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A57976 A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ... Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1642 (1642) Wing R2389; ESTC R7368 261,592 504

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key toward another this way but these are not the keyes ecclesiastically and formally that are given to the Church seeing one man is not the Church But only the keyes materially used in a private way as a common servant at command of the Lord of the house may use the keyes and give broad to the barnes but it followeth not hence that the keyes are given to him authoritatively as to the Steward by speciall office because this servant of charitie useth the keyes or rather that which is in place of the keyes which is the word in a private way CHAPTER III. Whether or no the Church of believers in a Congregation be the first Church having the highest power of jurisdiction within it selfe and that independently and power above and over their Eldership to constitute and ordaine them by an intrinsecall power received from Jesus Christ and by that same power to censure and depose them when they become scandalous in life or corrupt in doctrine THe determination of this question so neare of blood and kindred to the former two is of much force to cleare many doubts in this subject Hence I propound these following distinctions as very considerable 1. A Church independent is twofold either a Church of believers in a congregation having originally the power of the keyes within themselves to make or unmake their officers 2. Or an Eldership of one congregation including the congregation that may from an intrinsecall power without subordination to Synods provinciall or nationall exercise all jurisdiction This question is of the former independent Church 2. A Church is considered two wayes 1. As totum essentiale this is a mysticall Church consisting of only b●lievers or of persons as professing faith a Church of faithfull of Saints 2. The Church is considered as totum integrale made up of officers and a flock this Ames cals an instituted Church others a Ministeriall Church as we consider John as a believer or John as an Elder or minister of a Church 3. There is a twofold Primacie answerable to this One whereby a number of believers is the first mysticall body of Christ immediately united to Christ as a mysticall body to the head This is a mysticall or Christian primacy or to speak so firstnesse or principality 2. There is an other primacy or principalitie ministeriall wherby such a number of men are the first subject of the keyes having power of binding and loosing first and immediately from Christ as is proved Ch. 1. 4. 3. Christ hath a twofold influence as head upon these two bodies one influence of speciall and saving grace upon the Church of believers An other common influence communicating to the ministeriall body the power of the keyes and gifts which hee gave to men to be Pastours and Teachers and Elders when he ascended on high and le● captivitie captive Neither do they looke right on this question who will have the power of the keyes an essentiall propertie of the Church of believers for there is no reciprocation here betwixt the propertie and the subject seeing the power of the keyes is in many that are unbelievers and not of Christs mysticall body Many warrantably preach Christ to others and seale the covenant to others who are unsaved men remember the builders of the Arke and many are Christs mysticall body that have not the power of the keyes All believers are not Eld●rs having power of order Hence our 1. Conclusion If wee speake of a Christian primacie and eminency of grace the Church of believers sincerely professing the faith and believing is the only first true visible Church 1. The essence and definition of a called and effectually translated company agreeth to them and they are the called of God 2. Because the promises made to the redeemed saved and washen Church belongeth to them they are properly the Church builded on the rock the loved and redeemed spouse of Christ. 2. This Church is the true body of Christ which shall infallibly bee glorified with the head Christ. The ministeriall Church is his body also on which hee hath an influence bestowing upon them common gifts but not a body which shall infallibly be glorified but in so far as they are true members of the Church of believers And here observe our brethren have no cause to object to us that there is not a place in all the old or new Testament where the word Church signifieth only the presbyterie or Eldership the contrary whereof God willing I shall shew but I desire that they will produce a place in either the old or new Testament where the word Church signifieth a governing multitude or a ministeriall company of onely believers having power and use of the keyes yet this must be shewed in this dispute if their principles stand good 11. Conclusion A multitude of believers sincerely professing the faith is the first visible mysticall Church because the definition of a visible mysticall Church agreeth to them being redeemed professors of the Gospell So the saints at Colosse Corinth Philippi as not including their guides is a true uisible Church Before I come to the third conclusion I must shew what our brethren hold anent this present question The English puritanisme holdeth every Congregation or Assemblie of true believers joyning together according to the order of the Gospell in the true worship of God to be a true visible Church And that this name is unproperly given to Synods or Assemblies of office-bearers so also the Guide to Zion Parker maketh the Church of believers in any particular congregation to be the highest and most supreme Church in majoritie and power of jurisdiction above t●eir owne Eldership or Presbyterie having power to ordaine or depose them above all Synods of Pastours and Elders William Best citeth and approveth the mind of the English Church as he calleth it at Frankeford the Ministers and Seniors severally and joyntly shall have no authority to make any manner of decrees or ordinances to bind the congregation or any member thereof but sh●ll ●●ecute such ordinances as shall be made by the congregation and to them delivered Hooker against Paget They whic● had compleat and perfect Ministers before any Classes had power to call those Ministers they have authoritie above the Ministers But a particul●r congregation had perfect and compleat Ministers perfectly and compleatly called before any Classes To this agreeth the confession of faith of the unjustly called Brownists that every Christian congregation yea two or three sequestred from the whole hath ●ower from Christ of election ordination deposition excommunication of the Elders or Office-bearers set over them And expresly M. Parker a man otherwayes of an excellent spirit for holinesse and learning saith That the supremacie of Ecclesiasticall power is in the Church of believers contradistinguished from their guides Paul and Apollo Here we see
hath to Christ is not the ground why the keyes are given to that people as to the originall subject because they may have the Word Sacraments and keyes a long time and yet want faith in Christ and so all title and claime to Christ All which time they have the keyes discipline and Sacraments and I beleeve their acts of discipline censures and Sacraments are valide therefore the Church redeemed and builded on the rocke Christ is not the kindly subject of the keyes 2. The keyes are given to professors cloathed with a ministeriall calling whither they be beleevers or unbeleevers howbeit God giveth them for the salvation and edification of beleevers 3. There is nothing required to make a independant Congregation but an profession of the truth covenant-wayes and outward worshipping of God suppose the members be unbeleevers 4. Conclusion There is a visible governing Church in the new Testament whose members in compleat number of beleevers doth not meet in one place ordinarily for the worship of God neither can they continually so meet 1. The Church of Jerusalem was one Church under one government and called one Church in the singular number which grew from one hundred and twenty Acts 1. to three thousand one hundred and twenty Acts 4. 41. and then added to these Acts 4. 4. five thousand men which is eight thousand one hundred and twenty And Acts 9. 35. all that dwelt at Lydda and Saron turned to the Lord v. 42. many in Joppa beleeved in the Lord Acts 20. 21. many thousands of the Jewes beleeved Acts 5. 14. multitudes of beleevers moe were added to the Lord both of men and women Acts 6. 1. their number were multiplyed Now it was not possible they could all meet in one house especially seeing that prophecye was to take its first accomplishment at Jerusalem where all flesh was to see the salvation of God And that of Joel 2. I will poure my spirit on all flesh It s true Bayne saith this Church was numerous by accident at extraordinary confluences of strangers Yet the multitudes of thousands which I have observed from the story of the Acts granting the confluence Acts 2. of nations to be extraordinary did meet daily Acts 2. 46. from house to house Now so many thousands could not meet daily that is ordinarily 2. From house to house in private houses and so it is not possible all that people did make but one Congregation independent where 1 all had voices in discipline 2. all did breake bread that is receive the Sacrament in a private house so that their meeting together must be taken distributively in diverse Congregations not collectively for that were against edification 2. against the nature of congregationall worship 2. There was a visible Church in Samaria under one government that could not convene in all the members in one place The numerous people in Samaria converted to the faith is knowne to all it being the head City of the ten Tribes So huge that all Israel was named Samaria They received the faith Acts 8. and as ver 10. They all gave heed to Simon Magus from the least to the greatest So ver 6. with one accord they gave heed unto these things which Philip spake hearing and seeing the miracles that he wrought ver 12. they beleeved and were baptized both men and women And that on Philip might have preached to one single Congregation who doubteth but the number of beleevers were so many that ver 14. the Apostles behooved to send Peter and John to help to hold up the harvest 3. That the Church of Ephesus could not be one single Congregation that met together is cleare 1. There was there a Presbytery of Pastors or Bishops Acts 20. 28. and these preaching or feeding Pastors who were to watch and take heed to false teachers rising up amongst themselves 1. teaching perverse things 2. making Disciples to themselves the teacher and scholler are relata every one of them has respect to other 2. That they were teaching Elders that did follow the Apostles doctrine is cleare Rev. 2. 2. Thou hast tryed them that say they are Apostles and are not and hast found them to be lyars and Christ termeth them one Church for their common government The answer of Tylen saith Christ saith not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the Churches and therefore all the Congregation were one Presbyteriall Church at Ephesus But it is without example in the word that one single Congregation with one Pastor onely and some ruling Elders doth try Ministers gifts and finding them false teachers authoritatively to cast them out so that the harvest has been so great that false teachers calling themselves Apostles resorted to Ephesus to help the good number of Pastors who were there already Acts 20. 28. By this it is cleare that Ephesus had many Congregations in it and many preachers also who in a common society fed the flocke and exercised discipline Rev. 2. 2. neither can we say there was but one Angell there except we make that one a Prelate contrary to the word of God Acts 20. 28. 2. The multitude of converts there required a Presbytery or a multitude of consociated Pastors Acts 19. 20. Paul continued there by the space of two yeares so that all they who dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord 1 Cor. 16. 8. there was a great doore and effectuall open to him at Ephesus 2. They were once madly devoted to their great Idoll Diana and had a Temple for her that all Asia wondred at therefore Ephesus was no small Towne This Temple Herostratus saith was built by all Asia and was two hundred and twenty yeares in building and had in it as he saith one hundred and twenty seven pillars every one of them made by severall Kings and every one of them sixty foot high Now ver 19. Pauls miracles were knowne to all the Jewes and Greeks at Ephesus and feare fell on them all and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified and many of them that beleeved came and confessed and shewed their deeds v. 19. And many that used curious arts brought their books and burnt them before all men And what wonder it is said ver 20. so mightily grew the word of God Paul fought with beasts at Ephesus millions here were mad upon the Idoll Diana If the beleevers had not been the manyest they durst not professe the burning of their bookes nor durst Paul stay there two yeers Hence if there was a setled Church here above two yeares a constituted Presbytery in this City Acts 20. 17 28. that had power of jurisdiction to ordaine teaching Elders and reject hirelings Rev. 2. 2. and so many thousands of Greekes and Jewes such an effectuall doore opened to the Gospell against so many thousands opposing there was not here one onely single independent Church that met in one house only but a Presbyteriall Church Now they could not all preach at one time to them
may joyn in Gods worship IT is maintained by these of the Separation that the rightly constituted Church must consist of the Lords planting as saith M. Barrow all taught of God all plants of righteousnesse sons of Zion precious stones a redeemed people a royall generation so the Guide to Zion The true visible Church say the Separatists is a company of people called and separated from the world by the word of God and ioyned together in a voluntary profession of the faith So Separatists in their petit Mr. Ainsworth M. Canne the discovery of N. Light For the clearing of the Question we remit to the consideration of the Reader these distinctions 1. Distinct. There be some Saints by externall calling but not chosen some Saints by internall and effectuall calling called and chosen of God 2. Distinct. There be some members of a visible Church who de jure by right and obligation should be such there be other members of a visible Church de facto and in practise who are such and such members 3. Distinct. There is a morall obligation and so all the members of a visible Church are obliged to bee Saints by effectuall calling there is a physicall obligation and so that persons may be members of a visible Church as visible it is not essentially required that they be effectually called 4. Dist. If a true Church and a visible Church as visible may not for a time be opposed by way of contradiction as a believing Church and a non-believing Church I remit to be considered and shall God willing bee cleared 5. Dist. It is one thing to be wicked and scandalous indeed and really and another thing to be scandalous juridicè and in the Court of the Church and notarily 6. Dist. A knowne and openly scandalous person and a well lustred and dyed Hypocrite are to be differenced in the Church 7. Dist. Let it be considered if the preaching of the word be not in divers considerations 1. A mean of constituting and making a visible Church 2. A true note of a visible Church 3. A meane of saving the believing Church now visibly professing the Faith 8. Dist. Let it be considered if the Magistrate and King may not compell men to the confessing and professing of the faith actu imperato by an externall forcing power and yet neither Magistrate nor Pastour can compell to heart-believing actu elicito by an inward moving of the heart 9. Let it be considered if a visible Church may not be a true Church by reason of some few sound believers and sincere seekers of God and that same whole body an infected lump and whoorish in respect of some visible professours who are hypocrites and proud despisers of the Lord. 10. Let it be considered if a Church may not be tearmed by Gods Spirit an whoore no Church no Spouse jure merito quod vocationem passivam in respect of bad deserving and their not answering on their parts to the call of God and yet that same Church remaine de facto formaliter quoad vocationem Dei activam formally and in regard of Gods part and his active vocation and calling the Spouse and bride of Christ. Hence our first Conclusion The Saints by externall calling are the true matter of a visible Church 1. The word Ecclesia the called of God proveth this For those are a true visible Church where God hath set up a Candlestick and whom God calleth to Repentance Remission of sinnes and life eternall in Christ because there bee a setled Ministery calling 2. Because all to whom the Word is preached are called the visible Church as all within the house are vessels of the house visibly howbeeit there bee in the house Vessels of Honour and vessels of dishonour 3. So saith Ainsworth this we hold That Saints by calling are the only matter of a visible Church yet withall we hold that many are called but few chosen So also the kingdome of Heaven or visible Church is a draw net wherin are good and bad fishes a barne-floore wherin are chaffe and good wheat See 1 Corinthians 1. 23. Collossians 1. 1 2. Romans 1. 7. Philip. 1. 1. Math. 20. 16. 2. Conclusion All the members of the visible Church de jure and by right or by morall obligation ought to be Saints effectually called 1. Because the commandement of making to themselves a new heart Ezech. 18. 31. and to be renewed in the spirit of their mind Eph. 4. 23. Rom 12. 2. and to be holy as he who hath called them is holy 1 Pet. 1. 15 16. It doth lay an obligation morall upon all within the visible Church 2. Because the preached Gospell is the grace of God appearing to all men teaching them to deny ungodlinesse c. Tit. 2. v. 11 12. 3. Conclusion But de facto as the visible Church is in the field of the world all the members of the visible Church are not effectually called justified sanctified neither is it needfull by a phisicall obligation for the true nature and essence of a visible Church that all the members of it be inwardly called and sanctified every professor is obliged to beleeve else the wrath of God abideth on him and he is condemned already But to make a man a visible professor and a member of the true visible Church as visible saving faith is not essentially required so as he should be no member of the Church visible if he beleeve not That this may be right taken observe that the visible Church falleth under a two-fold consideration 1. In concreto as a Church 2. In abstracto as visible The visible Church considered in concreto is a part of the universall Catholike and unvisible Church which partaketh of the nature and essence of a true Church and Christs misticall body in which consideration we deny reprobates and unbelevers to be members of the visible Church 1. Because there is no reall communion whatever Bellarmine and Papists say on the contrary betwixt righteousnesse and unrighteousnesse light and darkenesse the seed of the woman and the seede of the Serpent so as they can make up one true Church 2. Because these who are not Christs are not members of Christ and so no part of his misticall body 3. Because they are not bought with a price nor his purchased flock in the blood of God as Acts 20. the true Church is nor builded upon a rock as Mat. 16. 18. 4. Christ is not their Redeemer head High-priest King and Saviour and so neither are they his redeemed his members his people subjects and saved ones 5. Because the promises made to the chos●n and beleevers to give them a new heart regeneration sanctification remission of sinnes are made to them only and in Gods gratious intention and not to reprobates Whence I inferre these conclusions 1. Sepera●ists arguments must be weake for they all conclude that which we deny not and no other thing to
wit that haereticks adulterers forcerers blasphemers be no parts of Christs visible Church as it is a Church Yea we say that as the tree leg and the eye of glasse and the teeth of silver by art put in the body are no members of the living body so neither are these members of the true Church and so much doe all our Divines as Calvin Beza Junius Whittaker Tilen Piscator Pareus Vrsine Tr●l●atius Sibrandus Amesius prove against Papists 2. Preaching of the Gospell is called a note of the Church and profession of faith a note of the Church both the former is a no●e of the teaching Church or minsteriall Church called Ecclesia docens The latter is a note of the professing Church who professeth the faith which we may call Ecclesia utens or Ecclesia practicè consideram 3. Profession of the faith is thought to be true either Subjectively 2. Objectively Or 3. Both Subjectively and Objectively Profession subjectively is true when the professor doeth indeed professe and avow the truth and doth not only seem to avow professe the truth and this is no note of a true Church because it may be in hypocrites who really goe to Church really heare the word and partake of the Sacraments but not sincerely Profession true objectively is when the professor doth professe that faith which is indeed sound and orthodox And this is a marke of the true teaching or ministeriall Church and may be in a visible company of professors who for the time are not sincere beleevers But a profession of the faith both objectively true and subjectively is when the object is orthodox and sound truth and the professor sincerely and gratiously and with an honest heart beleeveth and professeth the truth and this way profession of the truth is a true and essentiall note of a visible Church as it is a true Church and body of Christ and so are our Divines to be expounded in this doctrine about the notes of the visible Church But withall the visible Church is to be considered in abstracto under the notion of visibility and as visible and as performing all the externall acts of professing governing hearing preaching praising administrating the seales of the covenant binding and loosing in the externall and visible court of Christ and under this reduplication as obvious to mens eyes and therefore in this notion all externall professors who are not manifestly and openly scandalous are to be reputed members of the true visible Church and therefore this tearme would be considered a true visible Church For the adjective true may either be referred to the subject Church and so signifieth the true misticall body of Christ visibly and with all sincerely professing the sound faith Or it may be referred to the other adjective visible and so it is no other but a company of professors visible to our senses and so truely visible whose members may be unsound and false professours Then the question is whither visible Saints 1. forsaking all knowne sinnes 2. Doing all the knowne will of God 3. Growing in grace as saith Smith and the discov of N. Light be the only true matter of a right and lawfully consistent visible Church and congregation so as we are to joyne with no company of worshippers of God but such visible Saints as these and to acknowledge no other society a true Church whereto we are obliged to adjoyne our selves as members save only such a s●ciety Or is this sufficient for the nature and right constitution of a true visible Church that the company that we are to joyne our selves unto as visible members have in it these true markes of a visible Church The pure word of God purely preached and the Sacraments duely administred with discipline according to Gods word and withall a people externally professing the fore-said faith suppose they cannot give to us manifest tokens and evidences that they are effectually called and partakers of the divine nature and translated from death to life and are elected called and justified This latter we hold as the truth of God these of the Separation hold the former Now we must carefully distinguish here what are to be distinguished for there are many questions infolded here of divers natures For 1. The question is if the society have the word seales and right discipline and they professe the truth suppose their lives be wicked whether they should not be answerable to that which they professe I Answer No doubt they ought to be answerable to their light and obey the holy calling 2. What if many of them leade a life contrary to that which they professe and yet the governours use not the rod of discipline to censure them then whether should the members separate from that Church They ought to separate say the Separatists They ought not to separate from the Church and worship say we they are to stay with their Mother but to plead with her and modestly and seasonably say that Archippus and others doe not fulfill their Ministry which they have received of the Lord. 3. What if there be purity of doctrine but extreame wickednesse contrary to their doctrine whether is that company a true Church or not I answer it is a true visible and a teaching or right ministeriall Church but for as farre as can be seene not a holy not a sanctified Church and therefore must not be deserted and left 4. What if the guides receive in as members of the Church those who are knowne to be most scandalous and wicked and not such Saints as Paul writeth unto at Rome Corinth Ephesus Colosse Answ. The faults of the guides are not your faults who are private members you are to keepe publike communion in the publike ordinances of Christ but not to take part with their unfruitfull workes but rather to reprove them 5. What if the members of the Church can give no reall proofes that they are inwardly called sanctified and justified and yet you see no scandalous out-breakings in them to testifie the contrary I answer for as much as grace may be under many ashes as a peece of gold amongst mountaines of earth If they professe the sound faith they are a true visible Church and we are to acknowledge them as such and to joyne our selves as members to such a society or being already members we are to remaine in that society and not to separate from it in any sort The Separation doth complaine that in our Church are as Ainsworth saith swarmes of Atheists Idolaters Papists erronious and hereticall sectaries witches charmers sorcerers theeves adulterers lyars c. The Gentiles enter unto the temple of God the holy things of God the Sacraments indifferently communicated with cleane and uncleane circumcised and uncircumcised And amongst you are thousands who cannot tell how they shall be saved So say others as M. Barrow and Smith Hence inferre they our Church is a false Church not right constitute no Spouse of Christ no royall generation not
