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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o she_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d safe_o follow_v her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n in_o thâ—â—_n i_o say_v general_a counceil_n may_v 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n herself_o from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christian_a religion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o this_o be_v a_o â—ad_a beginning_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o lay_v down_o 〈…〉_o first_o that_o the_o church_n include_v in_o iâ—_n all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christ_n appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o those_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n time_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d happy_o not_o from_o all_o ignorance_n three_o that_o the_o church_n include_v 〈◊〉_d the_o â—eleivers_n live_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d free_v not_o only_o from_o 〈◊〉_d in_o such_o thing_n 〈…〉_o to_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o thing_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d and_o religion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o all_o doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o 〈…〉_o so_o â—â—_o to_o the_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d in_o scripture_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o â—ath_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o rome_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n neither_o that_o universal_a church_n which_o 〈◊〉_d be_v gather_v together_o in_o a_o general_a council_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d sometime_o to_o have_v err_v but_o that_o which_o disperse_v through_o the_o world_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n continue_v to_o 〈◊〉_d time_n six_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o waldensis_n the_o father_n successive_o be_v more_o certain_a judge_n in_o 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aetatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d attigisset_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la urbe_fw-la constantiâ—oâ—oli_fw-la ad_fw-la a_o â—â—as_v â—alid_a as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d causa_fw-la â—â—llâ—_n de_fw-fr lepâ—à _fw-fr mentione_n habitâ_fw-la praeterea_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—ac_fw-la de_fw-fr re_fw-mi à _fw-fr â—ullo_n scriptorum_fw-la â—â—t_n mentio_fw-la non_fw-la dico_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la ethniâ—i_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o a_o 〈◊〉_d quider_n second_o this_o council_n sub_fw-la sylvestrâ—_n must_v be_v the_o year_n before_o sylvester_n be_v pope_n a_o idle_a conceit_n for_o that_o be_v the_o three_o consulship_n of_o constantine_n augustus_n 314_o 〈◊〉_d hist_o ecel_n l._n 4._o
the_o pope_n have_v be_v the_o head_n and_o that_o all_o other_o church_n have_v hold_v the_o catholic_a faith_n of_o he_o in_o capite_fw-la but_o i_o perceive_v the_o roman_a church_n be_v now_o presume_v from_o the_o ancient_n to_o have_v have_v this_o title_n yet_o i_o think_v it_o will_v scarce_o be_v find_v what_o the_o jesuite_n do_v understand_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o if_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v comprehend_v all_o other_o church_n that_o be_v only_o to_o be_v account_v catholic_a for_o the_o subordinate_a obeisance_n to_o peter_n and_o other_o succeed_a bishop_n 49_o bishop_n see_v the_o jesuit_n reply_v pag._n 49_o than_o it_o be_v mere_a vanity_n to_o make_v a_o head_n the_o head_n of_o itself_o to_o make_v the_o church_n all_o head_n and_o no_o body_n if_o their_o particular_a city_n or_o diocese_n and_o church_n therein_o than_o he_o can_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n understand_v the_o roman_a catholic_a as_o he_o confess_v in_o the_o last_o section_n 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pastor_n and_o to_o make_v this_o good_a he_o cite_v some_o father_n to_o prove_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o faithful_a â—1_n faithful_a see_v s._n augustine_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n pag._n â—1_n head_n of_o pastoral_n honour_n 52._o honour_n see_v prosper_n ibid._n pag._n 52._o so_o that_o notwithstanding_o he_o plead_v for_o the_o church_n roman_n yet_o that_o which_o he_o labour_v to_o advance_v be_v the_o see_v and_o pope_n roman_n that_o be_v that_o they_o fight_v for_o this_o they_o desire_v rome_n they_o will_v have_v the_o head_n of_o all_o church_n and_o the_o pope_n the_o head_n of_o she_o and_o their_o slight_v of_o counsel_n many_o time_n declare_v in_o their_o opinion_n the_o pope_n to_o be_v the_o only_a beast_n head_n that_o must_v be_v adore_v for_o the_o council_n make_v not_o the_o pope_n infallible_a but_o the_o pope_n the_o council_n firmum_fw-la council_n wadding_n legat._n phil._n 3._o etc._n etc._n sect._n 2_o non_fw-fr tribuit_fw-la concilium_fw-la infallibilitatem_fw-la pontifici_fw-la sed_fw-la à _fw-la pontifice_fw-la habeâ—_n concilium_fw-la ut_fw-la fit_a ratum_fw-la ac_fw-la firmum_fw-la for_o peter_n and_o those_o that_o follow_v he_o in_o the_o faith_n of_o peter_n not_o for_o a_o council_n do_v christ_n pray_v exâ—ravit_fw-la pray_v ibid._n pro_fw-la pâ—tro_fw-la &_o in_o fide_fw-la petri_n succedentibus_fw-la non_fw-fr pro_fw-la concilio_n oravit_fw-la et_fw-la exâ—ravit_fw-la well_o then_o let_v we_o see_v how_o we_o shall_v answer_v what_o he_o bring_v for_o the_o roman_a church_n exaltation_n and_o first_o of_o all_o it_o seem_v a_o needless_a thing_n for_o this_o jesuite_n to_o bring_v proof_n to_o manifest_v the_o same_o it_o be_v so_o undoubted_a a_o truth_n if_o we_o may_v believe_v this_o jesuite_n that_o the_o very_o first_o broacher_n of_o protestancie_n when_o they_o speak_v without_o passion_n do_v not_o deny_v the_o same_o 30_o same_o reply_v pag._n 30_o the_o broacher_n of_o protestancie_n be_v christ_n his_o apostle_n who_o give_v we_o wine_n and_o oil_n out_o of_o the_o vessel_n of_o his_o truth_n when_o such_o butcher_n as_o you_o have_v labour_v to_o erect_v a_o fantastic_a frame_n of_o your_o own_o his_o first_o instance_n be_v martin_n bucer_n who_o he_o produce_v confiss_v ingenuous_o that_o with_o the_o father_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n the_o roman_a church_n obtain_v the_o primacy_n before_o the_o rest_n for_o as_o much_o as_o she_o have_v s._n peter_n chair_n and_o her_o bishop_n almost_o ever_o still_o have_v be_v hold_v for_o peter_n successor_n â—â—_o successor_n reply_v pag_n â—â—_o and_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o get_v your_o church_n or_o pope_n by_o this_o ingenuè_fw-fr confitemur_fw-la little_o i_o suppose_v to_o make_v româ—_n caput_fw-la infallibilitatis_fw-la or_o the_o pope_n the_o pilot_n to_o guide_v thither_o for_o he_o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v obtain_v the_o primacy_n prae_fw-la caeteris_fw-la before_o other_o church_n not_o supper_n not_o over_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v be_v hold_v for_o peter_n successor_n but_o not_o absolute_o as_o a_o infallible_a truth_n but_o semper_fw-la ferè_fw-la almost_o ever_o not_o without_o doubt_n and_o jealousy_n as_o he_o seem_v to_o express_v but_o if_o absolute_o other_o bishop_n nay_o all_o other_o bishop_n have_v be_v likewise_o so_o esteem_v as_o be_v plain_a by_o chrysostom_n exhortation_n to_o basill_n bishop_n of_o caesarea_n who_o from_o the_o ground_n of_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la exhort_v he_o to_o that_o duty_n of_o peter_n because_o it_o belong_v to_o his_o successor_n as_o well_o as_o to_o himself_o 〈◊〉_d himself_o chrâ—sost_n de_fw-fr sacerdotio_fw-la l._n 2._o â—â—tre_fw-la amas_fw-la i_o â—â—quit_fw-la atque_fw-la illo_fw-la id_fw-la conâ—iâ—ence_n adjungit_fw-la si_fw-la amas_fw-la i_o pasâ—e_n oar_n meas_fw-la interrogat_fw-la discipulum_fw-la praeceptor_n â—um_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la non_fw-la quo_fw-la id_fw-la ipse_fw-la doâ—eatur_fw-la â—erùm_fw-la in_o nos_fw-la doceaâ—_n quanâ—ae_fw-la sibi_fw-la curae_fw-la â—â—_o gregis_fw-la huius_fw-la praefectura_fw-la â—â—_o â—aulo_fw-la cost_n veâ—â—m_fw-la hoc_fw-la ille_fw-la tum_fw-la agebat_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o petrum_fw-la &_o caeterâ—s_fw-la noâ—_n edoceret_fw-la quantà _fw-la beneâ—â—â—enâ—iâ—_n ac_fw-la charitate_fw-la erga_fw-la svam_fw-la ipse_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la afficeretur_fw-la ut_fw-la hac_fw-la ratione_fw-la &_o nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n studium_fw-la curamque_fw-la toto_fw-la animo_fw-la susciperemus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d item_n de_fw-fr causa_fw-la christus_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la effudit_fw-la suum_fw-la certe_fw-la ut_fw-la pecudes_fw-la eâ—â—_n acquitereâ—_n quaâ—â—â—â—_n petro_n â—um_o petri_n successoribus_fw-la gubernandas_fw-la in_o manum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d whereunto_o agree_v peter_n lombard_n lib._n 4._o dist_n 18._o we_o envy_n not_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o imperial_a city_n this_o honour_n that_o in_o procession_n 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bucer_n have_v not_o say_v much_o for_o this_o head_n of_o church_n yet_o he_o go_v not_o alone_o luther_n himself_o say_v the_o jesuite_n do_v confess_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v superiority_n over_o all_o other_o bishop_n â—â—_o bishop_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o this_o be_v no_o great_a matter_n for_o it_o be_v as_o the_o jesuite_n confess_v when_o he_o make_v use_v of_o his_o best_o wit_n â—_o wit_n ib_n â—_o that_o be_v when_o he_o do_v and_o say_v or_o at_o least_o submit_v all_o to_o the_o determination_n of_o this_o apollyon_n but_o afterward_o in_o his_o rave_a pang_n of_o madness_n he_o spare_v not_o like_o madde-man_n and_o fool_n to_o speak_v the_o truth_n and_o to_o call_v a_o spade_n a_o spade_n the_o pope_n antichrist_n and_o the_o roman_a state_n the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n so_o that_o any_o may_v see_v this_o make_v little_a to_o the_o producer_n purpose_n for_o if_o this_o be_v a_o good_a testimony_n why_o do_v he_o not_o produce_v our_o act_n of_o 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whatsoever_o neither_o do_v they_o baptise_v till_o the_o fourti_v day_n though_o the_o child_n die_v without_o baptism_n cundem_fw-la baptism_n tho._n à _fw-fr jesu_n ibid._n cit_fw-la per_fw-la cundem_fw-la i_o can_v name_v the_o jesuit_n many_o moâ—â—_n but_o if_o he_o can_v show_v the_o person_n time_n &_o place_n by_o who_o when_o &_o where_o these_o point_n receive_v birth_n with_o their_o opposer_n by_o demonstrable_a authority_n &_o not_o by_o naked_a ground_n we_o will_v spare_v he_o the_o rest_n &_o confess_v he_o may_v with_o good_a reason_n ask_v the_o question_n he_o do_v and_o require_v our_o answer_n to_o it_o but_o till_o then_o let_v he_o not_o expect_v that_o from_o a_o other_o which_o the_o whole_a roman_a inquisition_n can_v discover_v unto_o we_o in_o the_o like_a kind_n yet_o for_o the_o present_a the_o jesuite_n have_v perform_v his_o promise_n as_o he_o suppose_v in_o some_o particular_n point_v out_o by_o himself_o first_o concern_v the_o defection_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n which_o indeed_o comprehend_v all_o the_o rest_n by_o you_o name_v 9_o name_v reply_v pag._n 9_o etc._n etc._n here_o we_o have_v the_o jesuite_n myre_v in_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o what_o have_v he_o tu_fw-la do_v with_o general_n saphista_n versatur_fw-la in_o generalibuâ—_n he_o follow_v not_o his_o answerer_n but_o forsake_v he_o here_o particular_n be_v demand_v &_o like_o a_o false_a steward_n the_o jesuite_n deliver_v all_o in_o gross_a fear_v his_o prejudice_n if_o he_o submit_v to_o a_o strict_a &_o particular_a account_n all_o that_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v here_o be_v two_o thing_n first_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n defection_n from_o the_o roman_a which_o be_v not_o desire_v at_o his_o hand_n second_o the_o beginning_n of_o several_a error_n which_o shall_v be_v observe_v in_o their_o place_n for_o the_o first_o the_o defection_n of_o