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A09103 A discussion of the ansvvere of M. VVilliam Barlovv, D. of Diuinity, to the booke intituled: The iudgment of a Catholike Englishman liuing in banishment for his religion &c. Concerning the apology of the new Oath of allegiance. VVritten by the R. Father, F. Robert Persons of the Society of Iesus. VVhervnto since the said Fathers death, is annexed a generall preface, laying open the insufficiency, rayling, lying, and other misdemeanour of M. Barlow in his writing. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626. 1612 (1612) STC 19409; ESTC S114157 504,337 690

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svo_fw-la facere_fw-la ut_fw-la castè_fw-fr &_o purè_fw-la ●i●ant_fw-la when_o priest_n or_o deacon_n be_v appoint_v throughout_o parish_n they_o must_v first_o make_v profession_n unto_o their_o bishop_n that_o they_o will_v live_v chaste_o and_o pure_o the_o council_n do_v not_o say_v here_o that_o they_o may_v take_v wife_n with_o the_o bishop_n consent_n as_o be_v say_v of_o clerici_fw-la before_o wherefore_o in_o both_o these_o point_n i_o mean_v as_o well_o in_o this_o translation_n as_o in_o the_o main_a assertion_n that_o then_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o priest_n to_o have_v wife_n m._n barlow_n deal_v fraudulent_o i_o will_v not_o cite_v other_o counsel_n hold_v both_o before_o and_o after_o this_o both_o in_o spain_n &_o elsewhere_o concern_v this_o matter_n as_o before_o that_o of_o toledo_n the_o three_o about_o the_o year_n 589._o that_o of_o lion_n 5●6_n that_o of_o t●u●rs_n 570._o that_o of_o orlea●ce_n 587._o as_o also_o after_o let_v the_o reader_n view_v the_o 8._o 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reason_n in_o one_o chapter_n which_o be_v the_o 24._o next_o follow_v and_o answer_v all_o the_o argument_n object_v to_o the_o contrary_a to_o wit_n fix_v by_o name_n repeat_v often_o and_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n episcopi_fw-la non_fw-la succedunt_fw-la proprie_fw-la apost●lis_fw-la bishop_n do_v not_o succeed_v proper_o the_o apostle_n expound_v also_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o word_n properly_z dicuntur_fw-la episcopi_fw-la say_v he_o succedere_fw-la apostolis_n non_fw-la proprie_fw-la eo_fw-la modo_fw-la quo_fw-la ●nus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la alteri_fw-la unus_fw-la rex_fw-la alteri_fw-la sed_fw-la duplici_fw-la alia_fw-la ratione_fw-la primò_fw-la ratione_fw-la ordinis_fw-la sacri_fw-la episcopalis_fw-la secundò_fw-la per_fw-la quamdam_fw-la similitu●inem_fw-la etc._n etc._n bishop_n be_v say_v to_o succeed_v the_o apostle_n not_o proper_o as_o one_o bishop_n succeed_v another_o and_o one_o king_n another_z in_o all_o their_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n but_o two_o other_o way_n the_o first_o by_o reason_n of_o sacred_a episcopal_a order_n which_o they_o have_v which_o the_o apostle_n have_v and_o second_o by_o a_o certain_a similitude_n or_o proportion_n that_o as_o the_o apostle_n be_v the_o ●irst_n and_o immediate_a under_o christ_n when_o he_o be_v upon_o earth_n so_o be_v bishop_n now_o under_o the_o chief_a bishop_n etc._n etc._n a●l_o which_o be_v set_v down_o so_o clear_o in_o bellarmine_n own_o word_n and_o write_n hear_v i_o pray_v you_o what_o modest_a conclusion_n m._n ba●low_n make_v of_o all_o that_o be_v say_v 269._o if_o he_o stand_v say_v he_o on_o the_o place_n where_o the_o negative_a be_v to_o wit_n in_o the_o four_o book_n de_fw-fr pontifice_fw-la there_o indeed_o the_o cardinal_n drive_v to_o ●is_n shift_n be_v force_v to_o coin_v this_o distinction_n but_o yet_o that_o salve_n not_o the_o contradiction_n but_o make_v it_o great_a for_o therein_o he_o show_v barlow_n that_o he_o manifest_o oppose_v both_o himself_o and_o all_o the_o father_n for_o in_o superiority_n of_o jurisdiction_n bishop_n by_o
