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and_o pestilent_a error_n the_o lord_n make_v we_o thankful_a for_o his_o infinite_a mercy_n and_o singular_a goodness_n bestow_v upon_o we_o in_o thus_o long_o continue_v his_o gospel_n preserve_v our_o most_o gracious_a and_o love_a queen_n and_o overthrow_v all_o the_o conspiracy_n and_o devise_n that_o the_o devil_n have_v hitherto_o invent_v to_o molest_v this_o state_n and_o church_n ¶_o a_o note_n of_o such_o dangerous_a point_n of_o doctrine_n as_o be_v avouch_v by_o t._n c._n in_o his_o reply_n and_o quote_v as_o they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o this_o book_n he_o say_v that_o certain_a of_o the_o thing_n which_o we_o stand_v upon_o be_v such_o as_o if_o every_o hear_v of_o out_o head_n be_v a_o life_n we_o ought_v to_o afford_v they_o for_o the_o defence_n of_o they_o whereby_o he_o will_v insinuate_v that_o this_o church_n of_o england_n do_v maintain_v some_o damnable_a doctrine_n pag._n 44._o 2_o he_o say_v that_o if_o the_o church_n be_v consider_v in_o the_o whole_a and_o general_a government_n and_o outward_a policy_n of_o it_o it_o may_v be_v pure_a and_o unspotted_a which_o smell_v of_o a_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n pag._n 50._o 3_o he_o affirm_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v both_o command_v and_o forbid_v of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o express_a mention_n in_o the_o word_n which_o be_v as_o necessary_o to_o be_v follow_v or_o avoid_v as_o those_o whereof_o express_a mention_n be_v make_v which_o sound_v to_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o very_a foundation_n of_o all_o papistry_n pag._n 77._o 4_z he_z holdeth_z that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o free_a will_n be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o salvation_n and_o yet_o be_v it_o a_o doctrine_n clean_o contrary_a to_o free_a justification_n by_o christ_n pag._n 82._o 5_z he_o say_v that_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v needful_a for_o our_o salvation_n which_o be_v a_o notorious_a error_n pag._n 103._o 6_z he_o utter_o deny_v that_o any_o magistrate_n can_v fave_v the_o life_n of_o blasphemer_n contemptuous_a and_o stubborn_a i_o dolater_n
murderer_n abulterer_n incestuous_a person_n and_o such_o like_a which_o god_n by_o his_o indiciall_a law_n have_v command_v to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n whereby_o he_o bind_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o the_o observe_n of_o the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n and_o condemn_v this_o state_n &_o government_n now_o use_v in_o this_o realm_n of_o england_n of_o manifest_a impiety_n pag._n 120._o 7_z he_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o drunkard_n nor_o whoremonger_n at_o the_o least_o which_o be_v know_v which_o assertion_n tend_v to_o anabaptisme_n pag._n 176._o 8_o he_o say_v that_o what_o socuer_v apparel_n the_o magistrate_n command_v the_o minister_n to_o wear_v the_o commandment_n can_v not_o be_v without_o some_o injury_n do_v to_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v to_o debar_v the_o magistrate_n from_o appoint_v any_o kind_n of_o apparel_n to_o minister_n pag._n 265._o 9_o he_o say_v that_o those_o ministery_n without_o the_o which_o the_o church_n be_v full_o build_v &_o bring_v to_o periection_n and_o complete_a unity_n be_v not_o to_o be_v retain_v in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o very_a dangerous_a assertion_n and_o may_v give_v occasion_n of_o diverse_a error_n pag._n 307._o 10_o he_o hold_v that_o it_o be_v more_o safe_a for_o we_o to_o conforinc_fw-la our_o indifferent_a ceremonse_n to_o the_o turk_n which_o be_v far_o of_o than_o to_o the_o papist_n which_o be_v so_o near_o which_o can_v not_o be_v so_o for_o the_o turk_n utter_o deny_v chryst_n and_o be_v void_a of_o all_o christian_a ceremony_n pag._n 475._o 11_z he_o affirm_v that_o not_o only_o the_o dignity_n but_o also_o the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n depend_v upon_o this_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o no_o that_o do_v the_o minister_v it_o which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a then_o be_v there_o number_n not_o baptize_v that_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v baptize_v &_o it_o must_v of_o necessity_n follow_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o 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the_o ground_n of_o anabaptisme_n pag._n 566._o 15_o he_o doubt_v whither_o he_o may_v call_v he_o minister_v or_o no_o that_o can_v not_o preach_v which_o be_v join_v with_o his_o former_a assertion_n that_o the_o minister_n be_v of_o the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n ▪_o it_o will_v fall_v out_o that_o he_o count_v all_o those_o not_o baptize_v which_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o any_o other_o than_o by_o preacher_n pag._n 568_o and._n 583._o 16_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v of_o this_o judgement_n that_o only_o those_o which_o be_v of_o the_o family_n of_o god_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v a_o dangerous_a error_n for_o not_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v be_v of_o the_o family_n of_o god_n pag._n 621._o 17_o he_o seclude_v the_o child_n of_o excommunicate_a person_n and_o of_o process_v papist_n from_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n until_o they_o be_v able_a to_o make_v a_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n which_o smell_v very_o strong_o of_o anabaptisme_n and_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a error_n pag._n 622._o 18_o he_o say_v that_o prince_n must_v remember_v to_o subject_n themselves_o unto_o the_o church_n to_o submit_v their_o sceptre_n to_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n and_o to_o lick_v the_o dust_n of_o the_o foot_z of_o the_o church_n and_o by_o the_o church_n he_o mean_v the_o presbytery_n and_o eldership_n so_o that_o he_o will_v have_v prince_n in_o as_o great_a bondage_n to_o his_o senior_n as_o ever_o they_o be_v to_o the_o pope_n pag._n 645._o 19_o he_o say_v pag._n 646._o that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n must_v be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n even_o as_o the_o hang_n to_o the_o house_n and_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v aristocratical_a or_o popular_fw-la and_o therefore_o his_o opinion_n must_v needs_o be_v that_o no_o government_n of_o any_o common_a wealth_n ought_v to_o be_v monarchical_a but_o either_o aristocratical_a 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sacrament_n that_o can_v preach_v 4_o sacrament_n minister_v in_o private_a pla_fw-la ces_fw-fr 511._o etc._n etc._n doctrine_n tend_v to_o the_o derogation_n of_o