Their Word is the savour of life unto life unto some and the savour of death unto death unto others 2 Cor. 2. 16. They are to preach with all gentlenesse waiting if God peradventure will give repentance to the gain-sayers 2 Tim 2. 24 25 26. 5. They are Embassadours in Christs steed beseeching men to be recon●iled unto God a Cor 5. 20. 6. The weapons of their warfare are mighty through God to fling downe strong holds of unbeliefe to cast downe imaginatims and every high thing that exalteth it selfe against the knowledge of God and to bring unto captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ 2 Cor 10. 4 5. and so they are to pull men out of the hands of Satan 7. They are to seeke the Lords Sheep Ezek. 34 4. Hence the object and matter that a Pastor is to worke on as a Pastor is unbelievers unborne men gain-sayers proud disobedient keeping strong holds against Christ So the nature of the Pastors office is to open the eyes of the blinde to turne them from darknesse to light and from the power of Satan unto God that they may receive forgivenesse of sinnes Act 26. 18. and this evidently evinceth that the visible and rightly constitute Church where God hath erected a Ministery is a number of blinded sinners in Satans power and in the power of darknesse for the most part while God by a Ministery delivers them suppose they professe the Faith It is also a Doctrine unknowne to the Word of God that the Church of Christ is gathered and edified formally as a Church without Christs Ministers that are sent to gaine the consent of the Bride to marry the Bridegroome Christ. It is also unknown to Scripture that Prophets are no Pastors and have no power of the pastorall calling or s●ales of the Covenant Should those bee the ordinary officers of Christ that gather sinners in to Christ and convert to the Faith of Jesus men dead in sins and trespasses who yet are neither Pastours nor Doctours sent by Christ and his Church 6. Conclusion Seeing then the Church hath no other marke and rule to looke unto in the receiving in of members into a visible Church but externall profession which is no infallible marke of a true convert the Church is rightly constitute where all borne within the visible Church and professing the Faith are received suppose many wicked persons be there Now seeing time favour of men prosperity accompanying the Gospell bring many into the Church so the Magistrate may compell men to adjoyn themselves to the true Church O saith Master Barrow Ainsworth Mr. Canne The blast of the Kings horne can make no man a member of Christs body that must be done willingly and by the Spirit of Christ not by compulsion The Magistrate say they can worke faith in none he ought indeed to abolish Idolatry set up the true Worship of God suppresse errours cause the truth to be taught yet he cannot constrain men to joyne to the Church I answer This is a senslesse reason for how doth the Magistrate abolish Idolatry set up the true worship of God It is I hope by externall force and power For the Magistrate as the Magistrate doth nothing but by an externall coactive power The Magistrate useth the sword not reasons preaching and counsell Yea this way he cannot abolish idolatry nor erect the pure worship of God for it is a worke of Gods Spirit and a willing worke that a subject forsake Idols and worship God purely at the command of a King as it is the worke of God that he believe in Christ and joyn himselfe to the Church of true believers 2. That a man by externall profession adjoyn himself to the true visible Church is not a work of saving faith as our Masters dreame for Simon Magus and Ananias and Saphira a turned members of the visible Church upon as small motives as the command of a King upon the motive of gaine and honour and were never a whit nearer Christ for all this 3. The Magistrate cannot compell men to believe nor can the Minister by preaching or the power of the keys doe it except Gods Spirit doe it but as Junius●aith ●aith he may compell men to professe beliefe but not to believe he may compell to the externall meanes not to the end 2. The Magistrate as Voetius saith may compell by remooving impediments as idols and false teachers and authoritatively 2. compell to the means Now it shall be easie to answer their Objections who wou●d prove that Saints are the onely matter of a rightly and lawfully constitute visible church First Master Barrow reasoneth against us thus The materiall Temple from the very foundation was of choyse costly stones the beames of choyse Cedars and Algummim-trees which typified the church of the new Testament Isa. 54. 11. Behold I will lay thy stones with carbuncle and thy foundations with Saphirs c. Is● 6. 17. for brasse I will bring gold Isa. 35. 8. No Lyon nor ravenous beast shall be in the mountaine of the Lord but the redeemed of the Lord Jer. 31. 34. They shall all know me from the least of them to the greatest in this mountaine there shall be no cockatrise aspe lyon leopard untill they have left their poyson Isaiah 11. 6. Answer first These places none except Anabaptists can apply according to the letter to the Church independent of every Parish may not the Separatists who ●each that there is rotten timber in their visible Temple and chalke stones Lyons Wolves Cockatrices for saith Barrow Ainsworth and all their side there are always in the Church glorious Hypocrites now such as Judas Demas Hymeneus and such hypocrites are not precious stones gold taught of God there is not a visible Church of a congregation out of Heaven where there is not a hypocrite and an unbeliever 2. The place Isa. 54. and Jer 31. is understood of the Catholick Church with whom the covenant of grace is made Isa. 54. 10. Jer 31. 31. and this covenant is not everlasting nor an eternall covenant to any one Parish Church yea nor to a Nationall Church nor to Corinth Ephesus Pergamus all which particular Churches are fallen under horrible Idolatry and in those Mountains are Lyons and Leopards and therfore as Musculus Calvin Hierom and the course of the Text cleareth he is speaking of the begunne holinesse of the whole Church of the redeemed under Christ which is finally and fully accomplished in Heaven for what use should there be of excommunication and of the Pastors and Porters care to hold out and cast out by the Church censures Lyons Leopards Cockatrices if all and every one in the Church be taught of God 3. It is beside the Text to make the Temple of Jerusalem a type of a Parish congregation it was a type of Christ Iohn 2. 21. of every beleever 1 Cor. 6. 19. and of the whole Catholike Church 4. Where it is
have we a true Ministry and there was a Church in Rome before the Lateran Councell which could constitute a true Ministry as I cleare in these distinctions for the Church of Rome it hath these parts 1. Distinction 1. The court of Rome and Clergy 2. The seduced people 2. Distinction There is a teaching court professing and teaching Popery and obtruding it upon the consciences of others 2. There is a people professing and believing this with heat of zeal 3. A people misled ignorant not doubting but following 4. There is a people of God Come out of her my people ergo there is a covenanted people of God there 2 Thess. Antichrist shall sit in the Temple of God ergo GOD hath a Temple in Rome A third Distinction is necessary a true Church is one thing veritate Metaphysicâ with the verity of essence as a sick-man or a man wanting a legg is a true man and hath a reasonable soule in him and a true Church veritate Ethicâ a Church morally true that is a sound whole a pure Church professing the sound faith that is another thing Rome is a sick-Church and a maimed and lamed Church wanting legs and armes and so is not morally a true Church for vile corruption of Doctrine is there as we say a thief is not a true man but a false and a taking man yet he hath a mans nature and a reasonable soule in him the question is if Rome have the soul life and being of a Church A fourth Distinction is That the question is either of a teaching Church and a Ministeriall professing Christ the Word and Baptisme or of a believing Church and Spouse of Christ. The fifth Distinction is If Rome relatively be a wife in comparison of other Churches or if Rome absolutely in her self be a Church The sixth Distinction is If Rome be jure and merito a Spouse or an Harlot or de facto a wife not having received a Bill of Divorcement as the Church of the Iewes The seventh Distinction is If Rome according to some parts be a Spouse and keepeth any list of marriage kindnes to her husband or if she be according to other parts a cast off whore The eighth and last is if Rome be materially a Church having in it the Doctrine of faith or if formally it bee no Church having no professed faith that hath the nature of faith Hence shortly I say The Court of Rome as Popish is the falling-sicknesse of the Church not the Church But the same Court teaching something of Christ baptisme good-works c hath something of the life and being of a Church howbeit she be not a whole Church her skinne being leprous pocky and polluted 1. Because in a Church that is no Church there cannot be a true feale of Gods covenant but in the Court of Rome there is true baptisme for we baptize not againe children once baptized there some of the Separation called it Idoll-baptisme and no baptisme which is Anabaptisme for then all converted Papists must be baptized againe no lesse then converted Turkes and Iewes But 1. The covenant is there Come out of her my people then their baptisme confirmeth this covenant 2. Circumcision even in apostate Israel is true circumcision her barnes the Lords barnes Ezech. 16. 21. hee is Israels God the holy one of Israel in the midst thereof In Hezokiahs reformation the people ate the Passeover and yet all had corrupted their wayes and had beene a long time worshipping Idols and they are not 2 Chro. 30. circumcised againe and yet Exod. 12. none but the circumcised might eate the ` Passeover 2. Because the word of God and so the contract of Marriage is professed amongst them and so there is an externall active calling there and the word of the covenant sounding amongst them and a passive calling also because many secretly believe and obey 3. Many fundamentall truths are taught that may beget faith and so there are true and valid pastorall acts in that Church 2. I say there is an hid and invisible Church and Temple in Rome and these God warneth to come out of Babel and these we by writings cry unto that they would forsake their harlot mother and worship the Lord in truth and they obey howbeit they dare not professe the truth But the teaching Church teaching Popery and fundamentall truths and obtruding them upon the consciences of others is not the believing Church and so not the spouse and body of Christ. 3. Rome now compared with Paules Rome which he did write unto is no Church no spouse as a whorish wife compared with her selfe in her first moneth to her Husband while she was chaste is now when she imbraceth the bosome of a stranger no wife and yet Rome compared with Indians who worship Sathan with Persians who worship the Sunne with the Egyptians who worshipped gods growing in their gard●ns as Oneons and Garlick for so Juvenal O sanctas gentes quibus haec nascuntur in hortis Numina I say being compared with these they are the Lords Temple 2 Thes. 24. Rev. 18. 4. and his Wife as one saith well apostate Israel compared with Syrians Philistines is counted Gods people having the true God for their God 2 King 5. 8 15 17. But being compared with Judah which ruled with God and was faithfull with the Saints is called no wife but an harlot Hose 2. 2 5. 4. 15. 5. 3 4. 4. Rome iure and merito in her bad deserving to her Lord is no wife no Church no spouse no people in covenant with God and yet de facto and formally in possession in profession and for matrimoniall tables which she keepeth is a Church and differeth from the Jewes as a Church and no Church 1. Because albeit the Jewes have the old Testament which implicity and by interpretation is the covenant yet they want two things which Rome hath which destroyeth the essence of a true Church 1. The Iewes give not so much as a virtuall consent to the Marriage and the very externall active calling and invitation to come to Christ and all ministeriall publishing of the newes of salvation is removed from them Acts 13. 46. but there is a virtuall consent to the Marriage with Christ in Rome and salvation there in the word and some ministeriall and pastorall publication thereof as in the seed 2. Iewes directly oppugne the Cardinall foundation of salvation 1 Cor. 3. 11. Acts 4. 12. 1 Thes. 2. 15 16. Christ Jesus Papists professe him and have his seales amongst them especially baptisme 5. Rome in concreto according to her best part to wit secret beleevers groaning and sighing in Egypts bondage is a true Church but Rome in abstracto the faction of Papists as Papists are no spouse of Christ but the whore of Babel and mother of fornications 6. Howsoever Rome be materially a true Church having the materiall object of faith the doctrine of the old and new Testament common with us yet formally
receive the seale of the covenant The proposition he proveth from Genes 17. 10. This is my covenant and every man-childe amongst you shall bee circumcised and Rom. 4. 11. He received the signe of circumcision a seale of the righteousnesse of Faith The assumption he and others proove because murtherers drunkards swearers and whose children we baptise declare themselves not to be Christians nor faithfull nor Saints by their wicked life and so not within the covenant This argument also the Separatists use Answ. The Major is false and not proved from Gen. 17. or Rom. 4 for neither of these places speake of nearest Parents father and mother one at least the Text beareth no such thing but the contrary These are to receive the seale of the covenant whose fore-fathers are in externall profession within the covenant for God commandeth not Abraham only to circumcise his sons but all parents descended of Abraham to circumcise their seed the seed of Abraham carnally descended to all generations and so the nearest parents only are not to be looked unto 2. This argument doth either proceed according to this meaning that these infants only are to receive the seale of the covenant whose parents are within the covenant by an inward ingrafting and union by true faith besides the externall professing therof or then there is no other thing required but only externall profession that the Church without sinne may conferre the seales if the former be said it will follow that God speaketh Gen. 17. only to Abraham and his sons by faith according to the promise and only to believers but God speaketh to all Abrahams sons according to the flesh 2. Because God should speake an untruth that he were a God by reall union of faith to all that are commanded to be circumcised for he commanded thousands to be circumcised to whom he was not a God by reall union of faith therefore these words must import that nothing is more required that the Church without sin may conferre the seale of the covenant but the children to be descended of parents professing the truth and faith although the parents indeed as concerning any reall union of faith be plain strangers to the covenant and members of the Church only as an arme of wood is a member of the body which being true as it must be said the assumption is weake and sick ●or the question is what it is to be externally within the covenant it is not to slee all knowne sinnes to be a chosen people a people taught of God for then God would not have commanded Joshua Chap. 5. to circumcise all Israel because their fathers externally were within the covenant as this argument would say for their fathers were a generation of unbelievers who knew not God who tempted him and grieved his holy Spirit in the wildernesse and professed themselves by their murmuring never to be truly within the covenant Then to professe the doctrine of the covenant is but to be borne Iewes and avow the Lord in externall profession and Deut. 29. sweare a covenant with him when the heart is blinded and hardned v. 4. And so by this it is cleare Joshua had commandement of God to give the seale of the covenant to their children who were as openly wicked against the Lord as murtherers drunkards swearers c. 3. This argument will prove circumcision could lawfully be given to none but the children of parents within the covenant that is professedly knowne to be faithfull holy and se●arated from the prophane world in the judgement of c●arity this hath no warrant of the word For 1. The children of the mo●t wicked were circumcised Iosh. 5. 2. We desire to know whom God forbad to be circumcised that were carnally descended of Abraham Or shew us ex●mple or precept therof in the Word 3. What God required in the parents whose Infants the Church might lawfully and without sin circumcise so they were borne Iewes O saith Mr. Best they behooved to be members of the Church whose infants might lawfully be circumcised I answer that is ignotum per ignotius Shew me one person being a borne Iew whose child the Lord forbad to circumcise 2. What is it to be a member of the Iewish Church Is it to bee a visible Saint and taught of God I true that was required indeed to make men acceptable before God but to make one a visible member of the Iewish Church visible nothing was required but to be a borne Iew and professe Gods truth and keepe them from externall ceremoniall pollutions I mean to be a member of the visible Church to keep externall and Church-communion with the rest of Gods people Secondly they object Not onely must they be in profession within the covenant but also members of some visible Church and particular congregation that is that they be within the Church for we have nothing to do to judge them that are without 1 Cor. 5. 12. And this M. Best Proveth by the order required in Gods Church putting a difference betwixt Church-communion and Christian-communion A man may be a just peaceable quiet man and so meet to be a Citizen in a City but he hath not right to the priviledges of the brughe untill he come to them by due order so must a man not onely be a Christian ere his childe be baptized but also a member of a visible Church Answ. 1. This Objection proceedeth from a great mistake as if Church-communion with a particular independent congregation were more and a better and nearer ground of baptizing then Christian-communion which we judge to be false because the Catholick Church is by order of nature and first and more principally the body spouse redeemed flocke of Christ then any particular independent congregation that is but a part or member of the Catholike Church and therfore the covenant promises of grace the power of the keys the seals of the covenant belong first principally to the Catholike Church to these that are in Christian communion with her before they belong to this or that visible part of the Catholick Church and so all ecclesiastick power of the keys must be first more principally in the Catholick Church then in a particular congregatiō as a reasonable soul by order of nature is in man before it be in Peter Thomas or Iohn 2. I believe these are within that are professours of the true faith suppose they be not members of the Church of Corinth or of any setled Church it is enough if they be within the covenant and these are without only who are Infidels and Pagans not professing the true and sound faith as the Apostle meaneth 1 Cor. 5. 12. Baptisme is a priviledge of the Church not a priviledge of such a particular independent Church and the distinction betwixt Christian-communion and Church-communion in this point is needlesse and fruitlesse for none are to be refused of baptisme whose parents professe the faith and Christian-communion Howbeit
