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A09287 Rhemes against Rome: or, The remoouing of the gagg of the new Gospell, and rightly placing it in the mouthes of the Romists, by the Rhemists in their English translation of the Scriptures. Which counter-gagg is heere fitted by the industrious hand of Richard Bernard ... Bernard, Richard, 1568-1641. 1626 (1626) STC 1960; ESTC S101681 240,340 338

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come to them and blesse them Chap. 20. 24. to be high aboue all Nations to praise name and honour to be a holy people Deut. 26. 19. to circumcise their heart and the heart of their seed to loue him with all their heart and soule Deut. 30. 6. to be with them not to leaue them nor forsake them Deut. 31. 8. yea he promised that no new god should be among Psal 81. 9. them nor they to adore a strange god Psal 80. 10. Mount Sion was not to be remoued but to abide for euer and peace to be on Israel Psal 105. 1. whom he would redeeme from all Psal 1●● 1. Psal 13● 8. Psal 132. 13 14 iniquities Psal 129. 8. He chose Sion and that to be his rest for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Psal 13● 13 14. their way was to be the way of Holinesse and so direct that fooles should not erre by it Esay 35. 8. and such as erred in the Spirit should know vnderstanding the mutterer should learne the Law Esa 29 24. and they should haue Pastors according to the Lords owne heart which should feed them with knowledge and doctrine Ier. 3. 15. To conclude Israel had a promise to be saued with eternall saluation they should not be confounded and ashamed for euer and euer Esay 45. 17. yea that we may know that the promises were not to the people then liuing onely the Lord saith I will powre out my Spirit vpon their seede and my blessing vpon thy stocke Esay 44. 3. and touching the Temple thus saith God to Salomon I haue sanctified this House to put my Name there for euer and mine eyes and my heart shall be there 1. King 9. 3. alwayes 3. Kin. 9. 3. Yet for all these so gracious promises she erred she hath fallen away and remaineth in her sinnes We haue heard out of their owne Bible First how the Churches defection hath beene foretold Secondly how she also hath beene found guiltie Thirdly the same proued by Historie of the Bible from the beginning in Adam and Eue till Christ though the Church of Israel had admirable meanes to vphold it to which I do adde this last From Christs comming till Iohns being in Pathmos In this space we may finde errours in the Church The Apostles themselues before Christs Ascension were in an error touching Christ his Kingdome dreaming of a temporall kingdome Act. 1. 6. Luk. 24. 21. of restoring the kingdome to Israel and redeeming them so as they did striue among themselues which of them should be greatest Luk 22. 24. and hereupon it was that the mother of Zebedees children desired of him for her sonnes that one might sit in his Kingdome on the right hand and the other on the left Mat. 20. 20 21. Their knowledge was very imperfect for it is said often that they vnderstood not many things Mat 15. 16. Luk. 9. 45. and 10. 34. Ioh. 12. 16. and 29. yea so slow of heart and dull of hearing they were that Christ telleth them that he had many things to say to them but that then they were not able to beare thē Ioh. 16. 12. their faith was verie weake as appeareth by his calling of them Ye of little faith Mat. 8. 26 and 16. 8. Slow of heart to beleeue what the Prophets had spoken Luk. 24. 25. Also by their forsaking him and flying from him when he was taken Mat. 26 56. After Christs Ascension and the comming downe of the holy Ghost they were ignorant for a time in this that they did not thinke it was lawfull to go to the Gentiles as we may see in Peter Act. 10 15. 20. and the other Iewes vers 45. compared with Cap. 11. 2 3 18 19. The Churches of Galatia erred so as S. Paul said that he feared lest hee had laboured in vaine Gal. 4. 11. I neede not here speake of errors and Heresies creeping in troubling the Church and deceiuing many as in Act. 15. 2. 1. Tim 1. 3 6 7 19. 20. 2. Tim 2. 18 19. 1. Cor. 15. 12. Ephesus fell from her first loue Reu. 2. 4 Pergamus had in her such as vpheld the doctrine of Balaam and of the Nicolaitans Reu. 2 14. Thyatira tolerated Iezabel to reach and seduce Christs seruants Reu. 2. 20. Sardis was an hypocriticall Church and in a dying condition and Laodicea luke-warme rich in conceit but miserable naked blinde and poore in condition Reu. 3. 2 16 17. S. Paul telleth Timothy that all that were in Asia were departed from him 2. Tim. 1. 15. Thus was the Churches state euen in the Apostles dayes By which we may see the Church subiect to erre and to hold the contrary that she cannot erre Antiquitie is against Contraried by Antiquitie Origen Hom. 6. in Ezek. The Citie of God as long as she erreth not or doth not sinne hath God to her Father but when she beginneth to erre her father is an Amorite and her mother an Hittite he then thought she might erre Ierome complaineth in Dialog aduers Lucifer That the whole world groaned and wondered to see it selfe Arian Did not he thinke then that the Church might erre Aug. lib. 2. cap 18. Retract speaking of the Church on earth saith that by reason of ignorance and infirmities of her members the whole Church hath cause to say euery day Forgiue vs our trespasses Basil epist 70. telleth vs that Satan had in his time begun to sow the seedes of Apostasie in those places where the Gospell of the Kingdome first arose vp striuing to spread it into the whole World He speakes of Apostasie which is more then erring What meant Hilarie cont Auxentium when he said The Church is lost and wee are fallen into the time of Antichrist whose ministers do transforme themselues into Angels of light without all feeling or conscience of Christ Vincent Lvren aduers profan Nou. ca. 4. hath said that not only some portion of the Church but the whole Church it selfe is blotted with some new contagion Gainesaid by some of their owne Pope Innocent saith in the Canon Law The Churches Iudgement Decret Greg. li. 3. de sent excom ca. 28. A nobis est saepe Super 5. de sent excom Anobis 2. oftentimes followeth opinion which many times falleth out both to deceiue vs and to be deceiued it selfe Panormitan thus writeth A generall Councell representing the whole Church may erre in excommunicating him that should not bee excommunicate If in a matter of this nature where proofes may bee brought before sentence pronounced how much more in points of a higher nature without the Scripture for the guide A generall Councell is called the whole Church representadue If therfore this erre thē may the Church erre for how can the Churches voyce else be heard except in Can. 6. the Scriptures But by their owne confession generall Councels haue erred for the first Councell at Nice of 318. Bishops made the Bishop of Romes gouernment no more then that of Alexandria That at Ephesus of 200.