sacrament_n 524_o necessity_n of_o salvation_n not_o tie_v too_o sacrament_n 52_o 5_o 4_o the_o life_n of_o sacrament_n depend_v not_o of_o preach_v 566_o every_o one_o must_v apply_v the_o sacrament_n to_o himself_o 601_o the_o sacrament_n pure_o minister_v pag._n 606_o sacrament_n receyve_v the_o name_n of_o thing_n signify_v 608_o what_o be_v require_v to_o the_o make_n of_o a_o sacrament_n 618_o the_o proper_a signification_n of_o sacrament_n 618_o outward_a sacrament_n give_v not_o grace_n pag._n 73_o sacramental_a sign_n 738_o every_o thing_n signify_v be_v not_o a_o sacrament_n 291._o 617._o 618_o ¶_o saint_n day_n 543._o etc._n etc._n why_o the_o name_n of_o saint_n be_v give_v to_o our_o lydaye_n 543_o ¶_o saunders_n &_o the_o reply_o agree_v 695_o ¶_o scevola_n 708_o scarce_o the_o face_n of_o a_o church_n what_o 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church_n consent_n shall_v be_v have_v in_o the_o election_n of_o apostolical_a t._n c._n urge_v the_o apostolical_a form_n and_o yet_o bring_v in_o that_o which_o be_v not_o apostolical_a the_o minister_n etc._n etc._n but_o how_o shall_v we_o know_v that_o you_o mean_v as_o you_o speak_v for_o you_o have_v no_o warrant_n so_o to_o do_v in_o any_o apostolical_a election_n or_o in_o any_o form_n use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n wherefore_o either_o you_o must_v break_v that_o rule_n which_o you_o will_v have_v both_o to_o be_v perfect_a and_o perpetual_a for_o all_o time_n and_o state_n or_o else_o do_v you_o but_o dissemble_v with_o the_o magistrate_n and_o mind_n nothing_o less_o than_o that_o you_o say_v you_o will_v do_v but_o as_o good_a never_o a_o whit_n as_o never_o a_o deal_n the_o better_a for_o the_o magistrate_n must_v c._n the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o devise_n of_o t._n c._n confirm_v they_o or_o reject_v they_o if_o he_o be_v godly_a and_o take_v not_o from_o the_o 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the_o archbishop_n office_n and_o therefore_o all_o this_o that_o you_o have_v here_o say_v fall_v flat_a to_o the_o ground_n and_o yet_o still_o i_o do_v affirm_v that_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v so_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n yet_o may_v it_o have_v be_v both_o lawful_o and_o necessary_o at_o other_o time_n chap._n 3._o the._n 22._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 80._o sect._n 1_o at_o antioch_n there_o rise_v a_o great_a &_o dangerous_a heresy_n that_o have_v in_o a_o manner_n infect_v all_o the_o church_n which_o shake_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o god_n childen_a that_o be_v whether_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a to_o justify_v without_o circumcision_n the_o matter_n be_v dispute_v of_o both_o side_n it_o can_v not_o be_v agree_v of_o what_o do_v they_o now_o do_v they_o ordain_v some_o archbishop_n archprophet_n archapostle_n or_o any_o one_o chief_a to_o who_o they_o will_v refer_v the_o coutroversie_n or_o upon_o who_o they_o will_v depend_v nothing_o 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archbishop_n of_o himself_o alone_o do_v not_o take_v upon_o 〈◊〉_d supr_fw-la divi_z 〈◊〉_d he_o to_o determine_v matter_n of_o doctrine_n in_o controversy_n but_o if_o any_o such_o contention_n arise_v either_o he_o determine_v the_o matter_n according_a to_o the_o law_n &_o rule_v already_o by_o the_o church_n establish_v or_o else_o with_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o prince_n do_v he_o set_v a_o order_n in_o the_o same_o by_o a_o provincial_a and_o lawful_a synod_n in_o the_o which_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a as_o some_o one_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v in_o such_o like_a assembly_n according_a to_o that_o which_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v &_o therefore_o all_o this_o speech_n may_v well_o have_v be_v spare_v your_o argument_n also_o be_v faulty_a in_o two_o respect_n first_o it_o be_v ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la negatiuè_fw-fr or_o à _fw-la non_fw-la facto_fw-la ad_fw-la non_fw-la ius_fw-la which_o be_v good_a neque_fw-la in_o divinis_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o humanis_fw-la neither_o 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rest_n to_o supply_v that_o place_n and_o office_n which_o now_o the_o archbishop_n have_v chap._n 3._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 80._o sect._n 2._o and_o if_o any_o can_v show_v i_o one_o man_n in_o these_o time_n of_o who_o we_o may_v be_v assure_v that_o he_o will_v pronounce_v gentleness_n the_o archbishop_n have_v 〈◊〉_d to_o thank_v you_o for_o your_o gentleness_n the_o truth_n of_o every_o question_n which_o shall_v arise_v he_o shall_v make_v i_o somewhat_o more_o favourable_a to_o the_o archbishop_n than_o present_o i_o be_o for_o although_o there_o be_v find_v one_o such_o as_o can_v not_o err_v yet_o i_o can_v not_o consent_v that_o the_o matter_n shall_v lie_v only_o upon_o his_o hand_n see_v that_o the_o apostle_n which_o can_v not_o err_v in_o these_o matter_n will_v not_o take_v that_o upon_o they_o &_o see_v that_o by_o that_o mean_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v contemn_v and_o further_o for_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o one_o man_n 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error_n theodorete_n therefore_o mean_v heresy_n he_o mean_v not_o hypocrisy_n there_o be_v not_o one_o heretic_n in_o all_o his_o bishopric_n he_o do_v not_o say_v one_o hypocrite_n or_o evil_a man_n so_o that_o you_o be_v far_o wide_a and_o do_v theodorete_a double_a injury_n for_o you_o do_v both_o slander_v he_o and_o misconstrue_v he_o chap._n 3._o the._n 68_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 89._o sect._n 3_o now_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v what_o great_a likelihood_n there_o be_v between_o this_o theodoret_n and_o our_o lord_n bishop_n and_o archbishop_n it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v which_o he_o write_v of_o himself_o in_o the_o epistle_n unto_o leo_n that_o be_v that_o he_o have_v be_v 26._o year_n bishop_n be_v know_v of_o all_o those_o that_o dwell_v in_o those_o part_n that_o he_o have_v never_o house_n of_o his_o own_o nor_o field_n nor_o halfepenn_v e_o not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o place_n to_o be_v bury_v in_o but_o have_v willing_o content_v himself_o with_o a_o poor_a 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3._o 4._o baptism_n be_v minister_v in_o cornelius_n house_n act_n 10._o the_o place_n be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o the._n 1._o cor._n ii_o it_o be_v answer_v before_o sure_o this_o church_n of_o england_n house_n baptism_n a_o house_n do_v not_o permit_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v