abroad_o p._n 50._o more_o contain_v therein_o then_o civil_a obedience_n p._n 70._o 71._o &_o 280._o humble_a petition_n to_o his_o majesty_n for_o the_o exposition_n thereof_o p._n 89._o scandal_n in_o exhibit_v thereof_o p._n 126._o 127._o etc._n etc._n no_o such_o oath_n ever_o enact_v before_o by_o former_a prince_n p._n 156._o card._n beauties_n opinion_n thereof_o pag._n 346._o 347._o etc._n etc._n divide_v into_o 14._o part_n p._n 357._o difference_n between_o the_o say_a oath_n and_o a_o indenture_n pag._n 362._o oath_n of_o supremacy_n p._n 353._o defend_v by_o m._n barlow_n 354._o &_o 355._o obedience_n against_o god_n &_o man_n conscience_n none_o pag._n 282._o obedience_n of_o our_o temporal_a prince_n how_o far_o &_o when_o it_o bind_v p._n 291._o define_v by_o s._n thomas_n 339._o ordination_n of_o protestant_a bishop_n first_o under_o q._n elizabeth_n praf_n n._n 136._o p_o paulus_n quintus_n pope_n defend_v 54._o 55._o 56._o 57_o his_o breve_n discuss_v part_n 2._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la whether_o he_o forbid_v temporal_a odedience_n to_o his_o majesty_n therein_o p._n 323._o &_o deinceps_fw-la ●_o person_n calumniate_v by_o m._n barlow_n pag._n 204._o belie_v p._n 263._o petrus_n de_fw-fr v●●●is_n extol_v by_o m._n barlow_n p._n 499._o justify_v pag._n 509._o censure_v 523●_n philip_n the_o emperor_n his_o murder_n pag._n 470._o plutarch_n abuse_v by_o m._n barlow_n pag._n 61._o pope_n power_n over_o infidel_n prince_n p._n 76._o how_o they_o be_v particular_a bishop_n of_o rome_n &_o pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n pag._n 145._o whether_o they_o can_v make_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n or_o no_o pag._n 324._o 325._o &_o deinceps_fw-la whether_o they_o command_v prince_n to_o be_v murder_v pag._n 394._o 395._o etc._n etc._n powder-treason_n pag._n 13._o 14._o 15._o etc._n etc._n f._n person_n accuse_v therewith_o by_o m._n barlow_n p._n 23._o powder-plot_n of_o antwerp_n pag._n 18._o of_o hage_n p._n 19_o of_o edenborrow_n ibid._n prescription_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n part_n 1._o cap._n 5._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la good_a argument_n in_o case_n of_o relion_n pag._n 150._o &_o 152._o vide_fw-la antiquity_n the_o same_o urge_v by_o the_o father_n ib._n belie_v shameful_o pag._n 246._o protestant_n go_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n pag._n 149._o their_o ecclesiastical_a power_n over_o puritan_n pag._n 259._o their_o baseness_n &_o beggary_n pag._n 265._o their_o conflict_n with_o puritan_n about_o matter_n of_o religion_n pag._n 270._o their_o church_n base_a of_o all_o other_o praef_n n._n 36._o providence_n of_o god_n discourse_v of_o by_o s._n augustine_n pag._n 416._o q_o queen_n mary_n of_o scotland_n put_v to_o de●th_n for_o religion_n pag._n 51._o preach_v against_o by_o m._n barlow_n pag._n 212._o queen_n vide_fw-la elizabeth_n r_o resolution_n of_o catholic_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n p._n 123._o of_o protestant_n none_o at_o all_o ibid._n &_o 124._o what_o resolution_n be_v take_v from_o the_o pope_n pag._n 125._o m._n reynolds_n write_v against_o whitaker_n pag._n 457._o rome_n recourse_n to_o rome_n about_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n p._n 50._o 51._o 52._o etc._n etc._n the_o same_o practise_v in_o all_o difficulty_n by_o our_o english_a prince_n &_o people_n pag._n 53._o &_o 377._o church_n of_o rome_n impugn_a p._n 144._o s_o salmeron_n abuse_v by_o m._n morton_n &_o m._n barlow_n p._n 75._o salomon_n fact_n of_o kill_a adoniah_n condemn_v pag._n 105._o d._n sanders_n abuse_v by_o m._n barlow_n pag._n 77._o scandal_n in_o exhibit_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n p._n 128._o 129_o 130._o etc._n etc._n of_o active_a and_o passive_a scandal_n