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A00283 A briefe and plaine declaration, concerning the desires of all those faithfull ministers, that haue and do seeke for the discipline and reformation of the Church of Englande which may serue for a iust apologie, against the false accusations and slaunders of their aduersaries. Fenner, Dudley, 1558?-1587, attributed name.; Fulke, William, 1538-1589, attributed name.; Travers, Walter, 1547 or 8-1635, attributed name. 1584 (1584) STC 10395; ESTC S111889 54,423 158

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we finde in the worde of God certayn Officers appoynted for gouernmente vvee are bolde to affirme that that charge belongeth vnto those that are such And that doth S. Paule playnely declare where hee putteth a difference of the seuerall offices of the Church whereof hee nameth Gouernors for one 1. Cor. 28. 29. and Rom. 12. 8. Let him that ruleth doe it with diligence Therefore there ought to be in euery Church a Consistory or segnorye of Elders or gouernors which ought to haue the hearinge examination and determining of all matters pertaining to Discipline and Gouernement of that Congregation which authoritye of theirs neuerthelesse ought to be moderated that their iudgment may be rightly accounted the iudgement of the holy Church Which thing consisteth in these two pointes First that the Elders bee elected and chosen by consent of the whole Congregation men of Godlinesse and Wisedome in whome the whole Churche reposeth such confidence that they commit vnto them their authoritye in hearing determining such matters as without horrible confusion they cānot perform themselues And hereto also may be referred that which is sayde of Election of Pastours that the Apostles Paul and Barnabas did ordain by Election of the congregation Elders vnto many Churches Actes 14. 23. because the name of Elders is common to both to Pastors and Gouernors and is vsed in the Scripture to comprehend both at once as it appeareth manifestly by S. Paul 1. Tim. 5. 7. Those Elders that gouern well are worthy of double honor especially those that labour in the word and doctrine Of which testimonie we learne these three things First that there bee Elders in the Church which meddle not with teaching but are occupied altogether in gouerning Secondly that the Elders which labor in teaching otherwise called Pastors are ioined also in gouernment with them which teach not And thirdlye that the name of Elder comprehendeth both sorts of Elders And especially in the place before alleadged for election ther is great reason to lead vs to think that the elders for gouernment are as wel vnderstood as the other for doctrin because it is writtē in the same place that after they had ordeined them Elders in euery congregation by election as hauing set the Churches in perfect order which could not be except thei had established discipline as wel as doctrine they cōmitted thē to the Lorde in whome they beleeued The second point for moderation of the elders authority in such sorte that their sentēce may be the sentēce of the Church is this that when the cōsistory hath traueled in examining of causes pertaining to Ecclesiasticall Discipline and agreed what iudgement ought to passe vpon the matters they propound it to the whole multitude that it may be confirmed by their consent Wherof S. Paul speaketh touching the execution of Excōmunication because the fact was manifest Whē you are gathered together with my spirit in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ and with the power of our Lord Iesus Christ to deliuer such a one vnto Sathan Nowe therfore to● prooue that there ought to be a Consistory of elders in euery Church for gouerning of the same It is manifest by the cōmandemēt of our Sauior Christ touching him that despiseth pryuate admonitiō If he hear not them tel the congregation if hee hear not the congregation let him be vnto thee as an heathē publicane Verily I say vnto you whatsoeuer you shall bind vpon earth shall be bound in heauen In which saying of our Sauiour Christ this worde Congregation is not so largely taken as in other places for the whole multitude but for the chosen assembly of elders For our sauiour Christ in that worde alludeth vnto the assembly of elders that was amōg the Iews which they called but corruptlie of a greeke worde Synedrion which signifieth a Counsell or Consistory Sanedrin which had the hearing and determining of all difficult and waightie matters among the Iews the like wherof hee willed to be established in his Churche for administration of gouernment For seeing it was first instituted by God for gouernement of his Church in the olde lawe as hath beene shewed before out of Num. 11. 6. although it was shamefully abused by the wicked Iewes our sauiour Christ trāslateth it into his Church also in the new Testament and the name of Elders doth moste aptlye agree vnto them that bee gouernours in the Church now euen as it did to the ancients of Israel so that the Pastors seme to haue borrowed the name of Elders speciallye in respect of their gouernment The name of this consistory also in the new Testament we finde to be agreable with that of the Iewes whereof our sauiour Christe speaketh when he sayth Tell the congregation or assembly S Paule 1. Tim. 4. 