minister_v in_o private_a place_n except_o there_o be_v a_o congregation_n and_o then_o not_o usual_o but_o only_o in_o certain_a case_n t._n c._n pag._n 112._o sect._n 1_o an_o other_o reason_n he_o add_v there_o that_o s._n peter_n baptize_v in_o cornelius_n house_n but_o m._n doctor_n make_v not_o the_o best_a choice_n of_o his_o argument_n for_o s._n paul_n baptise_v in_o the_o house_n of_o the_o jailer_n have_v be_v more_o fit_a for_o he_o for_o unto_o his_o place_n it_o may_v be_v easy_o answer_v that_o cornelius_n have_v so_o great_a a_o family_n as_o it_o be_v like_a he_o have_v and_o besides_o that_o dyvers_a soldier_n underneathe_o he_o and_o further_o his_o 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abuse_n be_v grow_v in_o some_o place_n in_o the_o time_n of_o hierome_n and_o damasus_n about_o who_o time_n this_o sick_a the_o communion_n minister_v to_o the_o sick_a council_n be_v but_o there_o be_v neither_o council_n nor_o learned_a father_n that_o ever_o open_v their_o mouth_n against_o minister_a the_o communion_n to_o the_o sick_a in_o pryvate_a family_n or_o upon_o any_o other_o urgente_a or_o necessary_a occasion_n the_o canon_n the_o in_o the_o greek_a it_o be_v the._n 13._o canon_n 12._o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a do_v determine_v direct_o that_o the_o communion_n ought_v to_o be_v minister_v to_o the_o sick_a chap._n 6._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 116._o lin._n 12._o beside_o therefore_o that_o i_o have_v before_o show_v the_o unlawfulnesse_n general_o of_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n in_o private_a place_n see_v that_o the_o custom_n of_o minister_a this_o supper_n unto_o the_o sick_a rose_z upon_o corrupt_a cause_n and_o rot_a foundation_n 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bishop_n telesphorus_n a_o good_a bishop_n supper_n of_o the_o lord_n gloria_fw-la in_o excelsis_fw-la in_o the_o year_n of_o the_o lord_n 130._o be_v a_o good_a bishop_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v as_o yet_o pure_a in_o doctrine_n and_o unspotted_a with_o heresy_n io._n whitgifte_n no_o answer_n to_o one_o whit_n of_o all_o this_o chap._n 1._o the._n 19_o division_n admonition_n the_o ten_o they_o take_v it_o with_o conscience_n we_o with_o custom_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 102._o sect._n 3._o 4._o this_o be_v but_o your_o presumptuous_a and_o arrogant_a judgement_n who_o dare_v take_v upon_o you_o to_o give_v this_o general_a sentence_n so_o general_o upon_o this_o whole_a church_n of_o england_n for_o you_o make_v no_o exception_n but_o set_v we_o ad_fw-la oppositum_fw-la to_o they_o if_o you_o say_v some_o take_v it_o without_o conscience_n i_o think_v you_o say_v true_o and_o so_o do_v some_o of_o they_o as_o judas_n but_o if_o you_o say_v all_o or_o the_o most_o part_n you_o go_v beyond_o your_o commission_n and_o make_v yourselves_o judge_n of_o other_o man_n conscience_n contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ._n mat._n 7._o luke_n 6._o and_o of_o paul_n rom._n 2._o and._n 14._o 1._o cor._n 4._o and_o of_o james._n 4._o t._n c._n pag._n 132._o sect._n 3_o when_o as_o many_o receyve_v they_o know_v not_o what_o some_o other_o without_o any_o examination_n either_o of_o then selue_o or_o by_o other_o how_o they_o come_v with_o what_o faith_n in_o christ_n with_o what_o love_n towards_o their_o brethren_n i_o see_v not_o against_o what_o rule_n of_o our_o faviour_n christ_n it_o be_v or_o what_o rash_a judgement_n to_o say_v that_o they_o come_v rather_o of_o custom_n than_o of_o conscience_n when_o neither_o they_o speak_v general_o of_o all_o nor_o singular_o of_o any_o one_o particular_a person_n io._n whitgifte_n general_o to_o charge_v the_o whole_a church_n with_o that_o which_o be_v but_o the_o fault_n of_o some_o and_o 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church_n neither_o have_v i_o write_v one_o word_n tend_v to_o that_o end_n but_o this_o i_o say_v again_o whether_o the_o apostle_n mean_v one_o ruler_n in_o every_o congregation_n or_o mo_z be_v not_o here_o determine_v and_o i_o see_v no_o cause_n as_o i_o have_v say_v why_o in_o this_o place_n of_o the_o apostle_n this_o word_n governor_n may_v not_o either_o signify_v the_o christian_a magistrate_n o_o ecclesiastical_a as_o archbishop_n bishop_n or_o whatsoever_o other_o by_o lawful_a authority_n be_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o reason_n to_o be_v show_v why_o he_o shall_v rather_o mean_v your_o senior_n than_o any_o other_o magistrate_n sure_o i_o be_o that_o there_o be_v learn_v man_n which_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o word_n do_v comprehend_v ecclesiae_fw-la
point_n wherein_o the_o question_n especial_o lie_v which_o be_v whether_o this_o function_n be_v perpetual_a and_o aught_o to_o remain_v always_o in_o the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o the_o way_n that_o whereas_o there_o be_v dyvers_a sort_n of_o adversary_n to_o this_o discipline_n o_o the_o church_n m._n doctor_n be_v among_o the_o worst_a for_o there_o be_v that_o say_v that_o this_o order_n may_v be_v use_v or_o not_o use_v now_o at_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n but_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o this_o order_n be_v not_o for_o these_o time_n but_o only_o for_o those_o time_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrate_n and_o so_o do_v flat_o pinch_n at_o those_o church_n which_o have_v christian_n magistrate_n yet_o notwithstanding_o retain_v this_o order_n still_o io._n whitgifte_n i_o say_v so_o still_o and_o i_o be_o able_a to_o defend_v my_o say_n against_o all_o that_o you_o have_v show_v to_o the_o contrary_n and_o yet_o do_v i_o not_o pinch_n at_o any_o church_n that_o use_v it_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o so_o that_o they_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n who_o may_v if_o he_o will_v depart_v from_o his_o right_n &_o abridge_v himself_o of_o the_o authority_n commit_v unto_o he_o by_o god_n but_o he_o need_v not_o so_o do_v except_o he_o listen_v and_o whether_o it_o be_v well_o do_v or_o no_o i_o will_v not_o determine_v this_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v of_o that_o in_o a_o monarchy_n &_o in_o a_o kingdom_n such_o as_o this_o realm_n of_o england_n be_v it_o can_v not_o be_v practise_v without_o untollerable_a contention_n &_o extreme_a confusion_n except_o you_o can_v devise_v to_o make_v every_o several_a parish_n a_o kingdom_n within_o itself_o and_o exempt_v it_o from_o all_o ecclestastical_a &_o civil_a jurisdiction_n of_o prince_n prelate_n &_o whosoever_o which_o undoubted_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v your_o seek_v as_o will_v appear_v hereafter_o chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 