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A12592 A godly treatise containing and deciding certaine questions, mooued of late in London and other places, touching the ministerie, sacraments, and Church Whereunto one proposition more is added. After the ende of this booke you shall finde a defence of such points as M. Penry hath dealt against: and a confutation of many grosse errours broched in M. Penries last treatise. Written by Robert Some Doctor of Diuinitie. Some, Robert, 1542-1609.; Penry, John, 1559-1593. Defence of that which hath bin written in the questions of the ignorant ministerie, and the communicating with them. 1588 (1588) STC 22909; ESTC S117654 118,250 200

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city_n 2._o chron._n 15._o the_o reubenite_n gadite_n and_o half_a tribe_n of_o manasseh_n transgress_v against_o the_o god_n of_o their_o father_n and_o go_v a_o whore_v after_o the_o god_n of_o the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n who_o god_n have_v destroy_v before_o they_o the_o god_n of_o israel_n stir_v up_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o king_n of_o assyria_n who_o carry_v they_o away_o captive_a etc._n etc._n 1._o chron._n 5._o jehoram_n the_o king_n of_o juda_n do_v forsake_v the_o lord_n god_n of_o his_o father_n the_o consequent_n be_v edom_n libnah_n rebel_v the_o lord_n stir_v up_o against_o jehoram_n the_o spirit_n of_o the_o philistine_n &_o arabian_n 2._o chron._n 21._o king_n ahaz_n be_v a_o notable_a idolater_n he_o sacrifice_v to_o the_o god_n of_o damascus_n the_o edomite_n and_o philistine_n invade_v the_o city_n of_o juda_n and_o prevail_v yea_o the_o king_n of_o aslyria_n who_o help_n ahaz_n desire_v and_o account_v great_o of_o do_v trouble_v and_o not_o strengthen_v he_o 2._o chron._n 28._o jehoiakim_n the_o king_n of_o juda_n do_v evil_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o lord_n his_o god_n the_o king_n of_o babel_n come_v up_o against_o he_o and_o bind_v he_o with_o chain_n to_o carry_v he_o to_o babel_n 2._o chron._n 36._o they_o which_o dissent_v in_o religion_n can_v be_v knit_v fast_o together_o the_o samaritan_n and_o jew_n differ_v in_o religion_n they_o contend_v about_o the_o temple_n joh._n 4._o the_o stir_n between_o they_o be_v very_o great_a some_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n after_o christ_n ascension_n urge_a circumcision_n as_o necessary_a unto_o salvation_n other_o condemn_v it_o as_o a_o absurd_a &_o gross_a error_n the_o stir_n be_v great_a in_o the_o church_n of_o antiochia_n and_o galatia_n arius_n err_v blasphemous_o about_o the_o godhead_n
of_o christ_n alexander_n the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n both_o mislike_v &_o condemn_v his_o filthy_a heresy_n socrat._n lib._n 1._o ca._n 6._o there_o be_v hot_a stir_n in_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n the_o lord_n ark_n and_o the_o philistine_n dagon_n the_o ephesian_n diana_n and_o paul_n preach_n popery_n and_o the_o gospel_n can_v stand_v together_o asa_n be_v a_o religious_a prince_n he_o suppress_v idolatry_n and_o plant_v god_n religion_n the_o kingdom_n be_v quiet_a before_o he_o and_o he_o vanquish_v the_o ethiopian_n 2._o chron._n 14._o &_o 15._o chap._n josaphat_n be_v a_o zealous_a promoter_n of_o the_o lord_n religion_n almighty_a god_n crown_v he_o with_o this_o blessing_n the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n fall_v upon_o all_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o land_n that_o be_v round_o about_o judah_n and_o they_o fight_v not_o against_o josaphat_n the_o philistine_n bring_v to_o josaphat_n gift_n and_o tribute_n silver_n the_o arabian_n bring_v he_o flock_n both_o of_o ram_n and_o goat_n 2._o chron._n 17._o vzziah_n the_o king_n of_o juda_n prosper_v so_o long_o as_o he_o seek_v the_o lord_n almighty_a god_n help_v he_o against_o the_o philistine_n and_o arabian_n the_o ammonite_n give_v he_o tribute_n and_o his_o name_n be_v famous_a even_o unto_o egypt_n 