paulus_n samosatanus_fw-la macedonius_n nestoriuâ—_n &c._n &c._n be_v not_o from_o the_o roman_a but_o the_o greek_a a_o principal_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n second_o the_o greek_a church_n do_v not_o fall_v with_o they_o but_o condemn_v they_o neither_o do_v they_o adhere_v to_o they_o or_o their_o doctrine_n at_o this_o day_n that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o east_n which_o be_v name_v from_o some_o of_o those_o condemn_a heretic_n &_o yet_o follow_v not_o their_o doctrine_n etc._n doctrine_n onuphr_n in_o jul_n 3._o uerum_fw-la hie_v nestoriani_fw-la nomen_fw-la potius_fw-la nestorij_fw-la haeretici_fw-la quam_fw-la errores_fw-la retinuisse_fw-la mihi_fw-la videntur_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o question_n but_o that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o those_o heretic_n be_v teach_v by_o the_o greek_a church_n be_v utter_o untrue_a neither_o dare_v the_o jesuite_n say_v it_o be_v although_o by_o his_o obscure_a generality_n he_o will_v insinuat_fw-la that_o in_o what_o those_o differ_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n these_o close_a with_o they_o and_o for_o the_o other_o several_a defection_n as_o he_o call_v they_o though_o it_o be_v but_o ajust_a flight_n from_o their_o tyranny_n he_o can_v tell_v how_o many_o they_o be_v but_o style_v they_o twelve_o or_o there_o about_o but_o to_o what_o purpose_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d these_o 〈◊〉_d unless_o he_o show_v we_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v make_v and_o this_o will_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o show_v unto_o we_o what_o error_n every_o 〈…〉_o in_o with_o â—â—_o for_o otherwise_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d then_o employ_v to_o none_o â—ffect_v whereas_o he_o make_v they_o oppress_v by_o the_o turk_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d from_o 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d jesuite_n fancy_n i_o pray_v god_n 〈◊〉_d theâ—â—_n other_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d separation_n they_o cast_v off_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o noâ—_n all_o their_o slavery_n â—ut_v if_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d at_o the_o cause_n of_o their_o oppression_n which_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d â—aith_n where_o 〈◊〉_d notwithstanding_o their_o persequâ—â—ion_n they_o still_o 〈◊〉_d but_o their_o person_n many_o more_o probable_a ground_n may_v be_v give_v of_o god_n put_v they_o to_o this_o 〈◊〉_d then_o this_o assign_a by_o jesuite_n unless_o you_o have_v relation_n to_o politic_a and_o worldly_a prudencye_n of_o that_o church_n and_o not_o to_o crime_n that_o bring_v down_o god_n judgement_n upon_o they_o for_o we_o know_v some_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d not_o altogether_o to_o be_v approve_v of_o but_o idolatrous_a as_o image-worship_n be_v practise_v among_o they_o they_o deny_v indeed_o that_o which_o be_v practise_v by_o you_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o manner_n even_o statue_n of_o stone_n or_o marble_n and_o yet_o embrace_v with_o a_o idolatrous_a love_n paper_n and_o pâ—inted_a representation_n this_o their_o sin_n be_v not_o the_o least_o causer_n of_o god_n judgement_n upon_o they_o as_o we_o may_v conjecture_v from_o the_o ix_o of_o the_o revelation_n if_o god_n visit_v they_o may_v be_v impute_v to_o their_o sin_n and_o not_o to_o his_o secret_a will_n who_o tri_v his_o own_o by_o affliction_n as_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o egypt_n and_o the_o primitive_a in_o her_o sincereâ—â—_n perfection_n three_o â—s_v concern_v the_o several_a 〈◊〉_d few_o in_o comparison_n wherein_o the_o greek_a church_n aâ—_n this_o day_n dissent_v from_o the_o roman_a their_o beginning_n and_o contradiction_n iâ—_n noterious_a â—â—_o noterious_a reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o the_o jesuite_n by_o way_n of_o preface_n make_v the_o greek_a church_n at_o this_o day_n to_o vary_v from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d in_o regard_n of_o we_o for_o so_o i_o conceive_v he_o desire_v to_o be_v understand_v â—ut_v in_o a_o few_o point_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o they_o differ_v at_o thisday_n from_o they_o in_o most_o point_n that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d they_o for_o so_o that_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o receive_v scardall_a from_o your_o corruption_n which_o because_o yoâ—â—_n pride_n will_v not_o â—ure_v they_o leave_v you_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o your_o 〈◊〉_d and_o adhere_v to_o thâ—_n 〈◊〉_d doctrine_n which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d every_o wheâ—_n receive_v at_o all_o time_n 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o although_o they_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o some_o of_o your_o own_o before_o own_o see_v before_o think_v their_o error_n therein_o to_o be_v only_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o express_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n itself_o and_o 〈◊〉_d whereas_o he_o say_v that_o their_o beginning_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d i_o will_v believe_v he_o when_o he_o have_v answer_v those_o point_n which_o i_o have_v lay_v 〈◊〉_d before_o for_o what_o he_o have_v do_v by_o his_o own_o election_n and_o choice_n will_v declare_v unto_o we_o what_o great_a performance_n we_o may_v expect_v â—â—_o his_o hand_n when_o a_o other_o may_v have_v the_o liberty_n to_o point_v out_o his_o task_n and_o first_o he_o begin_v with_o their_o denial_n of_o subjectional_a the_o roman_a sea_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d and_o agreat_a one_o and_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o be_v begâ—â—_n by_o john_n of_o constantinople_n and_o he_o there_o â—pon_o several_o contradect_v by_o gregory_n the_o great_a and_o by_o pelagius_n in_o his_o epistle_n etc._n etc._n â—â—_o etc._n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o here_o be_v two_o 〈◊〉_d fashoodâ—_n by_o this_o jesuite_n in_o this_o particular_a suppose_a and_o 〈◊〉_d first_o that_o 〈◊〉_d age_n before_o 〈◊〉_d of_o constantinople_n his_o 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o their_o sense_n be_v universal_o acknowledge_v second_o that_o this_o controversy_n betwiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d gregory_n be_v about_o the_o denial_n of_o papal_a 〈◊〉_d â—oth_o which_o shall_v be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v notorious_o untrue_a for_o the_o first_o 〈◊〉_d the_o jesuite_n orderly_o proceed_v he_o shall_v have_v prove_v the_o roman_a bishop_n the_o monarch_n of_o the_o church_n by_o universal_a confent_n before_o he_o shall_v have_v question_v the_o greek_a church_n for_o the_o
denial_n thereof_o and_o that_o his_o monarchy_n 〈◊〉_d consist_v not_o in_o matter_n of_o outward_a glory_n and_o precedency_n but_o of_o spiritual_a regency_n and_o power_n for_o else_o how_o can_v they_o deny_v what_o be_v never_o establish_v or_o consent_v unto_o by_o the_o catholic_a church_n or_o any_o famous_a or_o glorious_a member_n of_o the_o same_o and_o further_o in_o manifest_v the_o falsehood_n of_o his_o supposition_n you_o may_v conceive_v it_o be_v impossible_a to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o ancient_a testimony_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o father_n deny_v this_o spiritual_a and_o divine_a regency_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n because_o they_o never_o assume_v or_o exercise_v it_o yet_o all_o those_o step_n whereby_o they_o labour_v to_o ascend_v unto_o this_o spiritual_a height_n be_v ever_o resist_v in_o all_o time_n and_o age_n for_o in_o the_o first_o place_n their_o attempt_n of_o divine_a derivation_n of_o this_o power_n be_v cast_v off_o by_o their_o own_o cusaâ—us_o 13._o cusaâ—us_o cusanus_fw-la de_fw-la concord_n cath_z lib_n 2._o cap._n 13._o be_v so_o far_o from_o give_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n this_o spiritual_a eminency_n by_o divine_a canon_n that_o he_o deni_v it_o to_o have_v be_v grant_v unto_o he_o by_o any_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n and_o prove_v it_o to_o have_v be_v only_o bring_v in_o by_o common_a use_n &_o custom_n and_o sure_o what_o privilege_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n enjoy_v above_o their_o brethren_n which_o be_v far_o from_o that_o ecumenical_a spiritual_a regency_n subscriptionibus_fw-la regency_n turrecrem_fw-la d._n 2d_o constantino_n consistebat_fw-la hic_fw-la honour_n in_fw-la hoc_fw-la videlicet_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la locum_fw-la in_o fedendo_fw-la primo_fw-la post_fw-la rom_n â—oat_n &_o in_o responsionibus_fw-la haberet_fw-la secundam_fw-la vocem_fw-la &_o in_o subscriptionibus_fw-la or_o papal_a omnipotency_n the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n teddiderum_fw-la chalcedon_n chalce_v council_n act_n 16._o etâ—â—im_a 〈◊〉_d â—â—nioris_fw-la romae_fw-la propter_fw-la imperium_fw-la civitatis_fw-la illius_fw-la patres_fw-la consequenter_fw-la privilegia_fw-la teddiderum_fw-la atribute_v to_o the_o gift_n of_o their_o father_n which_o father_n we_o may_v conjecture_v pius_n 301._o pius_n aeneas_n sylu._n epist_n 301._o the_o second_o think_v to_o be_v the_o father_n assemble_v in_o the_o nicene_n council_n as_o marsilius_n 1â—_n marsilius_n defence_n pa._n 2._o cap._n 1â—_n patavinus_n have_v plain_o declare_v now_o all_o practice_n of_o insurrection_n to_o gain_v this_o universal_a regency_n either_o before_o or_o after_o they_o receive_v this_o limit_a honour_n of_o sit_v and_o subscribe_v first_o be_v ever_o resist_v by_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n as_o by_o this_o one_o instance_n will_v be_v sufficient_o clear_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v many_o timesstrive_v that_o the_o finale_fw-la judicium_fw-la next_o to_o the_o determination_n of_o a_o â—â—â—â—cell_n for_o a_o papa_n 14._o papa_n council_n constan_n sess_v 4._o â—_o consil_n basil_n sess_v 2._o idem_fw-la assent_n cardinal_n cameracensis_n joannes_n gerson_n jacobus_n almainus_n nicolaus_n cusanus_fw-la â—anoriâ—itan_a cardinal_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o alii_fw-la testae_fw-la bellarmin_n d_o council_n 〈◊〉_d lib._n cap._n 14._o supra_fw-la be_v never_o dream_v of_o in_o primitive_a time_n shall_v depend_v upon_o they_o in_o matter_n not_o of_o faith_n which_o they_o never_o pretend_v authority_n to_o declare_v but_o of_o fact_n &_o this_o cyprian_a non_fw-la cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 3._o nam_fw-la cùm_fw-la statutum_fw-la sit_fw-la omnibus_fw-la nobis_fw-la &_o aequum_fw-la sit_fw-la pariter_fw-la &_o justum_fw-la ut_fw-la uniuscujusque_fw-la causa_fw-la illic_fw-la audiatur_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la crimen_fw-la admissum_fw-la &_o singuliâ—_n pastoribus_fw-la â—â—â—tio_fw-la gregis_fw-la sit_fw-la adscripta_fw-la quam_fw-la regat_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la &_o guberâ—eâ—_fw-ge rationem_fw-la svi_fw-la actus_fw-la domino_fw-la redditurus_fw-la oporter_fw-la utique_fw-la choose_fw-la quibus_fw-la prae_fw-la suâ—â—s_fw-la nâ—â—_n circumcurfare_n nec_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concordiam_fw-la cohaereâ—â—â—â—_n suâ_fw-la subdolâ_fw-la &_o fallaci_fw-la temeritate_fw-la collidere_fw-la sed_fw-la agere_fw-la illic_fw-la causam_fw-la svam_fw-la ubi_fw-la &_o accusatores_fw-la habere_fw-la &_o testes_fw-la svi_fw-la criminis_fw-la possunâ—_n nisi_fw-la si_fw-la paucis_fw-la desperatis_fw-la &_o perditis_fw-la minor_fw-la videtur_fw-la esse_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la in_o africa_n constiâ—utorum_fw-la qui_fw-la iam_fw-la de_fw-fr illis_fw-la judicaverunt_fw-la et_fw-la eorum_fw-la câ—â—scientiam_fw-la multip_v delictorum_fw-la laqueis_fw-la vinctam_fw-la judicij_fw-la svi_fw-la nuper_fw-la gravitate_fw-la damnârunt_fw-la i_o be_o causâ—_n coâ—â—â—â—_n cognita_fw-la est_fw-la iam_fw-la de_fw-fr eye_n dicta_fw-la sententia_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la censure_n congruit_fw-la 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all_o prelate_n 51_o prelate_n reply_v pag._n 51_o which_o of_o these_o word_n m._n malone_n prove_v rome_n to_o be_v above_o jerusalem_n the_o hill_n of_o babylon_n