139._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 140._o sect._n 1_o and_o to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o distinction_n which_o be_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v senior_n or_o ancient_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n &_o not_o of_o peace_n under_o tyrant_n &_o not_o under_o christian_n magistrate_n may_v appear_v the_o cause_n why_o these_o senior_n or_o ancient_n be_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v which_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v to_o be_v for_o that_o the_o pastor_n not_o be_v able_a to_o oversee_v all_o himself_o &_o to_o have_v his_o eye_n in_o every_o corner_n of_o the_o church_n &_o place_n where_o y_o e_o churches_n abode_n may_v be_v help_v of_o the_o ancient_n wherein_o the_o wonderful_a love_n of_o god_n towards_o his_o church_n do_v manifest_o appear_v that_o for_o the_o great_a assurance_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o he_o do_v not_o content_v himself_o to_o appoint_v one_o only_a ourseer_n of_o every_o church_n but_o many_o over_o every_o church_n and_o therefore_o see_v that_o the_o pastor_n be_v now_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n not_o able_a to_o oversee_v all_o himself_o nor_o his_o eye_n can_v not_o be_v in_o every_o place_n of_o the_o parish_n present_a to_o behold_v the_o behaviour_n of_o the_o people_n it_o follow_v that_o as_o well_o now_o as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n as_o well_o under_o a_o christian_n prince_n as_o under_o a_o tyrant_n the_o office_n of_o a_o ancient_a or_o senior_n be_v require_v onlesse_a you_o will_v say_v that_o god_n have_v less_o care_n of_o his_o church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o under_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n than_o he_o have_v in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n and_o under_o a_o tyrant_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o say_v there_o may_v be_v senior_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_n magistrate_n not_o that_o there_o aught_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v god_n have_v provide_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o other_o gonernour_n to_o punish_v and_o to_o correct_v vice_n and_o other_o disorder_n in_o the_o church_n who_o have_v his_o officer_n and_o deputy_n in_o every_o place_n for_o that_o purpose_n neither_o may_v the_o pastor_n or_o any_o other_o to_o who_o that_o charge_n be_v not_o commit_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n usurp_v that_o office_n unto_o themselves_o wherefore_o that_o cause_n by_o you_o allege_v be_v no_o cause_n at_o all_o why_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o such_o senior_n where_o there_o be_v christian_n magistrate_n neither_o be_v that_o kind_n of_o government_n any_o part_n of_o the_o pastor_n charge_n the_o pastor_n if_o he_o be_v a_o meet_a man_n be_v able_a to_o o_o all_o that_o that_o be_v require_v of_o a_o pastor_n else_o may_v it_o be_v say_v which_o you_o before_o deny_v that_o god_n appoint_v office_n &_o function_n and_o give_v not_o sufficient_a gift_n to_o execute_v &_o do_v they_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v say_v that_o god_n have_v esse_fw-la care_n of_o his_o church_n when_o he_o place_v civil_a and_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o the_o stead_n of_o senior_n than_o when_o he_o place_v senior_n and_o leave_v it_o destitute_a of_o christian_a mastrate_n for_o one_o of_o the_o most_o ingular_a benefit_n that_o god_n bestow_v on_o his_o church_n in_o this_o world_n be_v that_o he_o give_v unto_o it_o christian_n king_n &_o prince_n from_o who_o office_n and_o authority_n whosoever_o do_v detract_v and_o withdraw_v we_o any_o thing_n iniuri_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o show_v himself_o unthankful_a for_o so_o great_a a_o benefit_n chap._n 2._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 140._o sect._n 1_o in_o deed_n if_o so_o be_v the_o auncientes_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n &_o under_o a_o tyrant_n have_v meddle_v with_o any_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n or_o have_v supply_v the_o room_n of_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n in_o handle_v of_o any_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v unto_o he_o than_o there_o have_v be_v some_o cause_n why_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n be_v i_o the_o church_n the_o office_n of_o the_o senior_n or_o at_o the_o least_o so_o much_o as_o he_o exercise_v of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n shall_v have_v cease_v but_o when_o as_o the_o ancient_a neither_o do_v nor_o by_o any_o manner_n may_v meddle_v with_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v unto_o a_o magistrate_n no_o more_o under_o a_o tyrant_n than_o under_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o magistrate_n enter_v into_o the_o church_n the_o elder_a shall_v be_v therefore_o thrust_v out_o scripture_n out_o where_o find_v you_o this_o in_o all_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o elder_n office_n be_v to_o admonish_v several_o those_o that_o do_v amiss_o to_o comfort_v those_o which_o he_o see_v weak_a and_o shake_a and_o to_o have_v need_n of_o comfort_n to_o assist_v the_o pastor_n in_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n of_o reprehension_n sharp_a or_o mild_a as_o the_o fault_n require_v also_o to_o assist_v in_o the_o suspention_n from_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n until_o some_o trial_n be_v have_v of_o the_o repentance_n of_o that_o party_n which_o have_v confess_v himself_o to_o have_v offend_v or_o else_o if_o he_o remain_v stubborn_a to_o assist_v he_o in_o the_o excommunication_n these_o be_v those_o thing_n which_o the_o elder_a do_v which_o for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o may_v do_v as_o well_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n as_o under_o a_o tyrant_n as_o well_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n it_o follow_v that_o as_o touch_v the_o office_n of_o elder_n there_o be_v no_o distinction_n in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o persecution_n of_o a_o christian_n prince_n and_o of_o a_o tyrant_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o will_v glad_o know_v by_o what_o place_n of_o scripture_n you_o can_v i_o stifie_v this_o office_n that_o you_o matter_n the_o office_n ascri_fw-la ed_z to_z senior_n 〈◊〉_d the_o gistrate_n o_o his_o authoriti_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n here_o appoint_v unto_o senior_n in_o so_o weighty_a a_o matter_n in_o my_o judgement_n you_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v use_v some_o authority_n of_o scripture_n or_o other_o ancient_a writer_n the_o admonition_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o senior_n be_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n to_o consult_v to_o admo_fw-la sh_n to_o correct_v &_o to_o order_v all_o thing_n appertain_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o congregation_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a i_o pray_v you_o what_o authority_n remain_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o church_n matter_n in_o d_o ede_fw-mi if_o you_o make_v such_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o church_n &_o
