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A14265 An ansvvere or admonition to those of the Church of Rome, touching the iubile, proclaimed by the bull, made and set foorth by Pope Clement the eyght, for the yeare of our Lord. 1600. Translated out of French; Aviso a los de la iglesia romana, sobre la indiccion de jubiléo, por la bulla del papa Clemente octavo. English Valera, Cipriano de, 1532?-1625. 1600 (1600) STC 24578.5; ESTC S116178 21,562 32

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men at this day speake of the faith of the Romaines Is it in Turkie Persia or Tartaria but is it in the places subiect to the Pope It may be by those that know neither faith nor religion but beleeue onely by heresie and as they themselues alleadge beleeue in the faith of their Vicar But all those that know what Rome is how they gouerne liue therein will say and affirme that it is not onely the Schole of Epicurisme but also of Atheisme despising of God his holy word the receptacle support of all wickednes But behold a right papal lodgick The faith of the Romaine christians in the time of S. Paul was cōmended through the world therfore the faith of those that dwel in Rome now is commended through all the world as if faith were successiue in them if the true faith did not make it self knowne by good works But for that corruption is a thing successiue in such as are not regenerate by the holy ghost we might better trulyer reason thus the corruptions intollerable vices Sodomy that raigned among the Romaine Panims were known to all the world So at this day such vices raigne in Rome not onely among the people but among the principall of this infernall Hirarchy are known through al the world Thē it is not there that we must search the faith of these first christians for it is wholy buried vnder the earth Nowe if such a consequent as this which the Pope alledgeth of the time past to the time present were receauable wee might saye as much of those that dwell in Thessalonia for Saint Paul giueth the like witnesse to those that liued in his time yea a greater then of those in Rome You haue been saith he patrons to all the beleeuers as well in Macedonia as in Achaia For the word of God hath not onely shined from you into Macedonia and Achaia but your faith which is in God is spread throughout all the world Beholde then reasons well grounded to maintaine the excellency and prerogatiue of Rome But beholde one which crowneth the worke that is that the most blessed Princes of the Apostles S. Peter and S. Paul haue shed all theyr doctrine with their bloudes to the ende that by meanes of S. Peters chayre being made the capitall Citry in the world it should be the Mother of all the beleeuers and Mistresse of all other Churches c. But if it should be denyed him how could he prooue it but onely that it pleased the Popes his predecefsors builders of this tyranny for with other proofe he could not furnish himselfe If the preaching of the Gospel with effusion of bloud could obtaine this dignity who knoweth not but that Ierusalem ought to bee preferred therein before all others considering the great prerogatiues that it had before ouer all the Citties in the world For that besides them the Prophets did therein Preach the word of God and likewise were therein stoned and put to death There Iesus Christ did Preach there hee was scourged beaten spit vpon and lastly put to death Saint Peter also and his companions were there beaten and holden in prison because they Preached Iesus Christ within the Citty there S. Stephen was stoned for the same occasion and S. Iames beheaded and the other S. Iames killed with clubbes this neuerthelesse gaue no aduantage to Jerusalem much lesse to Rome The Pope knoweth wel or else he ought to know how much this primacy hath bin debated betweene Popes Pelagius and Gregory Bishops of Rome and Iohn Bishop of Constantinople that Gregory condemned the vnmeasurable ambition of the said John and that the Bishops of Rome neuer obtained it vntill the time of Boniface the third who by the authority of the cruell tyraunt and parricide Phocas obtayned the tytle of the vniuersall Bishop and yet the Popes did not as then mount vp into so high a degree of soueraignetie as at this day they are For as it is found written in the first lesson that is Song vpon the first day of Nouember which beginneth Legimus which within a certaine time hath been gelded of certaine breuiaries Pope Boniface that was the fourth Pope after Gregory by petition obtained of the Emperour Phocas one of the Pagans Temples within Rome called the Pantheon which he dedicated to the Virgin Mary and to the Holy Mattirs whereby it appeareth that the Popes as then were not Lords of Rome to dispose of the Temples therein at their pleasure as at this day they doe So this Soueraigntye hath been a most vniust and more then tyrannicall vsurpation All that is added that there is the stone of fayth the fountaine of sacerdotall vnity c. It is to be vnderstood which S. Paul saith 2. Thessal 2. That this Sonne of perdition will come with all fraud of injustice in those that perish For all that no not the least point can be found within the Citty of Rome namely that which he sayth that it is the fountaine of sacerdotall vnity For besides that this Pontificats is an vsurped dignity contrary to the expresse ordinaunce of Iesus Christ tending rather to the ruine of the Church then to the conuersation thereof It is a totall destruction of the sacerdotall dignity of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ But where was this faire spring of sacerdotall vnity when scismes raigned in this church more thē in any other especially when there were two seates one at Rome the other at Auignon and then when there was not onely two Popes but many times three Shall we say that there is the sincere verity where the traditions of men are in the like yea in greater authority then the word of God There where those that shall haue transgressed the commaundements of that which they name the holy Mother Church shall be more grieuously punished then swearers and blasphemers of the sacred name of God there where the Pope vsurpeth the authority to dispence against the word of God He saith that there that is to say at Rome are the keies of the kingdome of Heauen and the power to binde and vnbinde but it is an vsurpation for this authority doth properly belong to all those that are called to the charge of preaching declaring the doctrine of the Gospell As also that which he addeth that the Pope is the dispensator of the treasors of the Church which can neuer be diminished For all the true and faithfull Pastors of the Church of God are the true dispensators of the Treasors of Iesus Christ And we must mark well that which S. Paul saith 1. Cor. 4. That it is requisite that such a dispensator should be faithfull but where shall this fidelity be found in Popes that sell that which they call the Treasors of the Church yea and all thinges both sacred and prophane for ready money True dispensation doth it consist in making a signe with two fingers to present the Pantable to kisse and to giue a