knowne three wayes 1. When the naked naturall images or species of the materiall object are only cast in by God and no more and this is most in dreames as Nebuchadnezar saw a tree in his dreame but knew not that it was a King Pharoah saw seven blasted reeds and seven leane kine but knew not that they were seven yeares of Famine And sometimes in a vision being in an extasie as John Rev. 1. saw 1. seven candl●sticks but knew not that they were the seven Churches of Asia while Christ revealed the meaning to him 2. The images and species are knowne formally as signes signifying thus and thus as Joseph by a propheticall light saw the seven leane kine to be seven yeares of famine 3. Now there is a third light to judge of the act of seeing which I take to be two-fold 1. When the Seer and Prophet is perswaded that what he seeth is a propheticall vision and not a delusion of Satan this is as saith Pareus the very light of prophecy or some extraordinary light as saith Anto Walleus There is another light whereby the Seer beleeveth these things shall come to passe which he seeth either by a common light of historicall faith as Pharoah might beleeve that seven yeares of plenty should come and Balaam that Christ the starre of Jacob should certainly arise and shine upon the Church or the Seer seeth and beleeveth by light of saving faith as Isaiah and Daniel beleeved that the Messiah should be slai●e and this latter light whatever good Schoole-men say on the contrary is the light of faith for the three former lights might well be in Balaam 1. He might see in his fantasie the species of the starre of Jacob. 2. And know that they meaned no other thing then the Messiah 3. And be certainly perswaded that he saw so and that he was not deluded yea and historically beleeve that that blessed Starre should arise and yet he had no light of saving faith to beleeve that the Messiah should come So h●●e we cannot but distinguish betwixt a propheticall light in the second and third sight which is gratia gratis data a free gift and the light of saving faith which is gratia gratum fa●iens a saving grace of GOD in the sound beleever onely in this last sight 4. Conclus Hence Separatists may see that extraordinary acts of prophecy may well be subjected to the determination of the Church and yet be extraordinary inspirations and that divers wayes 1. Because the● were Prophets of the New Testament and so grace being more aboundant now nor under the old Testament it can bow and facilitate free-will to acts of prophecying and Paul from more grace laboured more aboundantly then they all 2. Prophecying at that time in Corinth might well be obtained by prayer upon the extraordinary impulsion of the spirit as Daniel obtained by prayer the interpretation of a dreame neither can it be proved from 1 Cor. 14. that Paul willeth them all without exception to covet to speake with tongues and to prophecy but only these that were extraordinarily moved to pray except these v. 31. yea may all prophecy be contrary to these words 1 Cor. 12. 29. are all Prophets which we cannot say 3. Because it was of old in the power of Prophets to use some meanes to dispose themselves to prophecy for when the passion of anger overclouded the fancy and the species therin then Elisha calleth for a minstrell to play and dispose the minde better as Ca●etan saith Howbeit for all that the Text saith the hand of the Lord only actuated these species and caused him to prophecy Neither are Robinsons arguments of great weight I answer only these that have most apparency 1 If the Lords giving of the spirit extraordinary to Eld●d and Medad made them Prophets both in office and exercise by due proportion gifts under the New Testament are sufficient to make men ordinary Prophets Answ. The antecedent is false because to Eldad and Medad were given both the spirit of prophecy and from that gifted spirit came a propheticall impulsion actually to prophecy without any farther call of the Church for God spake then by impulsion as he doth now by his Word els one may say the physicall and naturall power that Samuell had to kill Agag was a calling sufficient to authorize him to kill ●gag and an hability to discharge the office of the high-Priest in a man of the tribe of Iudah were a good calling for one so gifted to thrust himselfe in Aarons chair which God tyed only to Levies Tribe 2. This is that which Epi●copius Se●inians and Arminians teach from Anabaptists so The●phil Nicolai● And Radaecius Catech. of Raccovia Ostorod Socinus the 〈◊〉 1. That the sending and calling of Ministers by the Church n●w when the Gospell is sufficiently promulgated is not necessary 2. That any gifted man hath a warrant because he is gifted to be a Pastour without any call or authority officiall from the Church And what will Robinson say because these Prophe●s are gifted to baptize and to administer the Supper of the Lord as well as they are to preach the Gospell then by this goodly reason of his they may be pastors without any calling of the Church and certainly any man gifted to be a King and a Magistrate by the calling that the Word of God alloweth sh●ll by this reason have a call to leape up to the throne and the bench but our Divines as Calvin Parcus Zanchius Iunius Beza make two dif●e●rent things in a lawfull calling 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 gifts for the calling which is not enough 2. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 authority from the Church which is also required 2. He objecteth 2 Chron. 17. 7. Jehoshaphat sent his Princes to teach the cities of Judah with the Levites and all Princes and Ma●istrates are bound to expound open up and apply the law by which they governe else they rule by tyranny Hence the publick Sermon of Jehoshaphat 2 Chron. 19. to the Iudges and Levites and his prayer and Hezekiahs Sermons 2 Chr 29. and Nehemiah taught the people Neh. 8. Answ. 1. Iunius and Ar. Mont●● Iehoshaphat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Shalach Lesarou read he sent with the Princes the Levites to teach so that the Princes were not sent to teach 2. It is said hee sent the Princes to teach not in their owne persons but hee sent them to take care that the Levites should teach in time of that Apostacy 3. The Kings and Judges were to teach according to the judiciall Law the equity of their sentence to the ill doer as a Judge to convince a thiefe and a murtherer may lay before him the eighth and the sixt commandement in so farre as the breach of these disturbeth the peace of the common-wealth not as they are Church scandals and whither the male-factor be convinced or not the Judge punisheth with the sword so that
A PEACEABLE AND TEMPERATE PLEA FOR PAVLS PRESBYTERIE IN SCOTLAND OR A modest and Brotherly Dispute of the government of the Church of SCOTLAND Wherein Our Discipline is demonstrated to be the true Apostolick way of divine Truth and the Arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved the grounds of Separation and the Indepencie of particular Congregations in defence of Ecclesiasticall Presbyteries Synods and Assemblies are examined and tryed By Samuell Rutherfurd Professor of Divinity at Saint Andrews PSAL. 48. 12. Walke about Zion and goe round about her tell the Towers thereof VER 13. Marke yee well her Bulwarks consider her Pallaces that yee may tell it to the generations following LONDON Printed for Iohn Bartlet at the guilt-Cup neare St Austins-gate 1642 TO THE HONOVRABLE And truly Noble Lord Earle of Lindsey Lord JOHN PARBROTH c. one of his Majesties Honourable Privy Councell Grace Mercy and Peace c. COnsidering my Lord your Lordships good minde and constant fidelity and care in advancing this blessed Reformation and fending both your shoulders to hold up the Kingdome of our LORD JESUS and also your singular respect and reall affection to this famous Vniversity and the faculty of Divinity in this Society I thought it rather a matter of debtfull necessity then of arbitrary election and choise that this little peece that pleadeth for the Government of the Church of Scotland should thrust it self through the thick and throng of many worthier monuments of Learning under the honourable Patrociny of your Lordships name I am not ignorant that two blocks closeth the passage to many of greater parts and abilitie then I am to adde I may have leave to borrow the word to the Presses child-birth● travelling with no end of making many books and these be the opinions of men and the event of Printing I may say of the former that Opinion is a Witch and a great Inchantresse while men call for Bookes as nice banqueters call for dishes to the Table for they make such wide oddes betwixt taste-pleasant and goodnesse of meat as if they were sworne to the roofe of their mouth rather then to health and life so that it is much more obvious to please few and gratifie none then to satisfie all And for the event it is not unlike dicing for it is doubtsome if Fame be not a lost prize in writing and if the game goe not crosse the Authors haire And such is our corruption that the ayre or figures of a printed name is a peece of our self and as our skin wherin our flesh and bones are kindly inchalmbered and so were most tender of one penny breadth of this hide or of letting one droppe of bloud of this kinde fall to the Earth Notwithstanding of these prejudices I have howbeit most unable dared to appeare also in the Presse to say somewhat in way of a peaceable defence of our Church-government in Scotland The pens of the worthy Reformers of the Christian Churches have beene so blessed in the conscience if not in the evill eye of envy it selfe that they have cleared the Scripture way of the Government of CHRISTS Kingdome to lye in a midline betwixt the Popes and Prelates lawlesse Church Monarchy and the unorderly confusion of Democracie It is not unknowne the savoury perfume and honourable name that this poore Church hath gained partly by the whole hoast of Protestant Writers and ancient Fathers who have unanimously put downe in print what wee have done in practice according to our Nationall Oath partly by the testimony of the blessed Lights and faithfull Witnesses of IESUS I might name Reverend Beza learned Brightman that manly and stout Witnesse of CHRIST M. George Wishart the body of the Confessions of Faith And it is as well manifest to the world Sunne and Moone being Witnesses what Prelates have attempted against Presbyteriall Governement but one said well I beleeve IESUS to be a good man and the Evangell blessed because Satan malice and Persecutours have done so much against them both with fire and tortures What dust of late have they raised against it in Church State Court Parliament three Kingdomes in Rome in the heart of King and many others in Campo Martio in open field yea in the Sea that the Sea should speake contrary to that stile of the Prophet I travell in birth I bring up children and nothing could be the reason but they saw the Woman looking foorth as the morning faire as the Moone cleare as the Sunne terrible as an Army with banners and when they saw Mount Zion beautifull in situation they marvelled they were troubled and hasted away And what daring insolency is this when the Prelate could not finde his Father and thought shame of his native Father Diotrephes that one D. Hall and others have put him in the line of the blood royall and printed him an office jure divino by divine right Their Predecessours were content of the good old jus humanum Yet I hope put the Prelate in the Calendar of well-borne officers bastard as he is yet many must die ere he be here This boldnesse putteth me in minde of the saying Laus nova nisi oritur vetus amittitur except Prelates grow in new honour they loose their old honour But why may we not hope that both they their god-father the Pope and their god-Mother Rome shall loose both new and old God hath fetched as broken a Ship to land and yet they will be of Divine Right Is it not true that the Learned said of necessity Necessitati quodlibet telum utile est Any clubbe is a sword good enough for poore necessity or then it is true Necessitas egentem mendacem facit Necessity turneth the poore man in a lyar or which I rather thinke Necessitas quod poscit nisi das eripit If you give not willingly to necessity what it suiteth it must take it by strong hand and club-law CHRIST hath fairely begun to his Vniversall conquest Gird thy sword upon thy thigh ô most mighty and blessed shall all ages to come call all these Nobles who have shoulders to carry one stone to the raising of the wall of this Temple and to build the Citie whose name is the LORD is there And in this course my Lord live flourish and grow and JEHOVAH build you a sure house which is the prayer of Your Lordships obliged servant at all respective obedience in CHRIST SAMUEL RUTHERFURD To the Christian Reader I Am bold reverend and Christian Reader to appeare in print to contribute my weake judgement for the government of the Church of Scotland In which suite I have to doe with foes and friends To the former I speake not now I meane Prelates Papists and haters of the truth I doubt not but I am condemned in their books of both errours and crimes my hope to prevaile with such is small if that be true Damnati lingua vocem habet vim
of the keyes without any subjection to any superiour Ecclesiasticall indicatorie p. 187. CHAP. 14. QVEST. 14. Whether or no the power Ecclesiasticall of Synods can be proved from the famous Councell holden at Jerusalem Acts 15. p. 199. CHAP. 15. QVEST. 15. Whether or noe by other valid Arguments from Gods word the lawfulnesse of Synods and Assemblies can be concluded p. 217. CHAP. 16. QVEST. 16. Whether or no it can be demonstrated from Gods Word that all particular Congregations have of and within themselves full power of Church-discipline without any subiection to Presbyteries Synods and higher Church-Assemblies where also the question about publike prophecying of such gifted men as are not in office is discussed against the tenent of Separatists p. 231. CHAP. 17. QVEST. 17. Whether or no some doe warrantably teach that no man hath Pastorall power to preach and administer the Sacraments as a Pastor without the bounds of his owne Congregation And from whence essentially is the calling of a Minister from the Presbytery or from the people p. 260. CHAP. 18. QVEST. 18. Certaine Quares or doubts following upon the Doctrine of independent Congregations p. 272. CHAP. 19. QVEST. 19. Doubts generally seeming to oppose Presbyteriall government discussed and loosed as anent ruling Elders Deacons Widowes the power of Kings in matters Ecclesiastick p. 280. CHAP. 20. QVEST. 20. Whether or no the government of the Church of Scotland can be demonstrate from the cleare testimonies of Gods Word p. 362. CHAPTER I. Whether the power of the Keyes of the Kingdome of CHRIST be conferred upon the multitude of believers as upon the first and proper subject or upon the Church-guides THe Question is not understood of that Royall and Kingly power of excellency and Independencie called all power which is only in Christ Iesus but of the supreme Ministeriall power as all expound it Bucanus Cartwright Amesius Parker that is given to the Church By the Keyes wee understand not the Monarchicall power of Teaching supreme defining Articles of faith and judging the Scriptures as the Jesuites of Rhemes doe dreame Vulcane not Christ made these Keyes We deny not what Bellarmine saith that the keyes signifie a Princedome in Scripture as the key of Davids house promised to Eliakim This key Christ only keepeth Chrysostome and Gregory both say that the care of the whole Christian Church was committed to Peter which proveth not his Princedome but only his ministeriall power given to all the Apostles as well as to him but the Metaphor is borrowed from a Steward or Master-household who hath the keyes of the house given to him to open and shut doores at his pleasure as Calvin Bucan Whitaker explaine it well and it is the power of preaching and governing given to the guides of the Church as servants to open and shut Heavens doore to believers or impenitent persons If wee rightly proceed these distinctions are to bee considered 1. There is a power physicall and a power morall of the Keyes 2. A power popular of the Keyes that belongeth to all and a power authoritative that belongeth to the Guides only 3. The power of the Keyes is in Christ as in the formall subject and fountaine 2. In the Church of believers as in the finall object seeing all this power is for the Church 3. In the Guides as in the exemplar cause representing the Church as we say the image is in the glasse and learning in the booke and this Petrus de Alliaco and Gerson hath the like 4. The Keyes may be thought to be given Mat. 16. to Peter as Prince and King of the Apostles as Papists say or 2. As Peter representeth the Church of believers as some say or 3 As bearing the person of Church guides as we shall demonstrate God willing 5. There is a power ordinary and a power extraordinary 6. The Keyes may be thought to be conferred by Christ immediately either by the immediation of Christs free donation and gift or or by the immediation of simple designation in the former respect the keyes were given by Christ once to the Apostles and still to the Worlds end to the Church guides immediately without the Churches power intervening in the later respect Christ giveth the keyes mediately by the popular consent and election of the Church of believers who doe under Christ designe and choose this person rather than that person Thomas rather than John for the sacred office of weelding the Keyes neither is any man now elected immediately by Christ as the Apostles were 7. Then we may well distinguish in this question these foure 1. Power physicall 2. Power morall 3. Power of order and jurisdiction 4. The use and exercise of that power Wee are to observe that it hath beene a noble and grave Question betwixt the Church of Rome and the Vniversitie of Paris as Spalanto and Robert Parker with others have observed whether Christ hath given the power of the keyes immediately to all the faithfull and by them to the Pastours and Doctors as the Parisians hold so teacheth Almain Ioan. Major Gerson and Occam or if Christ hath given the keyes immediately to the Church guides as we maintaine from Gods Word The mistake hath beene that some Doctors believe that the power of the keyes seeing it is for the good of the whole Church must have some common subject viz. the universall Church in which it must for orders cause first reside before it be given to certaine guides But neither Scripture nature nor reason requireth such a shifting of the keyes from hand to hand seeing Christ can keep them and immediately put them in their trust whom he liketh best Hence for the determination of the Question I. Conclusion The physicall power of the keyes is given to men as they are professors that is men and not Angels are capable of that power for when they are made members of the visible Church they are differenced both from Angels and Infidels as Pagans and Turkes for Angels according to Christs humble love and deepe wisedome are not upon the list to be office bearers in his house but this is not formally a power of the keyes but a popular power about the keyes whereby popular consent may be given to the key-bearers for their election II. Conclusion There is a power popular but not authoritative a power of private Christians not an officiall power of charge given to the visible professors to make choise of their owne office-bearers those against whom we now dispute brethren reverend learned and holy doe confound and take for one and the same the power of electing or choosing officers and the power of Ordination And they make election of Elders which by Gods Word is due to all the faithfull an act of jurisdiction whereas it is a private and popular●act flowing from that spirit of grace in believers and from
him as he is a believer an Elder should not be a Lord over the flock it is required of a Steward that hee bee faithfull as a Steward that he ordaine Elders and these men of good report that he receive not an accusation against an Elder Now I hope these are not required of believers as believers neither were the Epistles to Timothy and Titus written so much to these men as believers as to them as holy Elders and Pastours And yet if the power of the keyes bee common to all the faithfull these Epistles are written to all believers primely to men and believing children how they should use the keyes ordaine Elders receive Witnesses governe the Church Deare Brethren see this and consider it for your good 10. Argument That which maketh the government of Gods house Democraticall and popular is not to bee taught but this Opinion is such as I hope to prove hereafter 11. Argument If the power of the keyes be given to believers as believers Then all and only believers have the power of the keyes Quod convenit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 convenit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That which agreeth to any thing reduplicative and for this formall reason it agreeth to that subject only But all and only believers have not the power of the keyes for the Major Parker teacheth The keyes were given to Peter as a believer not as an Apostle I prove the Assumption The believers three or foure may be excommunicated and that justly in which case they remaine believers and yet being no members of the Church cannot have the power of the keyes also many have the power of the keyes yea and are pastours that are not believers as Christ saith Have not I chosen you twelve and yet one of you is a Divell Many will say to me in that day Lord we have prophefied in thy name and in thy name cast out Divels c. and yet they are workers of iniquity never knowne of Christ as his elect So some enemies to Paul and wicked men Phil. 1. Haters of the Gospell and yet preached it in such sort that Paul rejoyced that Christ was preached Now if they bee not believers that are pastours their pastorall acts of baptizing and administring the Sacraments are null seeing they have no power of the keyes many shall doubt if they have beene baptized because they may happily doubt yea too justly doubt of the beliefe and so of the pastours power of the keyes Yea six or ten professors and visible Saints are an independent congregation and so have the power of the Keyes to appoint an Eldership to Excommunicate and yet these ten may be faithlesse hyppocrites hence all their acts of the keyes are null It is knowne how Austin Jerome and the Fathers contend that the Baptisme of Heretikes is lawfull 12. If I shall once for all here cleare from Antiquitie that the Eldership hath only the keyes I also prove from Antiquitie 1. A Presbyteriall and representative Church 2. That the congregation of believers is not an independent Senate to ordaine an Eldership and deprive them 3. That the prime ground of an independent congregation hath no ground in Antiquitie Polycarpus Pastour of Smyrna an hearer of the Apostles as is thought An. 143. willeth the Philippians to submit themselves to the Elders and Deacons as to Christ. Irenaeus the Disciple of Polycarpus admonisheth the faithfull of the same Tertullian An. 226. saith The Elders had the charge of excommunication and censures Ignatius very ancient if we believe antiquitie describeth our very Scotish Presbyterie and calleth it a Senate of Pastours and Elders that was in the Church in his time So Origen who lived with Tertullian resembleth the Presbytery to the Senate of a Citie and Ruffinus agreeth with them Cyprian the presbyters and other officers have the power of the keyes So the Nicen Councell saith as the Mageburgen and Socrates say Aurelius was ordained by Cyprian and his colleagues he requireth that the multitude he present to consent but that the Presbyteries ordaine Cyprian ascribeth the same opinion to Firmilianus So Clemens Alexandrinus Discipline is in the hands of the Presbyters Basil also establisheth a Presbyteriall Senate of moe parishes as is our Scotish Presbyterie and that by the authoritie of the ancient Fathers Athanasius conjoyneth the people and Clergie in ordination and election and giveth to every one of them their owne part Jerome his minde is knowne to all So Dionysius Alexandrin The Synod of Antioch writing to the Church about Samosetanus calleth themselves Pastours Elders and Deacons So also the Councell of Carthage 4. Ambros. in 1 Tim 5. or the ancient author of that Commentarie acknowledgeth the government by the Presbyterie to be most ancient And Augustine against Crescon acknowledgeth this and Gregor They both give the power of censures Presbyteris senioribus to the Pastours and Elders So for this also Eusebius Zonaras Theodoret Chrysostome and farther Nazianzen To oversee and governe is due to the Pastours The Ancient confession of the Waldenses An. 1535. offered to the King of Boheme approved by Luther Melanchton Bucer and Musculus approveth the government by Pastours Deacons and Elders Wickliffe Iohn Hus and Hierome of Prage adhereth to this confession as Aeneas Sylvius witnesseth This was a point laid upon Wicklisse condemned in the Councell of Constanoe as Bellarmine saith That Ecclesiasticall power is given immediately to the Officers So the Councell of Toled 8. yea and Baronius himselfe saith Christ breathed his power immediately on the Apostles Iohn 20. The Papists giving the highest power of jurisdiction to an Oecumenick Councell teach this The Councell of Constance saith A generall Councell hath its power immediately from Christ. A Generall Councell of theirs at Lawsanne An. 1440. A Generall Councell at Pisa An. 1512 as they call it So the Generall Councell of Basil confirmed as they say by Pope Martine the fifth So also many famous Vniversitie as the Vniversitie of Cullen consulted advised and required by Theodor. Archbishop of Cullen the Vniversitie of Erford of Cracovia of Paris To adde our owne Divines Calvin Luther Melanchton Martyr Musculus c. were supersluous CHAPTER II. Quest. 2. Whether or no some do warrantably prove from Scriptures that the power of the keyes is given to all the faithfull IT is needfull that we discusse the Arguments of these who ascribe this power to the faithfull And 1. Parker reasoneth thus proving the keyes to be given to Peter not as hee sustained the person of an Apostle but as he sustained the person of all the faithfull Mat. 16. Peter sustaineth his person here whose he representeth in other places but in other places he representeth the person of believers Ergo The Keyes are given to him ●ere as he representeth the person of believers And so the keyes are given to all believers Mat.
