into English by J. Maine D.D. ; as also, Ignatius his Conclave, a satyr, translated out of the originall copy written in Latin by the same author, found lately amongst his own papers.	Donne, John, 1572-1631.; Mayne, Jasper, 1604-1672.	1652 (1652)	Wing D1867; ESTC R1266	68,704	226

Copernicus and Paracelsus men which tasted too much of their Germany unfit for a Florentine and therefore had provided some venemous darts out of his Italian Arsenal to cast against this worn souldier of Pampelune this French-Spanish mungrell Ignatius But when he thought better upon it and observed that Lucifer ever approved whatsoever Ignatius said he suddenly changed his purpose and putting on another resolution he determined to direct his speech to Ignatius as to the principall person next to Lucifer as well by this means to sweeten and mollifie him as to make Lucifer suspect that by these honours and specious titles offered to Ignatius and entertained by him his own dignity might be eclipsed or clouded and that Ignatius by winning to his side politique men exercised in civil businesses might attempt some innovation in that Kingdom Thus therefore he began to speak Dread Emperor and you his watchfull and diligent Genius father Ignatius Arch-Chancellor of this Court and highest Priest of this highest Synagogue except the primacy of the Roman Church reach also unto this place let me before I descend to myself a little consider speak and admire your stupendious wisdom and the Government of this state You may vouchsafe to remember great Emperor how long after the Nazarens death you were forced to live a solitary a barren and an Eremiticall life till at last as it was ever your fashion to imitate Heaven out of your aboundant love you begot this dearly beloved son of yours Ignatius which stands at your right hand And from both of you proceeds a spirit whom you have sent into the world who triumphing both with Mitre and Crown governs your Militant Church there As for those sons of Ignatius whom either he left alive or were born after his death and your spirit the Bishop of Rome how justly and properly may they be called equivocall men And not only equivocall in that sense in which the Popes Legates at your Nicene Councel were called Equivocal because they did agree in all their opinions and in all their words but especially because they have brought into the world a new art of Equivocation O wonderfull and incredible Hypercritiques who not out of marble fragments but out of the secretest Records of Hell it self that is out of the minds of Lucifer the Pope and Ignatius persons truely equivocall have raised to life again the language of the Tower of Babel so long concealed and brought us again from understanding one another For my part O noble pair of Emperors that I may freely confess the truth all which I have done wheresoever there shall be mention made of the Jesuits can be reputed but childish for this honour I hope will not be denied me that I brought in an Alphabet and provided certain elements and was some kind of Schoolmaster in preparing them a way to higher undertakings yet it grieves me and makes me ashamed that I should be ranked with this idle and Chymaericall Copernicus or this cadaverous vulture Paracelsus I scorn that those gates into which such men could conceive any hope of entrance should not voluntarily flye open to me yet I can better endure the rashness and fellowship of Paracelsus then the other because he having been conveniently practised in the butcheries and mangling of men he had the reason to hope for favour of the Jesuits For I my self went always that way of blood and therefore I did ever prefer the sacrifices of the Gentiles and of the Iews which were perfor med with effusion of bloud whereby not only the people but the Priests also were animated to bold enterprises before the soft and wanton sacrifices of Christians If I might have had my choice I should rather have wished that the Roman Church had taken the Bread than the Wine from the people since in the wine there is some colour to imagin and represent blood Neither did you most reverend Bishop of this diocess Ignatius abhor from this way of blood For having consecrated your first age to the wars and grown somewhat unable to follow that course by reason of a wound you did presently begin to think seriously of a spiritual war against the Church and found means to open waies even into Kings chambers for your executioners Which dignity you did not reserve only to your own Order but though I must confes that the foundation and the nourishment of this doctrine remains with you and is peculiar to you out of your infinite liberalitie you have vouchsafed sometime to use the hands of other men in these imployments And therefore as well they who have so often in vain attempted it in England as they which have brought their great purposes to effect in France are indebted only to you for their courage and resolution But yet although the entrance into this place may be decreed to none but to Innovators and to only such of them as have dealt in Christian businesse and of