to_o be_v high_a than_o the_o mountain_n of_o the_o lord_n not_o the_o title_n of_o chief_a bishop_n for_o this_o give_v the_o bishop_n no_o power_n but_o place_n no_o authority_n but_o precedency_n be_v it_o the_o other_o that_o he_o sit_v in_o the_o apostolical_a eminency_n who_o doubt_v that_o the_o apostleship_n be_v attribute_v to_o other_o bishop_n aswell_o as_o rome_n that_o dare_v not_o adventure_v to_o imagine_v the_o effect_n of_o this_o appellation_n to_o be_v a_o spiritual_a monarchy_n as_o sidonius_n to_o lupus_n praeter_fw-la officium_fw-la quod_fw-la incomparabiliter_fw-la eminenti_fw-la apostolatui_fw-la tuo_fw-la sine_fw-la sine_fw-la debetur_fw-la 4._o debetur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d l._n 4._o epist_n 4._o so_o likewise_o in_o the_o renunciation_n of_o the_o metropolitical_a sea_n of_o heraclea_n thus_o speak_v theodoret_n chritâ—pulus_n deprecor_fw-la &_o thronum_fw-la &_o principatum_fw-la &_o sacerdotium_fw-la adhortorque_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la voco_fw-la &_o quem_fw-la paracletus_fw-la ad_fw-la apostolatum_fw-la suum_fw-la separabit_fw-la and_o if_o we_o will_v give_v credit_n to_o pacianus_n episcopi_fw-la apostoli_fw-la nominantur_fw-la bishop_n be_v call_v apostle_n 1._o apostle_n 〈◊〉_d epist_n 1._o so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o unusual_a thing_n to_o give_v good_a bishop_n title_n that_o be_v indeed_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n as_o prophet_n apostle_n evangelist_n and_o the_o like_a and_o therefore_o this_o can_v be_v no_o rest_n for_o he_o to_o depend_v upon_o for_o the_o two_o place_n to_o prove_v rome_n the_o head_n of_o all_o church_n cite_v out_o of_o victor_n vticensis_n &_o ennodius_n 51_o ennodius_n reply_v pag._n 51_o we_o have_v answer_v thereunto_o that_o this_o title_n be_v but_o a_o appellation_n that_o betoken_v honour_n and_o precedency_n not_o power_n and_o superiority_n sure_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n get_v not_o this_o height_n by_o such_o argument_n neither_o do_v i_o think_v that_o it_o can_v be_v maintain_v if_o it_o want_v other_o strength_n and_o defence_n so_o that_o any_o may_v see_v his_o capital_a argument_n get_v no_o more_o than_o what_o we_o yield_v unto_o he_o in_o what_o his_o other_o endeavour_n will_v effect_v we_o may_v easy_o conjecture_v he_o bring_v in_o s._n ambrose_n next_o ibid._n next_o reply_v ibid._n but_o with_o as_o little_a help_n for_o the_o roman_a headship_n as_o the_o former_a from_o who_o he_o expect_v assistance_n but_o here_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o this_o quotation_n all_o neither_o true_a author_n true_a word_n true_a consequence_n for_o first_o how_o many_o can_v we_o find_v that_o reject_v those_o commentary_n upon_o paul_n epistle_n as_o be_v none_o of_o ambroses_n some_o charge_v they_o as_o upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n with_o pelagianisme_n from_o which_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n will_v defend_v this_o father_n second_o let_v the_o author_n be_v who_o he_o will_v these_o word_n seem_v to_o be_v insert_v cujus_fw-la hodie_fw-la rector_n est_fw-la damasuâ—_n for_o if_o it_o be_v he_o as_o by_o some_o of_o the_o learned_a of_o your_o side_n be_v suppose_v that_o write_v the_o book_n of_o question_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n propagavit_fw-la testament_n bellarm_n the_o script_n eccles_n de_fw-fr ambrosio_n m._n credibile_fw-la igitur_fw-la est_fw-la auctorem_fw-la horum_fw-la commentariorum_fw-la esse_fw-la hilarium_fw-la diaconum_fw-la romanum_fw-la qui_fw-la luciferi_fw-la schisma_fw-la propagavit_fw-la he_o live_v 43._o live_v quaeâ—â—_n 43._o 300_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o so_o can_v not_o speak_v these_o word_n of_o damasus_n who_o be_v bishop_n 367._o or_o if_o he_o be_v remigias_n lugdnnensis_n as_o maldonat_n think_v 32._o think_v maldonat_n in_o joh._n c._n 12._o v._n 32._o who_o live_v about_o the_o 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de_fw-fr rom._n pont_n l._n c._n 11._o omnes_fw-la enim_fw-la apostoli_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la capita_fw-la rectores_fw-la &_o pastor_n ecclesiae_fw-la universae_fw-la and_o yet_o none_o shall_v have_v what_o the_o jesuite_n infer_v thereupon_o but_o his_o own_o roman_a mistress_n after_o ambrose_n come_v s._n hierome_n who_o he_o bring_v in_o say_v i_o follow_v none_o as_o fiâ—st_v but_o christ_n be_o unite_v in_o one_o communion_n to_o thy_o blessedness_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o petâ—rs_n chair_n upon_o this_o rock_n i_o know_v the_o church_n be_v builâ—_n whosoever_o eat_v the_o lamb_n out_o of_o this_o house_n he_o be_v profane_a he_o that_o gather_v not_o with_o thou_o do_v scatter_v that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o that_o belong_v not_o to_o christ_n stand_v upon_o the_o side_n of_o antichrist_n 5â—_n antichrist_n reply_v pag._n 5â—_n what_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v here_o be_v plain_a that_o consent_n with_o the_o roman_a church_n make_v a_o catholic_a and_o therefore_o it_o 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as_o catholic_a for_o liberian_a his_n familiarity_n nor_o condemn_v athanasius_n though_o condemn_v by_o their_o pope_n oportet_fw-la pope_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n 4_o c._n 9_o nam_fw-la ut_fw-la colligitur_fw-la ex_fw-la athanasij_n verbis_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la epistolis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la liberij_fw-la duo_fw-la mala_fw-la liberius_n commisit_fw-la vnum_fw-la quod_fw-la subscripsit_fw-la in_o damnationem_fw-la athanasij_n altemâ—â—_n quod_fw-la cum_fw-la haereticis_fw-la communicavit_fw-la binnius_n not._n it_o epist_n liberij_fw-la ad_fw-la episcopoâ—_n orien_n extat_fw-la tomo_fw-la 1._o council_n quisquis_fw-la innocentem_fw-la athanasium_fw-la à _fw-la cathoâ—icorum_fw-la communioâ—e_fw-la arcet_fw-la impioâ—_n verò_fw-la arianoâ—_n ad_fw-la communionis_fw-la vinculum_fw-la admitti_fw-la audeat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la catholicum_fw-la sed_fw-la arianum_n esse_fw-la oportet_fw-la will_v you_o account_v all_o for_o heretic_n that_o have_v not_o obey_v your_o roman_a bishop_n what_o say_v you_o to_o irenaeus_n irenaeus_n irenaeus_n eusebius_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 5._o c._n 23._o extant_a autem_fw-la &_o verba_fw-la illorum_fw-la qâ—i_fw-la victorem_fw-la acriter_fw-la reprehenderunt_fw-la equibus_fw-la &_o irenaeus_n to_o cyprian_n error_n cyprian_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom_n
pont._n l_o 4._o c._n 7_o cyprianus_n pertinaciter_fw-la restitit_fw-la stephano_n pontifici_fw-la doâ—â—â—ienti_fw-la haereticos_fw-la non_fw-la rebaprixandâ—â—_n ut_fw-la patet_fw-la ex_fw-la epistola_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la cypriani_fw-la ad_fw-la pompeiâ—â—_n &_o tamen_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la haereticus_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la mortaliter_fw-la peccavit_fw-la et_fw-la tamen_fw-la ecâ—â—esia_n cypriaâ—um_fw-la ut_fw-la sanctam_fw-la colit_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la unquam_fw-la resipuisse_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la svo_fw-la error_n to_o the_o african_a bishop_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o appeal_v fuerunt_fw-la appeal_v epist_n bonifacii_n â—_o ad_fw-la alex._n episc_n aurelius_n enim_fw-la praefatae_fw-la carthaginensis_n ecclesiae_fw-la olim_fw-la episcopus_fw-la cum_fw-la câ—llegis_fw-la suiâ—_n instigante_fw-la diabolo_fw-it superbire_fw-la temporibus_fw-la praedecessorum_fw-la noâ—â—â—orum_fw-la bonifacii_n atque_fw-la coelestiâ—i_fw-la 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that_o phrase_n upon_o this_o rock_n i_o know_v the_o church_n be_v build_v meaning_n s._n peter_n chair_n i_o dare_v say_v with_o reverence_n to_o s._n hierome_n that_o it_o be_v either_o upon_o christ_n or_o peter_n confession_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n as_o the_o father_n in_o multitude_n do_v interpret_v it_o or_o upon_o peter_n himself_o who_o your_o own_o will_v have_v thâ—_n rock_n and_o not_o upon_o peter_n â—haire_n which_o be_v not_o of_o such_o a_o unmooveable_a stability_n â—s_v that_o rock_n ought_v to_o be_v upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v further_o i_o think_v mr_n malone_n will_v not_o deâ—y_v that_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v before_o peter_n have_v any_o chair_n either_o at_o antioch_n or_o at_o rome_n and_o if_o he_o say_v s._n hierome_n mean_v not_o his_o chair_n but_o in_o relation_n to_o peter_n then_o who_o can_v deny_v but_o all_o the_o apostle_n be_v rock_n as_o peter_n be_v petrae_fw-la omnes_fw-la apostoli_fw-la all_o the_o apostle_n be_v rock_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v say_v origen_n 1._o origen_n origen_n in_o mat._n hom_n 1._o the_o jesuite_n proceed_v and_o bring_v two_o place_n from_o st_n augustine_n if_o we_o will_v believe_v he_o to_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o question_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n for_o to_o make_v this_o other_o than_o a_o counterfeit_n he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a but_o what_o say_v he_o that_o may_v procure_v such_o a_o universal_a pre-eminence_n to_o this_o only_a father_n why_o he_o be_v call_v caput_fw-la fidelium_fw-la head_n of_o the_o faithful_a 51._o faithful_a reply_v pag._n 51._o so_o may_v every_o priest_n in_o his_o parish_n unless_o his_o flock_n be_v infidel_n and_o for_o the_o other_o title_n pastor_n gregis_fw-la dominici_n pastor_n of_o our_o lord_n flock_v ibid._n reply_v ibid._n what_o bishop_n be_v not_o pastor_n of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n but_o papal_a bishop_n who_o poor_a delegate_n have_v not_o their_o institution_n from_o christ_n but_o as_o poor_a hireling_n from_o the_o papacy_n in_o the_o second_o place_n the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o that_fw-mi s._n augustiâ—â—_n give_v this_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o principality_n or_o supremacy_n of_o the_o see_v apostolic_a have_v always_o bear_v sway_n therein_o 52_o therein_o reply_v pag._n 52_o this_o father_n will_v not_o serve_v the_o jesuite_n turn_v without_o a_o gloss_n principality_n &_o supremacy_n must_v be_v the_o same_o so_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v it_o for_o if_o this_o be_v not_o true_a augustine_n forsake_v his_o engager_n but_o the_o jesuite_n may_v know_v that_o principality_n be_v not_o papal_a dominion_n there_o be_v a_o primatuâ—_n or_o principality_n of_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n 27._o constantinople_n theodoret._n l._n 2_o c_o 27._o and_o a_o primatus_fw-la or_o primacy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n 6._o 〈◊〉_d l._n 7._o â—_o 6._o into_o 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his_o resurrection_n say_v cyprian_n give_v equal_a power_n to_o all_o the_o apostle_n tribuat_fw-la apostle_n cyprian_a de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la apostolis_n omnibus_fw-la post_fw-la resurrectionem_fw-la svam_fw-la parem_fw-la potestatem_fw-la tribuat_fw-la and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v even_o the_o same_o that_o peter_n be_v be_v endue_v with_o the_o like_a fellowship_n both_o of_o honour_n and_o power_n potestatis_fw-la power_n ibid_fw-la hoc_fw-la erant_fw-la utique_fw-la &_o caeteri_fw-la apostoli_fw-la quod_fw-la fuit_fw-la petrus_n pari_fw-la consortio_fw-la praediti_fw-la &_o honoris_fw-la &_o potestatis_fw-la hierome_n also_o speak_v as_o much_o the_o church_n be_v found_v equal_o upon_o all_o the_o apostle_n all_o receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n &_o ex_fw-la equo_fw-la super_fw-la eos_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la fortitudo_fw-la solidatur_fw-la etc._n solidatur_fw-la hierom._n l._n 1_o cont_n iâ—rin_n at_o dicis_fw-la super_fw-la petrum_fw-la fundatur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la licet_fw-la id_fw-la ipsum_fw-la in_o alio_fw-la loco_fw-la super_fw-la omnes_fw-la apostolos_fw-la fiat_fw-la &_o cuncti_fw-la clave_n regni_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o ex_fw-la â—â—â—â—_o etc._n etc._n so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v do_v well_o if_o he_o have_v