2._o chron._n 26._o ezechias_n be_v a_o careful_a advancer_n of_o god_n religion_n the_o land_n have_v great_a quietness_n and_o be_v notable_o deliver_v from_o the_o assyrian_n 2._o chron._n 32._o queen_n elizabeth_n have_v plant_v the_o lord_n religion_n pope_n gregory_n pius_n sixtus_n have_v curse_v her_o majesty_n the_o popish_a enemy_n have_v be_v &_o be_v malicious_o bend_v against_o she_o &_o this_o land_n as_o sennacherib_n &_o rabsakeh_n against_o ezechias_n and_o jerusalem_n but_o god_n have_v bless_v and_o miraculous_o preserve_v her_o highness_n and_o dominion_n as_o he_o do_v ezechias_n &_o jerusalem_n the_o great_a enemy_n of_o the_o english_a nation_n be_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o english_a nation_n but_o if_o we_o desire_v and_o obtain_v pardon_n for_o our_o sin_n at_o god_n hand_n &_o shall_v serve_v our_o god_n &_o sanctify_v his_o sabbath_n more_o careful_o than_o we_o have_v do_v the_o lord_n will_v go_v forth_o with_o our_o army_n our_o captain_n and_o soldier_n shall_v amaze_v and_o vanquish_v our_o popish_a enemy_n as_o gedeon_n do_v the_o madianites_fw-la jephthe_n the_o ammonite_n and_o david_n the_o philistine_n and_o our_o gracious_a god_n will_v cover_v both_o prince_n &_o people_n with_o the_o shield_n of_o his_o justice_n and_o defend_v we_o with_o the_o sword_n of_o his_o judgement_n objection_n when_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v stir_n do_v grow_v that_o appear_v in_o jerusalem_n act._n 7._o in_o iconium_n act._n 14._o in_o rome_n act._n 28._o answer_n i_o grant_v that_o stir_n appear_v sometime_o when_o god_n truth_n be_v deliver_v the_o fault_n be_v not_o in_o the_o seed_n but_o in_o the_o ground_n it_o be_v not_o elias_n that_o trouble_a israel_n but_o achab_n and_o his_o father_n house_n which_o forsake_v the_o lord_n commandment_n &_o follow_v baal_n 1._o king_n 18._o the_o holy_a preach_n resemble_v medicine_n daylight_n and_o the_o heat_n of_o the_o sun_n it_o be_v not_o the_o medicine_n but_o evil_a humour_n which_o distemper_n the_o body_n variety_n of_o colour_n be_v not_o make_v but_o discern_v by_o the_o day_n light_n the_o heat_n of_o the_o sun_n be_v not_o the_o cause_n but_o the_o descrier_n of_o the_o stink_n of_o a_o carrion_n 6._o the_o child_n of_o god_n be_v not_o pollute_v though_o he_o be_v present_a at_o and_o partaker_n of_o the_o public_a prayer_n sacrament_n etc._n etc._n at_o such_o time_n as_o wicked_a man_n be_v present_a at_o and_o partaker_n of_o they_o in_o the_o prophet_n time_n there_o be_v many_o &_o gross_a corruption_n at_o jerusalem_n the_o magistrate_n priest_n and_o people_n be_v great_o disorder_v the_o lord_n religion_n be_v partly_o contemn_v and_o partly_o defile_v do_v the_o holy_a prophet_n sever_v themselves_o from_o they_o of_o jerusalem_n in_o salomon_n temple_n do_v they_o build_v new_a either_o church_n to_o assemble_v in_o or_o altar_n to_o sacrifice_v upon_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o do_v not_o and_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o pollute_v our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v present_v to_o the_o lord_n in_o jerusalem_n a_o oblation_n be_v give_v luk._n 2.22_o he_o be_v afterward_o partaker_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n in_o salomon_n temple_n with_o the_o scribe_n pharise_n &_o ungracious_a people_n of_o jerusalem_n my_o reason_n be_v first_o christ_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o law_n gal._n 4.4_o one_o branch_n of_o the_o law_n be_v to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n in_o salomon_n temple_n second_o christ_n in_o the_o dialogue_n with_o the_o woman_n of_o samaria_n speak_v of_o himself_o and_o the_o jew_n use_v these_o word_n we_o worship_v that_o which_o we_o know_v joh._n 4.22_o under_o the_o word_n worship_n be_v contain_v the_o sacrifice_n calu._n contra_fw-la anabapt_n the_o church_n of_o corinth_n and_o galatia_n have_v many_o and_o gross_a sore_n in_o they_o saint_n paul_n