rebuke him from this Text. 14. Christ immediately and without the mediation of the Church saith Parker communicateth himselfe to beleevers ergo he communicateth his power also immediately to his Church Ans. It followeth not because he communicateth not his power of the keyes to the Church of believers either mediately or immediately because he giveth it not to them at all CHAP. V. Q. Whether or no some doe warrantably teach that the power of the Keyes is essentially and originally in the Church of Beleevers and in the Church-guides only at the second hand and in the by quoad exer●itium so as the Church of Believers should be the mistresse delegating the keyes by an imbred and kindly authority and the Church-guides as her proper servants and delegats do borrow the use and exercise of the keyes from the foresaid Church of Believers THe tenent of these with whom we now dispute is that all the power of the keyes is given by Christ to the multitude of Believers as to the first fountaine and that this power is derived and gested by the mulmultitude of believers to such and such persons to be used and exercised by them as the servants both of Christ and the Church For the clearing of the question and trying if this distinction be law-biding These distinctions are to be observed 1. The power of the keyes may be thought to come to the Ministers of the Church three waies as shall be cleared 1. By mediate derivation the Church receiving this power from Christ and deriving it over to the friends of the Bridegroome 2. By immediate donation God immediately giveth the honour of the keyes to these whom he maketh his Courtyers in this kinde 3. By application the Church only naming the men to the office 2. The power of the keyes and all sacred offices in Gods House are from the immediate wisdome of Christ The designation of such men to such offices is by the ministery of the Church 3. The power of the keyes is one thing the lawfull exercise of the keyes is another thing 4. The Ministers may be thought the servants either of the Church or servants of Christ for the Church 5. Designation of men by the Church to sacred offices may be thought either in the Churches free-will or tyed to the lawes designed by Christ. 6. The Church of believers may be thought either the virtuall or the formall subiect of the keyes 7. The power of the keyes may be thought to be given to the community or multitude of Believers or professours of faith in Christ in the generall not designing one man rather then another but leaving that to the disposition of meanes and disposition of second causes who shal● be the man as to be a Musitian to be an Astronomer is given to mankinde as some way proper to man as Porphyre saith howbeit all and every one of mankinde be not alwayes Musitians and Astronomers It is thought by our Brethren that the Church of believers is the first seat the prime subject and head fountaine under Jesus Christ to whom the keyes are given and that howbeit all offices and officers be only of Christs institution yet the Church of believers doe as the Spouse and Mistresse and bride of Christ communicate the lawfull exercise of some acts of the keyes as to preach administer the Sacraments oversee the conversation of the flock care for the poore to some certain men as her deputies and servants with borrowed authority from her selfe as the Well-head and prime fountain under Christ of all the authority and use of the keyes that is in the officers of the House as Pastors Doctors and Elders the Church still keeping in her own hands authority and power of the keyes in most materiall acts of the power of the keyes as by these keyes to ordain and elect all the officers and in case of aberration or failing to censure depose excommunicate them and all members of the visible Church and that independently and without any subordination to Presbyteries Classes and Synods even as the kingly power of actuall government is in the Kings hand and he appointeth deputies and servants under himself and in his name and authority to do and execute his will according to the Laws of the Kingdom so doth the Church of believers under Christ by an imbred authority and power received from Christ send out Pastors Doctors and Elders in her name and authority to exercise certain ministeriall acts yet so as the Church of believers in all the acts performed by the officers remaineth the principall and prime agent cause and actor under Christ and the officers only her servants deputies and instruments performing all by authority borrowed from her the bride Queen and Spouse of Christ This they believe to be contained in the Scriptures and taught by Fathers and Doctors of the Church I deny not but by the faculty of Paris this question was agitated in the Councell of Basil and Constance to bring the Pope as a sonne and servant under the power of a Generall Councell The Sorbonists and Doctors of Paris that are not near the smoake of the Popes glory for this contend with the Jesuites men that are sworne bellies to the world and the Pope The Parisians cite the Councell of Carthage where Augustine was present And Augustine and Tertullian and Chrysostome seeme to favour this So Maldonate Ferus Jansenius Sutluvius Whittaker Morton Spalato Gerson Almain Petr. de Alliac Also Edmundus Richerius and Sim. Vegorius set out a booke of Church policy depressing the Pope and extolling the Church power as full and compleat without a ministeriall head as their owne Parisian Doctors acknowledging the command of having a Pope to be affirmative and not to bind alwayes and that the Churches power remaineth full when the Pope is dead as the Parisians say p. 8. The booke came out without the name of an Authour and was condemned by Cardinall Peronius Archbishop of Senona and Primate of France and Germany and is refuted by Andreas Duvallius a Sorbonist What our Divines say in this I have exponed to be far otherwise then is the mind of Parker M. Jacob M. Best and the Authours of presbyteriall government examined Ann. 1641. Hence our first conclusion is All offices and office-bearers in Gods house have their warrant immediately from Christ Jesus as we all agree against the bastard prelacy 1. because of the perfection and plenitude of Scripture 2 because of our Law-giver Christs wisedome and his seven Spirits that are before the Throne seeing he seeth better then men 3. because of the Scriptures Eph. 4. 11. Rom. 12. 7 8 9. w 1 Cor. 12. 26 27 28 29. 1 Tim. 3. Act. 20. ●8 And therefore Presbyters and Deacons have their offices immediately from Christ and not from the Prelates 11. Conclusion The first subject of the keyes is either made quate or narrower as one Pastor and some ruling Elders of
and Pauls Epistles to Collosse Eph●sus Galatia laid an Ecclesiasticall tye upon these Churches that consented not to the writing of these Epistles not onely because the matter is the Canonicke word of God but also the tye was Ecclesiasticall in so farre as the flocke is obliged to heare the Pastor according to that He that heareth you heareth me and he that despiseth you despiseth me Any absent through sicknesse or other distractions from the election of Matthias Acts 1. the seven Deacons Acts 6. and the Elders chosen in every City Acts 14. 23. were tyed to stand to the election of Matthias the seven Deacons and the Elders in every City else no act of the Church were valid where one or two dis-assenteth or where two or three are absent by sicknesse and other distractions insuperable And so here our brethren I beleeve cannot in reason deny but there is a representative Church whose deed tyeth the absents And the reason is cleare that to make a Church-constitution oblige in conscience and ecclesiastically there is not required as an essentiall ingredient of obligation that all and every one who are tyed and obliged be personally present to voyce and consent to the constitution for constitutions tye Ecclesiastically as made by the Church but not as made by all and every one of the Church And the lawfulnesse of Commissioners to represent the case of the Church is cleare in Gods Word as Antioch sent Commissioners to Jerusalem Acts 15. Jerusalem sent Barnabas their Messenger to Antioch 11. 22. But Titus Timotheus Epaphroditus and others were sent by the Churches and to the Churches as Commissioners and Embassadours of the Church of Christ. CHAP. VIII Quest. 8. If our Saviour doth warrant a Church of Elders and Overseers in these words Mat. 18. Tell the Church WE have an argument of weight for a Presbyteriall Church in our Saviours words Mat. 18. 17. If thy brother offending neglect to heare them the Christian witnesses before whom he is convinced of his ●ault tell the Church but if he neglect to heare the Church Let him be to thee as a heathen and a Publicane v. 18. Verily I say to you whatsoever ye bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever ye lose on earth shall be loosed in heaven The Septuagint agreeth with Matthew 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 So Arias Montanus Tremell Beza Pareus Musc●lus Lyra Hug. Cardinalis Caieta● Aquinas It is not much matter that Castalio turneth Tell the Assembly of the Commons Augustine Cyprian Hyeronim and all are against him The scope of these words is not as many beleeve that our Saviour setteth downe a way how to remove private offences done betwixt brother and brother onely 1. Because the words then should not prove the lawfulnesse of excommunicating for publike and scandalous sinnes 2. The scope is as large as binding and loosing on earth and proportionally in heaven But our Saviours ayme is to establish a Church consistory for removing all scandals and offences out of the Church private and publike betwixt brother and brother and betwixt Church and Church Neither is there ground for the foresaid scope because he saith If thy brother offend in the singular number for what if three sixe tenne brethren offend is not this course of our Saviours to be taken if sixe offend sixe Hence it followeth that the Church here signifieth not onely the Eldership of a particular Congregation but it signifieth respectively all Presbyteries and Synods Provinciall Nationall and Oecomenicke for seeing Excommunication and Ecclesiasticall binding and loosing is Christs remedy against all scandals private or publike in Christs kingdome then by a brother by a Synechdoche is meant all that offendeth then if a sister-Church offend a sister-Church or a Provinciall or Nationall Church offend a neighbour sister-Church Christs remedies being Catholike and universall as farre as our diseases goe the course must be to Tell the Church I purpose then first to shew this interpretation to be agreeable to the mind of all Doctors acknowledging one Church of Elders here and next to prove our interpretation Chrysostome Tell the Overseers Augustine Tell the Watchmen Hieron We must tell many So Cyprian so the Councell of Ancyra So Ambrose Ball saith The Aethiopicke Interpreter saith Tell the house of Christians Boderian Tell the house of Judgements All our Divines say this Calvin Beza Pureus Chemnitius Aretius Erasmus Polunus Hemmigius Hyperius Musculus Iunius Piscator Bucanus Rivetus Cartwright Marlorat Dan. Tossun Bu●er The harmony of confess Helvet French English Vrsine Whittaker So Papists Emanuel S● Victor Parisian Doctors Fathers of Basill and Constance Joan Gerson Iac. Almain Simon Vigorius Aquinas Occam What Bilson Downam Sutluvius saith against this is answered by Parker Ant. Waleus and other worthy divines That the Church of Elders is here understood I prove Christ here alludeth to the Synedry and Consistory of the Jewes with which his hearers were well acquainted for he was now speaking to the Jewes who knew his language well and knew these termes Brother witnesses Sunedry Assembly Congregation Heathen Publicane and knew what Church had power to cast out and repute men for Publicanes and sinners For as Beza observeth who would understand Christ here to speake of a Christian Presbytery that has power to excommunicate except we consider that Christ has a respect in this forme of speech to the Iewes Church-policy And Christ in like manner Mat. 5. 22. accomodateth his speech to the forme of the Jewes judicatories For many learned note out of the Talmud that the Jewes had three judicatories noted there 1. The Triumviri judged small matters 2. Their Synedry consisting of twenty three judges more weighty matters and inflicted more weighty punishments and 3. the great Councell of 71. Judges did handle questions about false prophets the High-priest and of other weightiest causes and therefore he sheweth the punishment of an offending brother amongst the Iewes too darkly but these judicatories were well knowne to them And here excommunication is expressed in Jewish tearmes in use at that time Let him be to thee as a heathen that is a stranger from the common wealth of Israel not one of the true Chu●ch but such a one as they called Goijm So Drusius and Beza on this place Now Tell the Church Kahal to those that know the Iewes forme of speech must be Tell the Elders of the Congregation amongst them the multitude no more judged causes then we would thinke him excommunicated who is esteemed one not 〈◊〉 borne of Abraham and so all the whole Church of the Gentiles should be excommunicated So Franc. Iohnson 2. The Church of beleevers convened together is still a Church met together for hearing the Word receiving the Sacraments 1 Cor. 11. 18 19. 1 Cor. 14 19 20 21. In which none are to speake but Pastors and as the Separatists say Prophets and not all private persons but this
a people who hath Christ for King Priest and Prophet We on the contrary hold this as our fourth conclusion That howbeit openly and grossely prophane wicked persons as knowne atheists and mockers of Religion Idolaters papists heretickes sorcerers witches theeves adulterers c. are not to be keeped in the Church but to be excommunicated nor yet to be received into the Church as members thereof untill they give evidences of their repentance Yet we say that there is nothing required more as touching the essentiall properties and nature of being members of a Church as visible but that they professe before men the faith and desire the seales of the Covenant and crave fellowship with the visible Church which I prove 1. From the manner of receiving members in the Apostolike Church where nothing is required but a professed willingnesse to receive the Gospell howbeit they receive it not from their heart Act. 2. 41. then they that gladly received his word Peters word were baptized and the same day were added to the Church about three thousand soules v. 45. And they sold their possessions and parted them to all men Now amongst these glad receivers of the Gospell were Ananias and Saphira ch 4. v. 34 35 36 37. chap. 6. v. 1 2 3. It is true they are all charged by Peter to repent ere they be baptized and added to the Church but the Apostles require no more to make members of the visible Church ●ut 1. professed willing receiving of the word and this receiving expressed by an outward act of selling their goods which was but hypoc●isie in Ananias and Saphira as the event declared yet were Ananias and Saphira for that time members of the Churches as truly visible and their acts of electing and chusing a Pastor and consenting to excommunicate scandalous persons in that time valid in Christs cout Yea suppose Ananias had been a preacher his preaching and baptizing should have been valid by grant of Separatists Also there is no more required by the Church of Simon Magus Act 8. v. 13. but beleeving historically at the sight of miracles and he was baptized and received into the Church presently Now this beleeving was not seene to be saving faith to Peter and the Apostles we know no wayes they had to know it seeing they know not the heart but what is said v. 13. he continued with Philip and wondred which an hypocrite might doe and he had been not long since an abhominable sorcerer and usurped the honour of God like a sacrilegious robber of the Almighty of his glory ver 9 10 11. And the like we may see of Demas who forsooke Paul 2 Tim. 4. 10 and followed the present world There was nothing to make him a member of the visible Church then but that for a while he followed Paul in his journeyes and professed the faith And the like must be said of Hymeneus and Alexander who for a time were members of the true Church as it is visible and a professing Church and this was knowne onely by their profession yet that they had but a bare profession is cleare seeing afterward they made shipwracke of faith 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. Now our brethren cannot deny but all these might and did exercise Ecclesiasticall Acts that were valid and ratified of God yea of binding and loosing and so nothing is required to make men members of a visible Church but such an outward profession of faith as may befall and hath been found in the fairest broidered and pa●mented hypocrites who have been in the Apostolike Church Also what more was in Judas even after Christ had said Have not I chosen you twelve and one of you is a Devill yet the eleven say not Lord discover him to us that we may separate from him 2. Argument If the visible Church planted and constituted lawfu●ly be a draw-net wherein are fishes of all sorts and a house wherein are vessels of silver and gold and also base vessels of brasse and wood and a barne-floore wherein are wheat and a chaffe then a Church is rightly constitute howbeit there be in it beleevers and unbeleevers and hypocrites as members thereof And there is no more required to make members of the Church visible as visible but that they be within the net hearers of the word within the house as vessels of brasse within the barne-wals as chaffe in likenesse and appearance like wheat But the former is true and granted by Barrow Mat 13. 47. 2 Tim. 2. 20 21. Mat. 3. 12. Barrow saith Hypocrites are ever in the Church but it followeth not that the prophane multitude for that should be admitted members without proofe of their faith Answ. As the likenesse between the vessell of brasse and the vessell of gold and their being in one and the same Noblemans cu●table together is sufficient to make the brazen vessell a part of the plenishing of the house so the hypocrites externall profession and receiving the word and remaining in the Church as Ananias and Saphira and Simon Magus his beleeving his adhering to Philip his desire of Baptisme maketh him a member of the visible Church and the Church that these are in is a truly and right constitute visible Church 3. Argument If that Church be rightly constitute and a true Church where the man without the wedding garment commeth to the Marriage of the Kings sonne that is where multitudes were called and doe heare the Word and so come to the banquet of the Gospell that are not chosen and are destitute of the wedding garment of faith and Christs righteousnesse and all these that are professed hearers of the word and yet not sound beleevers Then a professed and externall use of the meanes if no outward out-breakings of scandals be in them maketh men members of the visible Church and the Church is rightly constitute where these are but the former is true Mat. 22. v. ● 3. c. v. 11 12 13. and this is a point most ordinary in every visible Assembly where the word is preached where some beleeve and some are hardened as in the parable of the sower where the seed falleth upon good ground and bringeth forth fruit and also upon the way side upon the rockie and thorny ground and in the parable of the ten Virgins to make them all the visible kingdome of heaven there is no more required but that all have l●mps that is a profession that they are the Bridegroomes men attending the wedding and yet five of them wanteth oyle And so when Christ preacheth and worketh miracles some beleeve and some beleeve not Joh. 7. 31 32 33. Acts 2. 48 49 50. compared with Acts 5. 1 2. 2 Cor. 15. 16. 4. Argument Israel was a right constituted Church The covenanted people of God an holy people to the Lord chosen to be a peculiar people to himselfe Deut. 14. 1 2. Deut. 29 10 11 12. a people on whom God set his love Deut. 7. 7. So happy as none was