take_v up_o before_o if_o he_o have_v not_o trouble_v his_o reader_n with_o prove_v that_o kind_n of_o primacy_n which_o be_v not_o deny_v he_o and_o have_v forbear_v the_o attempt_v a_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o the_o father_n will_v never_o grant_v but_o howsoever_o he_o resolve_v that_o optatus_n bishop_n of_o milevetum_fw-la must_v not_o be_v let_v pass_v in_o regard_n he_o will_v seem_v to_o catechise_v our_o answerer_n himself_o very_o handsome_o in_o these_o word_n thou_o can_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o thou_o know_v full_a well_o that_o the_o episcopal_a chair_n have_v be_v first_o give_v unto_o peter_n in_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n wherein_o peter_n the_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n have_v sit_v whence_o also_o he_o be_v call_v cephas_n in_o the_o which_o one_o chair_n unity_n may_v be_v keep_v of_o all_o man_n lest_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v maintain_v every_o one_o their_o singular_a chair_n to_o themselves_o so_o that_o now_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o schismatic_n and_o a_o offender_n who_o will_v seem_v to_o raise_v up_o another_o against_o this_o only_a chair_n 54._o chair_n reply_v pag._n 54._o this_o place_n of_o optatus_n if_o the_o papist_n do_v right_o interpret_v it_o must_v enclose_v a_o notorious_a falsehood_n for_o can_v it_o be_v affirm_v with_o truth_n by_o optatus_n that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o apostolical_a chair_n be_v only_o place_v in_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n when_o other_o apostle_n have_v their_o several_a seat_n and_o chair_n in_o other_o city_n also_o as_o james_n at_o jerusalem_n aswell_o as_o peter_n at_o rome_n all_o which_o be_v visible_a and_o conspicuous_a to_o the_o church_n before_o optatus_n his_o time_n as_o we_o may_v see_v out_o of_o tertullian_n percurâ—e_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la apostolicas_fw-la apud_fw-la quas_fw-la ipse_fw-la â—â—huc_fw-la cathedra_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la suis_fw-la locis_fw-la praesidentur_fw-la heresy_n praesidentur_fw-la tertul._n praescrip_n con_fw-mi heresy_n and_o therefore_o optutus_n his_o chair_n can_v be_v interpret_v for_o the_o only_a chair_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n place_v by_o peter_n at_o rome_n from_o which_o whosoever_o do_v separate_v himself_o upon_o what_o cause_n soever_o shall_v be_v a_o schismatic_n but_o optatus_n be_v right_o understand_v declare_v thus_o much_o and_o no_o more_o that_o peter_n have_v his_o seat_n place_v at_o rome_n and_o yet_o eusebius_n make_v he_o not_o the_o first_o bishop_n therâ—_n 19_o therâ—_n euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n â—â—_o &_o 19_o the_o apostle_n do_v forbear_v to_o place_v their_o seat_n in_o that_o city_n and_o therefore_o judge_v the_o donatist_n schismatical_a that_o place_v another_o bishop_n of_o their_o schism_n in_o rome_n contra_fw-la singularem_fw-la cathedram_fw-la which_o this_o father_n show_v be_v ever_o one_o in_o rome_n in_o ea_fw-la sedit_fw-la primus_fw-la petrus_n succedit_fw-la linus_n lino_n clemens_n so_o that_o the_o donatist_n permenian_n with_o his_o fellow_n be_v esteem_v schismatic_n by_o optatus_n not_o because_o they_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o now_o they_o understand_v it_o but_o in_o regard_n by_o place_v a_o bishop_n of_o their_o faction_n in_o rome_n they_o contemn_v the_o establish_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n that_o require_v in_o one_o city_n but_o one_o episcopal_a chair_n whereby_o we_o see_v that_o optatus_n be_v so_o far_o from_o catechise_n the_o answerer_n that_o he_o do_v check_v the_o jesuite_n and_o his_o faction_n that_o in_o like_a manner_n as_o the_o donatist_n have_n do_v do_v now_o intrude_v upon_o our_o episcopal_a chair_n in_o ireland_n titular_a bishop_n of_o their_o faction_n of_o schism_n not_o forbear_v the_o chair_n of_o s._n patrick_n itself_o but_o draw_v to_o conclusion_n of_o this_o point_n the_o jesuite_n can_v wish_v that_o both_o the_o answerer_n and_o all_o his_o adherent_n will_v listen_v well_o unto_o s._n leo_n who_o say_v that_o peter_n only_o in_o all_o the_o world_n be_v choose_v
edita_fw-la â—â—gua_fw-la sed_fw-la visum_fw-la est_fw-la 318._o patribus_fw-la sancto_fw-la spiritu_fw-la repletis_fw-la in_o praeâ—â—â—â—o_fw-la concilio_n congregatis_fw-la &_o maximè_fw-la jam_fw-la dicto_fw-la alexandro_n &_o apostolicae_fw-la sedis_fw-la apoâ—â—â—sarijs_fw-la ut_fw-la decem_fw-la capitula_fw-la a_o dunarentur_fw-la alijs_fw-la atque_fw-la congruis_fw-la locis_fw-la inscrerentur_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la forâ—â—â—_n septuaginta_fw-la discipulorum_fw-la vel_fw-la potius_fw-la totius_fw-la orbis_fw-la terrae_fw-la linguarum_fw-la sepungiâ—â—â—_n discipulorum_fw-la &_o tam_fw-la excellentis_fw-la concilij_fw-la fierent_fw-la capitula_fw-la and_o if_o these_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o mark_v out_o a_o impostor_n let_v we_o hear_v what_o their_o own_o speak_v and_o you_o shall_v find_v bellarmine_n account_v they_o both_o viz._n athanasius_n his_o epistle_n and_o mark_v â—â—â—_o script_n supposititious_a supposititiâ—s_fw-la supposititious_a bellarm._n de_fw-fr scriptor_n eccles_n ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr epistolis_fw-la athanasi_n ad_fw-la marcum_fw-la papam_fw-la &_o marci_n papâ—_n ad_fw-la athanasium_fw-la 〈◊〉_d extratione_fw-la temporis_fw-la â—â—â—_o epistolas_fw-la esse_fw-la supposititiâ—s_fw-la baronius_n take_v they_o as_o commentitious_a and_o forge_a by_o certain_a well-willer_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n 〈◊〉_d church_n baron_fw-fr tom_fw-mi 3._o ad_fw-la a_o 336_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 59_o &_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d ille_fw-la 〈◊〉_d architectur_n bene_fw-la esse_fw-la consultum_fw-la assertion_n 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr nicâ—â—o_n canone_o extra_fw-la numerum_fw-la vicentarium_fw-la allegatum_fw-la hoâ—â—â—â—â—â—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la ignoravit_fw-la ex_fw-la apertissimâ—_n veritate_fw-la solutionem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o second_o epistle_n to_o felix_n â—_o felix_n reply_v pag._n â—_o if_o we_o observe_v what_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v out_o of_o he_o unless_o we_o be_v wilful_o perverse_a we_o can_v think_v athanasius_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o egypt_n to_o be_v so_o far_o from_o sense_n as_o this_o epistle_n make_v he_o that_o they_o dare_v not_o presume_v to_o yield_v to_o the_o error_n of_o their_o enemy_n the_o arrian_n without_o acquaint_v the_o pope_n therewithal_o as_o if_o with_o his_o dispensation_n they_o may_v adhere_v to_o any_o corruption_n whatsoever_o beside_o the_o rescript_n to_o this_o epistle_n be_v date_v agario_fw-la &_o juliano_n cass_n conciliorum_fw-la cass_n vide_fw-la rescriptum_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la apud_fw-la biâ—â—ium_fw-la tom_fw-mi 1._o conciliorum_fw-la when_o as_o never_o any_o that_o do_v number_v the_o roman_a consul_n do_v make_v mention_n of_o agarius_fw-la and_o also_o the_o rescript_n declare_v what_o we_o may_v conceive_v both_o of_o it_o and_o the_o epistle_n of_o athanasius_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o be_v of_o no_o better_a stamp_n than_o the_o decretal_a epistle_n the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o rescript_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o felix_n the_o first_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o frannce_n and_o to_o close_o up_o this_o binnius_n will_v tell_v this_o jesuite_n that_o the_o epistle_n itself_o be_v of_o suspect_a birth_n both_o from_o the_o time_n when_o it_o be_v write_v and_o other_o circumstance_n reddat_fw-la circumstance_n bin._n tom_n 1._o council_n in_o 〈◊〉_d in_o epist_n athanasij_n &c._n &c._n ad_fw-la felicem_fw-la &_o felicis_fw-la ad_fw-la atha_n haec_fw-la epistola_fw-la sub_fw-la nomine_fw-la athanasij_n ad_fw-la felicem_fw-la ex_fw-la synodo_fw-la alexandâ—â—na_fw-la scripta_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopis_fw-la â—â—gypti_fw-la thebâ—â—dis_fw-la &_o lybiae_n de_fw-la fide_fw-la suspecta_fw-la est_fw-la tum_fw-la quod_fw-la hoc_fw-la tempore_fw-la quâ—_n athanasius_n â—â—ga_fw-la clapsus_fw-la in_o cremo_fw-la latitabat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—_o liberio_n 〈◊〉_d episcopi_fw-la orthodoxi_fw-la decrâ—â—_n imperatoris_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la hunc_fw-la epistola_fw-la ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d scripta_fw-la ipsum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-la sva_fw-la ipsi_fw-la â—â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d reddat_fw-la and_o baronius_n do_v also_o disparage_v this_o epistle_n and_o deride_v the_o merchant_n that_o make_v use_v of_o such_o baggage_n commodity_n 〈◊〉_d commodity_n baron_fw-fr annal._n tom_n â—_o ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 217._o â—â—â—_o 66._o quae_fw-la fertur_fw-la athanasij_n nomine_fw-la ad_fw-la felicem_fw-la romanum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la synido_fw-la alexandrina_n scripta_fw-la haâ—d_a aeque_fw-la probatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n at_o ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o whence_o we_o may_v see_v how_o this_o jesuite_n be_v void_a of_o all_o shame_n who_o as_o if_o he_o have_v hit_v the_o eagle_n on_o the_o eye_n do_v not_o only_o produce_v these_o counterfeits_n but_o swell_v with_o impudency_n in_o his_o wont_a manner_n of_o rail_v bitter_o revile_v the_o answerer_n for_o just_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o good_a father_n assemble_v in_o that_o synod_n never_o dream_v of_o such_o a_o business_n nor_o establish_v any_o such_o decree_n or_o canon_n at_o all_o behold_v here_o say_v he_o how_o precise_o this_o holy_a father_n do_v allege_v the_o canon_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o for_o her_o absolute_a supremacy_n over_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n throughâ—â—_n the_o world_n and_o what_o will_v not_o our_o adversary_n venture_v to_o say_v and_o do_v against_o the_o catholic_a truth_n when_o as_o they_o stick_v not_o with_o brazen_a face_n to_o avouch_v that_o the_o good_a father_n assemble_v in_o that_o synod_n never_o dream_v oâ—_n such_o a_o business_n etc._n etc._n but_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o unpartial_a reader_n to_o determine_v whether_o the_o abovesaid_a testimony_n of_o s._n athanasini_n give_v but_o twenty_o year_n or_o thereabouts_o after_o the_o say_a nicene_n council_n do_v not_o sufficient_o bruise_v and_o hurt_v their_o face_n of_o brass_n and_o force_v they_o to_o swallow_v down_o again_o their_o enormous_a untruth_n and_o calumniation_n 59_o calumniation_n reply_v pag._n 59_o here_o we_o may_v see_v a_o discourse_n fit_a for_o a_o jesuite_n all_o confidence_n â—â—t_v build_v upon_o no_o truth_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n confess_v the_o jesuites_n proof_n from_o the_o epistle_n of_o athanasius_n to_o pope_n mark_v and_o the_o rescript_n to_o athanasius_n to_o be_v unsound_a â—â—_o unsound_a bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom_n pontâ—â—_n l._n 2._o c_o 25._o quod_fw-la illi_fw-la â—anâ—nes_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnes_fw-la probant_fw-la nonâ—â—â—lti_fw-la ex_fw-la epistoâ—â—_n athanasij_n ad_fw-la marcum_fw-la papam_fw-la in_o quaâ—e_a tit_n exemplum_fw-la nicaeni_n concilij_fw-la ex_fw-la romani_fw-la pontificis_fw-la scrinio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—empla_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la alexandria_n fuisse_fw-la creâ—â—â—_n ab_fw-la ariaâ—â—â—_n sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o verè_fw-la non_fw-fr â—â—_o solidv_n â—â—_o and_o what_o sound_a evidence_n he_o have_v bring_v from_o his_o indian_a tale_n and_o the_o other_o epistle_n to_o felix_n have_v be_v declare_v so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n may_v consider_v that_o fures_fw-la clamorem_fw-la thief_n may_v sly_a from_o his_o voice_n but_o true_a man_n tremble_v not_o at_o the_o noise_n he_o may_v strain_v himself_o against_o brazen_a face_n enormous_a untruth_n calumniation_n but_o