pag._n 132._o 134._o 135._o scandal_n of_o balaa●_n pag._n 139._o sigebert_n calumniate_v pag._n ●3_n k._n sis●nandus_n his_o submission_n to_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n p._n 36●_n statute_n of_o association_n pag._n 429._o suspicion_n vide_fw-la idolatry_n four_o kind_n of_o suspicion_n pag._n 119._o supremacy_n masculine_a &_o feminine_a pag._n 395._o how_o it_o be_v give_v to_o k._n henry_n the_o 8._o pag._n 29●_n to_o k._n edward_n and_o q._n elizabeth_n abide_v to_o k._n james._n pag._n 29●_n &_o m._n barlowes_n judgement_n thereupon_o ibid._n &_o pag._n 300_o sycophancy_n vide_fw-la flattery_n m._n barlowes_n division_n of_o sycophancy_n pag._n 242._o sixtu●_n vide_fw-la pope_n t_o s._n thomas_n his_o opinion_n concern_v obedience_n pag._n ●●●_o about_o total_o praef_n n._n 52._o abuse_v by_o m._n barlow_n pag._n ●36_n threaten_n of_o god_n unto_o king_n pag._n 108._o t●byes_n breach_n of_o the_o king_n of_o ninive_n his_o coma●ndment_n about_o bury_v of_o the_o dead_a jew_n p._n 289._o §_o 2._o the_o ancient_a father_n judgement_n thereof_o pag._n 288._o the_o credit_n of_o the_o history_n of_o toby_n pag._n 287._o toleration_n of_o religion_n humble_o demand_v of_o his_o majesty_n part_n 2._o cap._n 4._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la thomas_n vide_fw-la morton_n treason_n vide_fw-la powder-treason_n five_o vessel_n consecrate_v to_o church_n use_v ancient_a p._n 237._o vi●es_n of_o wicked_a king_n recount_v after_o their_o death_n in_o scripture_n pag._n 199._o university_n of_o m._n barlow_n little_a p._n 236._o w_n m._n whitaker_n a_o terror_n to_o card._n bellarmine_n in_o m._n barlowes_n judgement_n pag._n 455._o his_o book_n refute_v by_o m._n reynolds_n pag._n 457._o his_o ignorance_n ibid._n william_n vide_fw-la barlow_n workes-good_a work_n may_v give_v cause_n of_o confidence_n in_o god_n p._n 440._o sir_n henry_n wotton_n a_o wooden_a ambassador_n praef_n n._n 70._o his_o prank_n at_o ausburge_n &_o venice_n ibid._n x_o xystus_n 5._o belie_v about_o the_o murder_n of_o king_n henry_n the_o 3._o of_o france_n pag._n 115._o z_o zisca_n the_o blind_a rebel_n of_o bohemia_n pag._n 456._o finis_fw-la three_o thing_n declare_v in_o this_o preface_n for_o the_o reader_n satisfaction_n why_o m._n barlowes_n book_n be_v answer_v by_o f._n person_n the_o cause_n of_o the_o stay_n of_o this_o edition_n what_o manner_n of_o writer_n m._n ba●low_n be_v isa._n 1●_n tertull._n d●_n praes●rip_v cap._n 41._o aug._n tract_n 45._o in_o joamnem_fw-la bernard_n serm_n 65._o in_o cantica_fw-la m._n barlow_n in_o his_o epistle_n dedicatory_a to_o his_o majesty_n m._n barlowes_n manner_n of_o writing_n m._n barlowes_n ignorance_n in_o gramme●_n &_o humanity_n barlow_n pag._n 15●_n pag._n 295●_n gregor_n lib._n 2._o ep._n ep_n 65._o barl._n pag._n 174._o a_o very_a gros●e_n grammatical_a error_n fragmentum_fw-la histori●um_fw-la in_o anno_fw-la 1238._o ●omo_fw-la 1._o hist._n germ._n casarum_fw-la bellarm._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n cap._n 28._o barlow_n pag._n 342._o a_o strange_a construction_n of_o orbis_n terrae_fw-la bellar._n l●●_n citato_fw-la m._n barlowes_n ignorance_n in_o philosophy_n leo_fw-la ep_n 89._o d._n th●_n lec_fw-la 12._o in_o periber_n lit_fw-fr f._n m._n barlow_v ignorance_n in_o history_n barlow_n pag._n 298._o barlow_n pag._n 292._o &_o deinceps_fw-la barlow_n pag._n 245._o pag._n 288._o pag._n 295._o m._n barlowes_n ignorance_n in_o interpret_n the_o scripture_n barl._n pag._n 53._o cant._n 3._o barlow_n pag._n 43._o josue_n 6._o pag._n 201._o josue_n 6._o pag._n 60._o gen._n 3._o matth._n 9_o barlow_n pag._n 334._o m._n barlowes_n ignorance_n in_o matter_n of_o divinity_n barlow_n pag._n 188._o d._n thom._n 2.2_o q._n 104._o be_v 6._o ad_fw-la 3._o 〈◊〉_d pag._n ●7_n pag._n 57_o 〈◊〉_d pag._n 114._o d._n tho._n 2.2_o q._n 162_o ●●_o 4._o in_o 