murmurers idolaters c. Then the sinfulnesse of the worshippers defileth not the worship and we are not to separate from the worship for the wickednesse of the worshippers But the former is Scripture Ergo separate we cannot upon this pretence The proposition is sure for God cannot both command his people to come and worship publikely with his people and then also forbid them because for the wickednesse of the worshippers they were to abstaine Also 2. It will follow that the people should not have gone to Shiloh when God commanded them to sacrifice with Elies sonnes because they committed silthinesse with the women at the doore of the Tabernacle of the Congregation because Elies soones wickednesse made men to abhorre the Lords sacrifice Also 3. Because to prophecy to a people and for the people to heare the word of prophecy are both acts of worshipping God it will follow if we must abstaine from the worship for the knowne sinnes of fellow-worshippers then Isaiah sinned in prophecying to a people laden with iniquity corrupt children the seede of evill doers hypocrites rebells Sodome and Gomorrah murtherers oppressors c. Isa. 1. for Isaiah and that wicked people worshipping together the worship was defiled to Isaiah by these wicked hearers and he should have abstained from prophecying and separated from that polluted and unlawfull worship Hence Ieremiah sinned in prophecying to Israel and Iudah Hosea sinned Amos sinned in prophecying to wicked people Ionah sinned in prophecying to Niniveh Paul sinned in preaching Christ to the obstinate Iewes to the scoffing Athenians And seeing they were commanded to prophecy obedience to Gods commandements shall it be sin and disobedience for certainely the preacher and the hearers of the preaching joyne in one and the same worship Also 4. Baruch should not have gone to the house of the Lord at the commandement of Ieremiah and so at Gods commandement Ier. 36 6 7. to reade the booke of the Prophecie of Jeremiah in the eares of the Princes and people at the entry of the new-gate of the Lords house ver 10. because the Princes Priests Prophets and people followed Baalim slew their children to Molech forsooke the Lord their God said to a stock thou art my father came to Gods house and cryed the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord and yet did steale murther commit adultery sweare falsly burne incense to Baal and walke after other gods Jer. 9. 2 3 13 14. Chap. 5. 31. Chap. 7. 8 9 10. Chap. 2. 13 14. ver 27. Chap. 14. 15 16. Chap. 23. 1 2 3 9 10 11 12. Chap. 7. 30 31 32. Chap. 15. 1. No people could be more desperately wicked yet Ieremiah worshipped God with them commanded Baruch to worship God and commanded the King his servants and the people publikely to worship and heare and beleeve the word Chap. 22. 2 3. v. 5. Chap. 19. 3 4. Chap. 26. 2. And besides he should have commanded the faithfull to separate from such an Idolatrous Church and not commanded them to heare in the Lords house and beleeve and obey So Ezechiel commandeth a most wicked and idolatrous people to joyn in the publick worship Ezek. 6 2 3. Chap. 20. 3 4 5. Chap. 21. 3 4. so all the rest of the Prophets 1. This idolatrous people in the judgement of charity could not be judged visible Saints seeing they were visible Idolaters lyars murtherers adulterers and an Assembly of treacherous persons 2. It cannot be said that to prophecy to them in publick is not to keep a religious communion with them For to heare on Messiah preached these same promises threatnings covenant and that ordinarily is an evident signe of a Church-fellowship and joynt worshipping of God together There only reason that they give to this is The common-wealth of Israel was a policy established by God by covenant without exception and so long as the Covenant stood unbroken on Gods part though broken on their part it was not lawfull to separate from that Church So Robinson Others say Christ behooved to be borne of the true Church therefore they never left off to be the true Church till Christ came Answ. First we have Robinson contrary to Ainsworth the Israelites then sacrifi●ed to Divels not to God Deut. 32. 17. ● Chron. 11. 15. and will you say the Prophets separated no● from them saith Ainsworth We say in the act of sacrificing to Divels the Prophets that were holy separated from them but not from their Church and lawful worship Robinson saith They were to hold communion with that Church of Israel without exception 2. We have a faire confession that contrary to the 31. Article The faithfull may become and stand members and have a spirituall communion with a people as an orderly gathered and constituted Church of Christ that are Idolaters thieves murtherers worshippers of Baal so being they worship the true God publickly as he commandeth and be in externall covenant with him 3. Suppose the Church of Israel should have had a typicall priviledge in this beyond all the Churches of the new Testament which Ainsworth will not grant neither can we see it yet all the Separatists goodly arguments hence fall to the ground if the faithfull might lawfully keep Church fellowship with the Church of Israel so corrupted Then in the old Testament Christ and Belial light and darkenesse might be in one Church worship Then in the old Testament the seed of the woman and the Serpents seed could agree together then it was lawfull to remain in Babel lawfull to become members of an Harlot Church and be defiled with their unlawfull worship and to consent therunto Then it was not required in the old Testament that the Church of God and his people in Covenant should be a Royall Priest-hood an holy people In the old Testament the Church might be a whoore Worship Baal Sacrifice to Divel● and yet remain the Spouse and wife of Jehovah All their passages cited in the old Testament for separation from a Church fall The Church of Israel had not Christ for their King Priest and Prophet and therfore was not separated from all false Churches as they prove from Hos. 2. 2. Cant. 1. 7 8. Psal. 84. 10. in the old Testament The wicked might have taken the covenant of God in their mouth contrary to Psal. 50. 16 17. which place the authour of the Guide to Zion alleadgeth to prove that idolaters and wicked persons are not members of the true visible Church Then it is false that Separatists said The Lord in all ages appointed and made a separation of his people from the world before the Law under the Law and now in the time of the Gospell For M. Robinson teacheth us in the old Testament none were to separate from the Church of Israel though never so abhominable in wickednesse Lastly The Church of Israel had no such priviledge as that persons who were idolaters thieves worshippers of Baal and forsakers of
confirmed That which the Prophets of God at Gods command did preaching and waiting on upon an obstinate Church all the day long that same onwaiting patience owe we to the Church whereof we are members But the Prophets at Gods command kept Church-fellowship of prophecying to a people disobedient and obstinate aye till God cast them off as Isaiah doth chap. 65. 2 3. all the day long The Prophets went and preached to Ierusalem after they had stoned and killed the former Prophets Mat. 23. 37. and after they had killed the heire Christ Iesus they preached to them also Acts 2. 22. Acts 3. 13 14. Acts 4. 1 2 3. 5. 4 c. so Jer. 3 12. Ieremiah after he had beene put in the stockes and the word of the Lord became a reproach yet still prophecyed Ier 20. 9. Ier. 26. 12. Now a preacher in a constitute Church is a member and part of that Church where he preacheth and is to beleeve and be saved by that same word which he commandeth others to heare as a meane of their salvation 1 Tim 4. 16. 7. Argument If the wickednesse of a Church have such influence as to pollute the publike worship and to defile these that communicate in the worship so as they must separate therefrom and if the unconverted preacher be not to be heard as a lawfull Pastor Then also we can communicate in no Church where there are lurking hypocrites But both these are against the word of God Ergo separation from the Church in that kind must be against the word of God also The proposition is cleare If the sinnes of these that heare and communicate with me defile the worship to me they defile it whether I know their sinnes or no. If a pest man eating with me defile my meate the meate is infected to me whether I know it or no and if I be obliged to know it and know it not my ignorance is sinnefull and doth not excuse me Now certainely no beleever is obliged to know the latent hypocrite it was no sinne in the eleven Apostles that they knew not Iudas to be the traitor while God discovered him The assumption I prove an unconverted man may be a called Pastor whom we may lawfully heare as Iudas was a chosen Apostle so Mat. 7. 22 23. Phil. 1. 16 17 18. Also it were lawfull to be a member of no visible Church if the sinnes of unknown hypocrites should defile the worship because in the net and barne-floore there are alwayes bad fish and ch●ffe Judge then if M. Barrow teach judiciously If the open sinnes saith he of Ministers or people defile not word and Sacraments administrated by them why hath God said the sacrifice of the wicked is abhomination to the Lord Prov. 15. and that the wicked may as well kill a man as a bullock and what the defiled ●riest toucheth is defiled their prayers and sacraments are not the Ordinances of God Answ. Except by Anabaptists I never read the Scripture so perverted the praying preaching sacraments of a defiled Priest and an unconverted man to himselfe but not to others are abhominable and sinne before God whether they be censured by the Church or no whether they be known to be defiled and polluted sinners in the state of nature or not knowne because their persons are not reconciled in Christ to God as all our Divines prove as Augustine and Prosper proveth against Pelagians and our Divines against Arminians see for this what Arminius Corvinus and the Jesuite Bellarmine Suarez and ●asques saith on the contrary The notoriety of Ministers and professors sinnes or their secrecy is all one the sinne defileth the man and the mans worship preaching and prayers to himselfe but their sinnes doe not an●ll and make of no effect the ordinances of God that are publike the prayer of the unconverted Minister is the prayer of the Church and heard for Christs sake howbeit the man himselfe be a taker of Gods name in vaine else infants baptised by an unconverted Pastour were infidels and yet unbaptised if his sacraments administred by him in the state of sinne be no ordinances of Christ but abhominations that defile others as well as himselfe Thus the preaching of Scribes and Pharisees the abhominable slaves of hell as concerning their conversation were not to be heard even while they sate on Moses chayre the contrary whereof Christ commandeth Mat. 23. 2 3 4. 8. Argument If the Church-worship must be forsaken for the wickednesse of the fellow-worshippers then the publike ordinances of word and sacraments should have their worth and dignity from the persons worshipping as preaching should be more the word of God the holier the preacher be and lesse the word of God the lesse holy that he be and not the word of God at all if the preacher be an unwashen and an unhallowed Priest whereof there are too many alas in our age But this were absurd the word hath all the essentiall dignity and holinesse from God and preaching and baptizing are true pastorall acts and meanes of salvation so the men be called by God and the Church having their power from Christ Jesus whose ordinances they are what ever be the mens morall carriage I grant it is more unsavoury and worketh the lesse if the man be an ungracious slave of sinne but that is by accident and from our corruption who cannot looke to Gods word and receive it as his word but we must looke who he is a good or a bad man who carrieth the letters and what vessell it be that beareth Gods-treasure if of gold or of earth This argument Augustine presseth against the Donatists 9. Argument If Church-worship where wicked people worship with us be defiled to us beleevers then Peters preaching was defiled to the converts Acts 2. because Ananias and Saphira Simon Magus did worship with them Moses Elijah Joshua could not but be defiled by the prefence of stiffe-necked people whose hearts were going after Baalim and they sinned in taking part and consenting to a polluted covenant Passeover feast of the Lord Sermon or the like It is not enough to say if they knew the worshippers to b● such they were not to communicate with them I answer then the worship publike where wicked persons doe communicate doth not of it selfe contaminate and pollute the worship to others who are true believers but only upon condition that believers know the wickednesse for 1. We desire a warrant of this from the Word of God or the nature of the worship 2. And if so be baptisme administred by a private person whom we take to be a faithfull Pastor should be lawfull I never thought our knowledge had power to change worship from a pure and cleane case to make it impure and uncleane by this meanes light and darkenesse Christ and Beliall the womans seede and the Serpents seede may remaine together we may stay with the infectious botch of uncleane
that Babel also least ye be partakers of her sinnes For they teach were a visible Church never so sound pure holy faire in doctrine and life yet if they refuse to cast out a scandalous person and will spare and defend him they are to be separated from and those that stay in that Church and keepe communion with her are partakers of her sins Howbeit some saving truths remain in the Church of Rome and in that we keepe yet a materiall and reall union with Rome in as farre as they professe one God three persons two natures in Christ c. but we have separated from Rome 1. Because their Doctrine of professed and commanded Idolatry and their other Heresies everteth the foundation of Faith 2. Because they lay another foundation above the foundation Christ the Pope and a multitude of Idol-gods but it followeth in no sort Ergo we are to separate from every true Church of Christ that is incorrigible in one fault or other Where is there a Christian Church that we could live in in the Earth yea except the Anabaptists-Church a Church of white paper as faire as Heaven and the Sunne that there is not a spot on more then on the triumphing Church this on Earth is a city in the Moone 3. They object Come not ye to Gilgall neither goe yee up to Bethaven therfore people were to separate from Idolatrous Israel Answ. I have prooved that the true Prophets commanded Church-fellowship with Israel after their Idolatry and judge if this be good Goe not to Bethaven that is the house of vanity called Bethel the house of God where Jeroboams calves were worshipped ergo separate from all the worship of God in Israel we say Ex negatione speciei malè concluditur negatio generis separate from Ieroboams calves therfore separate from all true worship of God in Israel it is a bad consequence 4. They object In the old Testament the Law consisted of outward ordinances and if they were outwardly performed there was no cause to separate from them But under the new Testament all things are become now and spirituall where Christ hath given power to all the faithfull to censure scandalous sinnes all should separate from a corrupt Church So Barrow But Master Smith helpeth him All things were shadowes in the old Testament David Jehoshaphat c. suffered knowne sinnes in the land yet were they the true matter of the typicall Church being typically and ceremonially cleane for to the constitution of the typicall Church there was not required true holinesse but ceremoniall cleannesse Holinesse was required of them for their acceptation before God but not for the constitution of their Church so there were there typicall Saints typicall Hypocrites that might have no communion together till they were purified and yet being indeed wicked persons they might have Church-communion together But our constitution ministry communion separation are contrary to theirs true holinesse is required under the new Testament Robinson addeth No man could absolutely separate from the Church of the Jews for it was the onely one visible Church upon the face of the Earth tyed to one Temple Altar Sacrifice Priest-hood and place they had not excommunication as we have now the offender was by bodily death cut off from the common-wealth as from the Church Answ. It is most false that externall performances of duties were sufficient to make men members of the visible Church of the old Testament 1. Because man-slayers adulterers c. were to be cut off and excommunicated from the congregation of the Lord and their prayers were not accepted of God even by Moses his law Num 35. 33 34. Es 1. 10 11 14 15. Es. 66. 3 4 5. 2 It is false that all the worship under the new Testament is so spirituall that outward performances of externall profession in the new Testament doth not also make professours Ecclesiastically holy and separated from other people not of the visible Church for Ananias Saphira Simon Magus for a time were externally holy and differenced from Pagans without the Church by their baptisme and externall profession Then Barrow must quit all places in the old Testament for separation from a wicked Ministry as that Prov. 15. The Sacrifice of the wicked is abomination to God was as true in the old as in the new Testament Ergo the Sacrifices offered by the wicked Priest were no ordinances of God and did pollute others who did communicate with him 2. The Sacraments of the Jewish Church in substance were one and the same with our Sacraments Heb. 13. 8. 1 Cor. 10. 1 2 3. Joh. 8. 56. Joh. 6. 50 51. Col. 2. 11 12. 1 Cor 5. 7. all say this except Papists Anabaptists Arminians and Socinians and for notoriously wicked persons to use the Sacraments with prophane and wicked hearts was most unlawfull and made them in that no members of the true Church but as Sodome and Gomorrah ●s 1. 10. as Aethiopians Aegyptians and Philistins Amos 9. 7. and such were forbidden to take Gods covenant in their mouth seeing they hated to be reformed Psal. 50. 16 17. Their prayers were abomination when their hands were bloody Es 1. 15. their Sacrifices like the murthering of a man and the Sacrificing of a dogg which was abomination to God Isa 66. 3. and so are all the means they use but I believe if Christ was the Spouse Priest head of the body to the Church of the Iews as to us to the constitution of this body visibly worshipping him in a Church-state there was required that the people should be not only typically holy but really and that God should be sanctified not only typically but really by reall declaration of all that drew nigh to him and the Song of Solomon saith that the communion was morall spirituall beside that it was typicall in some points And this is direct contrary to their confession where they make Separation from a corrupt Church morall and to that separation of the godly from the wicked was taught of God before the Law under the Law and under the Gospell and they teach That all true Churches from the beginning to the end of the world are one in nature and essentiall constitution And would the Lord have these to receive the seales of his covenant as true members typicall of a typicall Church This they say is 1 To take the name of God in vain 2. That the Lord doth seale unrighteousnesse 3. That he prophaneth his Sons bloud and death then a people laden with iniqu●ty a Sodome a generation of Idolaters might all by Gods typicall command claime to the promises of the covenant and they only 3. The common beleevers amongst the Iewes had the power of the keyes as well as we if Separatists teach right for they had power to rebuke one another Levit 19. 17. and this to them is a part of the power of the keyes as Smith saith they had power of ordination to