sinned ver 33. and he exempteth none of either Iewes or Greekes neither there or any where else saue Iesus Christ onely Heb. 4. 15. She teacheth that they are iust fied by workes and that before God He contrarily Rom. 3. 24. We are iustified gratis by grace for we account a man to be iustified by faith without the workes of the Law vers 28. For if Abraham were iustified by works he hath to glory but not with God Rom. 4. 2. She teacheth that concupiscence in the regenerate is not sinne He contrary calleth it sinne Rom. 7. 7. She teacheth that a man may perfectly fulfill the Law and do workes of supererogation He teacheth the contrary and that out of himself Ro. 7 15 16 18 25. agreeing with our Sauiours teaching Luk. 17. 10. She teacheth that the sufferings of the Saints here are worthy of eternall glory He teacheth that the passions of this time are not condigne of glorie to come Rom. 8. 18. 2. Cor. 4. 17. She teacheth that the Church cannot erre S. Paul sheweth the contrary in Rom. 11. 19 20 21. by example of the Israelites and doth forewarne the Romanes to take heed that God do not cast them off She teacheth that the Pope and his Clergie is not subiect to Ciuill Authoritie He teacheth the contrary not exempting any Rom. 13. 1 3 4 6. with Tit. 3. 1. She teacheth that holinesse is to be put in the obseruation of daies and difference of meates He maketh this as a thing indifferent and teacheth that none are to contend about such things and that the kingdome of God stands not herein Rom. 14. 1 2 5 17. She teacheth that it is not profitable for all to reade the Scriptures He teacheth that it was written for the vse and comfort of all Rom. 4. 23. 15. 4. She teacheth to pray to Saints Angels and to the Virgin Marie and to giue them praises for many things He teacheth to pray to God Rom. 15. 30. and so prayeth he Rom. 15. 5 13 33. and 16. 27. to none other prayeth he nor giueth prayses but to God for his mercies Thus we see them to be at odds with the Apostle by the witnesse of their owne Bible laid to their doctrines The like might be shewed out of the Epistles of Saint Peter whom the Popes claime for their Rocke and therefore their Church not onely may and doth erre And to make yet this more cleare we will view them first in their virtuall Church and then in their Church representatiue The creame or quintessence of their Church as it is reduced to an Elixir by the Refiners and Alchymists the Iesuites is squeczed into a little roome and comprized in the Pope whom they call the Virtuall Church Of his Holyhood they auouch XIV Proposition That the Bishop of Rome cannot erre Confuted by their owne Bible IT giueth vs to know that Peter whom forsooth they doe make the first Pope of Rome did erre first in mistaking Christs Kingdome as terrene and earthly Act. 1. 6. Secondly concerning the person of Eliah that he should come before the Messiah mis-vnderstanding Malachi Mat. 17. 10. Thirdly touching the resurrection of Christ Luke 18. 34. Iohn 20. 9. Fourthly in hauing conscience of the difference of meates after Christs Ascension Acts 10. 14. Fifthly in not vnderstanding his full Commission to goe to the Gentiles Act. 10. 20. Sixthly in not walking rightly to the veritie of the Gospell Gal. 2. 14. If then this first Pope as they make him did so erre then the after-Popes may except they can shew some priuiledge before him Contraried by Antiquitie For it is manifest by History that the Popes iudgement was not held to be infallible but that he might erre 1. For we may find such to haue been made Popes as may easily perswade any wise man that they might erre Some haue Alphonsus de Castro haeres li. 4. ca. 4. Platina in Iul. 1. * See Master Alex. Cooke his booke of this which no Papist hath vndertaken to answere See such Authors as haue set out the Popes liues Platina and other bin vnlettered Idiots no Grammarians that could hardly write their names in Latine some Lay-men as Constantius the second and Bennet the eighth and once a woman Pope * Ioane and very boyes for age Bennet the ninth a child of ten yeeres old Iohn the twelfth a bastard a mad Lad about eighteene yeeres old Could not these yonkerrene thinke you 2. Some haue been most abominable persons Atheists blasphemers poysoners sorcerers and such like Is it like that Gods holy Spirit would reside in such filthy monsters to keepe them forsooth from erring 3. Some of them fell fearefully Marcellinus worshipped Heathen Idols Zepherinus was a Montanist Liberius and Felix Arians Anastasius the second an Acatian Vigilius an Eutychian and Honorius a Monothelite And cannot yet Popes erre 4. Some Popes haue abrogated the Decrees one of another Benno Platina Supplementum Chronic. Gregorie the first abolished the Decrees of Pelagius so Sabinian and Innocent those of Gregorie Steuen abolished those of Formosus so Romanus those of Steuen and so forth And cannot yet Popes erre 5. Some haue decreed flat against Scripture Celestine ordained Alphons li. 1. ca. 4. de haeres Trent Conc. sect 8. can 3. sub Pio 4. Marriage to be void when either party fell into heresie Pius Quartus decreed that it should be lawfull for him to allow degrees of Marriage forbidden in Leuiticus and to forbid what God allowed And cannot Popes erre 6. Easterne Bishops and ancient Fathers haue very sharpely Euseb li. 5. c. 26. reproued the Bishop of Rome as namely Polycrates the Bishop of Ephesus and as Ireneus the Bish of Lions did Victor for his rash proceeding against the Easterne Church And yet doe not Popes erre 7. Ancient Councels haue withstood him as that of Chalcedon Acts 16. wherein were 630. Bishops withstanding Leo in the question of supremacy The sixth Councell of Carthage of 217. Can. 105. Bishops resisted three Popes one after another in that they would do contrary to the Councell of Nice These iudged that Popes might erre else would they haue yeelded to the Popes Gainesaid by Papists themselues 1. Pope Andrian the sixth de sacr confir ar 3. ad 2. pag. 55. saith It is certaine that the Pope may erre So iudged Innocentius Arbor Theosoph li. 4. ca. 32. De potestat Ecclesiae consid 10. 11. De signis Ecclesiae li. 18. ca. 6. the fourth So also haue learned men formerly held as Gerson of which opinion are the Sorbonists who hold that the Pope might erre Bosius dares to write that the Pope may be an heretike writing teaching and preaching heresies Stapleton confesseth it to be no matter of Faith but of opinion Controuers 3. qu. 4. onely because so many famous and renowned Diuines haue euer held the contrary as Gerson Almaine Occam almost all the Parisians Durandus whereto may bee added Waldensis Turrecremata
the Church at Colosse Col. 1. 4 6. for their stedfast faith loue and fruit of the Gospell and for their order which the Apostle ioyed to behold cha 2. 5. What shal I speak of the praises of the 1. Thes 1. 3 6. 2. 13 14. 3. 6. 4. 10. 2. Thes 1. 3 4. 2. 13. Thessalonians for their worke of Faith growing exceedingly their labour of loue their patience of hope their abounding in charitie being followers of the Apostles and the Churches of God in Iury receiuing the Word of God as the Word of God in much tribulation with ioy of the holy Ghost To which prayses the beleeuers at Rome did not then attaine though they had their prayses and those great too Rom. 15. 14. but not comparable with those Churches Lastly in shewing how the Apostles honoured some other Churches by their writings As Corinth by two Epistles so Ephesus by one from Saint Paul by another from Saint Iohn Reuel 2. 1. who wrote to that Church in the first place the heauenly booke of the Reuelation in like sort were two written to the Thessalonians and but one to Rome 5. It is cleare by their own Bible that Peter whō they claime falsely for their first Pope wrote two Epistles which are called Catholike but neither of them was written to Rome as the Catholike Church neither maketh he any mention of it And S. Paul writeth to the Saints at Rome as to a particular company and not as any Head-Church before and aboue other The Thessalonians are commended for being followers of the Churches of God in Iudea but not for following those at Rome to whom when Saint Paul wrote hee saith Rom. 1. 6. that they were called among others that in other Nations were called but it is not said aboue other Nations 6. Their Bible telleth vs that S. Paul wrote his Epistle to them that were in Rome called Saints and beloued of God so that they were within that City or there-about but the Catholike Church was then dispersed for the Gospell at that time had gone into all the World and was preached to euery creature vnder Heauen Col. 1. 6 23. In their Bible is mention Acts 2. made of thirtie Kingdomes and Countries ten Ilands and almost three score famous Cities out of Iury in and amongst the Gentiles where the Gospell had been preached among whom Rome was but one and had obteined at the most praises common with other Churches Their titles were Saints Rom. 1. 7. beloued of God also brethren Rom. 10. 1. and 12. 1. and 15. 14 30. Their faith the same that was among all Nations Rom. 1. 5. called the common Faith vers 12. and therefore spoken of throughout the whole World vers 8. Their obedience was published to euery place Rom. 16. 