the_o common_a wealth_n the_o ci_fw-fr ill_a magistrate_n &_o the_o ecclesiastical_a as_o you_o do_v throughout_o your_o whole_a book_n it_o be_v not_o mar_v ell_n though_o you_o think_v turk_n no_o more_o authoriti_n 〈◊〉_d ed_z to_o a_o i_fw-mi istian_a magistrate_n tha_z t_o the_o turk_n the_o office_n of_o senior_n to_o be_v perpetual_a for_o you_o give_v no_o more_o authority_n to_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a government_n than_o you_o will_v do_v to_o the_o turk_n if_o you_o be_v under_o he_o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o your_o platform_n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v all_o one_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n and_o under_o the_o great_a turk_n but_o to_o l_o have_v the_o admonition_n what_o have_v you_o speak_v of_o the_o office_n of_o senior_n which_o be_v not_o either_o proper_a to_o the_o pastor_n or_o common_a to_o all_o christian_n or_o such_o as_o may_v be_v much_o better_o bring_v to_o pass_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n than_o by_o the_o ignorance_n simplicity_n and_o rudeness_n of_o the_o most_o of_o your_o senior_n but_o first_o let_v we_o hear_v more_o of_o your_o 〈◊〉_d before_o we_o come_v to_o utter_v the_o absurdity_n of_o your_o cause_n chap._n 2._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 140._o in_o the_o midst_n but_o i_o will_v yet_o come_v near_o that_o without_o the_o which_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v be_v necessary_a and_o always_o to_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o church_n but_o the_o office_n of_o ancient_n &_o elder_n be_v such_o as_o without_o which_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n can_v not_o be_v exercise_v therefore_o it_o follow_v that_o this_o office_n be_v necessary_a that_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v without_o this_o order_n of_o ancient_n it_o may_v appear_v for_o that_o he_o which_o have_v fault_v and_o amend_v not_o after_o he_o be_v admonish_v once_o pri_fw-la ate_o 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this_o matter_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o the_o people_n have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o excommunication_n as_o shall_v be_v note_v hereafter_o but_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o so_o far_o come_v for_o he_o must_v first_o refuse_v to_o obey_v the_o admonition_n of_o the_o church_n or_o ever_o they_o can_v proceed_v so_o far_o well_o if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o people_n that_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o church_n who_o be_v it_o i_o hear_v m._n doctor_n say_v it_o be_v the_o pastor_n but_o if_o he_o will_v say_v so_o &_o speak_v so_o strange_o he_o must_v warrant_v it_o with_o some_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n where_o the_o church_n be_v take_v for_o one_o which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o one_o man_n be_v many_o one_o member_n be_v a_o body_n one_o alone_o be_v a_o company_n and_o beside_o this_o strangeness_n of_o speech_n it_o be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o meaning_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o destroy_v the_o soveraintie_n of_o the_o medicine_n which_o our_o 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the_o church_n here_o he_o mean_v the_o pastor_n with_o the_o ancient_n or_o elder_n or_o else_o who_o can_v he_o mean_v and_o as_o for_o this_o manner_n of_o speech_n wherein_o by_o the_o church_n be_v understand_v the_o chief_a governor_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v oftentimes_o use_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n from_o the_o which_o our_o saviour_n borrow_v this_o manner_n of_o speak_v as_o in_o exodus_fw-la it_o be_v say_v that_o moses_n wrought_v his_o miracle_n before_o y_o e_o chap._n 4._o chap._n people_n when_o mention_n be_v make_v before_o only_o of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n who_o moses_n have_v call_v together_o and_o most_o manifest_o in_o josue_n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o that_o kill_v a_o man_n at_o unwate_n shall_v chap._n 0._o chap._n return_v unto_o the_o city_n until_o he_o stand_v before_o the_o congregation_n to_o be_v judge_v where_o by_o the_o congregation_n he_o mean_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o congregation_n for_o it_o do_v 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be_v to_o tell_v twenty_o beside_o because_o he_o be_v in_o authority_n do_v bear_v the_o office_n of_o a_o public_a magistrate_n who_o have_v power_n public_o to_o correct_v that_o which_o be_v private_o commit_v and_o therefore_o he_o that_o tell_v one_o such_o may_v well_o be_v say_v to_o tell_v the_o church_n because_o he_o tell_v such_o a_o one_o as_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n and_o be_v a_o public_a person_n so_o that_o he_o rise_v from_o private_a admonition_n to_o open_a complaint_n from_o private_a witness_n to_o a_o public_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o this_o be_v to_o rise_v not_o to_o fall_v to_o proceed_v not_o to_o go_v backward_o but_o admit_v that_o mo_z than_o one_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n which_o i_o also_o confess_v yet_o do_v it_o