lay hands on their officers and the right of election as they would prove from Levit 8. 2 3. a place notwithstanding abused for the congregation there is the Princes of the congregation as it is a hundred times taken in the old Testament els how could six hundreth thousand persons beside aged men women and children lay hands on the officers They did also excommunicate no lesse then our Church of believers as they say therfore their Church in the essence of a visible Church was every way as ours except in some accidentall ceremonies Lastly suppose the Iewes were the only visible Church that none could separate from yet Christ and Belial light and darknesse should never dwell together 5. They object A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump and so a scandalous sinner not censured maketh the whole Church an infected lump therfore we are to separate from that Church if they goe on except wee would be leavened So Robinson Ainsworth Smith Canne object Answ 1. There is a double infection one physicall as leaven that by touching leaveneth and pest-cloaths that by touching defile the ayre or mens bodies the comparison holdeth not in this I am sure There is a morall infection by evill example and so the incestuous Corinthian not excommunicated did infect if any should use his company as a brother and member of the Church of this latter sort the place 1 Cor 5. is to be understood The incestuous man would infect if the guides and the Apostles spirit should ●●t cast him out Hence it is true that Church guydes in not excommunicating did what was in them morally to infect and leaven the Church but 1. It followeth not that the Church was actu secundo and actually infected howbeit no thanks to the guides 2. It followeth not that they should separate from a Church that might infect because that is not Gods meane of eschewing infection to lowpe out of one true Church to another for one fault 2. The eschewing and separating from the error of the Church and the mans company is enough to them to eschew the infection They urge But it is atempting of God to stay in an infected lump suppose you be not actually infected your selfe for no thankes to you as it is a tempting of God to keepe company with a wicked man suppose by Gods grace yee learne not his wicked fashions a man is guilty of selfe-murther who rydeth a swelling and dangerous river and sinneth in so doing suppose God graciously pardon his rashnesse and carry him through the river safe I Answ. 1. To stay in every place where sinners are and to haunt the wicked mans company as his companion is a sinfull tempting of God suppose ye be not actually insnared but to stay in the company or Church carefully flying every spot and soule ayre that may blow sin upon you is no tempting of God But secondly they thus urge to stay a member of a leavened Church and keepe Church-communion with that infected Church is to tempt God therfore God calleth you to separate from that Church I answer 1. To stay a member of that Church wholly leavened and where the matter of the worship is leaven and fundamentall points corrupted and obtruded upon the conscience is to tempt God for then I keepe communion with a leavened Church as leavened such as is Babell but the assumption now is false and the case not so here but to keep my self and remain a member of a Church leavened in part with one sin and to take no part with the sinne and yeeld no consent therunto is no tempting of God Paul joyned as a member with the Church of Corinth and acknowledged them as a Church and commanded to keepe Church fellowship with them 1 Cor 5. 4. even when this leavened lump was souring amongst them But thirdly they urge the incestuous mans sinne not censured infected the Church the infected Church infecteth the worship Answ. I deny that the sinne of the worshippers infecteth the worship to others that are not guilty it infecteth the worship to themselves but not to others a worship corrupt by accident only through the fault of the worshipper may and doth make the Lords Supper damnation to the eater and therefore the eater is forbidden so to eat a worship in the matter and intrinsecall principle unjust and sinfull is defiled both to the man himselfe and to all that taketh part with him as the teacher of false Doctrine and all that heareth and believeth are defiled but if the sin of an unworthy communicant even knowne to be so be damnation to himselfe and defile the worship to others then Paul would have said he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh his owne damnation and the damnation of the whole Church and Paul should have forbidden all others to eat and drinke withall who communicateth unworthily if he allowed separation but he saith he eateth and drinketh damnation 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to himselfe not to all others But fourthly they urge thus We must not onely strive to rebuke and censure one another but we must not stay a member of that Church in the which we are not permitted to doe the duty that Christ hath commanded us for the station and place is unwarrantable where we are necessitated to sinne that is to omit a duty of the Keyes that God hath given to all the faithfull Ergo we must separate from that Church where all the faithfull may not use the Keyes Answ. 1. Also if the power of the Keys be in the hands of the people as some teach so as they are under a commandement of God to rebuke authoritatively and judicially to censure and excommunicate their universall omission of that duty seemeth to be sinfull and howbeit I be loath to teach Separation I see not how the authours who give the power of the keyes to all private Christians are not to separate from all Churches where Presbyteriall government is no lesse then the strictest Separatists do● 2. Affirmative precepts tye not in all differences of time To rebuke your brother is alwayes lawfull so it be done observing due circumstances but that every be●eever rebuke Church-wayes and judicially by the power of the keyes doth not tye at all because Christ never gave that power to all 2. Some duties tye absolutely as to pray these we cannot forbeare Suppose a Church should make a Law like Darius to borrow a dumbe Devill for thirty dayes and to pray none that Church should not be heard and not acknowledged in that Other dutyes tye conditionally as not to pray in publicke with a man notoriously serving Satan and deserving to be excommunicate yet if the Church excommunicate not wee are not to separate from the prayer of the Church because that person is suffered there so these duties that tye upon a condition that dependeth upon others and not upon my selfe tye not alwayes I am obliged to beleeve what point the Pastor teacheth but
but the child●en of beleeving parents aime at this That the faith of the father is imputed to the children which indeed reverend Beza doth maintaine Or then a worse that Infants are not to be baptized at all seeing they oppose the places that we cite for the lawfulnesse of baptizing Infants The authors of Presbyteriall government call the baptizing of children a untimous anticipation Our brethrens mind is that the Infants of both Parents knowne to be unbeleevers are not to be baptized untill they come to age and can give proofe that they are within the covenant of grace what Anabaptists thinke here is knowne Some say that Boniface the 4. in the yeare 606. began the Baptisme of infants M. Best saith too nakedly I beleeve at Augustine Cyprian Origen Cyrill Nazianzen Ambrose and many other Fathers affirme that the Church hath received the Baptisme of Infants from the Apostles What doth he not beleeve that it is most evidently in Scripture and hath he no better warrant then the ●athers Fourthly M. Best objecteth If there be no precept nor example for baptizing of Infants begotten of both Parents unbeleeving then there is no promise of blessing made unto it but the first is true Ergo the second Answ. 1. We aske with what faith and by what precept or example was ever circumcision in the whole old Testament denyed to any male-childe of the most wicked Jewes and by what precept and example is Baptisme denyed to any Infant in the New Testament for his Parents wickednesse the Fathers professing the Christian Faith Yea seeing Baptisme is denyed to Infants upon a suspition that their Parents are destitute of faith and not within the Covenant Now this suspition is not faith nor grounded upon any word of God or certaintie of faith for whether an other man beleeve or beleeve not it is not faith nor knowne by faiths certaintie to me but by the judgement of charitie Fifthly they object If all promiscuously be baptized Gods name is taken in vaine and the holy Sacrament greatly abused Mal. 1. 12. Heb. 10 29. Answ. This is to accuse God as if he had not found sufficient wayes out to save his owne name from blasphemy Nor can our brethren by their Doctrine save his name from dishonour nor the Sacrament from prophanation because multitudes of Infants borne of beleeving Parents are reprobates and yet God hath commanded to baptize them who being reprobates must be without the covenant and so the covenant is prophaned and many Infants of wicked Parents are chosen and within the covenant yet are we forbidden by our brethren to give them the seales of the covenant untill they come to age which also should be given to them and needs force by their doctrine that Christ hath commanded a certaine way of dishonouring his name which is blasphemy ●or we have not such a cleare way to know Infants cleane and uncleane as the Priest had to know the polluted bread and the polluted sacrifices Mal. 1. 7 12. as he citeth For what Infants are within the covenant indeed and chosen of God and what not We neither know nor is it requisite that we know further then that we are to know that they are borne within the visible Church Sixthly they say The Church of God is defiled Hag. 2. 14 15. Ezech. 44. 7. If all Infants promiscuously be baptized for then the people and every worke of their hand and their offering is uncleane So M. Best Answ. We deny that children borne within the visible Church are an uncleane offering to the Lord and that the baptizing of them polluteth the Nation and all the worship of the Nation as they would gather from Haggai For being borne of the holy Nation they are holy with a federall and nationall holinesse Rom. 11. 16. If the root be holy so are the branches For our brethren baptize children of Parents who are hypocrites and unbeleevers and so the uncircumcised in heart come into the Sanctuary Yea Peter in baptizing Simon Magus and Ananias and Saphira brought in the uncircumcised in heart and the strangers to Gods covenant as Best alledgeth from Ezech. 44. borrowing such abused testimonies of Gods word from Separatists as they borrowed them from Anabaptists For we preach and invite in the Gospell all the uncircumcised in heart and all the wicked to come and heare and partake of the holy things of the Gospell and receive the promises thereof with faith And when many come to this heavenly banquet without their wedding garment Mat. ●2 12 13. 2 Cor. 2. 16. Mat. 21. 43 44. It followeth not because they prophane the holy things of God that Ministers who baptize the Infants of hypocrites and prophane persons are accessarie to the prophaning of the holy things of God and that we bring in the polluted in heart to the Sanctuary of God It is one thing whom Ministers should receive as members of the Sanctuary and Church and another thing who should come in and what sort of persons they are obliged to be who come to be members To say that Ministers should receive none into the Church but those that are circumcised in heart and cleane and holy and cloathed with the wedding garment of faith is more then our brethren can prove Nay we are to invite to the wedding good and bad chosen and unchosen Mat. 22. 9. As many as you find bid to the wedding But that all that come to be received members of the unvisible Church are obliged to be circumcised in heart and holy and cloathed with the wedding garment else they prophane the Sanctuary and holy things of God is most true But we desire that our brethren would prove this The Porters that held out the uncircumcised and the strangers out of the Sanctuary were types of the Ministers and Church of the New Testament who should receive none to be Church-members and invite none to the wedding of the Gospell but such as have their wedding garment and are circumcised in heart and are cleane and holy else they prophane and defile the Church of God as M. Best saith We beleeve this latter to be an untruth and yet the strength of this Argument doth hang upon this They are obliged to be such who enter into the Church else they defile the Sanctuary Ergo the Church and Ministers of the New Testament are obliged to invite none to any Church-communion or receive them into a Church fellowship but only the circumcised in heart Wee utterly deny this consequence It is one thing what sort of persons they ought to be that should be members of the Church doubtlesse they should be beleevers And another thing whom the Church should receive in these should be professors Seventhly M. Best reasoneth thus The Minister is made a covenant-breaker Mal. 2. 8. who baptized the childe of prophane Parents and why because he offereth the blinde for a sacrifice to God Answ. What if the Parents be
bought with a price all things are theirs and therfore all power which consequence is no stronger the one way then the other 9. It layeth a blot upon Christs wisdome who hath appointed congregations to be edified by no power of the keyes in case of aberration a●d incorrigible obstinacy 10. It maketh the Word of God imperfect which setteth downe no Canons how the believers of an independent Church should governe and Paul teacheth how Timothy and Titus and all Church-men should governe 11. It excludeth not women from usurping authority over men by judging excommunicating ordaining pastors seeing they are the body and Spouse of Christ as believing men are 12. It maketh the Sacraments no Sacraments the baptized non-baptized and in the place of Turkes if possibly the pastour and the ten professours of the independent Church be unbelievers which is too ordinary 13. By this an assembly of Pastors and Elders from divers congregations have no more the power of the keyes then one single man who may counsell and advise his brother 14. Extreme confusion and inevitable schismes hence arise whilst such a sister-Church saith I am Pauls and her sister-Church saith I am Apollo's and there is no remedy against this fire 15. The patterne of a Church governing and ministeriall consisting of only believers is neither in all the Scriptures antiquity nor in the writings of Divines But of these I shall speake more fully hereafter God willing 4. Argument That Doctrine is not to be holden which tendeth to the removing of a publick Ministry but the doctrine of independent Churches is such Ergo the doctrine of independent Churches is not to be holden The proposition is out of doubt seeing Christ hath ordained a publick Ministry for the gathering of his Church Ephes 3. 11. 1 Cor 11. 1 Cor 14 1 Tim 3. 1 2 3. Heb 13. 17. 1 Thess 5. 12 13. 1 Cor 5. 4. Math 16. 19. Math 28. 18. Joh 20. 21 22 23. I prove the assumption By the doctrine of independency two or three or ten or twelve private Christians in a private Family joyning themselves covenant-waies to worship God is a true visible Church So the English Puritanisme So a Treatise called Light for the ignorant So the Guide to Zion So the Separatists holding Independent Congregations define a visible Church Every company Congregation or Assembly of true believers joyning together according to the order of the Gospell in the true worship is a true visible Church This being the true definition of an independent congregation from the writings of the Patrons thereof I prove that it taketh away the necessity of publick ministery 1. because every twelve in a private Family is this way joyned together and is an independent Church 2 this congregation being independent it hath within it selfe the power of the keyes and is not subject saith the English Puritanisme to any other Superiour ecclesiasticall jurisdiction then to that which is within it self But 1 Katherin against M. Edwards saith p. 7 8. Private Christians have the Spirit Ergo they may pray Answ God forbid we deny but they both may and ought to pray continually but hence it followeth not affirmativè à genere ad speciem therfore they may authoritatively not being called of God as was Aaron and invade the pastors chaire and pray and fast and lay on hands by ministeriall authority as the pastors doe Act 6. 6. Act 13. 3. 2. The Church saith the Feminin Authour p. 8. is not blinde so that none have power of seeing but only the officers Answ. All believers see and discerne true and false teachers 1 Iohn 4. 1. Heb 5. 14. 2 Cor 3. 18. Psal 119. 18. Ephes 1. 17. but it followeth not affirmativè à genere a● speciem the●fore they doe all see as the eye of the body with an authoritative and pastorall light and eye for then all the body should be an eye where were then the hearing 2 Cor. 12. 17. 3 Within it self there is no jurisdiction ministeriall for in the definition of a Church ministeriall there is deepe silence of Ministers or office-bearers and good reason by their grounds who hold it For it is a society of believers joyned together covenant wayes in the true worship of God which society hath power to ordain and elect their owne pastors and Elders here is the power of the keyes to bind and loose on earth as Christ bindeth and looseth in Heaven Math 18. 18. chap 16. 19 and a ministeriall act of these keyes to wit the ordaining of Pastours Doctors Elders and Deacons before there be any Pastor Doctor or Elder or Deacon A ministery then must only be necessary ad benè esse non ad esse simpliciter to the better or wel-being of the independent Church and not to the simple being of the Church for the thing must have a perfect constituted being and essence before it can have any operation and working proceeding from that being as one must be a living creature indued with a sensitive soule before it can heare or see or touch now this independent Church must have the perfect essence and being of a ministeriall Church seeing it doth by the power of the keyes within it selfe constitute and ordaine her owne Ministers and Pastors and if they were joyned in the worship of God before they had Ministers they did in a visible way being a visible Church in the compleate being of a visible Church worship God before they had Ministers for before they ordaine their Ministers they must keepe the Apostolick order fast and pray and lay on their hands for so did the Apostles Act 1. 24. Acts 6. v. 6. Acts 13. 3. Act 14. 23. 1 Tim 4. 14. 2 Tim 1. 5. So here are publick fasting publick praying publick ordination of a visible and independent Church and as yet they have no Ministers So in case the Eldership of a congregation shall all turne scandalous and hereticall this same independent congregation may excommunicate them Ergo before excommunication they must publickly and by the power of the keyes convince them of Heresie rebuke them pray for them and finally by the spirit of Paul a Pastor 1 Cor 5. 4. judicially cast them out Now let all be Judges if this be farre from pastorall preaching and if here be not ministeriall acts and the highest judiciall and authoritative censure exercised by no Ministers at all and what hindreth by this reason but the independent Church that doth publickly and authoritatively pray fast rebuke convince gainsayers make and unmake by the power of the keyes pastours and Ministers may also without Ministers preach and administer the Sacraments against which the Separatists themselves doe speake and give reasons from Scripture that none may administer the Sacraments untill the pastors and teachers be chosen and ordained in their office But hence we clearly see an independent Church constituted in its compleat essence and exercising ministeriall acts and using the keyes without any ministry
They would not depresse and submit the immediately inspiring Apostelike spirit to mens consent so as men must give consent and say Amen to what God the authour of Scripture shall dite as Scripture This was a villifying and lessening of the authority of Scripture therfore necessarily hence it followeth this was an Ecclesiasticall degrace of an Assembly They object twelfthly That Paul and Barnabas went up to Jerusalem not to submit their iudgement to the Apostles for then they had not been infallible neither for the necessity of an assembly or because Congregations depend d●th on assemblies but they did it 1. to conciliate authority to the Decrees 2. To stop the mouthes of false Apostles who alleadged that the Lords Apostles stood for circumcision otherwise Paul himselfe might have determined the point Answ. 1. Paul as an ordinary Pastor howbeit not as an Apostle was to submit to a Synod in this case as an Apostle he might have excommunicated the incestuous Corinthian without the Church but it shall not follow that Paul did write to the Corinthians to excommunicate him for no necessity of a Church-court and Synod but onely to conciliate authority to excommunication and to stop the mouthes of enemies 2. I aske what authority doe they meane 1. authority of brotherly advise But these Decrees bind as the Decrees of the Church v. 28. chap. 16. 4. chap. 21. v. 25. 2 If they meane authority Ecclesiasticall the cause is ours 3. If they meane authority of divine Scripture then this Decree must have more authority th●n other Scriptures which were not penned by common consent of all beleevers 4. This is a bad consequence Paul could have determined the point his alone Ergo there was no need of a Councell for the Scriptures and many holy Pastors determine that Christ is equall with God the Father It followeth not that therefore there is no need of one Councell to condemne ●rrius They object 13. There were no Commissioners at this assembly from the Churches of Syria and Cilicia therefore it was not an assembly obliging Ecclesiastically all the Churches of the Gentiles Answ. 1. Suppose Syria and Cilicia had no Commissioners here which yet we cannot grant but give only yet Ierusalem and Antioch had their Commissioners which maketh the meeting formally and ess●ntially a Synod of many particular Churches met synodically in one for there were many single Pari●hionall congregations both at Ierusalem and at Antioch 2. We doubt not but the Apostles who wrote to them the Decrees of the assembly advertised them also of that Apostolike remedy for determining the question seeing they writ to them ver 24. We have heard that some have troubled you with words sub●erting your soules saying ye must be circumcised Ergo the Apostles tendred their s●lvation therefore we are to thinke that Syria and Cilicia had their Commissioners here What if they neglected to send á facto ad ius non valet consequentia they should have sent Commissioners This assemblies Decrees did lay a tye and bond upon the Churches of Syria and Cilicia then it did either tye them as a counsell and advise or or as a part of Scripture or thirdly as a Decree of an Ecclesiasticall Synod If the first be said this Canon doth not lay a command upon them the contrary whereof we find v. ●8 it layeth a burthen on them chap. 16. 4. chap. 21. 28. and Decrees that they must keep The second is unanswerably confuted in answering the tenth objection If the third be said we obtaine what we seeke and so they should have sent Commissioners otherwise the Decrees of Synods shall oblige Ecclesiastically Churches who are not obliged to be present in their Commissioners which neither we nor they can affirme 14. They object That this is not one of our Synods for the multitude of beleevers had voices here And the whole multitude spake for it is said v. 12. Then all the multitude keept silence and gave audience And Whittaker saith they had decisive voices but in your Synods none have voyces but only the Eldership Answ. 1. That the faithfull speake propose and reason our booke of discipline saith So saith Zuinglius Beza yea the Fathers as Cyprian and others Who will not have Acts made against the peoples co●sent it is like the multitude speake but orderly seeing the Holy Ghost was here v 28. Whittaker saith only it is like that some of the multitude spake And what marvell then many should speake seeing it was untruth that any of Moses Law which was also Gods Law should be abrogated 2. The Church may send in some cases learned and holy men to Synods who are neither Pastors Elders nor Doctors So was here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 brethren that is choise and able men otherwise beleeving women and the whole Church of beleevers com● under the name of brethren in Scripture Parker saith well The materiall ground of commissioners at assemblies is their gifts and holinesse the formall ground is the Church calling and sending them 3. That the whole multitude had definitive voices is first against what we have said expounding these words Mat. 18. Tell the Church 2. It is a meere popular government refuted before 3. I reason from the end of the Synod These onely had definitive votes who met together synodically for to consider of this question but these were only Apostles and Elders v. 6. including brethren who only had place to judge as Bullinger and Calvin saith and not the multitude 4. The Canons are denomin●ted 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Decrees ordained by the Apostles and Elders Acts 16. 4. Acts 21. 25. 5. By what warrant could the brethren at Ierusalem give Lawes to brethren of other independent congregations of Syria and Cilicia and these also who were absent So this ●hall be no Syn●d 6. I grant the Epistle is sent in the name of all For 1. to send greeting in an Epistle is not an act of jurisdiction but a sort of Christian kindness● 2. It was done by common consent of all 3. It added some more authority 4. It is possible the sending of the Decrees required charges and expences 15. The Female replyer to M. Edwards the reason saith she why the Church of Antioch sent the matter to be d●cided at Jerusalem was because the parties were members of the Church of Jerusalem Acts 15. 1. certaine men which came from Judaea taught the brethren c. v. 24. They went out from us and this proveth independency of Churches for the Church of Antioch judged it an unequall thing to iudge members of the Church of Ierusalem Answ. 1. Let it be that contenders for ceremonies were of the sect of the Pharisees yet the soules of these of Antioch were subverted v. 24. If Antioch had been independent they could have determined the truth to prevent subversion of soules who ever were the authors of that wicked doctrine but their sending their commissioners to