them also to those only which have had the fortune to doe much harme I cannot see but that next to the Iesuits I must be invited to enter since I did not only teach those wayes by which thorough perfidiousnesse and dissembling of Religion a man might possesse and usurpe upon the liberty of free Common-wealths but also did arme and furnish the people with my instructions how when they were under this oppression they might safeliest conspire and remove a tyrant or revenge themselves of their Prince and redeem their former losses so that from both sides both from Prince and people I brought an abundant harvest and a noble encrease to this kingdome By this time I perceived Lucifer to be much moved with this Oration and to incline much towards Machiavel For he did acknowledge him to be a kind of Patriarke of those whom they call Laymen And he had long observed that the Clergie of Rome tumbled down to Hell daily easily voluntarily and by troupes because they were accustomed to sinn against their conscience and knowledge but that the Laitie sinning out of a sloathfulnesse and negligence of finding the truth did rather offend by ignorance and omission And therefore he thought himself bound to reward Machiavel which had awakened this drowsie and implicite Laitie to greater and more bloudie Vndertakings Besides this since Ignatius could not be denied the place whose ambitions and turbulencies Lucifer understood very well he thought Machiavel a fit and necessarie Instrument to oppose against him that so the skales being kept even by their factions he might govern in peace and two poysons mingled might doe no harme But he could not hide this intention from Ignatius more subtil than the Devil and the verier Lucifer of the two Therefore Ignatius rushed out threw himselfe down at Lucifers feet and groveling on the ground adored him Yet certainly Vasques would not call this idolatry because in the shape of the Devill he worshipped him whom he accounted the true God Here Ignatius cryed and thundred out With so great

way of SATYR Concerning The disposition of Jesuites The Creation of a new Hell The establishing of a Church in the Moon There is also added an Apologie for IESUITES All dedicated to the Two adversary Angels which are Protectors of the Papall Consistory and of the Colledge of SORBON By JOHN DONNE Doctor of Divinity and late Dean of Saint Pauls Printed at London 1653. To the two tutelar Angels Protectors of the Popes Consistory and of the Colledg OF SORBON MOst noble couple of Angels lest it should be said that you did never agree and never meet but that you did ever abhorre one another and ever Resemble Janus with a diverse face I attempted to bring and joyne you together once in these papers not that I might compose your differences for you have not choson me for Arbi●…or but that you might beware of an enemy common to you both I will relate what I saw I was in an Extasie and My little wandring sportful Soul Guest and companion of my body had liberty to wander through all places and to survey and reckon all the roomes and all the volumes of the heavens and to comprehend the situation the dimensions the nature the people the policie both of the swimming Ilands the Planets and of all those which are fixed in the Firmament Of which I think it an honester part as yet to be silent then to doe Galilaeo wrong by speaking of it who of late hath summoned the other worlds the Stars to come neerer to him and give him an account of themselves Or to Keppler who as himselfe testifies of himselfe ever since Tycho Braches death hath received it into his care that no new thing should be done in heaven without his knowledge For by the law Prevention must take place and therefore what they have found and discovered first I am content they speake and utter first Yet this they may vouchsafe to take from me that they shall hardly find Enoch or Elias any where in their circuit When I had surveied all the heavens then as The Larke by busie and laborious wayes Having climb'd up th'ethereall hil doth raise His Hymnes to Phoebus Harpe And striking then His sailes his wings doth fal down back agen So suddenly that one may safely say A stone came lazily that came that Way In the twinckling of an eye I saw all the roomes in Hell open to my sight And by the benefit of certain spectacles I know not of what making but I thinke of the same by which Gregory the great and Beda did discerne so distinctly the soules of their friends when they were discharged from their bodies and sometimes the soules of such men as they knew not by sight and of some that were never in the world and yet they could distinguish them flying into Heaven or conversing with living men I saw all the channels in the bowels of the Earth and all the inhabitants of all nations and of all ages were suddenly made familiar to mee I thinke truly Robert Aquinas when he took Christ's long Oration as he hung upon the Crosse did use some such Instrument as this but applyed to the eare And so I thinke did he which dedicated to Adrian 6. that Sermon which Christ made in praise of his Father