who_o do_v he_o wound_v but_o himself_o that_o among_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n can_v bring_v one_o argument_n for_o these_o arabic_a canon_n but_o these_o false_a birth_n lie_v counter_a feit_z and_o yet_o do_v swagger_v triumph_n rage_n and_o swell_v against_o he_o that_o just_o putt_v desiance_n to_o his_o folly_n but_o leave_v these_o counterfeit_n the_o jesuite_n will_v â—â—â—swade_v we_o that_o he_o will_v proceed_v in_o lay_v down_o the_o judgâ—â—â—â—_n of_o the_o anncient_a father_n concern_v the_o derivation_n of_o s._n peterâ—_n supreme_a jurisdiction_n unto_o all_o his_o lawful_a successor_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v â—_o reply_v pag._n â—_o the_o jesuite_n do_v well_o to_o distinguish_v those_o that_o follow_v from_o those_o that_o in_o this_o point_n he_o have_v already_o allege_v but_o with_o who_o do_v he_o begin_v with_o he_o i_o suppose_v that_o will_v fail_v he_o when_o it_o come_v to_o trial_n and_o that_o be_v s._n augustine_n donati_n augustine_n augâ—in_v psal_n mum_o contra_fw-la partem_fw-la donati_n who_o express_v what_o the_o jesuite_n be_v to_o prove_v most_o plain_o reckon_v say_v he_o the_o priest_n even_o from_o peter_n seat_n and_o observe_v who_o to_o who_o have_v ever_o succeed_v in_o that_o rank_n of_o father_n that_o same_o be_v the_o rock_n which_o the_o proud_a gate_n of_o hell_n do_v not_o overcome_v â—â—_o overcome_v reply_v pag._n â—â—_o loe_o here_o say_v the_o jesuite_n s._n augustine_n make_v the_o very_a succession_n of_o bishop_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o invincible_a rock_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o it_o be_v ground_v in_o peter_n and_o thereby_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o 59_o it_o reply_v pag._n 59_o s._n augustine_n speak_v nothing_o here_o to_o the_o jesuite_n purpose_n for_o he_o neither_o make_v peter_n the_o monarch_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o the_o pope_n his_o sole_a successor_n in_o that_o monarchy_n neither_o do_v s._n augustine_n as_o the_o jesuit_n affirm_v make_v the_o very_a succession_n
of_o bishop_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o invincible_a rock_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n for_o who_o will_v dream_v that_o father_n to_o esteem_v that_o present_a seat_n or_o succession_n to_o be_v the_o rock_n for_o any_o other_o reason_n then_o because_o they_o hold_v the_o rock_n confess_v by_o peter_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n not_o only_a peter_n successor_n at_o rome_n but_o all_o other_o successor_n of_o peter_n &_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n may_v bestile_v rock_n retor_n rock_n origen_n in_o math_n hom_n 1._o petra_n est_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d omnis_fw-la qui_fw-la imitator_n est_fw-la christi_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la bibebant_fw-la qui_fw-la bibebant_fw-la de_fw-fr spiritali_fw-la consequenti_fw-la petra_fw-la et_fw-la super_fw-la omni_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la petra_fw-la aedificatur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la enim_fw-la quibuscunque_fw-la perfectis_fw-la qui_fw-la habent_fw-la in_o se_fw-la congregationem_fw-la verborum_fw-la &_o oâ—erum_fw-la &_o sensuum_fw-la omnium_fw-la qui_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la beatitudinem_fw-la operantur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d eccelesia_n dei_fw-la cvi_fw-la porte_fw-fr non_fw-la praevalent_a inserorum_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la â—per_fw-la unum_fw-la illum_fw-la petrum_fw-la arbitraris_fw-la vniversam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la aedificari_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la quid_fw-la dicis_fw-la de_fw-la jacobo_n &_o johanne_n filijs_fw-la tonitrui_fw-la vel_fw-la de_fw-la singulis_fw-la apostolis_n vere_n ergo_fw-la ad_fw-la petrum_fw-la quidem_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la â—u_n es_fw-la petrus_n etc._n etc._n tamen_fw-la omnibus_fw-la apostolis_n &_o omnibus_fw-la quibuscunque_fw-la perfectis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la dictum_fw-la viâ—â—_n retor_n for_o why_o may_v not_o those_o church_n that_o cleave_v fast_o to_o the_o rock_n of_o faith_n be_v call_v rock_n to_o stay_v and_o adhere_v unto_o praestant_fw-la unto_o iranaeus_n l._n 4._o c._n 43._o ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesijs_fw-la sure_a presbyteris_fw-la oporter_fw-la obaudire_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n quicunque_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la successione_n charisma_n veritatis_fw-la certum_fw-la secundùm_fw-la beneplacitum_fw-la patris_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la idem_fw-la c._n 44._o adherere_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o apostoloâ—um_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la oustodiunt_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la ordine_fw-la sermonem_fw-la sanum_fw-la &_o conversatio_fw-la nem_fw-la sine_fw-la offen_n sa_fw-it praestant_fw-la as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a &_o her_o bishop_n in_o regard_n augustine_n say_v in_o that_o very_a psalm_n that_o if_o any_o man_n come_v full_a of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n we_o be_v wont_v to_o give_v ear_n unto_o he_o as_o unto_o these_o man_n audire_fw-la man_n august_n in_o psalm_n contra_fw-la partem_fw-la donati_n talis_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la ad_fw-la te_fw-la veniat_fw-la plenus_fw-la catholica_fw-la side_n quales_fw-la illoâ—_n sanctos_fw-la viros_fw-la omâ—es_fw-la solemus_fw-la audire_fw-la but_o what_o make_v the_o former_a word_n to_o the_o jesuite_n conclusion_n do_v s._n augustine_n here_o declare_v roman_a priest_n successor_n to_o peter_n in_o a_o monarchical_a estate_n or_o such_o unmoveable_a ground_a rock_n that_o all_o the_o church_n in_o time_n to_o come_v must_v be_v ground_v upon_o they_o sure_o the_o sesuite_n will_v never_o find_v this_o to_o be_v s._n augustine_n meaning_n but_o from_o what_o the_o roman_a priest_n have_v be_v and_o from_o what_o for_o the_o present_a they_o be_v allude_v to_o our_o savior_n word_n he_o do_v style_v they_o a_o rock_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n do_v not_o at_o that_o time_n prevail_v against_o make_v they_o a_o good_a directory_n to_o truth_n whilst_o they_o adhear_v to_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n for_o by_o the_o course_n of_o that_o psalm_n we_o can_v conceive_v s._n augustine_n to_o have_v think_v otherwise_o in_o regard_n he_o do_v not_o give_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n power_n to_o end_n and_o determine_v that_o controversy_n but_o make_v donatus_n his_o request_n to_o have_v his_o cause_n hear_v at_o rome_n to_o be_v unjust_a tell_v we_o what_o the_o emperor_n have_v ordain_v that_o divers_a bishop_n &_o priest_n shall_v hear_v the_o matter_n &_o not_o the_o roman_a bishop_n alone_o audite_fw-la alone_o august_n ibid._n no_o donatus_n cùm_fw-la volebat_fw-la africam_fw-la totam_fw-la obtiâ—ere_fw-la tunc_fw-la judices_fw-la transmarinos_fw-la petijt_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n sed_fw-la haectam_fw-la unjust_a petitio_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la de_fw-fr charitate_fw-la ho_o ipsa_fw-la veritas_fw-la clamaâ—_fw-mi quam_fw-la uclo_fw-la modo_fw-la refeâ—e_fw-la nam_fw-la consensit_fw-la impeâ—â—â—or_fw-la â—â—â—â—t_fw-la quae_fw-la soderenâ—_n romae_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la qui_fw-la tunc_fw-la possent_fw-la caeciliano_n cuâ—_n illâ—_n audite_fw-la which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v do_v i_o suppose_v if_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v have_v that_o monarchy_n by_o apostolical_a succession_n which_o now_o they_o pretend_v by_o that_o title_n to_o enjoy_v but_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o augustine_n that_o prove_v the_o roman_a bishop_n successor_n of_o peter_n in_o any_o office_n power_n or_o bishopric_n or_o so_o much_o as_o make_v he_o bishop_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o have_v his_o seat_n there_o where_o the_o roman_a priest_n have_v their_o succession_n he_o insinuate_v but_o in_o this_o place_n he_o tell_v we_o no_o more_o nor_o so_o much_o as_o eusebius_n who_o begin_v the_o roman_a bishop_n with_o linus_n est_fw-la linus_n eusebius_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n â—_o linus_n verò_fw-la primum_fw-la post_fw-la petri_n &_o pauli_n martyrium_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la episco_n patum_fw-la sorâ—iâ—ut_fw-la est_fw-la for_o the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n after_o the_o martyrdom_n of_o peter_n and_o paul_n can_v no_o more_o make_v peter_n bishop_n of_o rome_n than_o paul_n and_o i_o think_v they_o will_v not_o admit_v two_o bishop_n at_o once_o in_o one_o city_n much_o more_o may_v be_v urge_v to_o show_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v produce_v s._n augustine_n to_o testify_v that_o which_o he_o never_o think_v of_o but_o i_o will_v come_v to_o chrysostome_n who_o the_o jesuite_n produce_v expect_v much_o from_o he_o because_o he_o name_v peter_n successor_n why_o say_v he_o do_v christ_n shed_v his_o blood_n but_o to_o regain_v those_o sheep_n the_o care_n of_o who_o he_o commit_v both_o to_o peter_n and_o to_o peter_n successor_n 59_o successor_n reply_v pag._n 59_o i_o ask_v the_o jesuite_n whether_o he_o think_v the_o apostle_n have_v no_o commission_n from_o christ_n to_o have_v a_o care_n of_o his_o sheep_n whether_o go_v you_o into_o all_o the_o world_n and_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n 15_o creature_n mark_v 16._o 15_o do_v command_v no_o care_n of_o christ_n flock_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v no_o successor_n of_o peter_n but_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n cardinal_n cusanus_fw-la can_v deny_v that_o all_o bishop_n be_v the_o successor_n of_o peter_n petri_n peter_n nich._n de_fw-fr cusa_n card._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr concord_n cath_z c._n 13._o non_fw-la possumus_fw-la negare_fw-la omnes_fw-la episeopos_n esse_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la successores_fw-la scilicet_fw-la petri_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o the_o jesuite_n express_v himself_o to_o be_v free_a from_o the_o conceit_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v s._n peter_n only_a successor_n for_o why_o shall_v he_o persuade_v basil_n to_o be_v mind_n full_a of_o his_o duty_n he_o be_v a_o bishop_n from_o this_o reason_n because_o christ_n say_v to_o peter_n love_v thou_o i_o feed_v my_o sheep_n and_o because_o the_o care_n of_o his_o sheep_n be_v commit_v to_o peter_n and_o his_o successor_n section_n successor_n see_v chrysostom_n testimony_n produce_v before_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o section_n if_o he_o have_v not_o be_v one_o of_o they_o this_o title_n i_o have_v show_v before_o do_v belong_v to_o other_o bishop_n as_o well_o as_o roman_a neither_o be_v it_o deny_v by_o bellarmine_n himself_o apostolis_n himself_o bellarm_n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n â—_o c._n 23._o respondeo_fw-la in_o apostlatu_fw-la continâ—â—_n episcopatum_fw-la &_o episcope_n succedere_fw-la apostolis_n and_o therefore_o i_o may_v forbear_v here_o further_o to_o press_v it_o the_o next_o be_v leo_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o speak_v to_o that_o which_o be_v urge_v from_o hâ—m_n here_o in_o regard_n i_o shall_v have_v more_o occasion_n in_o the_o next_o section_n he_o love_v to_o be_v great_a and_o to_o make_v peter_n great_a than_o he_o shall_v be_v for_o his_o own_o sake_n as_o i_o have_v in_o some_o thing_n before_o declare_v &_o shall_v hereafter_o more_o full_o show_v yet_o all_o that_o he_o desire_v i_o suppose_v be_v not_o so_o great_a licentiousness_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n desire_v and_o will_v have_v all_o to_o attribute_v unto_o himself_o now_o come_v the_o bishop_n of_o ravenna_n peter_n chrysologus_fw-la in_o his_o epistle_n to_o eutyches_n you_o be_v not_o much_o behold_v to_o that_o see_v that_o you_o shall_v bring_v a_o bishop_n from_o thence_o to_o give_v testimony_n for_o you_o but_o what_o say_v he_o we_o desire_v thou_o honourable_a brother_n that_o thou_o will_v listen_v dutiful_o unto_o those_o thing_n which_o
