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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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contradiction_n to_o any_o divine_a promise_n for_o god_n be_v faithful_a and_o therefore_o will_v restrain_v from_o every_o act_n that_o will_v render_v any_o promise_n void_a some_o supposition_n may_v be_v admit_v of_o but_o not_o such_o as_o be_v against_o promise_n otherwise_o we_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o a_o other_o himself_o suppose_v p._n 32._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n if_o the_o elder_n possible_o but_o two_o or_o three_o shall_v excommunicate_v that_o whole_a church_n they_o shall_v by_o this_o juridical_a act_n how_o un_fw-we just_a soever_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n mat._n 16._o 18._o as_o much_o as_o by_o his_o supposition_n the_o people_n shall_v nullify_v the_o promise_n about_o officer_n in_o such_o a_o case_n two_o or_o three_o elder_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o officer_n to_o it_o also_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o church_n &_o 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the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n bring_v against_o they_o some_o argument_n we_o use_v to_o prove_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 35._o den_n yes_o the_o major_a of_o our_o first_o syllogism_n but_o meddle_v not_o with_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o so_o it_o remain_v firm_a still_o to_o prove_v our_o minor_a we_o use_v this_o argument_n arg._n 1._o all_o that_o flock_n or_o church_n over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v a_o man_n a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n he_o be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o and_o sin_v if_o he_o do_v not_o but_o no_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la ob._n mr._n pool_n