19. Not for that their Faith and obedience did surpasse others for the words are deliuered barely your faith your obedience not with prayses as the Faith and obedience of the Colossians and Thessalonians accompanied with loue and aboundant charity with patience and ioy of the holy Ghost in great afflictions and so forth but for that Rome was the sease of the Empire and the publishing of their faith and obedience might bee a meanes to draw on others which dwelt in other places Contraried by Antiquitie We may reade that the chiefe of the Church of Rome was but at first a Bishop and his Church but a Drocesan Church Then hee became an Archbishop and so his Church but a Prouinciall Church After he got to be a Patriarch and so his Church but Patriarchall as some other were then equall with him as that of Antioch Alexandria Ierusalem and Constantinople All this time he was no Vniuersall Bishop till bloody Phocas gaue him that title and so his Church not Vniuersall till she also became the great whore and so might well be common the kings of the earth committing fornication with her as was foretold Reuel 17. It is said that Athanasius as Liberius confesseth was separated Epist ad Vrsac Valent. in Baron Annal. to 3. Ann. 357. n● 44. from the communion of the Church of Rome But may we iudge so holy a man and so valiant a Champion for the truth to be therefore separated from the Catholicke Church Polycrates and the Easterne Churches did not condiscend to the Church of Rome in the keeping of Easter did they therefore dissent from the Catholicke Church who was he in those dayes that had so much as a dreame thereof S. Ierome in Catal. Fortunat. reproueth the custome of the Church of Rome and Epist ad Euagr. he preferreth the custome of the Catholicke Church he held not Rome then the Catholicke Church but distinguisheth them asunder one from another The title of Catholicke was long before it came to be added to the Church and when it was vsed many Churches were so called The Romane Church then was not the Catholicke Church Gainesayd by some of their owne Aeneas Syluius who was Pope writeth That before the Epist 30 1. Councell of Nice small respect was had to the Church of Rome Now it cannot be imagined that all the time before the learned Fathers and holy Martyrs should be said to haue had small respect to the Catholicke Church the mother of euery particular Church because they had small respect to the Church of Rome If Aeneas Syluius saith true then was not Rome held the Catholike Church of those who so smally respected her Pighius lib. 6. ca. 3. de Eccl. Hierarch saith Who did euer yet by the Church of Rome vnderstand the Vniuersall Church He then at that time had not learned this point to hold the Church of Rome for the Catholicke Church Francisc Picus Theorem 13. saith The Church of Rome is a particular Church The obiected Scriptures answered Psal 2. 8. Aske of me and I will giue thee the heathen for thine inheritance c. Luk. 1 33 He shall reigne ouer the house of Iacob for euer and of his kingdome there shall be no end Answ Who is read in Scripture but knoweth these to be spoken of Christs Kingdome and not of the Popes iurisdiction Where is here Pope or Rome expressed But the Gagger proueth hereby the Church of Christ Catholicke which we acknowledge But saith he None of these promises haue beene so much verified as they haue beene in the Church of Rome and therefore is she onely the Catholicke Church In that he saith Not so much verified as of Rome he grants it to haue beene verified of other Churches though not so much he cannot therefore from a higher degree conclude that she is onely the Church whereof the promises are made The words are spoken of Christs Kingdom in plain termes expressed And is his Kingdome now become the Romish Iurisdiction onely His Kingdome after he assumed our nature began before the Church of Rome had a being And can any thinke that Dauid in the Psalme or the Angell speaking the words
wood are called idols and diuels But they worship the workes of their hands made of such things and therefore worship idols and diuels Thus God condemneth Imagerie for idols and diuels And this very place may fitly be vnderstood of Papists For first these idolaters here spoken of are such as fall out to bee vnder the sixt trumpet long after the destruction of the Heathen idolaters 2. They are such as be after the Starre is fallen chap. 9. 1. and become a King of the Locusts But what Clergie man since Christ euer wore a Crowne but the Pope 3. They are such as those great Armies verse 16. were raised vp to plague for their idolatry But what can these be but Turkes the scourge of Popish idolaters idolatrous Christians 4. They are such as ouer-ranne the true Religion so as Christ sends out his Word to recouer his from vnder this idolatrie and from among them chap. 10. 11. But who haue spred their idols ouer the Church Not Iewes nor Turkes but Papists And hath not Christ sent out his Word to regaine his from among them 5. And lastly the words chap. 9. 20 21. doe set out Papists 1. They repented not of the works of their hands whē they saw the Easteme Churches ouerthrowne by the Turkes for their idolatrie after the second Nicene Councell there establishing it 2. These committed Murthers Sorceries Fornication and Thefts And doe not all know how these raigne among Papists For murders their massacres of Christians and vnheard of cruelties vpon poore Indians many millions witnesse them For Sorceries is not spirituall Babylon that is Rome full thereof chap. 18. 23 Rome now is that Whore drunke with bloud chap. 17. which deceiued the Nations by her Sorceries chap. 18. 23. For her Fornication she is called the Mother of whoredomes chap. 17. And doe not her Stewes witnesse it What shall I speake how vnder colour of vowed pouertie by Dispensations Pardons Indulgences shee robbed euery Kingdome Therefore these are Papists worshipping idols and diuels and cannot so well bee applyed to any other vnder heauen all the former circumstances seriously and throughly weighed See B. Carleton his Booke of Thanksgiuing how he presseth this text vpon Papists Contraried by Antiquitie Tertul. de idolat God hath forbidden both the making and worshipping of an Idol Now by Idol he meaneth euery forme or representation as himselfe there saith and that the consecration of Images is Idolatry Epiphanius The superstition of Images is vnfit for the Church of Christ He seeing an Image in a Church tare it in sunder hee also exhotred to bring no Images into the Churches as an horrible wickednesse yea though it were the Picture of Christ himselfe Lactantius saith Out of doubt there is no Religion where there is an Image Gregory the Bishop of Neocaesaria saith Concil Nicen. 2. Act. 6. that Heathenisme was the first deuiser and head of Images Enseb l. 7. c. 17. calleth it an heathenish custome Origen against Celsus Common sense doth will men to thinke that God is not delighted with honour of Images made by men And of his owne time hee saith thus We worship no Images In Saint Austins time it is cleere by that which hee writeth on Psal 113. that there were no Images in Churches The Councell at Eliberis or Granada in Spaine decreed that nothing which is honoured of the people should be painted in the Churches The first and sixth Constantinopolitan Councell held against Images that it was not lawfull either to haue the Images of Saints or to worship them And if any from that time durst make or adore them in the Church or at home if of the Clergie he was to be deposed if of the Laity accursed The generall Councell by the Commandement of the Apostolike See at Franckford vnder Charles the great where the Popes Legates were condemned the worship of Images Abb. Vsperg Anno 793. Rhegino Anno 794. Opus illustr Caroli Mag. contra Synod p. 486. l. 4. c. 2. See Alan Cope dial 4. cap. 18. The Ancient Christians of the Primitiue Church had none Clem. Alexand. hort ad Gent. pag. 14. Minutius Foelix Octau Atheuag Legat. Athanasius against the Gentiles saith If a liuing man cannot teach thee to know God how can a carued stocke and a stone doe it that is dead Gregory Bishop of Rome lib 7. Epist 109. commends the zeale of Serenus a Bishop in France who would haue nothing made with hands worshipped and therefore brake the Images which act though Gregorie commended not yet hee would haue him keepe the people from the worship of them The Bishop of Orleance Ionas lib. 1. de cultis Imag. professed his detestation against the worship of Images and held the doers worthy to be cursed Bishop Durandin Rational lib. 1. cap. 3. and Catharin tract de cult Imag. thinke their vse to be dangerous Gainesaid by themselues Polydor. Virgil lib. 6. cap. 13. de inuent rerum writeth that by the testimonie of Ierome it appeareth how in a manner all the ancient holy Fathers condemned the worship of Images for feare of idolatry Erasmus in Catechis saith that by the testimonie of sound and approued Stories it is cleere that till Ieromes time such as were of sound Religion would endure no image either painted or grauen to be set vp in the Churches no not the image of Christ himselfe Holcot in lib. Sap. lect 7. saith that no adoration is due to any Image and that it is not lawfull to adore any Image Agobardus B. of Lyons who liued in Anno 815. saith in Bibl. Paetrum Whosoeuer worshippeth a Picture molten or grauen Statue worships an Idol not God nor Saint nor Angel See Roger Houeden part 1. Annal. fol. 272. where he sheweth how the Church of God detested the Decree of the 2. Nicene about worship of Images Aquinas Hales Albertus Bonauenture Marsilius and nine more cited by D. White in his last Booke pag. 209. doe hold that Adoration of Images was prohibited the Iewes Then such places as bee alledged for Images in the Old Testament by our moderne Papists are but abused Bannes in Tho. 229. par 10. pag. 170. saith that the worship of the Images of Saints is neither expressely nor vnfoldedly taught in holy Scriptures All Scriptures therefore alledged are but abusiuely alledged to beguile the simple Scriptures obiected answered 1. For making Images to be worshipped Exo. 25. 18. And thou shalt make two Cherubims c. Ans This is no warrant now for vs. For we haue a perpetuall law forbidding the making of Images likenesses Exod. 20. to worship them Leu. 26. 1. This binds vs for euer But God is not bound he makes a Law for vs not to himselfe And this commandement which he gaue was extraordinarie for a time and therefore not imitable of vs no more then his command to Abraham to kill his sonne or to Israel to rob the Egyptians are to be warrants for vs to kill or rob any 2. This was not done