either_o 〈◊〉_d a_o neasâ—uig_n or_o mac_n a_o 〈◊〉_d in_o regard_n their_o father_n villainy_n adhâ—â—eth_v to_o that_o name_n and_o add_v affliction_n to_o their_o mind_n but_o for_o the_o son_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n among_o we_o what_o repine_v humour_n can_v possess_v they_o see_v they_o be_v bear_v in_o honourabâ—_n 〈…〉_o dist_n 56._o cap._n osius_n osius_n papa_n suis_fw-la silius_fw-la stephani_fw-la subdiaconi_fw-la bonifacius_n papa_n â—uit_fw-la silius_fw-la â—ucundi_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la faelix_fw-la papa_n filius_fw-la felicis_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la de_fw-la titulo_fw-la fasciolae_fw-la agapitus_fw-la papa_n â—ilius_fw-la â—ordiâ—ni_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la theodorus_n papa_n 〈◊〉_d theodoâ—â—_n episcopi_fw-la de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d hierosotyma_fw-la sylverium_fw-la papa_n filius_fw-la sylverij_fw-la episcopi_fw-la romae_fw-la deusdedit_fw-la papa_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d subdiaâ—â—â—_n 〈…〉_o natione_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o matrimony_n their_o patent_n live_v in_o the_o rule_n appoint_v by_o the_o apostle_n but_o the_o jesuite_n as_o 〈◊〉_d of_o his_o sport_n come_v in_o good_a sober_a sadness_n to_o wonder_n that_o in_o such_o a_o audience_n the_o answerer_n blush_v not_o to_o affirm_v that_o rome_n have_v little_a to_o allege_v for_o this_o perfâ—rment_n but_o only_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v crucify_v in_o it_o but_o what_o can_v the_o jesuite_n say_v it_o have_v more_o why_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d can_v â—ll_o 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o apostle_n do_v relinquish_v antiâ—â—h_n to_o 〈◊〉_d his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d she_o â—â—_o she_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o as_o if_o the_o bishop_n and_o monarch_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d a_o double_a mansion_n several_a place_n of_o 〈◊〉_d do_v their_o pope_n relinquish_v rome_n by_o fit_v in_o the_o chair_n â—â—_o aâ—ignion_n or_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o he_o that_o keep_v the_o bishopric_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n can_v relinquish_v the_o seâ—_n of_o antioch_n by_o his_o so_o journ_v at_o rome_n the_o jesuit_n will_v persuade_v it_o and_o that_o it_o be_v do_v by_o command_n for_o say_v he_o as_o 〈◊〉_d writer_n 〈…〉_o â—_o 〈◊〉_d papa_n &_o 〈…〉_o do_v relate_v peter_n be_v command_v so_o to_o do_v by_o christ_n himself_o â—_o reply_v pag._n â—_o here_o be_v nothing_o to_o make_v the_o inheritance_n to_o descend_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o divine_a testimony_n and_o bellarmine_n indeed_o conceive_v the_o matter_n only_o probable_a peremptory_o he_o conclude_v not_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n by_o divine_a right_n be_v peter_n successor_n legitur_fw-la successor_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n l._n â—_o c._n 1â—_n et_fw-la quo_fw-la â—â—am_fw-la â—_o mar_n 〈◊〉_d papa_n i_o â—â—_o ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sâ—â—â—bit_n 〈…〉_o &_o s._n 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d contra_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o athanasius_n in_o apâ—logia_n 〈…〉_o marry_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o â—â—â—_o improbabile_fw-la dominum_fw-la 〈…〉_o ut_fw-la â—edem_fw-la 〈…〉_o â—â—geret_fw-la 〈◊〉_d uâ—_n romaâ—â—s_fw-la episcopus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o succedâ—ret_n sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o hoc_fw-la â—â—t_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ratio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d institutione_n 〈◊〉_d quâ—_n in_o â—â—â—gelio_fw-la legitur_fw-la neither_o will_v he_o 〈◊〉_d it_o of_o faith_n that_o peter_n seat_n be_v there_o only_a hâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v most_o probable_a &_o pâ—â—_n credendum_fw-la and_o he_o will_v â—â—count_v you_o a_o catholic_a if_o you_o believe_v it_o 〈◊〉_d it_o bellarm_n de_fw-fr rom_n pont._n l_o 4._o c_o 4._o accedit_fw-la quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christâ—m_fw-la imperasse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la romae_fw-la â—edem_fw-la â—ollocaret_fw-la non_fw-la â—â—men_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibi_fw-la collâ—caret_fw-la quoâ—iam_fw-la ergo_fw-la â—on_n constat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d peâ—â—o_o ut_fw-la romae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d colâ—ocaret_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d divine_a &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d romae_fw-la â—â—dem_fw-la esse_fw-la constitutam_fw-la sed_fw-la â—amen_fw-la ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d est_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v this_o the_o cardo_n upon_o which_o all_o the_o catholic_a roman_a â—aith_n turâ—eth_v be_v there_o no_o more_o certainery_n in_o this_o groundwork_n must_v peter_n inheritance_n descend_v certain_o upon_o he_o who_o by_o divine_a right_n can_v prove_v himself_o to_o be_v his_o heir_n must_v one_o witness_n and_o that_o a_o know_a counterfeit_n and_o â—â—_o marcellus_z 〈◊〉_d marcellus_z haec_fw-la est_fw-la una_fw-la illarum_fw-la epistolarum_fw-la quas_fw-la 〈…〉_o esse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tell_v we_o a_o story_n and_o obtâ—ine_v a_o empire_n this_o be_v too_o great_a a_o reward_n now_o whereas_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o peter_n be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o space_n of_o â—â—ve_n and_o twenty_o year_n antioch_n have_v have_v he_o but_o for_o 〈◊〉_d and_o consequent_o that_o he_o labour_v more_o fruitful_o and_o perform_v all_o more_o glorious_o in_o she_o then_o in_o antioch_n and_o final_o that_o in_o she_o even_o by_o christ_n appointment_n also_o he_o glorify_a god_n by_o the_o triumph_n of_o his_o bless_a death_n and_o martyrdom_n â—â—_o martyrdom_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o we_o tell_v he_o that_o when_o he_o attempt_v to_o prove_v it_o he_o shall_v not_o want_v his_o answer_n that_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n preach_v there_o be_v crucify_v it_o be_v not_o much_o to_o grant_v he_o but_o that_o he_o be_v there_o such_o a_o bishop_n as_o linus_n etc._n etc._n he_o can_v prove_v some_o make_v he_o such_o a_o bishop_n as_o paul_n be_v other_o make_v he_o nonâ—_n at_o all_o but_o the_o jesuite_n charge_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n with_o judge_v according_a to_o the_o flesh_n when_o he_o make_v the_o apostle_n death_n and_o martyrdom_n a_o slender_a cause_n why_o peter_n shall_v respect_v she_o so_o much_o and_o further_o tell_v we_o that_o sure_o it_o be_v no_o slender_a cause_n for_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o sing_v therefore_o of_o she_o with_o solemn_a joy_n in_o this_o sort_n thrice_o happy_a rome_n that_o with_o the_o purple_a blood_n of_o such_o great_a prince_n stand_v adorn_v and_o blesâ—_n not_o thy_o own_o worth_n but_o their_o deserve_a good_a crown_n theâ—_n on_o earth_n the_o fair_a and_o the_o best_a 62._o best_a reply_v pag._n 61_o &_o 62._o this_o most_o grave_a and_o reverend_a lord_n i_o confess_v have_v nor_o as_o some_o of_o you_o can_v have_v wish_v put_v off_o the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d man_n in_o the_o jesuitical_a form_n â—â—â—_o form_n hassen_n mullerus_n de_fw-fr votis_n jesuitarum_fw-la c._n 6_o si_fw-la nobiles_fw-la illoâ—â—m_fw-la societatem_fw-la ingrediantur_fw-la &_o habitu_fw-la veniant_fw-la splendido_fw-la ac_fw-la precioâ—o_fw-la permittunt_fw-la â—t_a triduum_fw-la eâ—m_fw-la reservent_fw-la quo_fw-la lapso_fw-la cum_fw-la â—â—ponere_fw-la alteri_fw-la dare_v &_o societatis_fw-la habitum_fw-la endure_v jubenâ—â—â—_n et_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la secundùm_fw-la illos_fw-la veterem_fw-la exuere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d seipâ—â—m_fw-la mottiâ—â—cais_fw-fr &_o alteri_fw-la suâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—_o neither_o as_o your_o pope_n have_v interpret_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d the_o apostle_n â—_o rom_n 8._o â—_o â—_o â—_o but_o as_o god_n himself_o have_v command_v wherein_o the_o world_n be_v his_o witness_n and_o i_o think_v it_o but_o time_n spend_v to_o justify_v he_o but_o let_v the_o jesuite_n prove_v this_o argument_n to_o be_v convince_a if_o he_o be_v able_a his_o sing_n and_o other_o passage_n will_v not_o work_v the_o feat_n the_o saint_n in_o rome_n we_o know_v as_o the_o church_n otherwhere_o be_v much_o confirm_v by_o the_o patient_a suffering_n of_o the_o martyr_n but_o this_o do_v not_o excuse_n much_o less_o lift_v up_o rome_n do_v abel_n blood_n that_o â—â—yed_v for_o vengeance_n plead_v then_o for_o glory_n do_v innocent_a blood_n theâ—_n advance_v your_o monarchy_n that_o now_o you_o make_v yourselves_o drink_v with_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o saint_n jerusalem_n lose_v heâ—_n crown_n by_o the_o prophet_n blood_n must_v the_o apostle_n triple_a rome_n yet_o if_o rome_n get_v such_o a_o height_n in_o martyr_v the_o servant_n what_o may_v jerusalem_n plead_v that_o crucify_v the_o lord_n these_o you_o see_v be_v silly_a invention_n but_o the_o strong_a pillar_n of_o the_o roman_a faith_n the_o jesuite_n have_v do_v his_o doe_n yet_o he_o tell_v we_o much_o more_o may_v be_v say_v and_o now_o entreat_v the_o gentle_a reader_n to_o trophy_n he_o for_o his_o victory_n but_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o cure_v the_o wound_n that_o have_v be_v give_v he_o though_o he_o conceit_v all_o fair_a smooth_a and_o without_o scar_n he_o have_v labour_v to_o make_v father_n and_o saint_n the_o pope_n servingman_n the_o world_n his_o city_n heaven_n the_o church_n and_o purgatory_n his_o province_n but_o as_o you_o see_v all_o in_o vain_a the_o downright_a blow_n he_o persuade_v himself_o to_o be_v give_v we_o feel_v not_o our_o shield_n be_v not_o pierce_v neither_o be_v the_o least_o of_o our_o bull_n work_v overthrow_v sect_n ix_o this_o section_n show_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v overshoot_v himself_o in_o a_o term_n will_v now_o make_v it_o good_a by_o a_o interpretation_n and_o thereupon_o he_o inquire_v whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v