14. Dispise not the gift which was giuen thee thorough prophecie with imposition of handes of the Eldership where the greeke word is Presbyterion the assemblie or Consistorye of the Elders Which worde is vsed also by Saint Luke in his Gospell speaking of the consistory of the Iewish Elders Luke 22. 66. As soone as it was daye the whole Eldership or assemblie of Elders came togeather both chiefe Priestes and Scribes and brought him into their counsell In which saying their counsel Synedrion is called Presbyterion Also Saint Paule Act. 20. 5. that he had beene a persecutor of christians taketh witnesse of the high priest and of the whol consistory of Elders vsing the same word Presbyterion By which it is euident that our sauiour Christ by this word Ecclesia in that place meaneth a consistory or assemblye of Elders whose authoritie he doth ratifie with such power that whatsoeuer is bounde or loosed by them on earth in the feare of God and with heartie prayer the Lord will bring it to passe yea he him selfe will be in the middest of them as President of their counsell to direct their consultations to the glory of God and the profite of his owne Church Therefore in euery Church there ought to be a consistory of Elders or Gouernours which with the Pastor may take charge of Ecclesiasticall discipline and good order to bee obserued in the church to the punishment of vice and the aduauncement of true vertue These if they gouerne well as Saint Paule doth testifie are worthy of double honour both that honour which is due to Godly men and that which is due to good gouernours How necessarye it is that Discipline shoulde be in the Church to keepe men in awe from offending and to bring offenders to repentaunce to auoyde the infection of sinne within the Church and the reproche that groweth by neglecting the punnishment of sinne among them that are without the Church We thinke it needlesse to stande long in proouing the matter of it selfe is so apparaunt and hath such plentifull testimonies in the scripture And especially let the reasons of Saint Paule 1. Cor. 5.
affirme with the Papistes that Sacraments confer grace of the work wrought and that the sacrament of baptisme is a sacrament of such necessity that whosoeuer is not dipped in water must be eternally condemned Which hereticall opinion as we haue hissed out in our profession and preaching so is it a great shame for vs to maintain by such corrupt vsage of Christes holy sacramentes Let vs therefore reteine this principle that the administration of the sacraments is a part of the pastors duety for although the office of preaching bee more excellent then of ministration of the sacraments as S. Paul speaketh comparatiuely Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach 1. Cor. 1. 17. Yet they are of such affinitie that the accessory cannot be seperated from the principall thereof For where is no preacher of the worde ther ought to be no minister of the Sacramentes Furthermore it pertaineth to the dutie of the pastor to make prayers as Act. 16. 16. not onely priuate as all men are bound to doe but also publike prayers in the name of the whol Church Act. 6. 4. 1. Timot. 2. 1. being the mouth thereof For whereas the spirit of God commandeth al things to be done in decent and comely order and forbiddeth all confusion and disorder As it were great confusiō vncomelines for euery man to make his seuerall praiers in the publike assemblies so is it orderly for one to pronounce the praier in the name of the rest and the rest to pray with him in silence to answer Amē It is also decēt that he which is the shepherd should go before the sheep in praier the sheepe to follow him in lifting vp of their harts in mutuall consent Moreouer for asmuch as preaching and administration of the sacramēts ought not to bee vsed without publique prayers as it is the Pastors office to preache and minister the Sacraments so is it his duety also to go before his flocke in publique prayers But heere we haue to obserue two things the first that as it perteineth to the Pastor to conceiue publique praiers so it is the duty of the whole Church in the name of the whole Church to ioyne in hart with the pastor in the same praiers that they knowing and vnderstanding what he hath praied may at the end giue ther consent by answering Amen Wherin their is great abuse in our Churches For as though it weare notinough to keepe out preaching by longe prescribed formes of praier these praiers are so pronounced by the minister that a great number some not of the worst disposed people thinck it perteineth not to them to giue eare or consent of mind vnto them We speake not here of such insensible Readers whose voyce eyther cannot be heard or else cannot be vnderstood wherof there be great numbers nor of the vnfit place prescribed for the ministers standing at prayer in the east ende of the house whē the simple people shal stand oftētimes 40. or 50. yards of in the west ende or of the confusion of voyces whilest all speake at once besides scrines of roode-lofts Organe lofts Idoll cages otherwise called Chauntrie Chappelles and high pewes betweene them which although