his Resurrection Ioh. 20. 21. as some euen of Papists affirme Thirdly if because they onely were present at the institution they therefore should onely receiue in both kinds then what warrant haue they to admit any but Priests to the Lords Supper What warrant to admit women to it so much as to receiue the bread Yea why are any Lay-men admitted to the bread or to the Sacrament at all for no Lay persons did receiue with the Apostles no not Christs Mother Fourthly touching the 1. Cor. 10. 16. there is vnder the word we meant the Apostles and other Ministers of the Word and Sacraments that they blessed and brake that is consecrated and administred the Lords Supper vnto other to wit the Laitie For in verse 21. he plainly sheweth how the Corinthians did drinke of the Chalice and did partake of the Table of the Lord though they could not receiue worthily so doing if they went vnto the Idol Temples Thus are they confuted by their owne Bible Contraried by Antiquitie Ignatius in Epist 6. ad Philadelp giueth vs to vnderstand that in his time the Cup was diuided to the whole Church Iustin Martyr Apol. 2. telleth vs that it was the manner of the whole Congregation to receiue both the Bread and Wine The first Councell of Nice speaking of the holy Table mentioneth both the Bread and Cup. Theophyl on 1. Cor. 11. saith that the Cup was in like manner deliuered vnto all See more for this Athanasius 2. Apolog. Chrysostome Hom. 27. in 1. Cor. and Ambrose in 1. Cor. 11. Cyprian in 2. Epist ad Cornelium in Epist 63. 54. Cyril Catech. mystag 5. Augustine in Ioh. tract 27. Tertul. deresurrect Clem. Alexand. 2. pedagog cap. 2. See Doctor White his last Booke pag. 482. citing Iust Martyr Chrysost Haymo Answ to Fisher Gainesaid by themselues Gelasius the Pope decret part 3. dist 2. ca. comperimus calleth it a fond superstition to abstaine from the Cup and satih that such a diuision cannot bee done without great sacriledge Alex. Hales 4. q. Art 2. saith that whole Christ is not contained vnder each kinde by way of Sacrament but onely his flesh vnder forme of Bread and his bloud vnder the forme of Wine and that there is more power of grace in Communion in both kinds then in one q. 11. in 2. Art 4 5 3. Lorichius lib. 5. Hospinian calleth them false Catholikes which hinder reformation of this point The Church of Rome for aboue a thousand yeeres after Christ vsed both the kinds in administring this Sacrament See this at large proued by Master Perkins in his demonstratiue of the Probleme out of Papists themselues To which adde the opinion in this point of receiuing in both kinds Lyra in 1. Cor. 11. Durand in national lib. 4. also Greg. de Valentia de legit vsu Enchar cap. 10. who confesseth that the custome began not much before the Councell of Constance Caietan 3. part Thom. q. 80. Art 12. q. 3. Ouand 4. p. 221. See Doctor White pag. 497. Fisher the Iesuite acknowledgeth the Lay people in the Primitiue Church to haue frequently receiued in both kinds Scriptures obiected answered Ioh. 6. 51. If any man eate of this bread he shall liue for euer and the bread which I will giue him is my flesh Answ 1. This is not spoken of the Sacrament For first Christ So hold many Papists Doctor White pag 495 had not as yet instituted it Secondly he speaketh of spirituall bread then present I am the liuing Bread in the former part of the verse to which the relation is in these words here This bread to wit himselfe the liuing Bread I am the bread of life saith he verse 48. The Sacramentall bread was not as yet when thus he spake Thirdly the bread here was that which when he spake came downe from heauen verse 50. 58. But the bread which Christ administred at his last Supper neuer came from heauen Fourthly this bread whoso eateth maketh him that eateth it to liue for euer but so doth not the Sacramental bread which may be eaten by the wicked Fiftly he himselfe expoundeth what he meaneth by this Bread euen his owne flesh which he giueth for the life of the world and which he did giue vpon the Crosse But the Sacramentall bread is not his owne flesh As for that errour of transubstantiation the vanitie of it shall be confuted in the next question Sixtly if this bee spoken of the Sacrament then all that receiue it not haue no life in them verse 53. as Infants and other before they come to ripe age which they will not affirme And yet will it vndeniably follow if this be properly meant of the Sacrament II. If it were granted that Christ spake here of the Sacrament which hee would institute yet this place helpeth not our Aduersaries but rather maketh hue and cry after their the euery for presuming to rob the people of the Cup. For first in vers 53. Christ plainely saith Vnlesse yee eate the flesh of the Sonne of man and drinke his bloud you shall not haue life in you And in verse 54. he saith He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my bloud hath euerlasting life So he bindeth life to both and secludeth life from such as receiue not both Secondly therefore both being so necessarie it followeth that when he onely mentioneth the eating of bread there is a figure one part for both Else should the diuine Oracles of our Sauiour thwart one the other in pressing both eating and drinking affirmatiuely to the obtaining of life in receiuing both and negatiuely to losse of life in not receiuing both Thirdly Christ goeth about to declare himselfe to be sufficient food for the life of his which beleeue in him Now a man cannot liue by onely eating nor onely drinking but by both Therefore saith he My flesh is meat indeed and my bloud is drinke indeed verse 55. He saith not that his flesh is both meate and drinke He knew that his body had flesh and bloud yet he willeth to eate and drinke Now the flesh is to be eaten and the bloud to be drunke In eating his flesh wee cannot be said to drinke his bloud For that which is to be eaten cannot bee said to bee drunken too these being two distinct and differing actions for two things If one would haue serued the vrging of two had beene needlesse Fourthly and lastly hee mentioneth Bread not to exclude Wine and eating not to exclude drinking but because hee had spoken of Manna the Israelites bread in the Wildernesse and so called himselfe Bread keeping the subiect and occasion of which hee had begun to speake So in Ioh. 4. speaking with the Woman of Samaria occasioned by the drawing of water out of the Well hee promiseth to giue her water to drinke Would any therefore hence conclude that onely water were sufficient and no need of eating bread As we cannot conclude so from the one no more can we from the
keepe and attend sheepe in the Countrey my furniture is rather the Crooke and Scripp then the Sword or Sling Yet if wilde beasts range and rauage among our flocks we are awaked to stretch forth our hands and rescue our Lambs And well may wee answer with Dauid Thy seruant kept his fathers 1. Sam. 17. 34. She●pe and there came a Lyon and likewise a Beare and tooke a Sheepe out of the Flocke and I went out after him and smote him and tooke it out of his mouth Plaine Shepheardly Dauid had he trusted in his owne strength and not rather in the goodnesse of his cause being Gods quarrell might easily haue been discouraged not onely by the braues and threats of the Philistine but much more by the checks and snappes of his elder brother Eliab who perhaps being better furnished with abilities both for warre and for Court thought to frowne his rurall brother out of the field But God is pleased to aduance his truth and cause the rather by plaine and weake meanes For my part nothing hath moued me to this encounter but the zeale of Gods truth and desire to instruct the meaner sort and establish our lesse learned Christian brethren As for curiosities and subtill contemplations I leaue them vnto others or rather to be left of all others so farre as they tend to engendring of strife among our selues and preiudice to our Church And accordingly in pressing the passages of Scripture and vindicating the same from violent and absurd interpretations I haue laboured to deliuer the plaine true and natiue exposition arising out of the literall sense and naturall context together with the circumstances thereof Which manner of interpretation as most sound and solid hath in all ages and will find approbation with the iudicious As for the stile and words of Scriptures I desire as this aduersarie dealt with vs by way of repercussion so to repay him in coine of his owne stampe and therefore I still pleade out of their owne vulgar English Translation of the whole Bible written and perfited by the Seminary Priests at Rhemes as appeareth by the first words of their Preface to the New Testament printed there Though the other part thereof being the old Testament was afterward printed at Doway and thereupon is commonly called the Doway Bible The Rhemists Priests for making any Translation at all of the Bible into the English tongue though out of the vulgar Latine though obscured by affected phrases and distorted by their corrupt Annotations yet are said to haue bin beshrewed by their owne more subtile Masters and Superiours as hauing thereby layed open to the people the nakednesse and deformitie of their Romish doctrines And therefore haue I the more willingly produced the same against themselues the power and lustre of Gods Word though clouded and disguised by their purposed obscuritie and improprieties yet competently shining forth for their conuiction by this vnwilling wounding of Rome by the out-workes of Rhemes Vnto the places cited out of their Bible I haue added not onely sutably to the Gaggers proofes the testimonies of diuers ancient Fathers and Doctours of the Church but also for ouer-measure the consent of diuers moderne Writers very passable and laudable in the Romish Church Lastly in handling this Popish Gagg varyed and furbished in diuers Editions I thought it not worth the while to goe thorow euery particular question some being friuolous or of small moment or weake and naked enough of themselues but haue rather chosen to insist vpon those which are most pertinent and weightie The discussing whereof might tend to seasonable edification The iudgement of which my poore labours I humbly submit to our Reuerend and blessed Mother the Church of England And so Christian Reader I commit my endeuours to thy charitable acceptation and withall desire to haue my part in thy deuout and brotherly prayers resting Thine in the Lord R. B. The Contents of this Counter-Gagg Three Principles premised for deciding Controuersies THere is one onely Rule of Faith page 1. 2. This Rule is and euer hath beene the Word of God p. 3. 3. This Word of God is now no where to be found but onely in the Holy Scriptures p. 6. Principal popish errors refuted in this Counter Gag by expresse Texts of the approued English-Rhemish Bible as also by Testimonies of Antiquity and of their owne Writers 1. That the holy Scriptures are not the only Rule of our Faith and life in all matters necessary to saluation p. 13. 2. That the Scriptures are imperfect insufficient to instruct vs in all things necessary to saluation p. 21. 3. That the Scriptures be obscure and hard to be vnderstood euen in things necessary p. 29. 4. That the Script doe not interpret themselues and that the true sence may not be fetched out of themselues p. 40. 