i_o confess_v deal_v very_o roundly_o with_o they_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o either_o licence_n or_o call_v upon_o god_n servant_n in_o corinth_n and_o galatia_n to_o sever_v themselves_o from_o the_o assembly_n if_o to_o be_v present_a in_o the_o assembly_n have_v bring_v pollution_n the_o apostle_n will_v not_o have_v fail_v in_o this_o christian_a duty_n let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o 1._o cor._n 11.28_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o say_v let_v every_o man_n examine_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o communicant_n which_o no_o doubt_n he_o will_v have_v give_v in_o charge_n if_o the_o lewdness_n of_o other_o do_v pollute_v god_n servant_n he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o himself_o 1._o cor._n 11.29_o saint_n paul_n say_v to_o himself_o not_o to_o other_o the_o apostle_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n with_o judas_n aug._n contra_fw-la lit._n petil._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 11._o &_o 23._o &_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 106._o but_o they_o be_v not_o partaker_n of_o judas_n theft_n aug._n contra_fw-la cresc_n gram._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 26._o or_o judas_n treason_n acceditur_fw-la ad_fw-la vitium_fw-la corruptionis_fw-la vitio_fw-la consensionis_fw-la aug._n contra_fw-la don._n post_fw-la coll._n lib._n that_o be_v to_o consent_v to_o vice_n be_v to_o be_v corrupt_v with_o vice_n that_o judas_n be_v a_o thief_n saint_n john_n report_v joh._n 12._o vers_fw-la 6._o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v know_v before_o the_o partake_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n that_o judas_n shall_v betray_v christ_n appear_v manifest_o in_o the_o evangelist_n matthew_n matt._n 26._o vers_fw-la 21_o 23_o 25._o the_o most_o famous_a man_n before_o and_o in_o our_o time_n be_v of_o my_o side_n augustine_n in_o his_o writing_n against_o petilian_n parmenian_n cresconius_n the_o donatist_n and_o caluin_n in_o his_o treatise_n against_o the_o anabaptiste_n be_v very_o peremptory_a in_o this_o argument_n none_o can_v or_o will_v mislike_v it_o unless_o they_o be_v already_o or_o mean_v to_o be_v donatist_n or_o anabaptiste_n objection_n the_o apostle_n command_v we_o to_o withdraw_v ourselves_o from_o every_o brother_n that_o walk_v inordinate_o 2._o thess_n 3.6_o answer_n we_o must_v withdraw_v ourselves_o quoad_fw-la privatam_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la non_fw-la quoad_fw-la publicam_fw-la communionem_fw-la that_o be_v touch_v private_a conversation_n not_o touch_v public_a partake_v of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n caluin_n be_v of_o this_o judgement_n in_o his_o treatise_n against_o the_o anabaptiste_n if_o any_o shall_v gather_v of_o this_o i_o have_v set_v down_o that_o i_o be_o content_a to_o admit_v notorious_a sinner_n to_o the_o holy_a table_n he_o do_v i_o great_a wrong_n and_o be_v refute_v in_o my_o treatise_n of_o the_o sacrament_n where_o i_o use_v these_o word_n it_o be_v a_o great_a sin_n for_o a_o know_v wicked_a man_n either_o to_o minister_v the_o lord_n supper_n or_o to_o present_v himself_o to_o the_o holy_a communion_n and_o such_o lewdness_n must_v be_v severelie_o punish_v by_o they_o in_o who_o hand_n it_o be_v to_o redress_v it_o but_o if_o this_o gross_a sin_n be_v practise_v and_o no_o medicine_n use_v to_o cure_v it_o the_o godly_a must_v content_v themselves_o with_o grief_n for_o these_o enormity_n and_o remember_v that_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v up_o god_n sweet_a promise_n to_o they_o which_o the_o wicked_a sort_n at_o no_o hand_n be_v partaker_n of_o 7._o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n by_o popish_a priest_n receive_v true_a baptism_n touch_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n the_o popish_a priest_n do_v retain_v the_o essential_a form_n of_o christ_n baptism_n that_o be_v they_o do_v baptise_v in_o the_o name_n not_o of_o pope_n or_o idol_n but_o of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n therefore_o it_o