they do manifestly hinder edifycation yet may they not be remooued in many places for defacing the beauty of the materiall houses whereas S. Paule so much estemeth the building of gods spirituall house that he commaundeth the glorious giftes of the holye Ghost to cease in the congregation when they do not helpe to edification But we speake of this that a great multitude thinke they haue wel serued God if they haue been present at common prayers or anye part of them as they were wont to thinke in popery although they bee neuer so vainly occupyed in the Church some in walking some in talking in gathering of money not onely for the poore but for other contributions c. And they that thinke they doe best are occupyed in their priuate praiers or in reading of books while their minister pronounceth publique praiers Thus as preaching is neglected vppon colour of publique prayers So publique prayers by priuate exercises are made altogether vnprofitable to a great number For who knoweth the right vse of publique prayer but they that are taught by the word of God Let vs therfore establish publique preaching and publique prayers will follow of necessitie But if we continue to vpholde formal praiers that preaching bee neglected it will come to passe that neither shall be regarded For what did thrust out preaching from the Romishe Church but long prescript formes of reading of singing of praying so that their ordinarye was ynough and to much to occupye the whole daye though there were no sermon wheras contrariwise there woulde be no ordinarie publique prayer without preaching Which terrible example of the practize of Sathan in the man of sinne shoulde make vs afrayde to giue any like occasion of such inconuenience hereafter to come For is not this opinion already growen into a great manye mens heades that the seruice maye not giue place to a sermon no though the time be not sufficient for both And are ther not many that had much rather heare a chaunted Mattens and Euensong then a godly learned sermon Yea they frequent the one and refuse the other Let Cathedral Churches c. be an example where you shall see a great number that tarrye while the seruice is songe but depart so soone as the Sermon beginneth While the Organes pipe some are drawen with the sweetnes of musike to come vp but while the preacher cryeth out continue beneath and in laughter or brawling be lowder then he oftentimes So that which was wont to be sayd of the Masse Missa non mordet the masse was a gentle beast and did bite no man and therfore was so well beloued of manye may rightly be verified of our ordinary seruice For therefore a great number can so well away with it because it doth not sharpely reprooue them of theire sinnes nor disclose the secreates of their heartes but that they maye continue still in all kinde of voluptuousnes and al other kind of wickednes Wheras by preaching their conscience is gauled ther wickednes and hipocrisy discouered their damnation threatned they are called to repentaunce and forsaking of their pleasant sinnes and to holynesse and innocencie of life So that if there be any sparke of the feare of God in them hearing preaching so often as they vse to heare seruice they will fall downe on their faces worship God acknowledging the great power of God in his ministers 1. Cor. 14. 15. But that they cannot away with all beeing like vnto Felix the liefetenaunt of the Romanes in Iewrie Who when he heard Paule a poore prysoner that stoode before him bound in chaines preaching of righteousnes of temperaunce and of the iudgement to come he was wearie of him because he was a great oppressour and an
together with the whole multitude Actes 15. And as they are seuered in place so will they bee higher in authoritie So that whatsoeuer is decreed amongest them that must bee called the determynation of the whole Synode So that no manne muste bee suffered to speake anye thinge agaynste it bee it neuer so reasonable or agreeable to the vvorde of GOD yea vvhosoeuer vvill not subscribe to all suche thinges as they decree muste bee excluded out of the Conuocation as vvas practized and threatened in the Conuocation at the foresayde Parliamente vnto diuerse Godlye and learned Preachers that offered to speake agaynste dyuerse grosse and palpable erroures that had escaped the Byshoppes decrees As for the distinction of Canonicall and Apocriphall bookes for explication of the clause in the article of Predestination where it is sayde that the elect may fall from Grace and such like matters If this bee not to practise Lordshippe ouer our faith to set downe decrees of Religion which must bee accepted of all men without eyther reason or testimony of the Scripture to prooue them and no man permitted to shew anye reason or Scripture that inforceth his Conscience to the contrarye but onely to hang vppon the authority of bishops Let some other declare what Paul meaneth 2. Cor. 1. 