5. That the Scriptures are not to be allowed to be read of the people nor heard by them in a knowne tongue p. 44. 6. That the common liberty for all to reade the Scriptures doth breed heresies p. 50. 7. That the Scriptures cannot of themselues be knowne to be the Word of God vnlesse the Church doe giue witnesse vnto them that they are so p. 53. 8. That Traditions which they call the vnwritten Word are the Rule of Faith p. 60. 9. That the present Churches determination is the absolute vnquestionable Rule of the peoples faith on which they are to rest beleeuing their teachers without farther inquiry p. 70. 10. That the Church is no where in Scripture taken for the Inuisible Church p. 77. 11. That the Church is euer gloriously conspicuous in the world p. 79. 12 That the Church cannot erre p. 88. 13. That the Church of Rome cannot erre p. 106. 14. That the Bishop of Rome cannot erre p. 109. 15. That Councels may not erre being confirmed by the Pope 115. 16. That the Church of Rome is the Catholike Church p. 120. 17. That the Church of Rome hath euer bin in perfect vnity within it selfe p 127. 18. That Saint Peter was Prince of the Apostles and had a primacy of power and authority aboue all the other Apostles p. 130. 19. That Saint Peter was Head of the Church p. 137. 20. That Peter was the onely Vicar of Christ heere vpon earth p. 152. 21. That the publike Seruice of the Church ought not to be in a vulgar and knowne tongue p. 155. 22. That Images are to be in Churches that not only for instruction but also to be adored p. 159. 23. That the Lords Supper is to bee administred to the people in one kind onely p. 170. 24. That these words This is my body are to be taken literally without any figure the Bread being transubstantiate and Christ there corporally the substance of Bread being taken away and Christs true Body in the roome thereof though the accidents of Bread remaine p. 177. 25. That Prayers are to be made to Saints departed and Angels p. 183. Scriptures obiected for
erre in this way hee doth not say The Church or the learned Church men or men in holy Orders for are these fooles but wayfaring men though fooles shall not erre Here is a promise that the simple Laytie shall not mistake their way which Popish Teachers cannot abide to heare of Neither shall any vncleane passe ouer this way but they teach that their Church Catholike consists of elect and reprobate both good and bad cleane and vncleane Therefore in a spirituall sense the words are to be vnderstood of the onely sanctified by Gods Spirit here trauelling in this World as wayfaring men and though esteemed as fooles yet are so guided in their holy profession as they shall not bee suffered to wander out of the way of life neither totally nor finally But he will say If these shall not erre then much lesse shall the Church True who denies it we doe not say that all the whole Church and all the holy that euer haue been such as this place speaketh of haue all erred this thousand yeeres as the Gagger beares his Reader in hand making him beleeue that we so teach Here the Prophet speakes of the Lords redeemed separated from the vncleane in a spirituall estate in and by Christ but in our dispute we speake of the visible Church of cleane and vncleane good and bad and of a mixt company III. This verse and the whole chapter speakes in the first place of the returne from Captiuitie which the Prophet doth expresse in figuratiue speeches to set out the comfort thereof most liuely and so it is nothing to the purpose for which the Gagger brings it In a high sense it sets out the spirituall happinesse of the redeemed by Christ partly here begun and fully to be perfected in the day of the Churches perfect redemption IV. It speakes not here of the Churches teaching but rather of the Saints trauailing towards Heauen But the word not erre made the Gagger thinke he had obtained his purpose and an expresse text for not erring in Doctrine when the words speake of a way a high-way of trauailing men and others not passing ouer it and of the redeemeds walking vers 9. Then being vnderstood of not erring in life it cannot be taken absolutely for error of life is in the best but they erre not to finall destruction Ephes 5. 27. That hee might present it to himselfe a glorious Church not hauing spot or wrinkle or any such thing but that it should be holy and without blemish Answ 1. Our dispute is of the visible Church and mixt company this is to be vnderstood only of the body whereof Christ in the most proper sense is the Head and Sauiour vers 9. which hee nourisheth and cherisheth vers 29. betweene whom and Christ thereis such an vnion as it is called a great Mystery vers 32. which cannot properly be meant of visible Churches consisting not onely of Elect but also of Reprobates who are not clensed nor nourished or cherished as members of his body nor made euer glorious II. The Apostle speakes heere of the Church either as triumphant or if as militant then as it is in preparing and as it shall bee hereafter in Heauen for in this life it is not altogether spotlesse without wrinkle or blemish Cant. 1. 5 6. III. This place doth serue rather to prooue her puritie in life then infallibilitie of iudgement in teaching this latter is hence farre fetched the former may seeme more apparant But will any beleeue that Gods Church for life and conuersation is in this life without spot wrinkle or blemish 1. Tim. 3. 15. The Church of the liuing God the ground and pillar of truth Because this place is much vrged by others and the last of this Gaggers I will more fully make answer vnto it Hence hee would conclude that the Church cannot erre he meaneth the Church of Rome the Pope at least the virtuall Church for they defend not now any Church from errour but their owne But this they can neuer proue out of the place I. Saint Paul wrote to Timothy how he should behaue himselfe in the Church 1. Tim. 3. 14. So his Epistle that is the Apostolicall written Word was made to be Timothies rule to guide him from erring and not the Churches determination S. Paul for all this his praise of the Church sent him not to Her but prescribed him a written Word to direct him in gouerning of her which hee would not haue done if by calling the Church the pillar and ground of truth he had meant she could not haue erred II. Saint Paul speaketh thus of the then present Church of Ephesus where Timothy was chap. 1. 3. built vpon the foundation Ephes 2. 20. and yet she soone left her first Loue Reuel 2. 4. and after fell away III. The word Church comprehendeth all the faithfull together at Ephesus so the Church of Ephesus is taken Reuel 2. 1. But our Aduersaries will not haue the people as the Apostles allowed Act. 15. 22. with their Bishops and Pastors to be the Church and with them to approue of matters of Faith For the Romish Clergie thinke of the people as did the hypocriticall Pharises that they know not the Law and are cursed Ioh. 7. 49. Except they allow the people also with the Teachers to be the pillar and ground of truth this place doth not serue their turne IV. If the word Church bee taken for any other particular Church to which Timothie as an Euangelist might goe after the Apostles planting of them then from hence the Papists cannot conclude that which they would for first they acknowledge that particular Churches may erre Secondly its euident by Scripture in the Churches of Galatia Gal. 1. and 3. 1. and 4. 10 11. by historie and by experience Now the Church of Rome was neuer other then a particular Church in the best spirituall estate thereof Saint Paul writes to it no otherwise then to a particular Church V. If it be taken for the Vniuersall Church this helpes not them For first theirs is not the vniuersall but a particular Church as is proued after in the sixteenth question Secondly it is absurd to reason from that which is not questioned nor can euer assemble together to come to the triall if it were questionable VI. The intituling of the Church to bee the pillar and ground of truth wil not afford the conclusion of not erring and that for these Reasons First because the words are metaphoricall and a similitude must be extended no farther then is in ended Now the Church is called the pillar and ground not because shee cannot erre but first for that she hath the Apostles writings committed to her as were the Oracles of God to the Iewes Rom 3. 2. which Apostles writings are saith Irenous the pillars and supporters of our faith the proofes foundations Li. 3. ca. 1. and the grounds of our cause as Saint * De vnit Eccl. ca. 16. On this 1. Tim. 3.
This power was not giuen alone to Peter but as Peter answered one for all so in Peter he gaue his power to all Pope Leo 1. ser 3. in Aniuers die assump suae ad pontificatum This power of the Keyes passed ouer to all the Apostles Gratian Decrees D. 21. in nouo 24. q. 2. loquitur Saint Peter receiued no more power then the rest of the Apostles Gerson de potest Ecclesiae consid 11. The Keyes were not giuen to one but to vnitie Councell of Basil The Keyes were giuen to the Church and not to Peter Hincmar Archbishop of Rhemes wrote a Booke hereof vnder Charles against another Hincmar Episcopum Laudunensem yea Canonists and those of the chiefest in cap. 1. de renunciat lib. 6. say that the power of binding and loosing in which is found all iurisdiction of the Church proceedeth immediately from Christ and not mediately from Saint Peter Touching Peters Office of feeding Cusanus Concord lib. 2. c. 13. vpon the place of Iohn 21. 15 16 17. as also of Christs charge to goe into all the world and preach saith There is found nothing said to Peter that importeth any power Marsilius Defens Pacis part 2. cap. 28. saith That Christ spake to al the Apostles in Peters person which manner of speaking Christ testifieth himselfe to haue vsed in that hee saith What I say to one I say to all Gregorie lib. 4. Epist 32. denyeth Peter to bee called vniuersall Bishop And it is well knowne how he opposed that title as very Antichristian lib. 4. Epist 34. But if hee had knowne that to Peter the whole Church had beene principally committed that hee had beene the Prince of the Apostles and Pastor of Pastors he would haue allowed of that title as iust and lawfull and not haue condemned it as Antichristian Scriptures obiected answered Mat. 16. 