edify_a word_n unless_o it_o be_v utter_v according_a to_o the_o ordinance_n both_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o person_n that_o utter_v the_o same_o and_o the_o end_n wherefore_o it_o be_v utter_v chap._n 8._o pag._n 99_o this_o be_v a_o popish_a error_n for_o the_o scripture_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v of_o credit_n in_o itself_o read_v my_o answer_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 102._o m._n penry_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n chap._n 23._o pag._n 175._o 176._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a error_n condemn_v of_o very_o famous_a man_n and_o all_o reform_a church_n if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o antichrist_n second_o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v in_o any_o reform_a church_n though_o some_o of_o the_o religion_n do_v present_v they_o to_o baptism_n and_o public_o undertake_v the_o good_a education_n of_o they_o read_v that_o which_o i_o have_v write_v chap._n 17._o pag._n 147._o 148._o 149._o and_o chap._n 23._o pag._n 176._o m._n penry_n say_v that_o if_o there_o be_v a_o church_n in_o popery_n our_o magistrate_n etc._n etc._n be_v schismatic_n inasmuch_o as_o they_o have_v separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n chap._n 17._o pag._n 151._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a and_o popish_a collection_n and_o can_v stand_v with_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o subject_n read_v my_o answer_n chap._n 17._o pag._n 151._o 152._o m._n penry_n write_v that_o man_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v not_o ingraff_v by_o baptism_n into_o a_o true_a christ_n his_o word_n be_v these_o where_o there_o be_v no_o true_a christ_n whereunto_o man_n can_v be_v ingraff_v by_o baptism_n there_o true_a baptism_n as_o touch_v the_o substance_n can_v be_v get_v etc._n etc._n but_o in_o popery_n there_o be_v no_o true_a christ_n whereinto_o man_n may_v be_v ingraff_v etc._n etc._n chap._n 23._o pag._n 173._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a error_n condemn_v of_o all_o famous_a writer_n and_o church_n read_v that_o which_o i_o have_v write_v chap._n 23._o pag._n 173._o &_o 174._o and_o cha_n 20._o pag._n 156._o 157._o master_n penry_n write_v that_o if_o baptism_n administer_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n be_v deny_v to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n he_o will_v wish_v none_o to_o offer_v themselves_o to_o that_o holy_a sacrament_n for_o six_o cause_n first_o we_o be_v already_o receyve_v into_o the_o bosom_n of_o the_o church_n and_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o as_o much_o as_o we_o be_v once_o offer_v and_o receyve_v into_o the_o number_n of_o the_o godly_a by_o the_o outward_a element_n though_o corrupt_o to_o what_o end_n then_o shall_v baptism_n serve_v we_o again_o in_o his_o exhort_v to_o the_o governonr_n etc._n etc._n of_o wales_n pag._n 31._o if_o this_o be_v true_a which_o m._n penry_n say_v the_o outward_a and_o bare_a element_n deliver_v by_o he_o which_o in_o m._n 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schismatic_n etc._n etc._n answer_n our_o magistrate_n people_n etc._n etc._n have_v sever_v themselves_o not_o from_o the_o church_n but_o from_o idolatry_n not_o from_o the_o common_a wealth_n but_o from_o tyranny_n oppress_v the_o common_a wealth_n not_o from_o the_o city_n but_o from_o the_o plague_n which_o pester_v the_o city_n etc._n etc._n that_o be_v separation_n be_v not_o from_o any_o truth_n remain_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n nor_o from_o the_o poor_a church_n that_o be_v there_o hold_v under_o captivity_n but_o from_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n and_o from_o the_o tyranny_n of_o antichrist_n which_o be_v