right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o 6â—_n no_o reply_v pag._n 6â—_n in_o discuss_v whereof_o he_o dare_v not_o free_a this_o church_n of_o his_o so_o much_o adore_v from_o all_o spot_n but_o only_o those_o which_o be_v of_o misbelief_n 6â—_n misbelief_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n and_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n who_o spot_n can_v they_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n foâ—_n that_o company_n which_o beleive_v not_o aright_o can_v be_v esteem_v the_o church_n universal_a or_o particular_a so_o that_o every_o pure_a church_n in_o this_o sense_n have_v equal_a privilege_n though_o he_o pretend_v it_o for_o the_o only_a triumph_n of_o the_o roman_a 〈◊〉_d every_o man_n for_o â—e_v that_o be_v a_o heretic_n true_o &_o 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d appellation_n 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o christ_n neither_o of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o jesuites_n preface_n be_v full_a of_o confidence_n as_o the_o answerer_n provoke_v i_o to_o the_o former_a disputation_n though_o i_o ween_v to_o his_o smart_n so_o do_v he_o give_v i_o the_o like_a occasion_n to_o buckle_v with_o he_o in_o this_o 6â—_n this_o reply_v pag._n 6â—_n who_o have_v we_o here_o hercules_n with_o his_o distasse_fw-la smart_n your_o father_n and_o fellow_n use_v not_o to_o make_v such_o worthy_n smart_n you_o have_v rather_o destroy_v then_o wound_v man_n of_o his_o quality_n but_o where_o or_o when_o be_v this_o smart_n give_v i_o be_o sure_a wound_n or_o scar_n we_o see_v none_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n have_v be_v chaplain_n to_o the_o knight_n errant_a that_o fight_v sleep_v that_o conquer_v in_o his_o dream_n otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o stand_v so_o fortify_v with_o imagination_n as_o he_o here_o appear_v nemo_fw-la alieno_fw-la sensu_fw-la est_fw-la miser_n he_o feel_v nothing_o he_o complain_v not_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o he_o smart_v because_o you_o conceit_n that_o you_o have_v give_v he_o a_o wound_n this_o have_v declare_v your_o desire_n but_o not_o manifest_v the_o event_n you_o presume_v of_o but_o the_o jesuite_n seem_v to_o promise_v as_o much_o in_o this_o section_n because_o in_o a_o twit_v fashion_n the_o answerer_n say_v that_o he_o not_o only_o confound_v urbem_fw-la &_o orbem_fw-la but_o also_o mingle_v heaven_n and_o earth_n together_o by_o give_v the_o title_n of_o unspotted_a unto_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o romeâ—_n â—_z 62_o reply_v pag_n 62_o have_v not_o this_o just_a charge_n a_o just_a ground_n if_o unspotted_a be_v a_o property_n belong_v to_o the_o triumphant_a church_n can_v it_o without_o confusion_n be_v attribute_v to_o any_o church_n upon_o earth_n how_o this_o word_n unspotted_a be_v take_v in_o antiquity_n s._n augustine_n have_v determine_v and_o the_o jesuite_n say_v nothing_o material_o in_o opposition_n why_o shall_v it_o not_o then_o continue_v in_o its_o strength_n still_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o the_o church_n in_o general_a or_o in_o her_o member_n can_v be_v without_o spot_n that_o be_v not_o defile_v in_o manner_n though_o free_a from_o false_a belief_n the_o church_n that_o be_v free_a as_o much_o as_o humane_a imperfection_n will_v permit_v confess_v herself_o black_a though_o comely_a 5._o comely_a cant._n 1._o 5._o and_o the_o jesuites_n citation_n out_o of_o paâ—â—anus_n acknowledge_v a_o freedom_n only_o from_o heresy_n 〈◊〉_d paciâ—â—_n epist_n 3._o ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la habens_fw-la â—aculam_fw-la neque_fw-la rugam_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la haereses_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d which_o every_o true_a church_n and_o true_a member_n have_v but_o how_o will_v the_o jesuite_n prove_v the_o roman_a church_n unspotted_a first_o he_o must_v have_v two_o thing_n grant_v he_o according_a to_o his_o present_a understanding_n or_o â—lse_o a_o â—ople_n first_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o must_v understand_v the_o church_n universal_a as_o have_v be_v declare_v say_v he_o in_o the_o former_a section_n â—â—_o section_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o second_o unspotted_a must_v have_v relation_n to_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n only_o and_o then_o i_o say_v say_v the_o jesuit_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v ever_o be_v find_v and_o will_v always_o remain_v in_o that_o kind_n unspotted_a even_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ibid._n world_n reply_v ibid._n this_o be_v afterwit_n but_o if_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o prove_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v the_o universal_a in_o the_o former_a section_n if_o the_o universal_a have_v be_v without_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n when_o the_o roman_a in_o her_o prime-member_n have_v be_v infect_v with_o leprosy_n this_o will_v declare_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n if_o their_o position_n be_v true_a be_v not_o without_o spot_n or_o catholic_n either_o for_o the_o first_o the_o jesuite_n will_v get_v by_o petition_n that_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v understand_v the_o church_n universal_a but_o let_v he_o know_v it_o be_v too_o great_a a_o alm_n to_o grant_v a_o adversary_n coâ—â—ngunt_fw-la joh._n sansour_n in_o polycratic_n l._n 6._o c._n 24._o romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la materomnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la est_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la matrem_fw-la exhibet_fw-la alijs_fw-la quam_fw-la novercam_fw-la sedentin_n eâ_fw-la scribas_fw-la &_o phâ—risae_n ponentes_fw-la onâ—â—a_fw-la importabiliâ—_n in_o humeris_fw-la hominum_fw-la quae_fw-la digito_fw-la non_fw-la coâ—â—ngunt_fw-la and_o too_o great_a a_o imposture_n to_o be_v approve_v in_o they_o for_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o modest_a man_n will_v dream_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v so_o forsake_v by_o christ_n that_o it_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o be_v govern_v but_o by_o reprobate_n as_o aliace_n testify_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n reproboâ—_n church_n card_n de_fw-fr aliaco_fw-it lib._n the_o reform_v eccl._n cap._n the_o reform_v religionum_fw-la in_o proverbium_fw-la abierit_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la statum_fw-la venisse_fw-la romanâ—â—_n ecclesium_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la fit_a digna_fw-la regi_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la reproboâ—_n the_o catholic_a church_n be_v a_o poor_a mother_n to_o instruct_v god_n saint_n if_o she_o do_v not_o show_v herself_o so_o much_o a_o mother_n as_o a_o stepmother_n if_o in_o it_o fit_v the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n heretic_n long_o since_o condemn_v by_o christ_n and_o yet_o johannes_n sarisburiensis_n affirm_v this_o of_o your_o roman_a church_n beside_o those_o which_o have_v bewail_v her_o corruption_n have_v tell_v we_o that_o pprophecy_n be_v now_o quite_o extinct_a in_o the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v accomplish_v that_o be_v write_v 3._o king_n 22._o i_o will_v go_v forth_o and_o be_v a_o lye_a spirit_n in_o the_o mouth_n of_o all_o the_o prophet_n 〈◊〉_d prophet_n aâ—aâ—_n pelagde_v planctu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la l._n x._o act_n 5_o ad_fw-la literam_fw-la hoâ—â—â—_n in_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la deficit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la scribitur_fw-la 3._o regum_fw-la 22._o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o this_o be_v harsh_a for_o any_o to_o affirm_v of_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o god_n moreover_o it_o be_v cross_v to_o reason_n itself_o to_o make_v the_o roman_a the_o catholic_a who_o will_v think_v that_o the_o whole_a be_v not_o great_a than_o the_o part_n that_o catholic_a and_o roman_a be_v ejusdem_fw-la ambitus_fw-la that_o the_o church_n subsistency_n must_v depend_v upon_o that_o which_o will_v fail_v that_o must_v be_v utter_o overthrow_v futuram_fw-la overthrow_v ribeâ—â—_n jescom_n in_o apocal._n 14._o numb_a 44._o &_o 48._o babylon_n significat_fw-la romam_fw-la in_o sine_fw-la mundi_fw-la futuram_fw-la beside_o be_v there_o no_o saint_n nor_o martyr_n before_o rome_n be_v convert_v nay_o be_v all_o the_o roman_a convert_v malefidian_n before_o peter_n confirm_v they_o in_o the_o faith_n poor_a stephen_n thou_o be_v little_a behold_v to_o this_o jesuite_n that_o heaven_n must_v now_o be_v shut_v to_o thou_o which_o christ_n open_v 36._o open_v act_n 7._o 36._o at_o thy_o matyredome_n but_o this_o grand-imposture_n have_v be_v late_o lay_v open_a by_o the_o reverend_a and_o learned_a the_o lord_n bishop_n of_o leichfield_n and_o therefore_o i_o may_v here_o forbear_v it_o for_o the_o second_o i_o will_v brief_o declare_v the_o jesuite_n vanity_n herein_o and_o first_o to_o take_v away_o all_o ambiguity_n s._n augustine_n that_o use_v this_o term_n of_o unspotted_a not_o of_o the_o primitive_a roman_a but_o of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n expound_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o same_o wheresoever_o in_o these_o book_n i_o have_v make_v mention_n of_o the_o church_n not_o have_v spot_n or_o wrinkle_n it_o be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v take_v as_o if_o she_o be_v so_o now_o but_o that_o she_o be_v prepare_v to_o be_v so_o when_o she_o shall_v appear_v to_o be_v glorious_a for_o now_o by_o reason_n of_o certain_a ignorances_n and_n infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n the_o whole_a church_n have_v cause_n to_o say_v every_o day_n forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n nostra_fw-la trespass_n august_n retract_v l._n 2._o c._n â—8_o vbi_fw-la cunque_fw-la iâ—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d memorari_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
non_fw-la habentem_fw-la maculam_fw-la aut_fw-la rugam_fw-la non_fw-la sie_n accipiendum_fw-la est_fw-la quasi_fw-la jam_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la prâ—paratur_fw-la ut_fw-la sit_fw-la quando_fw-la apparebit_fw-la etiam_fw-la gloriosa_fw-la nunc_fw-la enim_fw-la propter_fw-la quasdam_fw-la ignoranties_n &_o in_o firmitate_v membrorum_fw-la fuorum_fw-la habet_fw-la unde_fw-la quotidie_fw-la tota_fw-la dicat_fw-la dimitte_v nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la neither_o be_v it_o the_o question_n in_o those_o time_n whether_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v be_v spot_v with_o heresy_n but_o with_o sin_n which_o be_v affirm_v by_o the_o catholic_a church_n against_o the_o pelagian_n and_o this_o the_o jesuite_n seem_v now_o to_o conceive_v and_o therefore_o tell_v we_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorant_a and_o infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n in_o other_o matter_n the_o church_n have_v daily_a occasion_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n 43._o sin_n reply_v pag._n 43._o now_o the_o jesuite_n give_v the_o title_n â—â—spotted_a unto_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n which_o he_o account_v the_o catholic_a how_o can_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n understand_v the_o jesuite_n term_n but_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n as_o it_o be_v vulgar_o take_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n second_o it_o be_v not_o amiss_o to_o conceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o challenge_n call_v the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d challenge_n 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o challenge_n in_o his_o enquiry_n in_o this_o section_n he_o lay_v down_o the_o roman_a church_n without_o reâ—â—raynt_n of_o primitive_a and_o last_o in_o his_o proof_n he_o think_v he_o have_v get_v the_o day_n if_o from_o antiquity_n he_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v fail_v so_o that_o you_o may_v easy_o â—spy_v who_o be_v guilty_a of_o mingle_v one_o question_n with_o another_o but_o let_v we_o examine_v this_o new_a question_n as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v propose_v it_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o â—â—_o no_o reply_v pag_n â—â—_o that_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v invincible_a never_o fundamental_o err_v in_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n in_o all_o her_o member_n for_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o 500_o year_n after_o christ_n the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o our_o doctor_n and_o master_n grannt_v challenge_n grannt_v in_o his_o challenge_n so_o that_o the_o controversy_n be_v not_o what_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v in_o regard_n of_o heresy_n but_o what_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v liable_a unto_o in_o her_o succession_n which_o the_o jesuite_n resolve_v and_o as_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v from_o augustine_n and_o other_o anncient_a father_n say_v that_o in_o the_o truth_n and_o soundness_n of_o her_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n she_o be_v evermore_o invincible_a and_o not_o liable_a to_o any_o spot_n or_o stain_v 43_o stain_v reply_v pag._n 43_o but_o neither_o do_v augustine_n origen_n eusebius_n alexander_n b._n of_o alexandria_n athanasius_n cyrill_n b._n of_o jerusalem_n or_o philo_n carpathius_n etc._n etc._n who_o he_o urge_v 650_o urge_v reply_v pag_n 64_o &_o pag_n 650_o say_v any_o thing_n for_o the_o roman_a but_o for_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o which_o they_o bear_v testimony_n that_o it_o can_v fail_v so_o that_o our_o jesuite_n fall_v under_o bellarmine_n censure_n who_o affirm_v that_o they_o do_v but_o trifle_v away_o the_o time_n who_o contend_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n can_v absolute_o fail_v because_o it_o be_v grant_v by_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o concedunt_fw-la themselves_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la