〈◊〉_d pag._n 246._o m._n barlowes_n paradox_n barlow_n pag._n 160._o the_o protestant_n conscience_n like_o a_o cheverall_a point_n a_o profane_a and_o barbarous_a assertion_n of_o m._n barlow_n barlow_n pag_n 99_o athan._n ep_n ad_fw-la solitarian_n vit●m_fw-la agent●s_fw-la hilarius_n lib._n 1._o in_o constant_a augustum_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la ●nitium_fw-la barlow_n pag_n 2●2_n barlow_n pa●●_n 142._o see_v supra_fw-la pag._n 120._o d._n andr._n respon_n ad_fw-la apol._n cap._n ●5_n pag._n 343._o §._o porr●_fw-la negat_fw-la part_n 2._o cap._n 4._o print_a anno_fw-la 160●_n an._n 1607._o d._n covell_a in_o his_o just_a and_o temperate_a defence_n be_v 11._o pag._n 67._o li●_n 8._o in_o job._n cap._n 2._o puritan_n acknowledge_v a_o essential_a difference_n between_o they_o and_o the_o protestant_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n an._n 160●_n arg_fw-mi 10._o circa_fw-la medium_n si_fw-mi none_o vpo●_n the_o ar●c_n pag._n 142._o s●e_v ba●on_n tom_fw-mi 12_o in_o anno_fw-la 1140._o s●●●nnius_fw-la tom_n 4._o pag._n 1223._o and_o s._n bern._n ep_n 187._o 188._o &_o they_o ●ps_o p●py●ius_fw-la ma●sovius_fw-la l_o 3_o annal._n in_o ph●●ppo_n august_n pag._n 268._o bern._n ep_n 240._o ●●●nar_fw-mi lu●●en_fw-fr et_fw-fr 〈…〉_z a●bizen_n es_fw-mi 〈…〉_z see_v christianus_n massaeus_n l._n 17._o chron._n ad_fw-la a_o 1206._o caesa●ius_fw-mi heiesterb_fw-ge l._n 5._o illust_n mirac_fw-la cap._n 21._o see_v the_o protestant_n apology_n pag._n 343._o jewel_n defence_n pag._n 48_o m._n jewel_n contrary_a to_o himself_o guido_n carmelita_n in_o summa_fw-la cap._n 9_o de_fw-la
the_o moon_n in_o the_o asse●_n belly_n m._n barlow_v flattery_n of_o king_n barl._n p._n 44_o 3._o reg._n 2._o wise_o sir_n william_n salomon_n fact_n of_o kill_a adoniah_n condemn_v lucae_n 2._o job_n 36._o psal._n 2._o the_o second_o psalm_n ill_o choose_v of_o m._n barlow_n for_o flattery_n of_o prince_n example_n of_o god_n terrible_a threat_n unto_o king_n dani●l_o .4_o 3._o r●g_v 21._o job_n 36._o god_n providence_n in_o govern_v his_o church_n perfect_a &_o no_o way_n defectuous_a alu._n pelag_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr planctu_fw-la eccl._n cap._n 13._o aluarus_n pelagius_n abuse_v by_o m._n barl._n gratian_n decret_a part_n 1._o distinct_a 5._o greg._n c._n 10._o ad_fw-la interrogata_fw-la augustini_fw-la beda_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr hist._n angl._n cap._n 27._o bertrand_n in_o additione_n ad_fw-la glos_fw-la de_fw-fr maioritate_fw-la &_o obedientia_fw-la c._n ●_o barl._n p._n 49._o m._n barlow_v false_a deal_n in_o allege_v his_o adversary_n word_n ●et_v p._n 20._o prou._n ●4_n vers_fw-la 28._o vincen._n advers._n hare_n august_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la rel_n cap._n 38._o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n not_o always_o cause_v of_o f●ar_n four_o kind_n of_o superstition_n 1._o tim._n 1._o m._n barl._n provoke_v to_o stand_v to_o his_o own_o author_n the_o mayor_n the_o mi●or_n a_o important_a controversy_n to_o be_v handle_v if_o m._n barlow_n list_v to_o accept_v this_o offer_n al●beit_v the_o author_n be_v dead_a he_o shall_v find_v those_o that_o will_v join_v with_o he_o barl._n p._n 52._o there_o be_v no_o ultima_fw-la resolutio_fw-la with_o the_o protestant_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o catholic_n answer_v concern_v his_o u●tima_fw-la ●esolutio_fw-la no_o resolution_n among_o heretic_n what_o resolution_n be_v take_v from_o the_o pope_n pag._n 53._o m._n barlow_n hate_v of_o ambition_n scilicet_fw-la and_o his_o mortification_n m._n barlow_v stomach_n for_o digestion_n and_o concoction_n barl._n p._n 54._o letter_n pag._n ●●_o bar._n p._n 55._o m._n barlow_v idle_a discourse_n 1._o pet._n 2._o 1._o cor._n 8._o lett._n p._n 22._o m._n barlowes_n ill_a fortune_n in_o deal_v with_o