18. Thou art Peter and vpon this Rocke I will build my Church and the gates of Hell c. Answ Here is no expresse word of Headship neither doth this Text by consequence proue it For although Christ speakes to Peter yet he speakes not of Peters person I. The words are a promise touching the Churches safety and nothing of Peters Supremacie II. It speakes of a Rocke on which the Church is builded Now the words are a Metaphor as Bellarmine granteth But a Lib. 1. de PP Rom. cap. 11. Metaphor is to be interpreted according to the nature of the thing of which it is spoken as here of a Rocke as of a foundation which is to vphold that which is built vpon it and not to rule ouer that which is builded thereupon So that from the name of Rocke cannot be concluded Headship and Rule for it is not proper to a foundation in that respect to rule but to support and beare vp III. If Christ here either gaue or promised to giue to Peter the Headship and that before all the rest of his Disciples Why did then afterward Iames and Iohn Mar. 10. 35. and their Mother Math. 20. 2. seeke for the chiefest places aboue the rest Yea and why did the Apostles afterwards striue which of them should be the greatest Luk. 22. 24 And why had not Christ plainely decided this for Peter then and told them of this his speech and meaning in this place towards Peter If Christ had heere intended it surely there he had not forbidden Soueraignty but vpon so sit occasion offered had stablished Headship vpon Peter It is cleare therefore that Christ here meant no such thing IV. If by Rocke be concluded Headship not to vrge the Metaphor against it yet Peter is neuer the nearer his Headship for he is not the Rocke 1. The name Peter giueth it him not For first there Christ names him for more vehement affirming of that which hee The like speech Gen. 41. 44. would vtter for the Churches comfort As if he had said As verily as thou art Peter and so to be called Ioh. 1. 42. Mar. 3. 16. so certainly will I build my Church firmely vpon the Rocke which thou hast made confession of that Hell gates shall not preuaile against it So that Christ cals him not Peter because he should be the Rocke but that vpon the remembrance of his name he might thinke vpon the Churches safe stabilitie as vpon a Rocke against all the powers of darknesse 2. Petros is the interpretation of Cephas Ioh. 1. 42. and therfore he being by Christ who spake Syriak called Cephas as he is sometime so named by S. Paul 1. Cor. 1. 15. most commonly he was called Peter not alluding to Peter in this place of Matthew but for that Cephas was Syriak and Petros Greeke and so was he named Peter because of the generalitie of the Greeke tongue rather then Cephas 3. Petros signifieth in Greeke generally a stone and not a Rocke of foundation And therefore though hee be called Peter yet is he not therefore the Rocke but a Stone in the Lords building a precious stone For the twelue Apostles are twelue foundations Reu. 21. 14. and euery foundation is a precious stone verse 19. 20. And if Peter bee reckoned the first in order he is there a lasper A stone he is and so are all the other Apostles fundamentall stones and likewise are the elect stones too 1. Pet. 2. 5. though not such stones But the chiefe corner stone is Christ 1. Pet. 2. 6. and here in Mathew is hee the Rocke and not Peter Petros is a stone Now the Church is here built on a Rocke not on a stone except on the Corner-stoue and on the twelue precious Stones but not on one stone but vpon one Rocke 4. If Christ by calling him Petros had meant him to be Petra then had Petros bin an appellatiue the same with Rock and not a proper name as here it is vsed For no Demonstratiue goeth before it But if Christ had said Thou art that Petros and vpon that Rock will I build my Church and so made the word appellatiue this Text had been somewhat to the purpose but here is no such Demonstratiue Petros being a proper name 5. He cannot be the Rocke because that Christ cals him Peter for he was Peter before Mar. 3. 16. and is now Peter when Christ called him so for he saith Thou art Peter He was not now at this time the Rocke as Bellarmine doth confesse Lib. 1. cap. 10. 〈◊〉 Rom. PP Therefore it is not his name that makes him the Rocke because here hee is Peter but yet not the Rocke by Bellarmines grant II. These words vpon this Rocke will not make Peter the Rocke 1. The Scripture no where makes man the Rocke of Gods Church Dauid called God his Rocke 2. Sam. 22. 2 32. Psal 18. 2. Saint Paul saith Christ is the Rocke 1. Cor. 10. 4. 2. The word Peter and Rocke in the Originall yea and in their Translation are distinguished in gender and termination yea and in signification as before is noted and the one
thus propounding the question remembers him of as a check to his former conceitednesse seeing his loue appeared lesse then theirs Christ here questions Peters loue hee here in a sort checks his former boasting What of all this Ergo hee is the Head of the Church and Prince of Pastors Logically concluded Fourthly Peters answer was now affirmatiue concerning his loue simply He durst not boast now comparatiuely as before Neither did he answer to the comparison but appealed to Christs knowledge of his loue towards him And therefore at the other two times Christ leaueth out the comparison Which shewes that Peter knew his former folly and now discerned no superioritie of loue in himselfe aboue the rest neither that Christ purposed to commend it aboue the loue of the other and so to preferie him aboue them but to make Peter more humble and better to know himselfe as the whole carriage of the businesse sheweth Fiftly the words Feede my Lambes will not afford Peter any Headship I. In generall this charge was as to re-install him againe into his Apostleship that it might not bee doubted of and that by a threefold command First because of a threefold deniall of Christ by which hee had deserued to lose his Apostleship And secondly for that Christ would haue him very diligently carefull in performing the charge of feeding being thus mercifully admitted into the grace of the Apostleship againe but not aduanced into any higher dignitie and command ouer other Apostles Againe this charge followeth not as a reward of his loue which had formerly so failed but as a true declaration of his loue now againe professed towards Christ For what great expression of loue had it been to Christ for Peter to haue accepted of a Supremacie aboue all the rest which before they had foolishly contended for Luk. 22. 24. II. The word feede maketh not heere for any Headship For first it was a duty of his Office already receiued for an Apostle to feed and not an imposing of a new Dignitie Secondly it is a common charge to all the Apostles Mat. 28. 19. Mar. 16. 15. Yea to other Bishops and Elders Act. 20. 28. 1. Pet. 5. 2. Thirdly the words in the Greeke which Christ vseth here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 are vsed to expresse such feeding as is required of ordinarie Teachers as the former quoted places shew and doe not here imply any supreme Authoritie or extraordinarie kinde of feeding from other of the Apostles Fourthly the word in our English to feede and the Greeke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 words are taken from such as feed beasts of the earth The one is vsed for such as keepe Swine Mat. 8. 34. Mar. 5. 14. but this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 our Aduersaries make no vse of to pearke vp Peters regencie And yet Christ in the Euangelists language vseth this word twice in the first question and in the last verses 15. 17. and the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 other word but once perhaps because of such as are fed that is outwardly called there will bee two Swine or Goats for one true Sheepe This last word is taken from Shepheards feeding their flockes as the word here applyed to Lambes doth shew So in 1. Cor. 9. 7. 1. Pet. 5. 2. This they take great hold on to helpe forward their conceit Because this word is applyed not onely to Teachers as in this place and in Act. 20. 28. 1. Pet. 5. 2. and the word Pastor also taken from Shepheards applyed to Teachers Mat. 9. 36. and 26. 31. but the same is spoken also of Kings Math. 2. 6. Reuel 19. 15. So it is to teach and to beare rule ouer others Therefore they will hence conclude that Peter had heere a Princely Supremacie bestowed vpon him But first the word which is vsed twice both before and after 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doth limit the signification of this which is but once vsed Secondly a word of double signification is to be vnderstood according to the subiect matter spoken of and that signification taken which is fittest to the thing in hand As this word here translated feede spoken of a King is to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 gouerne and rule as a King and not to teach as a Pastor But being spoken of a spirituall Pastor as here it is it cannot bee so meant of ruling as a King but is to be vnderstood of feeding as a spirituall Pastor by Doctrine and life and not of ruling Or if of ruling too yet it is but of such a rule as befitteth a Pastor and not of the Rule which is in a King For our Aduersaries can no more conclude from the double signification of the word that Peter is to teach as an Apostle and Bishop and to rula also as a King the Church then it may bee concluded of a King that he is not onely to rule as a King but also to teach the Church as a Bishop This they will not allow to Kings whom they hold Lay-men and yet the Argument from the double signification is as good for the one as for the other Thirdly our Sauiour Christ tooke on himselfe no such Rule as they would giue vnto Peter to lay it vpon their proud Pope Though the name of Gouernour be giuen to Christ as of rule and power also Mat. 2. 6. and 28. 18. yet he would not be made a King Ioh. 6. 15. though he was a King Ioh. 1. 49. nor would meddle in diuiding the inheritance Luk. 12. nor allow Soueraignty in his Disciples Luke 22. 24 25 26. Must here then a word of double signification bee written aduantageously to lift vp Peter to a new Dignity which Christ neuer allowed of in them nor euer tooke vpon himselfe as the Pope doth As his Father sent him Iohn 20. so sent he not Peter onely but them that is all the rest of the Apostles But that was not to beare rule ouer Nations in outward State as the Pope doth as much as hee can but to teach and preach to all the world this did Christ And his seruants may not thinke to be aboue their Master or to be sent from him otherwise then his Father sent him Fourthly Saint Peter who exhorteth the Elders to feede vseth the same word in 1. Pet. 5. 2. that is here in this Text and yet by and by forbids them to be Lords ouer Gods Heritage If this word had noted any such soueraignty hee would not haue giuen it to Inferiours nor haue immediately forbidden Dominion thereupon if there had beene any such Rule included for that had beene to giue and by and by to take away againe Fiftly the word and Title of Pastor whence the other word 〈◊〉 to feede commeth is the fourth degree vnder an Apostle for Apostles Prophets and Euangelists are before Pastors Now a Pastor or Bishop or Elder is to feede Acts 20. 28. 1. Pet. 5. 2. Therefore here is not imposed a Superioritie vpon Peter but a