more_o grievous_a than_o the_o yoke_n either_o of_o egypt_n or_o chaldaea_n therefore_o godly_a prince_n &_o people_n can_v just_o be_v call_v schismatic_n thrasibulus_n withdraw_v himself_o to_o phile_n during_o the_o time_n that_o thirty_o tyrant_n do_v tear_v in_o piece_n the_o common_a wealth_n in_o athens_n camillus_n withdraw_v himself_o to_o vey_v during_o the_o time_n that_o the_o gaul_n waste_v the_o city_n of_o rome_n if_o any_o shall_v conclude_v of_o this_o that_o thrasibulus_n and_o camillus_n separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o common_a wealth_n of_o rome_n and_o athens_n and_o not_o from_o the_o tyranny_n under_o which_o the_o athenians_n and_o roman_n then_o be_v he_o reason_v most_o absurd_o etc._n etc._n the_o
sum_n of_o my_o answer_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o writing_n of_o that_o french_a gentleman_n philip_n of_o mornay_n tract_n de_fw-fr eccle_n cap._n 10._o the_o name_n of_o schismatic_n be_v much_o fit_a for_o proud_a penry_n and_o his_o fantastical_a disciple_n then_o for_o godly_a magistrate_n and_o people_n who_o be_v most_o saucy_o deal_v with_o by_o the_o anabaptisticall_a crew_n question_n whether_o all_o our_o ancestor_n which_o live_v &_o die_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v damn_v answer_n philip_n of_o morney_n do_v answer_v thus_o as_o our_o adversary_n make_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o people_n snatch_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n only_o to_o the_o prelate_n which_o shall_v be_v common_a to_o all_o christian_n so_o we_o likewise_o do_v well_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o people_n cleave_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o faction_n of_o antichrist_n between_o they_o who_o live_v under_o the_o popedom_n and_o the_o upholder_n and_o maintainer_n of_o the_o pope_n between_o the_o enchanter_n and_o those_o that_o be_v enchant_v between_o the_o pharisee_n who_o christ_n call_v a_o generation_n of_o viper_n and_o the_o poor_a sick_a woman_n who_o he_o call_v the_o very_a daughter_n of_o abraham_n we_o say_v that_o among_o the_o poor_a people_n which_o be_v so_o long_a time_n deceive_v under_o the_o darkness_n of_o antichrist_n there_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o that_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o maintainer_n be_v the_o botch_n of_o the_o plague_n in_o it_o which_o stifle_v &_o choke_v it_o as_o much_o as_o it_o can_v etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o etc._n etc._n we_o know_v that_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o people_n be_v ignorant_a of_o those_o pestilent_a doctrine_n which_o the_o schoolman_n leave_v in_o writing_n that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o the_o principal_a blasphemy_n of_o the_o papacy_n also_o that_o the_o more_o part_n do_v never_o believe_v that_o they_o can_v merit_v everlasting_a life_n by_o their_o own_o work_n whatsoever_o man_n preach_v thereof_o again_o albeit_o that_o through_o custom_n and_o ignorance_n they_o go_v to_o saint_n and_o image_n and_o frequent_v mass_n and_o pilgrimage_n yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o their_o conflict_n of_o death_n they_o always_o principal_o cleave_v to_o the_o cross_n of_o jesus_n christ_n we_o have_v a_o example_n of_o s._n barnard_n himself_o and_o we_o have_v see_v many_o more_o in_o our_o time_n saint_n barnard_n in_o certain_a place_n savour_v of_o the_o contagion_n of_o his_o time_n as_o it_o be_v hard_a he_o shall_v do_v otherwise_o but_o see_v his_o refuge_n when_o he_o be_v tempt_v of_o the_o devil_n in_o his_o last_o day_n i_o confess_v say_v he_o that_o i_o be_o not_o worthy_a of_o it_o i_o know_v that_o i_o can_v not_o by_o my_o own_o work_n obtain_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o my_o lord_n have_v obtain_v it_o by_o a_o double_a right_n by_o inheritance_n from_o the_o father_n and_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o