schol_n man_n barl._n p._n 57_o of_o active_a &_o passive_a scandal_n ●_o 2._o q._n 43._o be_v 1._o ad_fw-la 4._o scandal_n active_a without_o passive_a ibid._n art_n 2._o in_o co●por●_n carnal_a divinity_n bad_a deal_n in_o m._n barlow_n the_o definition_n of_o scandal_n &_o what_o be_v active_a and_o passive_a scandal_n scandalum_fw-la pharisaeorum_fw-la scandalum_fw-la pusillo●un_n s._n thomas_n expound_v s._n thom._n abuse_v the_o error_n of_o m._n barlow_n about_o the_o matter_n of_o scandal_n m._n barlow_n want_v of_o patience_n m._n barlow_n understand_v not_o the_o tear●es_n o●_n school_v divinity_n epist._n 50._o who_o lie_v the_o scandal_n of_o balaam_n catholic_n or_o protestant_n letter_n pag._n 22._o m._n barlow_n speak_v mor●_n than_o he_o can_v prove_v the_o succession_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n barl._n pag._n 59_o &_o 60._o m._n barlow_v argument_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o pope_n both_o particular_a bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o yet_o chief_a pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n m._n barlowes_n bad_a argument_n which_o be_v false_a both_o in_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a evil_a life_n do_v not_o prejudice_n truth_n of_o doctrine_n barl._n p._n 60._o m._n barlowes_n ministerial_a phrase_n of_o indument_n and_o strip_v by_o baptism_n we_o be_v make_v member_n of_o the_o church_n protestant_n go_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n not_o catholic_n out_o of_o they_o barl._n p._n 62●_n matt●_n 13●_n antiquity_n &_o prescription_n good_a argument_n in_o case_n of_o religion_n matth._n 13._o tertul._n advers_a marc._n lib._n 4._o the_o father_n do_v urge_v prescription_n hilar._n lib._n 6._o de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la ante_fw-la medium_n hier._n epis●●_n ad_fw-la pa●nachium_n pag._n ●2_n council_n ca●thag_n apu●_fw-la cyprianun_n bad_a deal_n of_o m._n barlow_n how_o possession_n with_o prescription_n be_v evince_a argument_n in_o m●tters_n of_o faith_n sober_a rec._n cap._n 3._o §._o 101._o etc._n etc._n m._n barlow_n hardly_o urge_v matth._n ult._n matth._n 16._o no_o such_o oath_n ever_o exa●ted_v by_o o●her_a prince_n barl._n pag._n 62._o about_o q._n elizabeth_n reign_n life_n &_o death_n lett._n p._n 27._o queen_n elizabeth_n her_o mane_n m._n barlowes_n flatter_v loquence_n barl._n 64._o m._n barl._n turn_v with_o the_o wind_n like_o a_o weathercock_n queen_n elizabeth_n otherwise_o blazon_v by_o foreign_a writer_n then_o m._n barlow_n report_v barlow_n p._n 66._o &_o 67._o q._n elizabeth_n canonize_v for_o a_o saint_n by_o m._n barlow_n q._n elizabeth_n in_o m._n barl._n his_o judgement_n never_o commit_v an●_n mortal_a sin_n q._n elizabeth_n will_v never_o have_v choose_v m._n barlow_n for_o her_o ghostly_a father_n about_o q._n elizabeth_n mane_n &_o sacrifice_v unto_o they_o barl._n p._n 74._o hierom._n e●ist_n ad_fw-la rom._n orat●●em_fw-la august_n de_fw-fr d●●tr_n chris●ian_n m._n barl._n his_o trifle_n act._n 28._o v._n 11._o 2._o pet._n 2._o 4._o act._n 17._o 28._o rom._n 14.4_o in_o what_o case_n a_o man_n may_v judge_n of_o another_o 1._o tim._n 5._o 24._o barl._n p._n 75._o matth._n 6._o about_o external_a mortification_n 3._o reg._n 2d_o 27._o achab_n true_o mortify_v profane_a impiety_n in_o m._n barlow_n q._n elizabeth_n no_o cloister_v nunce_o a_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n expound_v concern_v bodily_a exercise_n ch●ysost_n in_o comment_n ad_fw-la c._n 4._o in_o 1._o tim._n 3._o reg._n 17._o m._n barlow_n no_o friend_n to_o mortification_n a_o strange_a kind_n of_o mortification_n mortification_n rom._n 8._o 13●_n aug._n l._n 1._o confe●s_n c._n 5._o bern_n serm_n 52._o in_o cant._n ser._n 13_o the_o verb●●_n apost_n strange_a kind_n of_o answer_v gregor_n 5._o moral_n c._n ●_o two_o part_n of_o mortification_n