Dutie common to other of inferiour ranke This word feede therefore will helpe them nothing for the Supremacie The word my pulleth downe Peter from Soueraignty For first Peters charge is to seed not his owne but Christs sheepe So then Peter is not a Lord but a Seruant-Shepheard to feede the chiefe Shepheards flocke as Peter himselfe calleth Christ who knew no other chiefe Shepheardship either in himselfe or in any other but in Christ 1. Pet. 5. 3. And wee reade how the flocke is called Gods Act. 20. 28. 1. Pet. 5. 2. but no where Peters As also by Christ himselfe wee are taught that there is but one fold and one Shepheard of that fold to wit but one generall Shepheard and that is he himselfe Ioh. 10. 11 14 16. and not Peter and that by Peters owne acknowledgement in the fore-quoted place 1. Pet. 5. 3. The word Lambes or Sheepe considered with the rest of the words and as it is commonly taken wipes away Peters Supremacie For first the words are not spoken vniuersally Feede all my Lambes as if hee had been charged with all of them For this had beene a charge First which hee could neuer haue performed secondly which he neuer did attempt to performe Now God neuer imposed any impossible charge vpon him and Peter would not haue been found faithlesse But it is spoken indefinitely to feed here and there whom he could and where hee could at any time Therefore hee is not here the vniuersall Bishop Secondly Lambes or Sheepe are not Apostles Prophets Euangelists and Pastors These are neuer so called but in relation to Iesus Christ onely Mat. 26. 31. and neuer in reference to any man But if vnder these Lambes and Sheepe bee comprehended all and euery one of the Church and flocke of Christ then by their account all the Apostles and the rest must bee sheepe and Peter their Shepheard and so a Shepheard ouer shepheards Which vaine conceit without proofe who can giue credit vnto And yet Bellarmine makes a difference betweene Lambes and Sheepe The Lambes forsooth must bee the Laitie and the Sheepe the Apostles when as the words are vsed indifferently Math. 10. 16. Luk. 10. 3. Act. 8. 32. And 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Christ though he vse two words yet doth not make any such difference For the two words to feede are applyed also indifferently to either of them So that taking sheepe for the Apostles Peter must not onely rule as they would haue it but also teach the Apostles when Apostles are all immediately from Christ and taught of Christ and by his holy Spirit Galat. 1. 1 12. and needed no instruction from man in the worke of the Ministerie Math. 10. 20. Ioh. 14. 26. and 16. 13. Thus we see there is not the least footing in any word of this Text for Peters Supremacie aboue all other on which yet they settle it But if here Peters Supremacie could bee proued yet what 's this to the Pope He feeds not by preaching Christs Lambes but rules or rather rauages like a roaring Lyon ouer Christs Sheepe hee is like a Lambe but speakes like the Dragon Reuel 13. Lastly that here is no Headship giuen to Peter it appeareth in verse 17. where it is said that vpon Christs third time questioning him he was grieued Now may wee reasonably suppose if Peter had conceiued of Christs words as Popes doe that a Supremacie was therein bestowed vpon him that hee would haue beene grieued Doe men grieue at high preferments offered especially hauing contended for the same as the Apostles had done Who seeth not therefore that Peter perceiued no such glorious preferment nor high Dignitie out of any thing that Christ here spoke as our Aduersaries doe From all this it is cleere that Peter from hence hath no Headship aboue others XX. Proposition That Peter was the onely Vicar of Christ here on Earth Confuted by their owne Bible FOr Vicaradge vnto Christ properly so taken it teacheth vs That Iesus Christ going out of the world promised to substitute in his roome not any Peter nor any man but such a one as could bee euery where with his Church in his bodily absence which was his holy Spirit Ioh. 15. 26. 16. 7. And by this would hee be euer with them Math. 28. 19 20. 18. 20. to remember them of all things Ioh. 14. 26. to guide them Ioh. 16. 13. and to dwell with them Ioh. 14 17. Rom. 8. 9. which a Peter could not doe Secondly it telleth vs that according to this promise when Christ ascended hee sent downe his Spirit Act. 2. by which Gods people are still guided and taught Rom. 8. 1 5 9. 11 14 26. 1. Cor. 2. 10 12. 1. Ioh. 2. 20 27. which beareth witnesse to our spirits that wee are Gods children Rom. 8. 16. Gal. 4. 6. by which wee are sealed to eternall life 2. Cor. 1. 12. Ephes 1. 13. Thirdly it declareth vnto vs that when Christ ascended hee was mindfull of his Church and gaue gifts vnto men Some to Ephes 4. 12. be Apostles some Prophets some Euangelists some Pastors and Teachers but among these no one generall Vicar or Head ouer all If there had beene such a one Paul had as good reason to haue mentioned him as the rest But his Vicar generall was Gods Spirit and no man And note that the Apostle shewes a threefold vse of these afore-named 1. For that they were the consummation of the Saints 2. For the worke of the Ministerie 3. For the edifying of the body of Christ Now if a generall visible Vicar on earth had serued for any of these purposes hee had been giuen of Christ but he needed not and therefore this needlesse gift was not giuen to any As for a supply of Instructers Guides and Lights in the Church Militant wee deny not but Christ hath left many Vicars and doth still send dayly Embassadours to his Church to reconcile vs to God And so our Bishops and other Ministers of the Church by the Keyes of power and knowledge open the way of Heauen to Christian people which they doe in Christs stead and therein are his Vicars or Deputies lawfully called But this Vicaradge is too small a portion for Sir Pope Contraried by Antiquitie Tertul. de violand Virgin The Lord sent the Holy Ghost that mans mediocritie not being capable of all things at one time might by little and little bee directed orderly disposed and brought to perfection by that Vicar his holy Spirit Also in his Booke de praescript hee saith that Christ taken vp into heauen sent the power of his holy Spirit as his Vicar to conduct the faithfull Wee see in these dayes who was held the Vicar of Christ Gainesaid by their owne men Aquinas in Opusc 20. calleth all the Apostles the Vicars of Christ Tolet. in Ioh. 20. 21. saith that Christ instituted his Apostles his Vicars How then was Peter his Vicar for their cannot be a Vicars Vicar If Peter was then the
29. 18. Dauid prayeth to God in that title which hee would be named by and by which he named himselfe Exo. 3. 6. So it is a calling vpon God by his name and not praying to him through the merits of Saints departed Exod. 20. 5. And shewing mercy vnto thousands of them that loue me and keepe my commandement Answ This is no whit for Saints prayer but altogether against merit For the Text saith that to those which loue him and keepe his commandements God will shew mercy If they did merit what need they or mercy The Gagger saith that God will here reward the merits of good men when hee onely saith he will shew mercy and mentioneth no merit Psal 132. 1. Lord remember Dauid c. Answ 1. This Psalme penned by Dauid is a Prayer made by himselfe for himselfe and so nothing to the point of controuersie Secondly if penned by some other after Dauids time here by Dauid is meant Gods promise made vnto Dauid of which the Psalmist maketh mention in verse 11 12 17 18. Esai 63. 17. Returne for thy seruants sake Answ That is for thy Couenants sake made vnto thy seruants So Psal 32. 10. For thy seruant Dauids sake that is for the Couenant and promise sake made vnto Dauid as the Verses 11 12. following shew and not for the merit and intercession of Dauid Also Dauid is here named because hee was an excellent type of Christ who therefore is called by the Name of Dauid Ier. 23. 5. and 30. 9. Ezech. 37. 24. Osea 3. 4. So that if the words be taken for Dauid then there is vnderstood Gods promises the person put for the Couenant made to him but taken for him that Dauid typed out then is it for Christ his sake conceiued in the name Dauid And so the Text proues not prayer made to God to be granted for the merits of Saints XXVI Proposition That Confession commonly called Auricular or Sacramentall is of necessitie THey meane hereby a secret confession onely to the Priest alone of all at least mortall sinnes particularly reciting them with all circumstances thereof as they committed them in thought word and deed and that without this there is no remission of sinne This wee deny to be of necessitie But they affirme it to bee such an ordinance of Christ as not onely hee which doth condemne and contemne it but whosoeuer doth neglect or omit the same when he may haue it cannot be saued Confuted by their owne Bible I. It affordeth no commandement or any example hereof either in the Old Testament or in the New that any should goe to a Priest secretly and make confession after this manner to him Therefore this is no diuine ordinance necessary to Saluation II. Promises of mercy and forgiuenesse are made to the confession of sinnes not mentioning the particular enumeration of them to a Priest 1. Ioh. 1. 9. Prou. 28. 13. Therefore there is pardon without this burthensome ordinance which is maintained so strictly among the Romanists that thereby the Priests may tyrannize ouer the consciences of the poore Lay-Catholiques and further serue their owne turnes for politique ends III. There are examples of such as obtained pardon First by confession onely to God as Dauid himselfe withesseth in Psal 32. 