4. where he denieth that he woulde excercise any Lordship ouer the faith of the Corinthians For although their decrees were neuer so perfect yet it were an example of tyrannicall Dominion neither to giue reasons to satisfie the ignoraunt them selues nor to hear or cōfute that which might be alleaged against them by others but for a few lordbishops in comparison of all the conuocation to sit by them selues order all thinges at their pleasures as though the Gospell sprang firste from them or had come vnto them only it sauoreth of nothing so much as of popish tyranny Whereas otherwise it is well knowne they are not al of the best learned nor all of longest study nor all of soundest iudgement nor all of greatest zeale nor all of best example and therfore not meetest to be the onely determiners in Ecclesiasticall matters to the preiudice of the whole synode Wherefore it is greatly to be desired that our synodes also which are so farre out of order maye be refourmed according to the scripture and the example of the primitiue Church that all thinges may be done with such modesty grauitie iudgement as they were by the Apostles and Elders Act. 15. And now that we haue set forth the whole Ecclesiasticall ministerye according to the word of God with all the duties authoritie that pertayneth vnto it the place requyreth that we should also intreat of the authority of the ciuil Magistrate in matters ecclesiastical Of the title of the princes supremacie if it be truly vnderstood we moue no contronersie but that it doth properly apperteine to the ciuil magistrat to be the highest gouernor of al persons within his dominion so that the soueraign Empyre of God be kept whol But herein resteth all the doubt howe this is truely to be vnderstoode that shal we best vnderstand by the contrarie namely by the vsurped tiranny of antichrist For antichrist did challenge vnto himselfe al authority both that which is proper to god that which is cōmon to men Therefore that the pope claimed to be that only head of the church frō which the whol body receiued direction was kept in vnity of faith This was blasphemous against Christ therfore may not be vsurped by any Ciuill magistrate no more thē by the pope Likewise wher hee challengeth authoritye to alter change dispence with the cōmandement of god to make new articles of faith to ordain new sacramēts c. this is also blasphemous and ought not to be vsurped of any ciuil prince On the other side where he challengeth authority ouer all princes so ouer al the clergy that he did exempt them from the ciuil iurisdiction this is contumelious iniurious against al christian kings And therfore euery prince in his own dominiō ought to cast off the yoke of his subiection and to bring al ecclesiastical persons vnto his obedience and iurisdiction Here haue we the first part of the title of supreame gouernment ouer al persons In matter or causes ecclesiastical likewise the pope doth not only presume against god as we said before but also against the lawfull authority giuen by God vnto men For he forbiddeth princes to medle with reformation of Ecclesiasticall matters or to make anye lawes pertayning to causes of religion answering them that those things do appertain onlye to him the general counsel But when he cōmeth to debate anye thing with his clergy then al laws knowledge are enclosed in the closet of his brest When any generall counsel must be holden all that they doe receiueth authoritie from him For except he doe allowe it is nothing And he is so wyse that neyther with the councell nor without the counsell he can erre or thinke amisse in matters Ecclesiasticall wheras it is not onely lawful but also necessary for Princesse if they will doe their dutie to looke to the reformation of religion and to make lawes of matters Ecclesiasticall but so that we confounde not the offices of the Prince and the Pastour Eor as it is not lawfull for the Prince to preach nor administer the Sacramentes no more is it lawfull for him to make lawes in Ecclesiastical causes contrarie to the knowledge of his learned Pastors For as these three partes of a pastors dutie are graunted to him by God preaching ministring of sacraments and Ecclesiasticall gouernment he maye no more take from a Pastor the third then he may the two first By this it appeareth how farre it is lawful for Princes to intermedle with causes Ecclesiasticall namelye that it is the chiefest poynt of their dutie to haue especiall regarde that God may be glorified in their dominion and therefore they ought to make ciuill lawes to binde the people vnto the confession of true faith and the right administring and receiuing of the sacramentes and to all ecclesiastical orders that they beeing instructed by the worde of God thorow the ministerie of the preaching of the same shall vnderstande to bee profitable for edifying of the church of Christe and the aduauncement of the glory of God If any shall offende against the laws whether he be preacher or hearer beside the ecclesiasticall censure which he shoulde not escape he is also to be punished in bodye by the ciuill magistrate This we see that all christian Emperours obserued that when anye controuersie arose either of doctrine or of order and ceremonies they commaunded the Cleargie to consult determine thereof according to the scripture who assembling togeather incounsel obeyed their commandement Their conclusion then by authoritie of the Emperour was commaunded euerye where to be obserued and those that impugned it to be punished the same order we