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A45328 An apologie for the ministry and its maintenance wherein is set forth the necessity, dignity and efficacy of a gospel-ministry against the Socinians, Swenckfieldians, Weigelians, Anabaptists, Enthusiasts, Familists, Seekers, Quakers, Levellers, Libertines and the rest of that rout ... / by Tho. Hall. Hall, Thomas, 1610-1665.; Shaw, Samuel, 1635-1696. 1660 (1660) Wing H425A; ESTC R28055 88,780 120

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22. The Church Triumphant is the Church and the onely Church that needs no ministry ministers or ordinances For God is all this to them Instead of the word of God they read in the God of that Word instead of the representation of Christ in Sacraments they have the enjoyment of him without the help of shadows or types The immediate enjoyment of God in this life without the means is sure then a fancy onely beseeming the heady brains or rather brainless heads of Anabaptists It is the proper Priviledg of the Church Triumphant to serve God immediately without Temple or Ordinances Amongst them it is that Prophes●●s shall fail 1 Cor. 13 8. But in the Church militant they are to be highly esteemed 1 Thes. 5. 20● 7. It appeares by the care of the Apostles for the continuation of their Successors and the perpetuation of a Ministry in the Church Paul commands Titus to ordain Elders and Bishops in 〈◊〉 city describes the persons to be ordained and prescribes rules for the ordaining of them T it 1. 5 6 7 8 c. He command● and cautions Timothy also about the same thing and ●●ds him keep the commands relating to this Ministry till the appearing of the Lord Iesus Christ which Injunction is not onely laid upon Timothy in his own person but upon all the Ministers of Christ that shall be in succession to the end of the world 8. It appeares by that honor reverence and submission which by vertue of the command is due to the Successours of the Apostles 1 Thes. 5. 12 13. Phil. 2. 29. Heb. 13. 17. Which things so long as they are due must needs have and prove Ministers of the Gospel to whom they shall be given And if you take a way them that are over you in the Lord your Messengers them that have the rule over you and that watch for your soules I pray you tell me where will you bestow the high estimation and love the reputation obedience and submission which the great Apostle commands to be given in the fore-quoted Texts 9. It appears by that constant provision that God has made for his Ministers ordering them honourable stipends for their work Gal. 6. 6. 1 Cor. 9. 13 14. 1 Tim. 5. 17 18. which provision is laid up in the store-house of the Gospell not onely for the Apostles sake but all theirs that are Ministers of Christ in succession Now to what purpose should these commands of God remain in the B●ble if there should not be a remainder of Ministers still in the Church God needed not to have provided meat for his Ministers if he had been minded that men should have sewed up their m●uthes Away with the doting crew of Anabaptists then that despising the Word of God and Ministry of that Word and Ministers of that Ministry gape for the downfall of Revelations into their mouths and stare after New Lights Away with them to the Law and the Prophets Why stand ye gazing up into heaven for new discoveries to the Law and to the Testimony If they be not according to this Word it is because your new Lights have no light in them Isa. 8. 20. God hath ordained and established a publick Ministry and forbids the consulting of Diviners Observers of times Enchanters Charmers Witches Wizards Necromancers Deut. 18. 10 11 12. No nor must mens own Fancies lead them their own inventions be set up to give Oracles But in all doubtfull matters consult the Ministers of God vers 15. Is there no light in the Word of God or whether are your eyes out that ye cannot receive it Is that nothing but a dead letter now which in S. Pauls dayes was so quick and spirituall Heb. 4. 12. Is there no God but in the still voice of your spirituall conceivements and Revelations now adayes Well let 's hear what your spirit has to say against our Christ who has bidden ●o and teach and baptise CHAP. V. The Cavills and Fallacies of the Anabaptists Socinians Swend●eldians and Enthusiasts are blown away Obj. 1. THe first harbour of these Libertines Opinion in this thing is pretended to be in Ierem. 1. 34. They ●hall teach no more every man his neighbour and every man his brother saying Know the Lord for they shall all know me from ●he l●ast of them even to the greatest of them saith the Lord Therefore such a thing as the Ministry of the Word is needless under the New Testament Answ. 1. Words are not properly Scripture but the sense neither does the Scripture properly consist in the leaves of words but in the root of reason the Word of God is not to be taken formally as it is described by words and syllables but materially as it declares to us the minde and counsell of God we must not stick in the bark for that hath involved the ●apist● and Anabaptists in many Errours 2. If we must needs have so much regard to the letter of the Text it rather takes away Private Instruction then Publick Preaching for God does not say there shall be no publick Preachers but They shall no more t●ach every man his neighbour and every man his brother But neither can we dis●ard private Instructions under the Gospell if S● Paul be a Gospell-man who presseth this duty Coloss. 3. 16. 1 Thes. 5. 11. 3. The Text is a Promise Now Promises must not shoulder out nor overthrow Precepts neither must the means be taken away because the primary cause is laid down and asserted God feeds all it does not follow therefore that tillag● is unnecessary or bread needless ●or by these means God ●eeds us No more does it follow that because God teacheth therefore the ministry of his word is unnecessary for God teacheth by the ministry of his Word 4. The genuine scope of the Text is to shew us that God teacheth his Elect not onely externally by the ministry of his Word but internally by the ministry of his Holy Spi●it Neither does the Prophet speak absolutely simply and inclusively but comparatively as the Holy Ghost frequently speaks Things spoken negatively in Scripture are oft times to be understood comparatively and are not to be expounded so much by not as by not so much which is plain in Hos. 6. 6. Psal. 50. 8. Psal. 51. 16. Iohn 6. 38. Iohn 7. 16. and many other places So that the sum of the Prophets words will easi●y be There shall be a ●uller and clearer knowledg of God in the times of the New Testament then there was in the times of the Old 1. Because under the Old Testame●t Christ was obscurely shadowed out in Types but under the New he is plainly preach'd and shewn openly insomuch that a very boy w●ll ca●echised and instructed doth understand the Gospell concerning Christ beter then many of the Priests of the Law did which is the accomplishment of that Promise Isa. 11. 9. The earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the Lord. 2. Because there are farre more that are