senior_n therefore_o this_o reason_n of_o you_o be_v no_o reason_n at_o all_o but_o make_v direct_o against_o you_o if_o it_o be_v well_o consider_v chap._n 2._o the._n 9_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 142._o sect._n 3._o 4._o again_o if_o s._n paul_n do_v charge_v the_o persecute_v and_o therefore_o poor_a church_n with_o the_o find_n and_o provide_v for_o the_o senior_n in_o every_o church_n as_o it_o appear_v in_o y_z t_z epistle_n to_o timothy_n where_o 5._o 1._o epistle_n 5._o he_o say_v that_o elder_n which_o rule_v well_o be_v worthy_a double_a honour_n whereby_o he_o signify_v a_o plentiful_a reward_n and_o such_o as_o may_v be_v full_o sufficient_a for_o they_o and_o their_o household_n as_o when_o he_o bid_v that_o the_o widow_n which_o serve_v the_o church_n in_o attend_v upon_o the_o sick_a and_o upon_o the_o stranger_n shall_v be_v honour_v that_o be_v have_v that_o wherewith_o she_o may_v honest_o and_o sober_o live_v if_o i_o say_v s._n paul_n will_v charge_v the_o church_n then_o with_o mainteyn_v the_o elder_n which_o be_v poor_a be_v they_o the_o question_n be_v not_o of_o the_o abilirie_n to_o find_v seni_fw-la over_o but_o of_o the_o necesti_fw-la ie_fw-fr of_o ha_o ing_z they_o not_o sometime_o able_a to_o live_v without_o some_o relief_n from_o the_o church_n because_o they_o be_v compel_v oftentimes_o to_o leave_v their_o own_o affair_n to_o wait_v of_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n how_o much_o more_o ought_v there_o now_o to_o be_v senior_n when_o the_o church_n be_v in_o peace_n and_o therefore_o not_o so_o poor_a &_o when_o there_o may_v be_v choose_v such_o for_o the_o most_o part_n throughout_o the_o real_a e_o as_z be_v able_a to_o live_v without_o charge_v the_o church_n any_o whit_n as_o the_o practice_n of_o these_o day_n do_v manifest_o declare_v and_o if_o s._n paul_n that_o be_v so_o desirous_a to_o have_v the_o gospel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v free_a and_o without_o charge_n as_o much_o as_o be_v possible_a and_o soloth_n to_o lay_v any_o burden_n upon_o the_o church_n especial_o those_o which_o be_v poor_a do_v notwithstanding_o enjoin_v the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o elder_n unto_o the_o church_n poor_a and_o persecute_v how_o much_o more_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o his_o mind_n be_v that_o the_o church_n which_o live_v in_o peace_n and_o be_v rich_a and_o may_v have_v this_o office_n without_o charge_n aught_o to_o receive_v this_o order_n of_o ancient_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o be_v a_o poor_a and_o feeble_a reason_n the_o church_n find_v senior_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n ergo_fw-la there_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v senior_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n than_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n or_o this_o the_o church_n be_v now_o better_a able_a to_o find_v senior_n ergo_fw-la it_o ought_v now_o rather_o to_o be_v govern_v by_o senior_n you_o may_v make_v the_o same_o reason_n also_o for_o widow_n and_o diaconiss_n and_o as_o well_o induce_v the_o necessity_n of_o they_o but_o we_o ask_v not_o what_o the_o church_n be_v able_a to_o do_v then_o or_o what_o it_o be_v able_a to_o do_v now_o but_o whether_o the_o same_o government_n ought_v to_o be_v now_o that_o be_v then_o and_o whether_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v no_o more_o authority_n in_o the_o government_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n now_o than_o the_o heathenish_a and_o persecute_v magistrate_n have_v then_o although_o if_o you_o consider_v the_o ability_n of_o some_o parish_n and_o the_o unwillingness_n of_o other_o some_o you_o shall_v find_v that_o they_o be_v hardly_o able_a or_o willing_a to_o find_v a_o fit_a pastor_n much_o less_o will_v they_o be_v able_a or_o willing_a to_o find_v a_o number_n of_o senior_n besides_o their_o pastor_n the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n 1_o tim._n 5._o be_v untrue_o allege_v for_o your_o purpose_n for_o the_o apostle_n mean_v of_o the_o minister_n in_o every_o congregation_n and_o not_o of_o any_o number_n of_o senior_n as_o i_o 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there_o no_o cause_n why_o it_o shall_v now_o or_o at_o any_o time_n under_o christian_a prince_n be_v of_o necessity_n retain_v chap._n 2._o the._n 28._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n 1_o and_o so_o also_o be_v answer_v the_o third_o question_n that_o for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o be_v church_n officer_n question_n a_z the_o place_n heb._n 13._o be_v quote_v only_o for_o the_o phrase_n for_o it_o pro_fw-la ve_v nothing_o in_o question_n and_o over_o the_o people_n in_o matter_n perteyn_a to_o god_n and_o such_o as_o watch_v over_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n 13._o a_z heb._n 13._o that_o therefore_o although_o they_o be_v not_o pastor_n to_o preach_v the_o word_n yet_o be_v they_o not_o lay_v man_n as_o they_o term_v they_o but_o ecclesiastical_a person_n io._n whitgifte_n m._n beza_n in_o a_o epistle_n that_o be_v prefix_v before_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o church_n in_o beza_n beza_n hell_n tia_fw-la speak_v of_o the_o signiory_n say_v that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o 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this_o come_v to_o pass_v because_o the_o regiment_n leave_v of_o christ_n 23._o christ_n mat._n 18._o 7._o 1._o co._n 12._o 28_o rom._n 12._o 8._o 1._o ti._n 5._o 17._o act._n 15._o 2._o 4_o 6._o 22._o 23._o to_o his_o church_n be_v commit_v into_o one_o man_n hand_n who_o alone_o it_o shall_v be_v more_o easy_a for_o the_o wicked_a by_o bribe_v to_o pervert_v than_o to_o overthrow_v the_o faith_n &_o piety_n of_o a_o zealous_a and_o godly_a company_n for_o such_o manner_n of_o man_n in_o deed_n 13._o deed_n exod._n 18._o 21_o deut._n 1._o 13._o shall_v the_o senior_n be_v answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 130._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 131._o 132._o &_o pag._n 133._o lin._n ult._n &_o pag._n 134._o sect._n 1_o you_o say_v all_o this_o come_v to_o pass_v because_o the_o regiment_n leave_v of_o christ_n to_o his_o church_n be_v commit_v unto_o one_o man_n hand_n and_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o you_o note_v in_o the_o margin_n the._n 18._o of_o mat._n the._n 12._o of_o the_o first_o to_o the_o corin._n the._n 12._o to_o the_o rom._n the._n 5._o of_o the_o first_o to_o timoth._n the._n 15._o of_o the_o act_n which_o place_n be_v examine_v let_v the_o discrete_a reader_n judge_v how_o apt_o they_o serve_v for_o your_o purpose_n in_o the._n 18._o of_o math._n christ_n say_v on_o this_o sort_n if_o thy_o brother_n trespass_n against_o thou_o go_v and_o tell_v he_o his_o fault_n between_o he_o and_o thou_o alone_o etc._n etc._n in_o the_o which_o place_n it_o be_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o interpreter_n manifest_v that_o christ_n prescribe_v a_o rule_n of_o correct_v private_a and_o secret_a sin_n and_o not_o of_o such_o as_o be_v open_a and_o know_v to_o other_o for_o he_o will_v not_o have_v pryvate_a and_o secret_a sin_n blaze_v abroad_o &_o public_o reprehend_v before_o the_o party_n offend_v be_v in_o this_o order_n