internal_a &_o external_a external_a mortification_n in_o prince_n m._n barlow_n a_o divine_a for_o the_o court._n apol._n pag._n 16._o m._n barl._n foolish_a shift_n in_o answer_v his_o adversary_n objection_n about_o the_o persecution_n under_o q._n elizabeth_n lett._n pa●_n 18._o let._n p._n 29._o l._n cook_n in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o late_a arraignment_n f●l_o 53._o psal._n 143._o barl._n p._n 78._o m._n barlow_n very_o forgetful_a temporal_a felicity_n no_o argument_n of_o spiritual_a happiness_n psal._n 72._o hier._n 12._o abacu●_n 10._o psalm_n 77._o bellarm_n de_fw-fr notis_fw-la eccl._n cap._n 15._o a_o place_n of_o b●llarm●_n answer_v concern_v temporal_a felicity_n s._n august_n discourse_n s._n hierome_n arnobius_n s._n basil._n s._n chrysostome_n theodoret_n euthymius_n psal._n 2._o 4._o psa._n ●_o 36.23_o sapien._n 4._o proverb_n 1._o 26._o m._n barley_n move_v habens_fw-la l._n c●●●●_n in_o t●e_v last_o bo●ke_v ●f_a arr●ignments_n pag._n 64._o a_o bad_a definition_n of_o misery_n by_o co●●a_n &_o ino●ia_fw-la psal._n 68_o 2._o cor._n 1._o sir_n edw._n cook_n a_o poor_a 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prot●stant_n calumnious_a citation_n for_o what_o cause_n a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o martyr_n matth._n 5._o the_o priest_n that_o d●e_n ●●n_fw-la q._n 〈◊〉_d time_n true_a martyr_n m._n barlow_v two_o foolish_a case_n ●arl_n p._n 92._o quodlib_n pag._n 269._o 277._o m._n barlow_v trifle_v m._n barl_n silence_n and_o the_o cause_n thereof_o a_o charitable_a bishop_n barl._n p._n 94._o barl._n preface_n to_o his_o s●●mon_n the_o fi●st_n sunday_n in_o lent_n 16●0_n about_o the_o make_v a_o way_n his_o majesty_n mother_n tacitus_n l●_n 1._o histor._n m._n barlow_n turn_v his_o sail_n with_o the_o wind_n &_o serve_v the_o tyme._n barl._n p._n 59_o q._n elizabeth_n purgation_n about_o the_o q_o of_o scotland_n death_n hier._n 2._o 22._o about_o the_o disastrous_a death_n of_o q._n elizabeth_n ●●5_n ●5_z the_o narration_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o q._n elizabeth_n death_n in_o what_o case_n we_o may_v judge_n of_o other_o man_n soul_n after_o their_o death_n 1._o tim._n 5._o no_o sin_n to_o judge_v of_o man_n decease_v in_o her●sie_n cyprian_n l._n 〈…〉_z s._n
c●prian●_n judgement_n of_o su●h_a as_o die_v out_o o●_n the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d l_o 4_o 〈…〉_z 17._o au●ust_n 〈◊〉_d 2d_o 4._o ad_fw-la donat●_n a_o notable_a sentence_n of_o s._n augustine_n a_o ●ard_a cesure_n against_o all_o the_o ●abble_n of_o i●●n_a fox_n his_o martyr_n a_o convince_a argument_n upon_o th●_n premi●●s_n the_o hard_a ●ase_n of_o q._n elizabe_v a_o remarkable_a comparison_n q._n elizabeth_n hold_v condemn_v heresy_n haeresi_fw-la 53._o aug._n l._n 9_o conf●●●_n c._n 13._o s._n monica_n desire_v to_o be_v pray_v for_o at_o the_o altar_n after_o her_o death_n which_o q._n elizabeth_n do_v not_o lett._n p._n 36._o see_v answer_n to_o sir_n edw._n cook_n c._n 15._o his_o majesty_n mild_a disposition_n divert_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o minister_n t._n montague_n barl._n pag._n 102._o malicious_a contradiction_n barl._n pag._n 103._o m._n barlow_n a_o true_a parasite_n barl._n pag●_n 102._o about_o the_o nature_n of_o flattery_n &_o how_o sy●_n william_n demean_v himself_o therein_o augu._n in_o 〈◊〉_d 69._o m._n barlow_n a_o egregious_a flatterer_n m._n barlow_v prayer_n without_o hope_n luc._n 10._o 21._o flatter_v of_o his_o majesty_n barl_n p._n 105._o sir_n willi●m_n deserve_v his_o fee._n about_o the_o little_a university_n these_o be_v a_o other_o manner_n of_o university_n act._n ●●_o s._n athan●sius_n epist._n ad_fw-la solitari●m_fw-la vitam_fw-la agentes_fw-la s._n gregor_n nazian_n s._n ambrose_n nazian_n orat_fw-la ad_fw-la ●ives_n timore_fw-la perculsos_fw-la ambros._n epist_n 33._o ad_fw-la