Church consisting possibly of six or ten beleevers only that the care for many Churches 2 Cor. 11. 28. The pastorall care to gaine Jew and Gentile those that are within and without to be made all things to all men to save some should be now in no pastors on earth but dead with the Apostles as if these places 1 Cor. 10. 32. 1 Cor. 9. 19 20 21 22 23. Rom. 1. 14 15. Rom. 9. 2 3. did not presse to all Ministers of Christ the extending of their pastorall vigilancy to the feeding and governing of all the Churches in their bounds that maketh up one visible politick body communicating one with another in the acts of Church-communion Hence it must follow 1. When the Grecian Church shall be wronged by the Hebrew Church that the pastors may not synodically meet and by joynt authority remove the offences betwixt Church and Church as the Apostles did Act. 6. 2. It followeth that all the meetings and convention of the Apostles and Pastours to take care authoritatively for the Churches as Act. 1. Act. 4 35. Act. 6. 2 3 4. Act. 11. 1. Act. 8. 14. Act. 14. 1 2 3 Act. 15. 6. Act. 21. 18 19 20 c. Act. 20. 18. Act. 14 23. 1 Tim. 4. 14. were all meetings of Apostles extraordinary temporary and Synods of Apostles as Apostles and not meetings of pastors as pastors to joyn their authority in one for the governing of many Churches 3. It followeth that Pastors and Elders and Doctors may now no more lawfully meet and joyne their authority in one for the feeding of the flock then they may take on them to worke miracles speake with tongues and as Apostles goe up and down the earth and preach to all the world the Gospell O that our Lord would be pleased to reveale his minde to our deare Brethren in this point of truth For what be extraordinary and temporary in the conjoyned authority and pastorall care of the Apostles for all the Churches of the world I see not neither is it in reason imaginable which doth not in conscience oblige Pastors Doctors and Elders in the Church of Scotland to conjoyne their authority in one Synodicall power for all the Churches of Scotland O saith our Brethren there should be too many masters commanders and Lords over the free and independent visible Churches of Christ. I answer seeing all these Pastors and Elders in a nationall Synod are no other way over all the Churches of Scotland then the particular Eldership in a particular congregation is over the believers there be no more too many Lords and Masters over the whole Churches collectively united in a general Synod then there be too many Lords over the particular congregations For 1. in both meetings the beleevers choose their owne guides and commanders that are over them 2. Nothing is done in either a Nationall or in a congregationall Synod without the tacite consent of believers 3. In both it is free for beleevers to refuse and not receive what is decreed contrary to Gods Word See Zipperus and so there is no dominion here but what you finde Heb. 13. 17. 1 ●hess 5. 14 15. Math. 18. 17 18. Nay our brethren will have pastors so farre strangers to all congregations save only to their owne that M. Davenport and Mr. Best saith to the Pastours and Churches other Churches are without and Pastors have nothing to doe to judge them and they alleadge for this 1 Cor. 5. 12. but by these that are without Paul meaneth not these who were not of the congregation of Corinth but he meaneth Infidels and Heathen as in other Scriptures for Paul judged and excommunicated Hymenaeus and Alexander 1 Tim. 1. 20. who were without the Church of Corinth and if this exposition stand Pastors can extend no Church censure towards these who are of other congregations neither can they rebuke nor admonish them as Christians for these are Acts of Church-censures as our brethren teach Our eleventh Argument is from the light of sanctified reason for sanctisied reason teacheth that the stronger authority of the greater politicke body of Christ should help the parts of the body that are weaker as 1 Cor. 12. The whole body suffereth when one member suffereth and so the whole body helpeth the weaker and lesse honourable member 1 Cor. 12. v. 23 26. So universall nature contendeth for the safety of particular nature and helpeth it therefore the greater body and Nationall Church is to communicate its authority for the good of a particular Congregation which is a part thereof But the doctrine of independency maketh every Congregation an independent and compleat body within it selfe needing no authority to governe it higher then its owne authority as if it were an independent whole Church and no part of a greater visible Church But suppose the greatest part of Corinth deny the resurrection as often the worst are manyest then I aske whom to doth the Lord speake Take us the little foxes that spoile the vines He speaketh either to greater Synods which we say that the greater body may help a part and save a little daughter of Sion Or to the soundest part of the Congregation but they are weakest and fewest and shall the greater body looke and see a member perish and not help Let them help say our brethren with advise and counsell but not with command and authority I answer Take us the little foxes is an act of authoritative and disciplinary taking enjoyned to the Church 2. Our Argument is drawne from the greater authority in the politicke body to the lesser brotherly advise is not authority Hence authority as authority by this meanes shall not help the weaker parts of the body contrary to that which we have at length commanded 1 Cor. 12. Neither doe some reply well that he speaks 1 Cor. 12. of Christs invisible body because it is said v. 13. For by one spirit we are all baptized into one body whether we be Jewes or Gentiles Jewes and Gentiles saith he make not a visible Church but an invisible Catholike Church I answer 1. What can hinder under the New Testament Paul a Jew to make a visible Church with the Ephesians who are Gentiles 2. That he speaketh of a visible politicke body is cleare while he alleadgeth The eye exerciseth Pastorall acts of seeing for the foot and that the eare heareth for the whole body and when one member suffereth all suffer which is principally true of a politicke visible body For we are not baptized in one body visible with those preachers who are long agoe dead who never preached for the good of us who now beleeve in Christ because we never heard them preach and so they are not eyes seeing for us Our twelfth Argument is from the practises of the Jewish Church in a morall duty If Christ hath left the Churches of a whole Nation in no worse case then the Nationall Church of the Jewes were in for their publike giving of
was not amongst the Elders only but amongst all the beleevers neither were the Elders onely pussed up nor did they onely not sorrow that the incestuous man was not cut off but the bel●evers also were puffed up and did not sorrow that he was not cut ●ff Ergo all the beleevers had voices in iudging and excommunicating 2. Of old not the Levites onely were to purge out the leaven but all Israel also Ergo here not the Elders only are to purge out this leaven 3. Paul writeth not to the Elders onely not to be mixed with the fornicators but to all the faithfull 4. The faithfull and not the Elders only were to forgive 2 Cor. 2. Answ. I will first answer these reasons and withall shew how the people had hand in excommunication and might prove that there was a Presbytery of many Pastors at Corinth and not a single Congregation of one Pastor and some few Elders and beleevers who did excommunicate I retort these Arguments These with whom the fornicator did converse and so leavened them these who were pus●ed up and sorrowed not at the mans fall and at his not being cut off by excommunication these were judicially to excommunicate with the Elders But the fornicator conversed amongst beleeving women and children and did leaven them beleeving women and children were puffed up and sorrowed not Ergo Beleeving women and children did judicially excommunicate but the conclusion is foule and against the Argumentators Ergo so must some of the premisses be foule and false but the assumption is most true therefore their major proposition must be false therfore they must first acknowledge a representative Church with us and that men onely did judicially excommunicate and not all the faithfull except they make women ordinary Judges usurping the authority over men Then the number of these who were puffed up and sorrowed not at his fall c. must be more then the number of the persons who should judicially excommunicate 2. The authors of Presbyteriall govern exam say Elders are principally to iudge and to be leaders and first actors in excommunicating and people are to follow in the second roome and assent So say our Divines Walleus Bucanus Rollocus Beza Therefore Paul cannot rebuke private beleevers because they did not excommunicate judicially in the first roome for then Paul should have rebuked the Elders and leaders for not excommunicating in the order answerable to their place and power and because they did not judicially and authoritatively lead and goe before as first actors and prime moderators in the judiciall act of delivering of the man to Satan and so Paul cannot in reason rebuke all the faithfull amongst whom the scandalous man did converse and who were pus●ed up and sorrowed not at the mans fall because they did not excommunicate judicially at most they can be rebuked onely for not excommunicating in the second roome and in that orderly and subordinate way sutable to their place and power 3. I see no foot-step of any tollerable ground in the Text why it should be alleadged that all the faithfull men comming to age to speake nothing of beleeving women and children are rebuked for not excommunicating judicially the fornicator but rather the contrary that the faithfull out of office were not to excommunicate judicially For applying these words as a reproofe to beleeving men v. 2. And ye are pu●fed up and have not rather sorrowed that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the end that he that hath done this deed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 may be taken from amongst you He useth the passive verbe not the active whereby it appeareth that the beleevers were patients rather then agents in the not judiciall and authoritative taking away of the man from amongst them and that their fault was that they mo●ned not to God for the mans fall and the remisse negligence of the Elders by whose authority he might have been authoritatively delivered to Satan Pareus saith that he blameth the beleevers security Calvin their not being humbled at the fall and Cajetan they boasted that the fornicator was the sinner not they 4. That great Divine Junius doth excellently observe that Paul ioyneth himselfe as an extraordinary Elder with the ordinary Eldership of Corinth v. 4. When you are gathered together with my spirit For as I observed before Paul requireth not only that they be gathered together in the name of Christ which is required in all meetings for Gods worship in Prayers Word and Sacraments but also here he requireth that they meet saith he with my spirit that is with my Presbyteriall power of the keyes and 1 Cor. 4. 21. with the authority which the Lord hath given us for edification 2 Cor. 10. 8. as I am an Elder So said the Prophet to Gehazi 2 King 5. 26. went not my spirit with thee that is my Propheticall power Col. 2. 5. For though I be absent in the ●lesh yet I am present in spirit Now the beleevers out of office did not convene in this meeting indued with Pauls Ministeriall and Pastorall spirit for single beleevers receive not Ministeriall spirit from God neither is such a spirit promised to them Give an instance in Scripture of this promise and we shall lose this cause but this spirit for doctrine and discipline so given to Pastors 1 Cor. 4. 21. 2 Cor. 10. 8. Col. 4. 17. 2 Cor. 4. 1. 2 Cor. 5. 18. 1 Cor. 12 28 29. v. 17. therfore the comming together with Pauls spirit that is with his ministeriall power of the keyes as an Elder must be restrained to the Eldership of Corinth and cannot be applyed to single beleevers men women and children who yet were puffed up and sorrowed not v 2. therefore this is not a gathering together of an independent Congregation of beleevers men and women meeting with Pauls spirit and his presbyteriall power of the keyes in an authoritative and judiciall way to excommunicate but it must be a gathering together of these who had such a spirit and power pastorall and ministeriall as Paul had I deny not but the faithfull conveened or were to conveene in this meeting with the Eldership for praying and hearing the word preached which must be conjoyned with excommunication but the meeting is denominated pastorall and presbyteriall with spirituall power from the speciall intended end in that act which was authoritatively to deliver the fornicatour to Satan and Vrsine thinketh not without reason that the man was excommunicated and there being a space interveening betwixt Pauls writing of the first and his second Epistle to the Corinthians that Paul 2 Cor. 2. writeth for relaxing him from the sentence of excommunication Also Paul when he saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I have already iudged as present meaneth not a popular or private judging as we say the Physitian judgeth of the disease by the pulse and the Geometer judgeth of figures as Marsilius speaketh but understandeth a joynt authoritive judging with
Christ or beleeve not in him joyne hands with Papists and make way for Anabaptisticall Ana●chy that a persecuting or an unbeleeving King is no King not to be obeyed but to be turned out of his Throne And to this meaning Calvin Viretus and Cartwright teach that the kingly power floweth immediately from God the Creator not from God in the Mediator Christ. But 2. th● kingly power is considered in a speciall manner as it is in a Christian whether professing onely the Gospell or truly beleeving in Christ and so in relation to Christs Church and to the soule of a beleeving Prince the kingly power floweth from God in and through the Mediator Jesus Christ as all common favours which in general● flow from God the Creator are sanctified and blessed to the beleevers in the Mediator Christ as meat drinke sleep riches kingly honour And in this meaning Sauls kingly honour in respect of Saul himselfe is but a common favour flowing from the Creator howbeit to Gods Church for whose good he did fight the battels of the Lord it was a speciall favour flowing from God in Christ as our Divines say that creation which in it selfe is a common favour to all is a meane in the execution of the Decree of El●ction to the children of God 3. Conclusion Hence our Divines say that kingly authority is the same ordinance of God essentially considered in the heathen Princes as in Christian Kings as Cartwright and others say Neither doth it follow as our unlawfull Canons teach That the Christian Kings now have that same power in Causes Ecclesiasticall which the godly Kings amongst the Jewes as David and Salomon had ●or David and Salomon were Prophets as well as Kings and had power to pen Canon●cke Scripture and to prophesie which power in Ecclesiasticke causes no King now can have Neither doth it follow which Whytgift saith that we give no more authority to the Christian Magistrate in the Church of Christ then to the great Turke Our Divines say and that with good warrant that the kingly power as kingly is one and the same in kind in heathen Nero and in Christian Constantine As a heathen man is as essentially a father to his owne children and a husband to his owne wife and a King to his owne subjects as a Christian man is a father husband and king to his owne children wife and subjects Neither doth Christianity superadde and give of new any kingly power to a King because he is now become by Gods grace of a Heathen King a Christian King Christianity addeth indeed a new obligation to imploy his kingly power which he had full and entire before now in its exercise and use to more regall and kingly acts as to take care that the Gospell be soundly preached the Sacraments and discipline of the Church kept pure and heretickes punished according to that he to whom much is given from him much shall be required But the same King while he was a heathen King had the same kingly power and authority to performe these regall acts but being yet a heathen he wanted 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 supernaturalis a supernaturall or reall and physicall power to performe these acts now this power which he wanted before he heard of the Gospell and beleeved in Christ was not a kingly authority for then he should not have been a compleat Heathen King before which is against Gods word commanding obedience to heathen Kings Rom. 13. 1 2. 1 Tim. 2. 1 2. 1 Pet. 2. 17. but this power that he wanted is a Christian power to exercise regall and kingly acts Neither is this an inconvenience that power to exercise the acts of a calling in a Christian manner be Christian and supernaturall and yet the authority kingly and not formally Christian but such as is and may be in a heathen King therefore kingly power and Christian power are here carefully to be distinguished and a Christian Kings power as a Christian is more then the Turks power in Church-matters Hence our Adversaries here dethrone and degrade the King for they give the King a head-ship and dominion over the Church as he is a Christian man and take that headship from him as a King because if the Turke by sword should conquer Britaine and become our King by their grounds he should be Head of the Church no lesse then our Christian Prince who now re●gneth over us and certaine it is a poore Headship that they give to the King even such a Head-ship as a Heathen King and the Turke hath over subdued Christian kingdomes and thus by their way Nero and Julian were heads of Christs Church 2. If unbeleeving Kings cease to be Kings then when they commit any fault that maketh them in Gods Court no members of the Church they are to be dethroned which is most seditious doctrine and so Formalists herein joyne with Papists 4. Conclusion There be these distinctions here consider●ble 1. The Kings power ordinary and extraordinary 2. His power as a King 2. and as a singularly graced Christian. 3. His power hortatorie as a Christian and coactive as a King 4. His power accumulative not privative in Church-matters 5. His power in actibus imperatis in acts commanding to another and his power in actibus elicitis which he is to performe himselfe If a King were a Prophet as a David he might doe many things in an extraordinary way in Church-matters which he cannot now ordinarily doe 2. As a singularly graced Christian he may write Sermons and Commentaries on holy Scripture for edifying the Church but this should be done by him by no kingly faculty 3. As a Christian he may exhort others to doe their duty but as King he may command that which Paul commanded Timothy and Titus to commit the Gospell to faithfull men who are able to teach others to preach in season and out of season to lay hands suddenly on no man and reforme Religion purge the Church of idolatry and superstition as Joshuah and H●zekiah did all which Church-men and Synods might doe also but Synods doe this in an Ecclesiasticke way upon the paine of Ecclesiasticke censures The King doth it by a regall kingly and coactive power of the sword 4. the Kings power is accumulative in giving to the Church and ayding and helping God hath given to the King the ten Commandements and the Gosp●ll as a pupill is given to a Tutor The King holds his sword above the Law of God to ward off the stroakes of wicked men who doe hurt the Law but the Kings power is not privative to take any priviledge from the Law and the Church so his power is as a tutor to keep not as a father who may both give and take away from his son the inheritance his power is defensive not offensive 5. He hath power in actibus imperatis to command that all preach sound Doctrine decree just Canons exercise discipline aright but in