excommunication_n or_o otherwise_o against_o prince_n nobles_z &_o whosoever_o being_n of_o that_o congregation_n so_o that_o unless_o the_o prince_n and_o noble_n be_v as_o it_o be_v at_o their_o beck_n and_o ready_a at_o all_o time_n to_o accomplish_v their_o desire_n they_o will_v send_v out_o their_o thunderbolt_n of_o excommunication_n against_o they_o even_o as_o the_o pope_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v after_o he_o have_v get_v that_o jurisdiction_n into_o his_o hand_n that_o this_o signiory_n claim_v five_o it_o smell_v of_o anabaptisme_n as_o m._n gualther_n note_v 1._o cor._n 11_o in_o these_o word_n gualther_n 5._o it_o smell_v of_o anabaptisme_n ▪_o gualther_n the_o donatists_n of_o our_o time_n ought_v to_o consider_v these_o thing_n more_o diligent_o which_o do_v over_o rash_o condemn_v whole_a city_n and_o country_n wherein_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v preach_v ▪_o sacrament_n right_o administer_v public_a prayer_n celebrate_v the_o poor_a sufficient_o provide_v for_o and_o 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common_a wealth_n it_o transform_v the_o state_n and_o government_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n into_o a_o mere_a popularity_n for_o they_o say_v in_o their_o second_o admonition_n pag._n 55._o that_o some_o must_v be_v govern_v by_o all_o &_o not_o all_o by_o some_o whereunto_o if_o that_o be_v join_v which_o t._n c._n so_o often_o repeat_v that_o be_v the_o government_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n must_v be_v frame_v to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o hang_n to_o the_o house_n it_o may_v be_v easy_o conjecture_v what_o they_o shoot_v at_o 144._o second_o admonition_n pag._n 144._o the_o decide_n of_o matter_n in_o controversy_n by_o this_o signiory_n will_v be_v a_o great_a occasion_n of_o partial_a &_o affectionate_a deal_n of_o contention_n and_o discord_n while_o some_o shall_v incline_v one_o way_n and_o some_o another_o for_o it_o can_v be_v unknown_a that_o there_o be_v many_o lightheaded_a parcialitic_a 8._o contention_n &_o parcialitic_a and_o unconstant_a minister_n &_o that_o the_o common_a sort_n of_o people_n be_v not_o much_o better_o affect_v so_o that_o alteration_n in_o doctrine_n partial_a deal_n in_o discipline_n undiscrete_a exhortation_n and_o admonition_n will_v trouble_v the_o whole_a church_n &_o set_v all_o the_o land_n together_o by_o the_o ear_n how_o contemptible_a in_o the_o end_n this_o kind_n of_o government_n will_v be_v &_o how_o little_o esteem_v neglect_v 9_o it_o will_v in_o the_o end_n be_v contemn_v &_o so_o good_a order_n neglect_v wise_a man_n can_v consider_v and_o m._n gualther_n well_o set_v out_o this_o inconvenience_n in_o these_o word_n for_o they_o which_o can_v be_v bring_v into_o good_a order_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n &_o by_o law_n much_o less_o will_v suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v punish_v by_o the_o commandment_n of_o senior_n and_o of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n who_o with_o all_o their_o solemnity_n they_o will_v 5._o gualther_n in_o cor._n 5._o 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punishment_n now_o that_o also_o be_v take_v away_o impunity_n will_v begin_v to_o reign_v with_o a_o great_a and_o public_a contempt_n of_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n neither_o do_v i_o ☜_o ☜_o speak_v these_o thing_n unaduised_o for_o example_n do_v teach_v we_o that_o these_o thing_n be_v do_v which_o be_v so_o notorious_o know_v to_o all_o man_n that_o i_o need_v not_o to_o speak_v any_o more_o of_o these_o thing_n but_o if_o in_o this_o immoderate_a licentiousness_n those_o senior_n shall_v proceed_v to_o excommunicate_v all_o those_o which_o set_v themselves_o against_o they_o it_o be_v to_o be_v fear_v least_o at_o the_o length_n there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n of_o excommunicate_v person_n than_o of_o those_o which_o do_v communicate_v with_o the_o church_n wherefore_o let_v the_o senior_n tell_v i_o what_o they_o think_v meet_v then_o to_o be_v do_v i_o suppose_v they_o will_v answer_v it_o shall_v they_o be_v needful_a to_o have_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o magistrate_n that_o he_o may_v correct_v those_o wicked_a man_n which_o by_o their_o malepertnesse_n and_o rashness_n do_v overthrow_v the_o church_n i_o agree_v also_o to_o this_o counsel_n but_o if_o this_o thing_n ought_v then_o to_o be_v do_v when_o as_o it_o can_v scarce_o be_v without_o public_a danger_n why_o be_v not_o the_o authority_n leave_v whole_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n &_o the_o whole_a government_n of_o public_a discipline_n commit_v to_o he_o before_o the_o matter_n come_v to_o this_o extremity_n hitherto_o gualther_n it_o will_v bring_v in_o too_o great_a extremity_n of_o punishment_n for_o whereas_o neither_o god_n nor_o fault_n 10._o double_a punishment_n for_o one_o fault_n man_n nor_o any_o law_n do_v punish_v one_o man_n twice_o for_o one_o &_o y_o e_o self_n same_o fact_n &_o it_o be_v against_o y_o e_o liberty_n of_o well_o order_v country_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o punishmêt_fw-fr of_o two_o diverse_a magistrate_n by_o establish_v this_o signiory_n this_o burden_n must_v be_v lay_v upon_o the_o people_n neck_n for_o let_v the_o magistrate_n punish_v according_a to_o the_o law_n as_o severe_o as_o he_o can_v yet_o you_o e_o signiory_n will_v remit_v nothing_o of_o their_o censure_n but_o proceed_v according_a to_o their_o manner_n as_o it_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the._n 2._o admonition_n fol._n 47._o and_o sure_o as_o m._n gualther_n 5._o gualther_n in_o 1._o cor._n 5._o say_v speak_v of_o this_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o signiory_n in_o the_o former_a place_n it_o seem_v to_o we_o altogether_o very_o dangerous_a to_o appoint_v two_o magistrate_n over_o one_o people_n neither_o see_v we_o any_o example_n whereby_o this_o may_v be_v prove_v and_o sure_o i_o willing_o and_o free_o confess_v that_o i_o can_v perceyve_v how_o profitable_a it_o will_v be_v i_o omit_v to_o put_v you_o in_o mind_n how_o dangerous_a namely_o in_o these_o day_n alteration_n of_o etc._n 11._o alteration_n in_o this_o time_n dangerous_a etc._n etc._n government_n &_o change_n of_o state_n be_v in_o establish_a common_a wealth_n likewise_o how_o unreasonable_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v to_o enforce_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o suffer_v in_o his_o dominion_n so_o many_o several_a kind_n of_o government_n order_n ceremony_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o church_n as_o there_o be_v parish_n also_o how_o unséemely_a it_o be_v to_o deliver_v his_o sword_n out_o of_o his_o own_o hand_n &_o to_o commit_v it_o to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o common_a sort_n &_o multitude_n in_o every_o several_a parish_n to_o displace_v noble_a man_n gentleman_n wise_a learned_a and_o discrete_a man_n &_o commit_v the_o whole_a government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o m._n pastor_n &_o his_o ignorant_a neighbour_n the_o absurdity_n &_o incovenience_n that_o of_o necessity_n must_v ensue_v of_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n where_o there_o be_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v infinite_a &_o wise_a man_n may_v easy_o conceyve_v the_o rest_n
