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A36721 An historical dissertation upon the Thebean Legion plainly proving it to be fabulous / by John Dubourdieu ...; Dissertation historique et critique sur le martyre de la légion thébéenne. English Dubourdieu, Jean, 1652-1720. 1696 (1696) Wing D2409; ESTC R17246 111,591 210

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