passion_n now_o he_o be_v content_v with_o the_o one_o and_o give_v i_o the_o other_o and_o when_o i_o attribute_v it_o to_o myself_o by_o the_o gift_n which_o he_o have_v make_v unto_o i_o thereof_o i_o can_v be_v confound_v and_o in_o another_o place_n my_o merit_n be_v the_o mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o i_o be_o not_o poor_a in_o merit_n because_o he_o be_v rich_a in_o his_o mercy_n i_o have_v great_o sin_v but_o i_o will_v comfort_v myself_o in_o the_o stripe_n of_o my_o lord_n even_o so_o likewise_o we_o assure_v ourselves_o in_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n that_o a_o great_a number_n hold_v the_o foundation_n in_o jesus_n christ_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v albeit_o antichrist_n shake_v it_o &_o as_o it_o be_v endeavour_v to_o overturn_v it_o in_o they_o all_o that_o he_o may_v phil._n mor._n tract_n de_fw-fr eccle._n cap._n 9_o of_o this_o judgement_n be_v that_o famous_a man_n peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n cap._n 15._o vers_fw-la 18._o i_o rest_v in_o their_o judgement_n chap._n 18._o that_o popish_a priest_n have_v a_o calling_n though_o a_o faulty_a one_o if_o popish_a priest_n have_v no_o call_n at_o all_o baptism_n be_v deliver_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n by_o private_a man_n which_o be_v a_o gross_a absurdity_n 2_o many_o popish_a priest_n after_o detestation_n of_o their_o popish_a error_n be_v allow_v minister_n in_o the_o reform_a church_n without_o imposition_n of_o hand_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o best_a church_n they_o have_v before_o a_o call_n though_o a_o faulty_a one_o those_o execellent_a father_n and_o martyr_n cranmer_n rydley_n hooper_n latymer_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v sometime_o popish_a priest_n be_v allow_v minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n without_o imposition_n of_o hand_n etc._n etc._n caluine_n write_v of_o popish_a priest_n have_v these_o word_n si_fw-la verò_fw-la quis_fw-la istiusmodi_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o si_fw-mi obijcitur_fw-la pauli_n canon_n ille_fw-la quo_fw-la traditur_fw-la eligendum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la irreprehensibilem_fw-la esse_fw-la oportere_fw-la respondeo_fw-la non_fw-la hîc_fw-la agi_fw-la meo_fw-la quidem_fw-la iudicio_fw-la de_fw-la simplici_fw-la vel_fw-la absoluta_fw-la electione_n sed_fw-la de_fw-la approbatione_fw-la vel_fw-la restitutione_n ad_fw-la certum_fw-la munus_fw-la propter_fw-la interuenientem_fw-la corruptionem_fw-la and_o a_o little_a after_o duo_o sunt_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la statu_fw-la summa_fw-la vitia_fw-la vnum_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la recta_fw-la ratione_fw-la instituti_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la munus_fw-la eeclesiasticum_n etc._n etc._n the_o sum_n of_o m._n caluines_n word_n be_v that_o such_o popish_a priest_n as_o detest_a popery_n and_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o ministry_n may_v be_v allow_v or_o rather_o restore_v to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a function_n first_o because_o they_o be_v not_o before_o right_o institute_v second_o ad_fw-la corrigendum_fw-la praecedentem_fw-la defectum_fw-la that_o be_v to_o correct_v the_o former_a defect_n etc._n etc._n calu._n epist_n 373._o by_o which_o word_n it_o be_v manifest_v that_o popish_a priest_n even_o in_o the_o popish_a church_n have_v and_o have_v in_o m._n caluines_n judgement_n a_o calling_n though_o a_o faulty_a one_o the_o same_o m._n caluine_n in_o a_o other_o place_n have_v these_o word_n cogimur_fw-la fateri_fw-la penes_fw-la illos_fw-la esse_fw-la ordinarium_fw-la ministerium_fw-la that_o be_v we_o be_v compel_v to_o confess_v that_o papist_n have_v a_o ordinary_a ministry_n calu._n ezech_n cap._n 13._o v._n 9_o if_o m._n penry_n will_v take_v exception_n against_o m._n caluines_n writing_n &_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o god_n church_n let_v he_o confute_v they_o very_o sound_o if_o he_o can_v do_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v account_v the_o rare_a man_n alive_a if_o he_o can_v not_o which_o i_o be_o very_o sure_a of_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v magnus_n apollo_n that_o be_v go_v for_o a_o patriarch_n as_o his_o ignorant_a follower_n do_v account_v he_o but_o he_o shall_v be_v dub_v as_o he_o be_v in_o deed_n a_o other_o nevius_n that_o be_v a_o loud_a and_o clamorous_a companion_n if_o either_o m._n penry_n or_o any_o of_o his_o fantastical_a crew_n shall_v think_v much_o of_o my_o speech_n i_o do_v not_o pass_v i_o confess_v free_o that_o sharp_a word_n be_v not_o sufficient_a plaster_n for_o such_o proud_a sore_n i_o hope_v the_o magistrate_n will_v consider_v further_o of_o he_o and_o such_o as_o he_o be_v duro_fw-la nodo_fw-la durus_fw-la cuneus_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v a_o wedge_n of_o iron_n be_v fit_a for_o knotty_a wood_n chap._n 19.20_o they_o which_o be_v once_o baptize_v must_v not_o be_v baptize_v again_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o peace_n which_o be_v make_v and_o seal_v up_o in_o baptism_n be_v perpetual_a for_o almighty_a god_n remain_v ever_o faithful_a in_o his_o covenant_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n 2_o if_o baptism_n shall_v be_v iterate_v god_n fidelity_n which_o can_v be_v make_v void_a by_o our_o infidelity_n shall_v be_v call_v into_o question_n which_o be_v a_o heinous_a sin_n 3_o circumcision_n be_v never_o iterate_v therefore_o baptism_n may_v not_o baptism_n be_v to_o we_o as_o circumcision_n be_v to_o the_o israelite_n 4_o as_o the_o carnal_a generation_n be_v one_o so_o the_o spiritual_a generation_n be_v one_o semel_fw-la nascimur_fw-la semel_fw-la renascimur_fw-la 5_o it_o appear_v not_o in_o god_n book_n that_o any_o which_o receive_v baptismum_fw-la fluminis_fw-la be_v rebaptise_v baptizmo_fw-la fluminis_fw-la 6_o agrippinus_n the_o bishop_n of_o carthage_n be_v author_n of_o iterate_v baptism_n etc._n etc._n vinc._n lir._n cap._n 9_o chap._n 20._o there_o be_v true_a baptism_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n such_o as_o be_v and_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v and_o be_v engraft_v by_o baptism_n into_o a_o true_a christ_n therefore_o
they_o receive_v true_a baptism_n the_o argument_n follow_v for_o baptism_n be_v a_o engraff_n into_o the_o true_a christ_n rom._n chap._n 6.3_o the_o antecedent_n be_v manifest_a in_o m._n penries_n judgement_n for_o he_o will_v not_o have_v they_o to_o offer_v themselves_o again_o to_o baptism_n therefore_o he_o be_v either_o a_o catabaptist_n or_o else_o there_o be_v and_o be_v even_o in_o his_o judgement_n true_a baptism_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n 2_o they_o which_o be_v circumcise_v in_o the_o time_n of_o jeroboam_fw-la and_o caiphas_n be_v account_v true_a circumcise_a person_n although_o at_o that_o time_n the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v almost_o altogether_o pervert_v and_o corrupt_v therefore_o such_o as_o be_v and_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n etc._n etc._n this_o argument_n be_v use_v of_o the_o great_a learned_a man_n of_o the_o religion_n and_o be_v allow_v of_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n 3_o caluine_n and_o beza_n be_v resolute_a for_o this_o calu._n jon_n chap_n 1._o v._n 16._o ezech_v 16._o v._n 20._o epist_n 103._o and_o 104._o beza_n confess_v chap._n 4._o art_n 49._o and_o chap_n 7._o art_n 11._o epist_n 10._o and_o 81._o viretus_fw-la have_v these_o word_n baptismum_fw-la qui_fw-la à_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la papisticis_fw-la collatus_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v we_o do_v allow_v popish_a baptism_n albeit_o we_o condemn_v the_o vain_a and_o superstitious_a ceremony_n which_o be_v use_v in_o it_o tract_n de_fw-fr