sororem_fw-la s._n chrysostome_n s._n hierome_n s._n aug●stine_n s._n gregory_n m._n barlow_v division_n of_o sycophancy_n miracle_n ●●●d●d_a and_o contemn_v m._n barl._n a_o good_a proctor_n for_o the_o turk_n &_o infidel_n the_o miracle_n of_o s._n denys_n the_o miracle_n of_o s._n clement_n m_o barl._n turn_v a_o anchor_n into_o a_o millstone_n of_o s._n gregory_n thaumaturgus_n m._n barlow_v foolery_n sixtus_n quartus_fw-la bely_v barl._n pag._n ●08●_n base_a babble_n chelsey_n erection_n for_o writer_n bar●_n pag._n 112._o m._n barlow_n add_v to_o the_o text_n a_o most_o reasonable_a and_o modest_a request_n of_o the_o cath._n simple_n &_o impertinent_a reason_n of_o m._n barlow_n let._n p._n 38._o in_o vita_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ●un●i_fw-la anno_fw-la 1●46_n liberty_n of_o conscience_n demand_v by_o all_o protestant_n ●_o psal._n 113._o 113._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d height_n of_o pride_n and_o in_o who_o it_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v barl._n pag._n 110._o strange_a note_n of_o humility_n set_v down_o b●_n m._n barl●w_n m._n barlow_n betray_v his_o own_o cause_n barl._n ibidem_fw-la the_o protestant_n have_v ecclesiastical_a power_n over_o puritan_n 1._o joan._n 2._o in_o what_o case_n catholic_n may_v yield_v and_o grant_v toleration_n to_o protestant_n matth._n 13._o m._n barlow_n at_o a_o nonplus_n unkind_a deal_n indeed_o barl._n pag._n 124._o m._n barlow●_n moderate_a &_o direct_a prot●●t●nt_n m._n barlow_n belie_v f._n person_n psal._n 5●_n barl._n pag._n 142._o strange_a impudence_n baseness_n and_o beggary_n of_o protestant_n theol._n tigurin_n in_o prafat_n apol_n prafix_n orthodox_n c●n._n anno_fw-la 1578._o lib._n 2._o the_o rat_n ineund●_n concordiae_fw-la p._n 2._o &_o 24._o protestant_n and_o puritan_n differ_v in_o substantial_a point_n of_o religion_n roger_n pr●f●●e_n pag._n 9_o arrige_fw-la aures_fw-la sir_n william_n m._n barlow_n a_o bad_a advocate_n m._n barlow_n in_o the_o brake_n amb._n ep_n 33._o ba●l_n pag._n ●69_n a_o hard_a argument_n for_o m._n barlow_n to_o solve_v silly_a stuff_n m._n barlow_v li●le_a care_n of_o his_o majesties_n eternal_a life_n good_a &_o evil_a prince_n to_o be_v obey_v for_o conscience_n but_o not_o against_o conscience_n barlow_n pag._n 160._o m._n barlow_n have_v the_o conscience_n of_o a_o ass_n &_o a_o wolf_n a_o strange_a &_o wicked_a assertion_n of_o m._n barlow_n 1._o 2._o q._n 19_o art_n 5._o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o act_n of_o our_o will_n do_v depend_v upon_o our_o reason_n and_o judgement_n a_o sin_n to_o do_v contrary_a to_o a_o erroneous_a conscience_n what_o i●_n to_o be_v ●one_n of_o he_o who_o ha●h_v a_o erroneous_a conscience_n ●_o tim._n 1._o m._n barlowes_n monstrous_a doctrine_n more_o fit_v the_o turk_n alcoran_n then_o the_o gospel_n of_o jesus_n christ._n s._n paul_n abuse_v more_o contemn_v in_o the_o oath_n then_o civil_a obedience_n let._n p._n 51._o apol._n pag._n 22._o hi●r_n 27._o 12._o exod._n 5.1_o esdr._n 1.3_o dan._n 3.12_o no_o obedience_n against_o god_n &_o a_o man_n conscience_n deu._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 1._o ●_o mach._n 1._o barl._n pag._n 161._o a_o strange_a assertion_n weak_a proof_n a_o simple_a discourse_n barl._n pag._n 168._o the_o fact_n of_o toby_n against_o the_o commandment_n of_o k._n senacherib_n tob._n 2._o v._n 9_o tob._n 12._o m._n barlow_n a_o bad_a angel_n the_o credit_n of_o the_o history_n of_o toby_n c●c_fw-la tri●_n sess_v 4._o carth._n can_v 47._o aug._n 2._o de_fw-fr doc_fw-fr chrism_n cap._n 8._o amb._n de_fw-fr tob._n 2._o cyp._n de_fw-fr orat_fw-la dominica_n &_o l._n de_fw-fr mortali●_n s._n augustine_n and_o other_o father_n judgment_n of_o the_o fact_n of_o toby_n cap._n 3._o cap._n 13._o s._n ambr._n ●ib_fw-la de_fw-fr tob._n c._n 1._o tob._n 12._o cyp._n lib._n