actibus elicitis in acts performed by an intrinsecall power in the agent he hath no power for the King as King cannot preach himselfe nor baptize c. as the will may command the eye to see the feet to walke but the will doth not see nor walk Here two errours are to be rebuked 1. Whitgift saith the King is not the head of the Church as it is a society of elect and believers for so the government is spirituall but he is the head of the Church as it is a visible society in externall government comprehending good and evill For 1. The government visible and externall is meerly ecclesiasticall by Christs spirituall lawes and censures of rebuking binding loosing and excommunicating but the King is not an ecclesiasticall person and so not the head who hath any intrinsecall influence as King in these acts 2. He is the head of the persons who make the Church and so is a politick head but he is not the head of the Church visible as it is such The head visible and member● are of one nature the King as King is a politicke and civill head the visible Church is not a politick and civill but an ecclesiastick body so Camero erreth who will have all Church-men synodically constituting and decreeing Canons and in all acts of externall government subordinate to the King as King as the instruments and servants are subordinate to the principall cause and first commander 1. Because then the King should be the principall ecclesiastick matter and prime Canon maker the King the first excommunicater when the Church excommunicateth but the members of a Church-Synod are immediately subordinate to Christ whose servants and instruments they are and not the servants of the King Nathan as a man was Davids servant but as a Prophet he was Gods servant and not Davids servant Hence a third errour of court sycophantes must be rejected that the King hath a negative voice in discipline and in Church-Assemblies which is most false 1. Because Christ hath promised to lead his Church in all truth to be with her to the end to be in the midst of his owne assem●led in his name and this promise Christ maketh and keepeth under Heathen Kings who have no voice at all in Church-Assemblies 1 Cor. 4 5. Math. 18. 23. Act. 15. 28. 2. If the acts of Church-Assemblies have no ecclesiasticall power without the consent of a Christian ●rince by that same reason the acts of publick preaching baptizing and administring the Lords Supper should lay no ecclesiasticall bond upon mens consciences except the King should consent unto these acts but the latter is against the Word of God Jer. 1. 10. Jer. 1. 18 19. 2 Cor. 10. 4 5. and most absurd Ergo so is the former I prove the connexion because that same power of Christ which is given to the Church conveened for acts of discipline is given for preaching and the conferring of the seales of the covenant for the Church hath the keyes to bind and loose from Christ equally independent upon any mortall man in discipline as in doctrine so in discipline the Kings power cannot be to impede all acts of discipline or to make them null except he consent to them 3. Because these words are absolutely made good without the interveening of any other authority Whatsoever ye binde on earth shall be bound in Heaven and whatsoever ye loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven els Christ would have said whatsoever the King or civill Magistrate shall binde on earth shall be bound in Heaven otherwise nothing is ratified on earth or Heaven either which the Church bindeth or looseth because the King saith not Amen to it 4. If a contumacious brother shall refuse to heare the Church hee is not for that to bee excommunicated and to be reputed an Heathen and a Publican because the civill Magistrate doth not repute him such an one 5. Of that free grace wherby God heareth the prayers of two or three agreeing to pray for one thing on earth the Lord bindeth and looseth in heaven that which his Church bindeth and looseth on Earth Mat. 18. 19. but the Lord heareth the prayers of two or three agreeing to pray for one thing on Earth though the civill Magistrate doe not give his consent that these prayers be heard and granted of God because the Magistrate is no intercessour without whose consent God heareth not prayers The proposition is cleare from Matthew 18. ver 18 19. 6. If the Magistrate have such a joynt power of binding and loosing and of forgiving and reteining sins with the Church then also with the Apostles and their successours but Christ gave this power to his Apostles without any such condition Matth. 28. 18 19. John ●0 22 23. and they practised this power without consent of the Magistrate and preached and excommunicated against his will 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. 1 Cor. 5. 4. yea as the Father sent Christ so should the Father have sent the civill Magistrate for so are they sent who have power to forgive and retaine sinnes John 20. 21 22 23. 7. That power which upon just reasons we deny to the Pope that we cannot give to the King but upon just reasons we deny to the Pope a negative voyce in Councels to anull lawfull Councels conveened in the name of Christ except he who is the virtuall Church say Amen thereunto neither is the King the virtuall Church 8. If a woe be due to a Pastor if he preach not suppose the Magistrate should forbid him to preach then also is a woe due to the Church which useth not the keyes though the Magistrate forbid then hath the Magistrate no such voyce and if the Church of Pergamos be rebuked for not using the power of the keyes against these who held the Doctrine of Balaam and the Nicolaitanes even when the Magistrate was a killer of the witnesses of Jesus then the Magistrat● hath no such negative voyce for it should not be possible to censure the followers of such Doctrine seeing hee was against both Doctrine and Discipline but the Lord reproveth P●rgamos in this case Revelation 2. ver 13 14 15. 9. There is no Word of God to prove that the Lord hath given the power of th● keyes to the King as the King and therfore we are not to believe that he hath any such power Also if the fore-said power of the keyes be given to the Church without any such power of the King the Church by all the former arguments may conveene to exercise that power in preaching binding loosing excommunicating suppose the civill Magistrate should discharge and inhibit these meetings for if the power of the keyes be given immediately by Christ to the Church then the power of meeting for the exercise of that power must also be given though the Magistrate say not Amen as is cleare Mat. 18. 18 19 20 21. 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. 1 Cor. 11.
the Elders of Ephesus being more then an ordinary Presbytery because of the multitude of that Church Act. 19. was of the nature of a Provinciall Assembly or a greater Presbytery Act. 20. 17 18. The fourth Assembly is a generall Assembly of many Provincef and is a cleare warrant of our Nationall Assembly as Act. 1. 15. where the eleven Apostles were Act. 6. 2. where the twelve Apostles were and Act. 15. where Jerusalem Antioch Syria and Sylicia are met in their principall guides Apostles Brethren Elders with us the King or his Commissioner is present as in the Nationall Assembly of the Jews was King David 1 Chron. 13. 1 2. Asa 2 Chron. 15. 9. Hezekiah 2 Chron. 29. 4 Josiah 2 Chron. 34 29 for the King beareth the Sword and is there as a politick President and nursing Father Esa. 49. 23. Rom. 13. 4. The members of the Councell are Pastors Doctors Elders as Act. 15. 23. sent by the Churches for that effect Act. 15. 2 3. All the Churches have place to speake propound and reason in an orderly way as there the multitude spake v. 12 13. but none have decisive voices save only Commissioners as Apostles and Elders Act. 15. v. 2 6. Ch. 16. 4. Ch. 21. 25. The acts of the Assembly oblige all the absents not present in all their members as v. 23 24 28. Act. 16. 4. ch 21. 25. not because of the authority of the Church but because of the matter which is necessary and agreeable to Gods word as Act. 15. 14 15 16 17 18. In this Assembly a Moderator is chosen who ordereth propoundeth and gathereth the voices as Acts 15. either James or Peter Silence is kept that one onely speake at once as v. 7. first Peter after him Barnabas and Paul v. 12. after them James v. 13. and these who speake are to speake to the Assembly or Moderator not to parties as v. 13. Men and brethren Also a Clerke is chosen who writeth the acts of the Assembly as v. 23. they wrote letters after this manner The Commissioners carry home from the Scribe of the Assembly the decrees of the Pastors and Elders to be observed by them as Act. 16. 4. Christian prudency and natures light teacheth the time and place for the next Assembly to be appointed most conveniently for the ●ase of all the Churches Where matters are difficile to inferiour Assemblies and parties wronged and there is no small dissension then references and appeales are made to the greater Assemblies and they determine that Paul and Barnabas or A. B. and S. ● goe to Jerusalem or the place of the next Assembly to the Pastors and Elders about this question as 1 2. All our inferiour Assemblies have brotherly correspondence by mutuall advise and counsell one with another but none have authoritative power over another as 1 Cor. 16. 1 2 3 4. 2 Cor. 8. 1 2 3. Col. 4. 17. By reason of our Assemblies no man though most eminent in gifts piety or authority may play the Diotrephes 3 John v. 10. or hath power to cast out the brethren out of the Church 2. By Assemblies order of gifts and subordination of the part to the whole is maintained as Antioch is inferiour to both Antioch Jerusalem Syria and Cilicia convened in a Synod Acts 15. v. 23. compared with 28. Acts 6. both the Church of the Hebrewes and the Church of the Grecians are subject to a Synod of Apostles and Disciples v. 2. and Peter a pillar of the Church and Paul inferiour to none of the greatest Apostles are subject to Synods Acts 11. 1 2 3. Acts 21. 19 20 21 c. 3. By Assemblies schismes dissentions Acts 15. 2 and errors or heresies subverting the soules of these of particular Churches Antioch Syria and Cilicia ver 23 24. are removed out of the Church and unity preserved In keeping of the Decrees of Assemblies particular Churches doe well v. 28. and so are the Churches established in the faith and increase in number daily Acts 16. 4 5. and Religion is restored to it's purity and the Land enters into Covenant to seeke the Lord God of their Father and rejoyce at the oath and seeke the Lord with their whole desire and he is found of them 2 Chron. 15. 12 13 14 15. and this have we found So long as we were as Judah who ruled with God and was faithfull with the Saints Hos. 11. v. 12. and went not to Gilgal nor up to Beth-aven Hos 4. 15. In Church-censures we proceed thus In private faults if a brother offend a brother he is admonished alone by the offended If that gaine him not he is admonished before two or three If that prevaile not the matter is brought before the Church which hath power of the keyes If he obey not the Church he is excommunicated Mat. 18. 15 16 17 18 19 20. in more hainous and publike faults the scandalous person is not so dealt with but where the fault is grosse and hainous the offender more quickly is delivered to Satan as 1 Cor. 5. 4. 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. Where obstin●cy and wilfull impenitencie is added to lesser scandals the offender is excommunicated as 1 Thes. 3. 14. yet with great meeknesse and longanimity for he is three Lords dayes publikely admonished and three Lords dayes publikely prayed for as this gentlenesse is required in the Lords servants 2 Tim. 24 25 before they cut off any 1 Cor 4. 21. The censures publike of the Churches are rebukes in publike as Paul requireth 1 Tim. 5. 20. and that the rebuke may be publike and the rebuked may make publike confession before the offended Congregation He standeth in a publike place which we call the stoole or pillar of repentance which hath both a warrant by natures light which requireth that he who speaketh to a multitude should stand in a place where all may commodious●y heare to whom he speaketh as Judg. 9. 7. Deut 27. 12 13. And also in Scripture by Salomons example who on a scaffold spake to the people 1 Chron. 14. 30. and the practise of Ezra who read to the people the booke of the Law in a pulpit of wood which they had made for the purpose Nehem. 8. 4. which also is a warrant for a pulpit 2. To this publike rebuking there is a second censure adjoyned which is a debarring of the offender from the Lords Supper 1 Cor. 11. 28. which is our lesser excommunication 3. Our third censure is the greater excommunication which is done by the whole Congregation as all other censures but divers wayes by the Presbytery or Eldership judicially and authoritatively by Paul his pastorall spirit 1 Cor. 5. 4. the Minister in the Churches name pronouncing the sentence 1 Tim. 1. 20. and and by the people 1. consenting and approving 1 Cor. 5. 4 5 6. 2. Mourning and being humbled at the sinne 1 Cor. 5. 2. 3. Abstaining from all brotherly fellowship and familiarity with him 1 Cor. 10. 11 12. except where the law
not absolutely but upon condition it agrees to Gods Word They fifthly urge But I am necessitated in a false Church to communicate with those whom I know to be no members of the true Church but limbs of Satan because in Gods court they are excommunicated and no members of the Church but through the corruption of these that have the power of the keyes these are permitted to be members of the Church who in Gods court are no members at all and if I remaine in the Church I must communicate with them yea if I remaine in the Church I must communicate at that table where the holy things of God are prophaned by dogges and swine therefore in that case I must separate Answ. In your holiest independant Church where discipline is m●st in vigour you meet with this doubt and must separate also if this reason be good For suppose you know one to be guilty of adultery and murther and had seen it with your eyes the party guilty to you is not guilty to the Church For 1. you are but one none is guilty Ecclesiastically and to be debar●ed penally and judicially from the holy things of God except by confession to the Church or by two or three witnesses 2. You know what is holden by all our Divines yea even the Canon Law and Papists teach that the Church cannot judge of hid things and acts of the mind So saith Thom. Aquin. Cajetan Soto Durandus Almain Gerson Navar. Driedo Joan. Maior Paludan Antonin their ground is good The Church cannot judge of that they cannot see And the Churches power of the keyes is all for the externall policy of the Church and therefore such a sinne cannot be the object of Church-censure or cause of Separation Excommunication is ever used against externall scandals Mat. 18. 15. 1 Cor. 5. 1. 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. 2 Thes. 3 14. shew one place where the Church excommunicateth for non-regeneration 6. They object It is not lawfull to call God Father ioyntly with these who are not brethren but sonnes of Satan Ergo we are to separate from such So Smith reasoneth Answ. Except they be all and every one the sonnes of God that are in our visible Church and not one hypocrite or childe of Satan amongst them by this argument we must separate from them and so Separatists are to separate from their owne Congregation wherein they acknowledge there be hypocrites This is Anabaptisticall holinesse Isa. 65. 7. They object It is not lawfull to make Christ a Mediator to all the prophane in the land and to make all the prophane members of his body Ergo we are to separate from a confused Church Answ. So was Corinth Galatin Ephesus confused Churches wherein there were hypocrites We make Christ Mediator and Head to the visible Church according to the best part as Christ speaketh Joh. 17. Thine they were when Judas was never Gods And Paul calleth Corinth Saints Colosse Saints and faithfull brethren and Peter the elected according to the fore-knowledge of God begotten againe to a lively hope where yet there was some at Corinth 2. Cor. 2. 16. To whom the Gospell was the savour of death unto death some to whom it was hidden whom Satan had blinded 2 Cor. 4. 3. And some in Colosse carried away with Angel-worship not holding the head Christ some of those to whom Peter writeth were such who stumbled at the stone laid on Zion and there was amongst them false teachers privily bringing in damnable Heresies 2. and many followed their pernicious wayes spots feasting amongst the Saints having eyes full of Adultery that cannot cease from sinne c. 8 They object These that are mixed with unbeleevers consent to all the sinnes of the unbeleevers and to all their prophanation of the holy things of God seeing God hath given them the power of the keyes to hold out and excommunicate all wicked persons therefore beleevers are to separate from all prophaners of the Covenant except they would forfeit their Covenant Answ. A simple worshipping with hypocrites whom we know not is not a consent to their prophanation of the holy things of God Christs eating the Passeover with Judas the Disciples eating the Passeover when Christ said One of you hath a Devill one of you shall betray me did not import consent nor partaking with Judas his prophaning of the Sacraments 2. Neither hath God given to all beleevers the power of the keyes that way as is alleadged 3. Suppose the Eldership in whose hands onely are the keyes should permit a knowne adulterer who never professed his repentance therefore to the Lords Table yet this were not in the Eldership the sinne against the Holy-Ghost and to forfeit the Covenant though it were a great sinne 9. They object God commandeth the godly to plead with their mother because saith he she is not my wife nor I her husband Ergo if the Church turne a harlot the children are to protest and plead against her as reputing her no mother and so they are to forsake her Answ. If this place prove lawfulnesse of separation from the Jewish Church as from a harlot cast off of God it shall crosse a maine principle of Separatists that the Jewish Church was the onely visible Church from which it was not lawfull to separate seeing the Messiah behooved to be borne there and the Temple sacrifices were onely there Also this pleading was for harlotry and Idolatry But M. Smith and others say that wickednesse and Idolatry did not marre the constitution of the Jewish Church so being they had ceremoniall and typicall holinesse according to the letter of the outward legall service and so from this separation from the true Church is vainly collected 2. Plead with your mother for her harlotries Hence it followeth first 1. They were to esteem her as a mother and of duty as sonnes to plead with her 2. If they were to plead with her and rebuke her they were to keep communion with her because non-rebuking for a time is a signe of separation and suspending communion for a time Ezech. 3. 26. Thou shalt be dumbe and shalt not be to them a reprover for they are a rebellious house Ergo reproving is a signe of communion But they say they were to plead with their mother by power of the keyes and if their mother would not return to the Lord her first husband then they were to goe on to a full separation from her I answer Then two or three faithfull ones in the Church of the Jewes no lesse then in the Christian Church were a true visible Church having the power of the keyes This is contrary to their owne doctrine who make a typicall and ceremoniall cleannesse sufficient to constitute the Jewish Church but require a reall true and spirituall holinesse to the constitution of the Church of the New Testament For if the children may plead with the mother for