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which_o be_v very_o negligent_a in_o hear_v sermon_n and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o furthermore_o which_o do_v offend_v the_o church_n with_o their_o wicked_a life_n for_o such_o if_o they_o live_v in_o the_o city_n they_o be_v throw_v out_o of_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o ward_n or_o company_n so_o that_o they_o can_v buy_v and_o sell_v with_o no_o man_n neither_o be_v they_o capable_a of_o any_o honour_n or_o public_a office_n but_o if_o they_o dwell_v in_o the_o country_n they_o be_v keep_v from_o the_o use_n of_o the_o common_a pastnre_n and_o wood_n and_o this_o way_n be_v most_o meet_a for_o we_o let_v other_o city_n and_o country_n do_v that_o which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v most_o profitable_a for_o their_o people_n for_o so_o much_o as_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o same_o form_n of_o discipline_n can_v be_v appoint_v and_o observe_v in_o all_o place_n i_o wish_v the_o other_o remove_v from_o those_o court_n and_o this_o in_o the_o place_n of_o 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excommunicate_v for_o money_n etc._n etc._n io._n whitgifte_n so_o i_o do_v indeed_o but_o it_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o the_o man_n not_o of_o the_o law_n chap._n 2._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 151._o sect._n 1_o last_o of_o all_o they_o take_v upon_o they_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v neither_o lawful_a for_o civil_a nor_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n nor_o simple_o for_o any_o man_n to_o do_v of_o which_o sort_n diverse_a be_v reckon_v up_o by_o the_o abmonition_n and_o some_o confess_v by_o m._n doctor_n i_o will_v not_o here_o speak_v of_o the_o unfitnesse_n of_o those_o which_o be_v chief_a officer_n in_o these_o court_n that_o the_o most_o of_o they_o be_v either_o papist_n or_o briber_n or_o drunkard_n i_o know_v what_o i_o write_v or_o epicure_n and_o such_o as_o live_v of_o benefice_n and_o prebend_n in_o england_n and_o in_o ireland_n do_v nothing_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o apperteyne_a unto_o they_o and_o of_o other_o such_o naughty_a person_n which_o 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the_o same_o and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n together_o with_o the_o testimony_n both_o of_o the_o ancient_a and_o late_a writer_n and_o undoubted_o you_o be_v dryven_v to_o a_o great_a straight_o when_o you_o be_v enforce_v to_o use_v this_o place_n of_o the._n 12._o to_o the_o roman_n to_o prove_v the_o contrary_a for_o though_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o deacon_n yet_o do_v it_o not_o prove_v in_o any_o respect_n your_o purpose_n neither_o can_v you_o frame_v any_o argument_n of_o it_o to_o that_o end_n neither_o steven_n nor_o philip_n when_o they_o be_v deacon_n preach_v and_o the_o one_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n also_o do_v break_v into_o that_o which_o apperteyn_v not_o unto_o they_o be_v incident_a to_o their_o office_n when_o they_o be_v thereunto_o call_v the_o apostle_n be_v occupy_v in_o plant_v church_n in_o go_v from_o place_n to_o place_n to_o spread_v abroad_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o they_o can_v not_o so_o 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of_o the_o church_n they_o do_v where_o there_o be_v a_o constitute_v and_o order_v church_n perteyne_a unto_o the_o minister_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n and_o to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n &_o that_o as_o they_o meddle_v not_o with_o y_z e_z make_v of_o civil_a law_n &_o law_n for_o the_o common_a wealth_n so_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v not_o to_o ordain_v ceremony_n pertain_v to_o the_o church_n but_o if_o those_o to_o who_o that_o do_v apperteyne_a make_v any_o order_v not_o meet_v the_o magistrate_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o hynder_n they_o &_o drive_v they_o to_o better_a for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v this_o charge_n to_o see_v that_o nothing_o be_v do_v against_o y_o e_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o his_o dominion_n io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n of_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 126._o be_v these_o and_o for_n these_o three_o joint_o that_o be_v the_o ecclesiastical_a the_o admoni_fw-la tor_n and_o t._n c._n join_v with_o the_o papist_n 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express_v word_n take_v from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n all_o authority_n of_o make_v and_o appoint_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d order_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n and_o give_v the_o same_o only_a to_o minister_n and_o eccle_n asticall_a govern_v r_n he_o make_v it_o the_o princess_n duty_n to_o see_v those_o awe_v execute_v which_o these_o eccle_n asticall_a governor_n shall_v appoynte_v and_o prescribe_v and_o in_o his_o preface_n he_o say_v that_o evil_a person_n may_v not_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a matter_n and_o pag._n 35._o &_o 145._o y_o e_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v not_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o common_a wealth_n whereof_o he_o be_v the_o head_n where_o by_o as_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d supreme_a governor_n and_o that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v establish_v without_o he_o pag._n 54._o he_o deni_v that_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o prescribe_v what_o kind_n of_o apparel_n minister_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d in_o diverse_a place_n he_o make_v such_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n &_o a_o christian_a common_a wealth_n y_o it_o have_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n as_o he_o will_v do_v betwixt_o the_o church_n &_o a_o heathenish_a common_a wealth_n y_o it_o have_v a_o persecute_v and_o a_o unbeleve_a magistrate_n and_o separate_v the_o common_a wealth_n of_o england_n as_o far_o from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o he_o can_v do_v the_o common_a wealth_n of_o turcia_n from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o turcia_n all_o this_o i_o have_v note_v to_o this_o end_n that_o the_o good_a subject_n and_o those_o that_o be_v careful_a for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o state_n of_o this_o realm_n and_o the_o lawful_a authority_n of_o her_o majesty_n may_v the_o better_o consider_v and_o