d●_n oratione_fw-la dom._n this_o be_v no_o protestant_a doctrine_n a_o great_a presumption_n of_o m._n barlowes_n piety_n letter_n pag._n 52._o authority_n of_o ancient_a father_n apol._n p._n 23._o ●_o aug._n in_o psal._n 124._o how_o far_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o obey_v our_o temporal_a prince_n apol._n p._n 23._o tertull._n ad_fw-la scap._n iust._n apol._n 2._o ad_fw-la anton_n impera●_n optat._n contra_fw-la parmen_fw-la lib._n 3._o ambros_n orat._n contra_fw-la auxent_n de_fw-fr basilicis_fw-la non_fw-la trad_a lib._n 5._o epist._n three_o occasion_n in_o which_o s._n ambrose_n resist_v the_o emperor_n his_o temporal_a sovereign_n libellus_fw-la ambros._n epist_n 32._o amb._n l._n ●_o epist_n 33._o amb._n ibid._n ambros._n con●_n de_fw-fr basili●●s_fw-fr non_fw-la traden●●●s_fw-la m._n barlowes_n shift_v answer_n to_o the_o three_o place_n of_o s._n ambrose_n feminine_a supremacy_n more_o esteem_v of_o m._n barlow_n then_o masculine_a barlow_n pag._n 171._o magdeb._n cent_n 4._o c._n 5._o 6._o &_o 7._o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o hallow_v church_n vessel_n naz._n orat_fw-la de_fw-fr s●ipso_fw-la contra_fw-la arianos_fw-la m._n barlow_v decline_v in_o the_o point_n of_o supremacy_n stat._n h._n 8._o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1535._o the_o supremacy_n how_o it_o be_v give_v to_o k●_n henry_n &_o in_o what_o high_a measure_n k._n edwar●_n a_o 1_o e_z 6._o cap._n 2._o queen_n elizabeth_n m._n barlow_v judgement_n about_o the_o king_n supreme_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n m._n barlow_v fumble_v m._n barlow_v absurd_a distinction_n &_o division_n m._n barlow_v delusion_n m._n barlow_n have_v mar_v the_o market_n of_o the_o king_n supremacy_n lett._n p._n 56._o apolog._n pag._n 24._o how_o s._n gregory_n agree_v to_o the_o publish_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o emperor_n ●auritius_fw-la greg._n l._n 2._o epist._n 65._o indict_v 11._o greg._n lib._n 7._o epist._n 1●_n indict_v 1._o barl._n pag._n 173._o mauritius_n his_o law_n no●_n altogether_o ecclesiastical_a how_o the_o emperor_n law_n be_v ecclesiastical_a a_o good_a consideration_n a_o fond_a cavil_n pag._n 174._o barl._n pag._n 174._o a_o ridiculous_a error_n in_o grammar_n of_o m._n barlow_n letter_n pag._n ●8_o conc_fw-fr arel_n sub_fw-la carol._n can._n 26._o vi●e_v in_o capitularibus_fw-la franc._n lib._n 6._o c._n 285._o de_fw-fr concilio_n worma●_n wherein_o the_o council_n or_o arles_n do_v submit_v itself_o to_o the_o emperor_n emperor_n can._n 2._o 2._o can._n 3._o 3._o can._n 4._o 4._o can._n 7._o &_o 8._o 8._o can._n 13●_n 13●_n can._n 15._o &_o 16._o 16._o can._n 20._o 22._o 23._o the_o zeal_n of_o charl●_n the_o great_a to_o have_v manner_n reform_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n barlow_n pag._n 175._o a_o gross_a contradicti●_n in_o m._n barlow_n a_o very_a forcible_a argument_n m._n barlow_v memory_n very_o short_a m._n barlow_n play_v fast_o &_o loose_a about_o the_o king_n authority_n a_o hard_a question_n for_o m._n barlow_n to_o answer_v barl._n pag._n 178._o false_a deal_n amb._n tun_n 5._o edit_n vatican_n epist_n prefix_v an●e_v con●il_n aquile●en_n about_o the_o of_o council_n worm_n ●●on_n ann_n 77●_n &_o 772._o 〈◊〉_d f●anc_n ●_o 6._o c._n 28_n ●●_o l_o 7._o c._n 2●●_n better_o to_o be_v a_o fugitive_n for_o the_o catholic_n religion_n on_o abroad_o then_o to_o be_v a_o persecutor_n at_o home_n general_n counsel_n always_o call_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n barl._n pag._n 178._o the_o radiant_a folly_n of_o m._n barlow_n m_o bar●owes_n impudence_n ba●on_n tom_fw-mi 9_o ann_n 774._o a●o●_n p._n 26._o &_o ●7_n lett._n p._n 61._o neither_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n can_v make_v new_a article_n of_o faith_n barlow_n pag._n 181._o a_o foolish_a wrangle_n of_o m._n