commun_fw-fr fid_fw-we cum_fw-la papist_n cer_n pag._n 64._o of_o this_o judgement_n be_v all_o learned_a man_n and_o all_o reform_a church_n none_o dissent_n but_o catabaptist_n anabaptist_n m._n penry_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o fantastical_a order_n chap._n 21_o there_o have_v be_v and_o may_v be_v true_a baptism_n out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o donatist_n thought_n otherwise_o in_o augustine_n time_n but_o they_o be_v notable_o confute_v by_o augustine_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la contra_fw-la don._n 2_o true_a circumcision_n be_v among_o the_o edomite_n 3_o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v out_o of_o the_o church_n by_o heretic_n neither_o be_v nor_o may_v be_v rebaptise_v therefore_o they_o receive_v true_a baptism_n the_o antecedent_n be_v manifest_a for_o it_o be_v a_o rule_n in_o divinity_n and_o receive_v of_o all_o learned_a man_n baptizati_fw-la ab_fw-la haereticis_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la rebaptizandi_fw-la that_o be_v they_o which_o be_v baptize_v of_o heretic_n be_v not_o to_o be_v rebaptise_v the_o reason_n be_v where_o the_o essential_a form_n of_o baptism_n be_v observe_v non_fw-la haereticus_fw-la sed_fw-la haeretici_fw-la manu_fw-la christus_fw-la baptizat_fw-la that_o be_v not_o the_o heretic_n but_o christ_n do_v baptize_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o heretic_n aug._n passim_fw-la de_fw-mi bapt_v count_v don._n it_o be_v not_o the_o baptism_n of_o heretic_n or_o schismatics_n but_o of_o god_n &_o the_o church_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v find_v and_o whithersoever_o translate_v aug._n the_o bapt_a contra_fw-la don._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 14._o the_o heresy_n be_v they_o the_o error_n be_v they_o etc._n etc._n but_o baptism_n which_o be_v christ_n must_v not_o be_v account_v they_o aug._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la contra_fw-la don._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 11._o cyprian_n be_v of_o a_o other_o judgement_n in_o the_o church_n of_o carthage_n but_o he_o be_v condemn_v for_o that_o error_n by_o the_o best_a church_n in_o that_o age_n 4._o the_o ark_n of_o the_o testament_n which_o be_v take_v of_o the_o philistines_n lose_v not_o the_o virtue_n of_o sanctification_n 1._o sam._n 4._o dagon_n can_v teach_v we_o that_o 5_o si_fw-la foris_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v if_o no_o man_n can_v have_v any_o thing_n which_o be_v christ_n out_o of_o the_o church_n neither_o can_v any_o man_n have_v any_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o devil_n within_o the_o church_n aug._n the_o bapt_a contr_n don._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 7._o 6_o non_fw-la itaque_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o ecclesiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v they_o be_v not_o therefore_o not_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o church_n because_o heretic_n and_o wicked_a man_n do_v unlawful_o use_v they_o they_o that_o be_v the_o heretic_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o be_v amend_v or_o punish_v but_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v and_o reverent_o esteem_v of_o etc._n etc._n question_n how_o do_v heretic_n possess_v baptism_n answer_n baptismum_fw-la legitimum_fw-la habent_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la legitimè_fw-la habent_fw-la that_o be_v heretic_n have_v lawful_a baptism_n but_o they_o have_v it_o not_o lawful_o aug._n de_fw-fr bapt._n cont_n don._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 7._o neque_fw-la licitè_fw-fr foris_fw-la habetur_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la habetur_fw-la sic_fw-la illicitè_fw-fr for_o be_v datur_fw-la sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la datur_fw-la that_o be_v baptism_n be_v not_o have_v 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