mil_fw-mi l._n 3._o c._n 13._o notandum_fw-la autem_fw-la est_fw-la muluâ—_n ex_fw-la nostris_fw-la tempus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dum_fw-la probant_fw-la absolute_a ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la dâ—ficere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d calâ—â—â—â—_n &_o eâ—teri_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—i_fw-la 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privilege_n of_o the_o unspotted_a crucifix_n â—_o non_fw-fr enim_fw-la turbari_fw-la te_fw-la con_fw-mi venâ—â—_n cùm_fw-la audicris_fw-la quia_fw-la tratar_n &_o crucifix_n integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n upon_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n matt_n 16._o so_o also_o they_o oftentimes_o deduce_v the_o same_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o prayer_n which_o christ_n make_v to_o his_o father_n for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v never_o fail_v luc_n 22._o wherein_o doubtless_o he_o be_v hear_v for_o his_o reverence_n heb._n 5._o 7._o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n why_o the_o roman_a shall_v enjoy_v this_o privilege_n either_o from_o christ_n promise_n or_o his_o prayer_n &_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v fail_v in_o deduce_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o former_a so_o do_v he_o show_v his_o ability_n in_o this_o latter_a at_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o first_o he_o bring_v in_o forge_a epistle_n under_o the_o name_n of_o lucius_n 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church_n which_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o venerable_a antiquity_n we_o find_v approve_v to_o remain_v ever_o free_a from_o all_o error_n to_o that_o rock_n against_o which_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v to_o that_o foundation_n which_o christ_n have_v settle_v by_o his_o promise_n and_o make_v for_o ever_o immovable_a by_o his_o obtain_a prayer_n 6â—_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n how_o non-erring_a a_o church_n your_o roman_a have_v be_v in_o her_o head_n be_v already_o declare_v how_o infallible_a a_o rule_n of_o faith_n your_o chief_a pastor_n have_v prove_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n venerable_a antiquity_n by_o several_a example_n have_v detect_v what_o a_o rock_n peter_n pretend_a successor_n have_v be_v when_o the_o devil_n be_v let_v loose_a to_o split_v so_o far_o as_o possible_a the_o ship_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o be_v leave_v you_o untell_v and_o who_o can_v believe_v that_o christ_n his_o prayer_n for_o peter_n faith_n be_v effectual_a for_o the_o pope_n when_o against_o faith_n they_o day_n he_o desire_v to_o usurp_v his_o kingdom_n this_o we_o catholic_n say_v the_o jesuite_n be_v exhort_v to_o do_v by_o s._n cyrill_n say_v let_v we_o remain_v as_o member_n in_o our_o head_n the_o apostolic_a throne_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n from_o whence_o it_o be_v our_o part_n to_o seek_v what_o we_o ought_v to_o believe_v this_o also_o all_o protestant_n be_v advise_v to_o do_v by_o a_o doctor_n of_o their_o own_o who_o as_o we_o hear_v before_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o ought_v diligent_o to_o search_v out_o the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n and_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n which_o be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n &_o have_v find_v she_o then_o set_v aside_o all_o other_o question_n they_o ought_v to_o embrace_v her_o communion_n follow_v her_o direction_n and_o rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n 6â—_n judgement_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n what_o doctor_n feild_n advise_v protestant_n to_o doe_n have_v be_v former_o 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former_o urge_v and_o answer_v he_o present_v we_o with_o these_o sentence_n of_o the_o ancient_a in_o which_o say_v he_o as_o in_o a_o pure_a mirror_n they_o may_v if_o they_o listen_v espy_v their_o enorâ—ions_n disagreement_n from_o the_o truth_n 63_o reply_v pag_n 63_o and_o the_o first_o ancient_a father_n that_o he_o produce_v be_v ireneus_fw-la all_o they_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n aught_o to_o obey_v say_v he_o unto_o those_o priest_n who_o have_v their_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n who_o together_o with_o the_o succession_n of_o their_o bishopric_n have_v receive_v the_o assure_a grace_n of_o truth_n according_a to_o the_o good_a will_n of_o the_o heavenly_a father_n and_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v for_o suspect_v such_o as_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o the_o like_o principal_a succession_n and_o join_v themselves_o together_o in_o any_o other_o place_n i_o say_v we_o ought_v to_o hold_v they_o as_o heretic_n of_o a_o perverse_a judgement_n or_o 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what_o leave_n have_v â—hâ—â—_n o_o valentine_n to_o turn_v my_o stream_n &_o fountain_n another_o way_n by_o what_o authority_n do_v thou_o remove_v my_o bound_n o_o apelles_n o_o luther_n o_o calvin_n o_o zuiâ—glius_n the_o possession_n be_v i_o i_o have_v it_o of_o old_a i_o enjoy_v it_o before_o you_o &c_n &c_n 70._o reply_v pag_n 69_o and_o 70._o all_o that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v produce_v from_o irenâ—us_n &_o tertullian_n will_v make_v little_a for_o justify_v his_o pretence_n if_o the_o point_n be_v true_o consider_v for_o there_o be_v a_o bare_a personal_a succession_n which_o may_v accompany_v a_o false_a church_n as_o it_o do_v the_o jewish_a when_o the_o pharisee_n saâ—e_v in_o moses_n chair_n and_o the_o church_n of_o the_o east_n when_o heretic_n invade_v the_o chair_n of_o catholic_a bishop_n second_o there_o be_v a_o successâ—â—â—_n not_o only_o personal_a of_o bishop_n &_o priest_n but_o where_o the_o catholic_n &_o apostolical_a doctrine_n be_v continue_v also_o the_o people_n we_o say_v where_o this_o be_v plain_a be_v bind_v to_o receive_v the_o doctrine_n from_o timothy_n every_o succeed_a bishop_n as_o timothy_n 14._o â—_o tim_n 1._o 14._o from_o the_o apostle_n that_o establish_a and_o first_o publish_v the_o same_o now_o whatsoever_o the_o jesuite_n have_v bring_v from_o these_o father_n be_v no_o way_n advantageous_a for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o we_o can_v show_v and_o have_v do_v as_o good_a personal_a succession_n as_o the_o roman_a bishop_n can_v claim_v any_o second_o to_o this_o our_o orderly_a succession_n we_o can_v and_o have_v prove_v by_o comparison_n and_o consanguinity_n of_o apostolical_a doctrine_n that_o we_o be_v true_a and_o apostolical_a church_n three_o the_o roman_a certainty_n upon_o which_o their_o profelyre_n must_v depend_v be_v no_o firm_a by_o these_o father_n testimony_n than_o ephesus_n smyrna_n corinth_n philippi_n germany_n spain_n france_n egypt_n lybia_n thessalonica_n diceret_fw-la thessalonica_n irenaeus_n pag._n 140_o 142._o disci_fw-la te_fw-la ab_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la habetis_fw-la romae_fw-la linum_fw-la &_o polycarpum_fw-la smyrnae_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edoctum_fw-la tertull._n praeser_n p._n c._n 37._o proximè_fw-la est_fw-la tibi_fw-la achaâ—_n habes_fw-la corinthum_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la longè_fw-la es_fw-la â—_o macedonia_n habes_fw-la philippos_n habes_fw-la thessalonicenses_n si_fw-mi potes_fw-la in_o asiam_fw-la tendere_fw-la habes_fw-la ephesum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la italiae_fw-la adjaces_fw-la haqes_fw-la romam_fw-la unde_fw-la nobis_fw-la quoque_fw-la authoritas_fw-la praest_n o_o est_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la argum_fw-la in_o tert._n de_fw-fr prescript_n &_o alibi_fw-la impress_n basil_n 1521._o tertullianus_n ecclesiam_fw-la unam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la nulla_fw-la loco_fw-la affigit_fw-la romanum_fw-la aec_fw-la lesiam_fw-la ornat_fw-la magnificae_fw-la laudis_fw-la elogio_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la tantam_fw-la 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themselves_o last_o the_o very_a name_n of_o catholic_a which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o this_o church_n amongst_o so_o many_o heresy_n that_o howsoever_o all_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n of_o catholic_a yet_o if_o a_o strange_a chance_n to_o inquire_v in_o what_o place_n do_v the_o catholickâ—_n meet_v together_o no_o heretic_n will_v dare_v to_o show_v hiâ—_n own_o church_n or_o house_n 70_o reply_v pag._n 70_o first_o i_o desire_v the_o jesuit_n to_o consider_v what_o augustine_n say_v that_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n &_o never_o any_o 〈◊〉_d more_o than_o papist_n who_o be_v all_o but_o donatist_n of_o which_o none_o be_v find_v in_o the_o ancient_a succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n second_o that_o although_o the_o title_n catholic_n do_v point_n at_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o then_o the_o title_n of_o man_n do_v point_n out_o heretic_n fineâ—â—_n heretic_n hieron_n cont_n luâ—ferianos_fw-la prope_fw-la 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unto_o she_o have_v waste_v away_o such_o spot_n as_o impair_v both_o the_o bounty_n and_o health_n too_o of_o that_o ancient_a church_n 7â—_n reply_v pag._n 7â—_n and_o what_o hinder_v this_o but_o the_o church_n of_o ireland_n may_v claim_v kindred_n with_o the_o ancient_a roman_a why_o he_o tell_v we_o if_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n and_o spouse_n of_o christ_n for_o 500_o year_n as_o he_o will_v â—oâ—_n deny_v what_o may_v we_o think_v of_o his_o i_o pray_v you_o which_o he_o himself_o do_v grant_v to_o be_v unlike_a unto_o the_o same_o 72_o reply_v pag_n 72_o do_v dissimilitude_n take_v away_o kindred_n brethren_n may_v be_v unlike_a as_o jacob_n and_o esau_n why_o not_o sister_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o conclude_v a_o prince_n of_o the_o house_n of_o austria_n from_o the_o lip_n although_o they_o much_o vary_v in_o their_o other_o proportion_n hypocrates_n his_o twin_n be_v not_o i_o think_v in_o all_o part_n so_o alike_o as_o the_o jesuite_n 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better_a appellation_n have_v memnon_n or_o cyrill_n from_o the_o nestorian_n sequâ—â—_n nestorian_n acta_fw-la concilial_a ephes_n tom_fw-mi â—_o acta_fw-la council_n ephes_n c._n 1._o p._n 774._o &_o sequâ—â—_n but_o for_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n i_o be_o so_o far_o persuade_v of_o papal_a charity_n from_o their_o fiery_a chariot_n that_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o will_v adventure_v a_o other_o powder-plot_n to_o blow_v we_o up_o to_o heaven_n upon_o condition_n that_o his_o usurpation_n in_o darkness_n be_v not_o unlightn_v and_o so_o trouble_v with_o we_o on_o earth_n but_o the_o jesuite_n be_v impatient_a and_o will_v scorn_v away_o this_o presage_n as_o though_o say_v he_o there_o have_v not_o be_v a_o general_a peace_n for_o many_o age_n before_o the_o stir_n of_o luther_n and_o his_o rebellious_a rout_n notwithstanding_o that_o the_o pope_n do_v always_o keep_v the_o same_o rule_n in_o god_n house_n 80_o house_n reply_v pag._n 80_o the_o jesuite_n to_o exempt_v the_o bishop_n of_o 〈◊〉_d from_o be_v a_o disturber_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n will_v prove_v it_o from_o the_o experience_n of_o his_o peaceable_a government_n before_o luther_n time_n but_o he_o may_v know_v that_o there_o have_v be_v no_o peace_n at_o all_o that_o we_o may_v call_v the_o peace_n of_o god_n where_o he_o have_v bear_v any_o control_n for_o be_v it_o probable_a that_o peace_n shall_v proceed_v from_o he_o that_o be_v always_o or_o the_o most_o part_n at_o war_n how_o many_o schism_n be_v there_o in_o the_o roman_a see_n numerantur_fw-la see_n stapleton_n doctr._fw-la princip_n l._n 23._o c._n 15._o schismata_fw-la rom._n pontiâ—icum_fw-la viginti_fw-la numerantur_fw-la if_o they_o can_v not_o agree_v upon_o their_o peacemaker_n must_v they_o not_o be_v at_o war_n themselves_o have_v it_o not_o be_v the_o best_a course_n in_o those_o time_n to_o bring_v peace_n to_o the_o church_n for_o to_o have_v exclude_v they_o altogether_o from_o government_n but_o if_o 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