5 6. Secondly by making onely a generall confession Psal 32. 5 6. as Dauid did 2. Sam. 12. 13. This wee see also to be so in the Publicanes confession Luk. 18. 13 14. in Zacheus confession Luk. 19. 8 9. in the Prodigall sons confession Luk. 15. 21. and thirdly by onely hearty contrition without any vocall confession at all as in the example of that Woman which with teares washed Christs feet Luk. 7. 38. Therefore this comming to a Priest and numbring vp sinnes in particular is not absolutely necessarie to obtaine pardon of them Contraried by Antiquitie August Confess lib. 10. cap. 3. What haue I to doe with men that they should heare my confessions as though they were able to heale all my sores Nectarius the Bishop of Constantinople put it downe and Locrat lib. 5. ca. 19. Zozom ● 7. c. 16. Tripart hist l. 9. c. 35. Niceph. lib. 12. cap. 28. all the Bishops in the East and their Churches which they neuer would haue done had it beene the ordinance of God and necessarie for all times and people Chrysostome hom 2. in Psal 50. who was after Nectarius saith I will thee not to confesse thy sinnes to thy fellow-seruant meaning the Priest confesse them vnto God that may heale them And in Hom. 22. ad popul Antiochen saith further This is wonderfull in God that hee not onely forgiueth vs our sinnes but neither doth disclose them nor make them knowne neither doth he enforce vs to come forth and tell them hee requireth no more but that we speak to him alone and to him alone confesse our faults This Father held it then not of necessitie to goe to a Priest For more testimonies see the late and learned booke of Bishop Vsher vpon this point hee citeth Chrysost Austin the Egyptian Abbot Basil Ambrose Maximns Taurinensis Greg. Nyssen Origen Nectarius Clem Alexandrinus Laurence Bishop of Nouaria Theodore an Archbishop of Canterbury Gainsaid by themselues The Canon Law saith de poen D. 5. in poenit Glossa It was taken vp onely by a certaine tradition of the Church and not by any authoritie of either the Old or New Nestament Panormitan super 5. de poen remiss ca. omnes vtriusque saith that hee findeth no manifest authoritie that euer God or Christ commanded vs to confesse our sinnes to a Priest Petrus Oxoniensis the Diuinity Reader at Salamanca taught publikely that it had a beginning from a positiue law of the Church and not from the Law of God Beatus Rhenanus in the Argument of Tertul. de poenit that Caranza in Sixto 4 Ouand 4. d. 16. Pro. 2. this priuy kinde of Confession was euer commanded by God saith he we reade not Erasmus in annot ad Epist Hieronymi ad Oceanum de obitu Fabiolae telleth vs that in Saint Ieromes time foure hundred yeeres after Christ secret confession of sinnes was not ordained Bellar. lib. 3. de poenit cap. 1. acknowledgeth that Rhenanus and Erasmus beleeued that this secret confession was not instituted nor commanded by God nor in vse in the Ancient Church And these were as two learned Papists as euer were And therefore their testimonie is of no small credit herein Yea Erasmus there telleth vs that the Writings of the Fathers are abused to maintaine this priuate and secret confession Caietan in 3. Tho. q 8. art 4. holdeth that a man by contrition without confession is made cleane and a formall member of the Church Yea he saith that hee which is contrite for his sinne and receiueth the communion without Shrift sinneth not mortally though he haue a Confessor at hand Cornelius Agrippa de vanit cap. 64. I could saith he by many examples fresh in memory shew how
fit this Shrift is for bawdry If any desire more reade Bishop Vshers last booke wherein is cited Gratian Iohannes Semeca Michael of Bononia Iohannes de Selua Also let him look into Doctor Whites way of the true Church of the Papists differing opinions about this pag. 440. 441. in quarto digress 55. Num. 8. and D. Whites last booke p. 190 191. Ans to Fisher 192. citing Iohn Medina Gratian and Caietan Iansenius Vasques Mich. Palacius Gloss on Gratian Gerson Panormitan Maldonat and others Scriptures obiected answered Math. 18. 18. Whatsoeuer ye shall binde on earth c. Answ 1. Here is not a word of confession in this place of Scripture but rather of accusation by another For in the words foregoing the notice giuen to the Church is from the partie not offending but offended If thy brother trespasse against thee c. tell it to the Church But all Auricular confession is supposed voluntary whereby a man accuseth himselfe and in priuate not publike as here Ioh. 20. 23. Whose sinnes ye remit c. Answ 1. Here is no mention of confession of sinnes to them Secondly the authoritie giuen here to the Apostles was exercised in the publike Ministerie preaching of the Word though they heard no priuate confession as the Papists dreame of Therefore the Apostle Saint Paul calleth the preaching of the Word the ministerie of Reconciliation 2. Cor. 5. 18. Thirdly Christ saith there As my Father sent mee so I send you Now he was not sent to heare priuate confessions and thereupon to giue them absolutions but by preaching to binde vp the broken hearted to proclaime libertie to the captiues and the opening of the prison to them that are bound Esai 61. 1. Luk. 4. 18. Neither did he binde any to priuate confession nor sate to heare the same Therefore such as he sendeth are not tyed to doe otherwise neither hath heere Popish shrift any ground Fourthly Caietan on this place saith that the Sacrament of penance hath here no commandement Act. 19. 18. And many that beleeued came and confessed c. Answ Here is mention indeed of confession but this proueth not imposed priuate confession secretly in the Priests eare For first this is of a confession voluntary not enforced Secondly of many that did it but not of all Thirdly publike and not in S. Pauls eare For as they shewed their workes and brought their bookes and burnt them before all men verse 19 So was this confession open for the Text maketh no difference of these actions Fourthly Here it is said they confessed but no particular enumeration of sinnes with circumstances Fiftly Caietan a Cardinall in his Commentarie hereof holdeth that this place is not meant of Auricular confession Iam. 5. 16. Confesse your faults one to another Answ This is nothing for the Popish confession For first it is as generall as prayer one for another But Prayer is a dutie common to all Secondly he saith not the prayer of the Priest but of a righteous man And I hope that others beside Priests are righteous men Thirdly here is not a word of absolution but a promise to the prayer of faith not to the Priests words to saue the sicke and to haue his sinnes pardoned verse 15. Fourthly confession commanded heere is not confined to a Priest but may extend to any other This Saint Iames speakes to all to whom he wrote his Epistle And this place is to be vnderstood one of these three wayes First either of Priests and people and then are the Priests bound to confesse as well to the people as the people to them For it s said Confesse one to another that is mutually or reciprocally Secondly or heere is vnderstood onely of Priests among themselues and then is there nothing to the people Thirdly or onely of the people among themselues and then is this nothing to the Priest to take authoritie hence to bind the people to confesse to him Fourthly confession here is not of secret sinnes in heart against God or sinnes hidden from men but of trespasses or offences one against another as the word in the Originall sheweth and is so taken in Marke 11. 25 26. Vpon which grieuances mutuall confession or acknowledgement of wrongs is here enioyned as a fit meanes of brotherly reconciliation and preseruation of peace among themselues To which they must adde prayer one for another that their mutuall confession reciprocally for reconciliation may bee blessed vnto them Of which practice happy are they which make conscience and blessed should we be if to this euery man would submit himselfe A harder taske then to whisper his sinnes in a Priests eare secretly Lastly the Rhemists say vpon this text that it is not certaine that S. Iames speaketh here of Sacramentall confession Wherevpon others in alledging Scriptures for Auricular confession leaue out this place as not to the purpose Mat. 3. 5 6. Then went out to him Ierusalem and all Iudea and all the Region round about Iordane and were baptized in Iordane confessing their sinnes Answ This sorteth not with Popish Auricular Confession and that for these three reasons First this was publike not in a corner of the Temple or of a Synagogue but in the place where he baptized them in Iordan before all the people Secondly this was at their first conuersion receiuing Baptisme and not yeerely at set times Thirdly it s not certaine what sinnes or how many whether in generall or particular they confessed Fourthly it was impossible for Iohn to heare euery mans priuate confession with enumeration of circumstances seeing all Iudea and all the Region about Iordane and Ierusalem went out to him meaning very many and multitudes of people Leuit. 13. 2. 14. 2. The Leper shall bee brought vnto the Priest c. Answ 1. Here is no mention of confession of sinnes but of one brought to the Priest to take a view of the Plague of Leprosie vpon the body verse 9 10. All the argument therefore that can hence be drawne is onely typicall not conuicting Secondly the partie was not to come and confesse himselfe a Leper to the Priest but the Priest was to iudge him so and to pronounce him a Leper chap. 13. 3 11 44. Then should the Leper cry and confesse not to the Priest but to the people that hee was vncleane verse 45. Thirdly this iudgement of the Leprosie by a plaine Law here belonged to the Priest But where can they shew a Law onely for their Priests to heare priuate confession after their Popish manner Fourthly the Priest looking vpon the partie was not in priuate betweene them two but before other for hee was brought vnto the Priest by others to bee viewed Fiftly the Priest did not alwayes professe the partie cleane vpon shewing his malady as the Popish Priest doth euer the Confitent vpon shewing his sins by confession but the Leuiticall Priest put the partie apart from all others a time for a tryall Leuit. 13. 4 5. and after