Ioseph for else how did they heare that which none but they ever heard As for the Suburbs of Hel I mean both Limbo and Purgatory I must confess I passed them over so negligently that I saw them not and I was hungerly carried to finde new places never discovered before For Purgatory did not seem worthy to me of much diligence because it may seem already to have been beleeved by some persons in some corners of the Roman Church for about 50 yeares that is ever since the Councell of Trent had a minde to fulfill the prophecies of Homer Virgil and the other Patriarks of the Papists and being not satisfied with making one Transubstantiation purposed to bring in another which is to change Fables into Articles of Faith Proceeding therefore to more inward places I saw a secret place where there were not many beside Lucifer himselfe to which onely they had title which had so attempted any innovation in this life that they gave an affront to all Antiquity and induced doubts and anxieties and scruples and after a libertie of beleeving what they would at length established opinions directly contrary to all established before Of which place in Hell Lucifer afforded us hertofore some little knowledge when more then 200. yeares since in an Epistle written to the Cardinall S. Sexti he promised him a roome in his palace in the remotest part of his eternall Chaos which I take to be this place And here Pope Boniface 3. and Mahomet seemed to contend about the highest room He gloried of having expelled an old Religion and Mahomet of having brought in a new each of them a great deluge to the world But it is to be feared that Mahomet will fail therein both because he attributed something to the old Testament and because he used Sergius as his fellow-Bishop in making the Alcoran whereas it was evident to the supreme Judge Lucifer for how could he be ignorant of that which himselfe had put into the Popes minde that Boniface had not only neglected but destroyed the policy of the State of Israel established in the old Testament when he prepared Popes a way to tread upon the necks of Princes but that he also abstained from al Example and Coadjutor when he took upon him that new name which Gregory himselfe a Pope neither very foolish nor overmodest ever abhord Besides that every day affords new Advocates to Boniface his side For since the Franciscans were almost worne out of whom their General Francis had seen 6000 Souldiers in one army that is in one Chapter which because they were then but fresh Souldiers he saw assisted with 18000 Devils the Iesuits have much recompenced those decaies and damages who sometimes have maintained in their Tents 200000 Schollers For though the Order of Benedict have ever been so fruitful that they say of it That all the new Orders which in latter times have broken out are but little springs or drops and that Order the Ocean which hath sent out 52 Popes 200 Cardinals 1600 Archbishops 4000 Bishops and 5000 Saints approved by the Church and therefore it cannot be denied but that Boniface his part is much relieved by that Order yet if they be compared to the Iesuits or to the weak and unperfect types of them the Franciscans it is no great matter that they have done Though therefore they esteem Mahomet worthy of the name of an Innovator and therein perchance not much inferior to Boniface yet since his time to ours almost all which have followed his S●…t have lived barren in an 〈◊〉 and idle concord and cannot boast that they have produced any new matter whereas Boniface his Successors awakened by

he denies the English Nation to be heretiques because they remain in a perpetual succession of Bishops For herein these men have thought it fit to follow in their practise that translation which reads the words of Paul Serve the time and not that which says Serve the Lord. As for the injury which this petty companion hath offered to our Order since in our wrongs both yours and the Popes Majesty is wounded since to us as to your Dictators both you have given that large and anti●…ent Commission that we should take care that the state take no harm we cannot doubt of our revenge yet this above all the rest doth especially ve●… me that that when he cals me Prelate and Bishop names which we so much abhor and detest I know well that out of his inward malignity he hath a relation to Bellarmines and Tolets Sacrilegious Vow-breaking ambitions by which they imbraced the Cardinalship and other Church dignities but herein this poor fellow unacquainted with our affairs is deceived being ignorant that these men by this act of being thus incorporated into the Pope are so much the nearer to their Center and final happiness this chamber of Lucifer and that by the breach of a vow which themselves thought just they have got a new title thereunto for the Cardinalship is our Martyrdom and though not many of our Order have had that strength that they have been such Martyrs and that the Popes themselves have been pleased to transfer this persecution into the other Orders who have had more Cardinals than we yet without doubt for such of ours which have had so much courage new Crowns and new Garlands appropriate to our Martyrs are prepared for them in this their Heaven because being inabled by greater means they are fitter for greater mischiefs We therefore lament the weakness of our Laynez and our Borgia who refused the Cardinalship offered by Paulus 4. and Iulius 3. for in this place and this meeting it is not unfit to say they did so even amongst the antient Romans when they sacrificed to you those sacrifices which offerd any resistance were ever reputed unaccepted and therefore our Bellarmine deserves much praise who finding a new Genius and courage in his new Cardinalship set out his Retractions and corrected all those places in his Works which might any way be interpreted in the favour of Princes But let us pass over all these things for we understand one another well enough and let us more particularly consider those things which this man who pretends to exceed all ancient and Modern Statesmen boasts to have been done by him Though truely no man will easily believe that he hath gone far in any thing which did so tire at the beginning or mid-way that having seen the Pope and known him yet could never come to the knowledge of the Devil I know what his excuse and escape will be that things must not be extended infinitely that we must consist and arrest somewhere and that more means and instruments ought not to be admitted where the matter may be dispatched by fewer When therefore he was sure that the Bishop of Rome was the cause of all mischief and the first mover thereof he chose rather to settle and determine in him than by acknowledging a Devil to induce a new tyranny and to be driven to confess that the Pope had usurped upon the Devils right which opinion if any man be pleased to maintain we do not forbid him but yet it must be an argument to us of no very nimble wit if a man do so admire the Pope that he leave out the Devil and so worship the Image without relation to the Prototype and first pattern But besides this how idle and how very nothings they are which he hath shoveld together in his books this makes it manifest that some of every Religion and of every profession have risen up against him and no man attempted to defend him neither do I say this because I think his doctrin the worse for that but it is therefore the less artificially carried and the less able to work those ends to which it is directed For our part we have not proceeded so For we have dished and dressed our precepts in these affairs with such cunning that when our own men produce them to ens●…re and establish our pupils then we put upon them the majesty and reverence of the Doctrin of the Church and of the common opinions But when our adversaries alledge them either to cast envy upon us or to deterr the weaker sort then they are content with a lower room and vouchsafe to step aside into the rank of privat opinions And the Canons themselves are with us sometime glorious in their mitres and pontifical habits and sound nothing but meer Divine resolutions out of the Chair it self and so have the force of Oracles sometimes we say they are ragged and lame and do but whisper with a doubtfull and uncertain murmure a hollow cloystral or an eremiticall voice and so have no more authority than those poor men which writ them sometimes we say they were but rashly throwne into the peoples ears out of Pulpits in the Homilies of fathers sometimes that they were derived out of such Councels as suffered abortion and were delivered of their children which are their Canons before inanimation which is the Popes assent or out of such Councels as are now discontinued and dead howsoever they remained long time in use and lively and in good state of health and therfore cannot be thought fit to be used now or applyed in civil businesses sometimes we say the Popes voice is in them all by his approbation sometimes that only the voice of those authors from whom they are taken speaks in them And accordingly we deliver divers and various Philosyphy upon our Gratian who compiled them sometimes we allow him the honour and dignity of Diamonds and the nobler sort of stones which have both their clearness and their firmness from this for that they are compacted of less parts and atomes then others are and so is Gratian whom for the same cause sometimes we account but a hill of many sands cast together and very unfit to receive any foundation I must confess that the Fathers of our Order out of a youthful fiercenes which made them dare and undertake any thing for our Order was scarce at years at that time did amiss in inducing the Councel of Trent to establish certain Rules and Definitions from which it might not be lawfull to depart for indeed there is no remedy but that sometimes we must depart from them nor can it be dissembled that both the writers of our Order and the Dominicans have departed from them in that great war and Tragedy lately raised at Rome about Grace and Freewill For it is not our purpose that the writings of our men should be so ratified that they may not be changed so that they be of our Order