member_n of_o the_o invisible_a church_n may_v be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o so_o their_o infant-seed_n have_v right_a to_o baptism_n if_o this_o be_v so_o we_o may_v question_v whether_o it_o can_v be_v lawful_a for_o minister_n or_o any_o man_n to_o dispense_v baptism_n to_o any_o person_n at_o all_o and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o can_v certain_o know_v who_o have_v such_o true_a faith_n and_o holiness_n and_o so_o be_v church-member_n for_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n say_v a_o little_a before_o in_o pag._n 49._o that_o though_o god_n search_v and_o know_v the_o heart_n yet_o the_o church_n do_v not_o de_fw-fr occultis_fw-la non_fw-la judicat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la this_o we_o believe_v to_o be_v very_o true_a and_o therefore_o if_o this_o hold_n that_o none_o may_v be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o give_v right_a to_o their_o seed_n unto_o baptism_n but_o only_o they_o who_o have_v true_a faith_n and_o holiness_n and_o so_o be_v 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now_o they_o make_v a_o good_a profession_n before_o many_o witness_n even_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o do_v no_o way_n contradict_v their_o profession_n by_o any_o scandalous_a practice_n in_o their_o life_n and_o therefore_o though_o that_o be_v true_a which_o the_o reverend_a author_n here_o say_v pag._n 50._o that_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n and_o that_o therefore_o there_o must_v be_v true_a faith_n in_o they_o who_o he_o privilege_v to_o baptize_v their_o infant_n that_o be_v as_o we_o understand_v he_o who_o he_o privilege_v to_o present_v their_o infant_n to_o baptism_n yet_o for_o all_o this_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a enough_o to_o administer_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n of_o parent_n qualify_v as_o in_o the_o five_o and_o six_o propos._n and_o they_o that_o do_v administer_v may_v have_v faith_n to_o please_v god_n therein_o because_o of_o the_o church-relation_n and_o good_a profession_n of_o the_o parent_n though_o the_o parent_n can_v 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when_o the_o synod_n shall_v come_v together_o to_o answer_v these_o question_n whether_o ever_o or_o never_o we_o do_v not_o know_v nor_o do_v see_v any_o great_a probability_n of_o such_o a_o thing_n and_o therefore_o no_o more_o be_v here_o say_v against_o this_o proposition_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o it_o yet_o stand_v firm_a and_o good_a and_o as_o he_o conclude_v that_o thus_o much_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o present_a for_o reply_v to_o the_o synod_n answer_v to_o the_o first_o question_n so_o may_v we_o conclude_v that_o thus_o much_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o present_a for_o defence_n of_o the_o synod_n answer_v against_o what_o he_o say_v to_o the_o contrary_a in_o his_o reply_n concern_v the_o reverend_a author_n discourse_n upon_o the_o second_o question_n touch_v consociation_n of_o church_n we_o shall_v not_o trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o any_o large_a reply_n and_o we_o hope_v it_o need_v nor_o because_o there_o appear_v no_o dissent_n or_o dissatisfaction_n in_o the_o synod_n about_o that_o matter_n our_o brethren_n that_o dissent_v in_o the_o former_a question_n ready_o and_o full_o concur_v in_o this_o as_o themselves_o declare_v in_o antisynodâ—liâ—_n pag._n 12._o beside_o part_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n exception_n refer_v to_o the_o platform_n of_o discipline_n conclude_v on_o with_o great_a unanimity_n in_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o cambridge_n anno_fw-la 1648._o sundry_a principal_a member_n whereof_o as_o mr._n cotton_n shepard_n rogers_n norton_n etc._n etc._n be_v now_o at_o rest_n with_o god_n we_o shall_v not_o now_o after_o so_o many_o year_n wherein_o we_o hear_v of_o no_o opposition_n make_v that_o a_o subject_n of_o debate_n but_o if_o the_o reader_n please_v to_o take_v along_o with_o he_o these_o three_o or_o four_o consideration_n they_o may_v serve_v to_o take_v off_o what_o be_v here_o object_v against_o we_o by_o the_o reverend_a author_n 1._o that_o we_o never_o say_v nor_o think_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o withdraw_n from_o other_o church_n upon_o difference_n error_n or_o offence_n of_o a_o inferior_a and_o dubious_a nature_n yea_o though_o continue_v in_o we_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o hastiness_n or_o harshness_n in_o that_o matter_n be_v profess_a adversary_n to_o a_o spirit_n of_o sinful_a and_o rigid_a separation_n we_o hope_v there_o be_v no_o word_n in_o the_o synod_n conclusion_n that_o savour_v thereof_o if_o candid_o interpret_v and_o for_o withdraw_v from_o brethren_n because_o of_o dissent_n from_o what_o be_v here_o hold_v forth_o by_o this_o synod_n both_o our_o practice_n and_o our_o profession_n in_o the_o preface_n to_o that_o book_n do_v sufficient_o show_v we_o to_o be_v far_o from_o it_o this_o may_v answer_v what_o be_v say_v this_o way_n in_o pag._n 54_o 55_o 57_o 63._o 2._o that_o we_o account_v not_o consociation_n of_o church_n to_o be_v another_o thing_n thâ—n_o communion_n of_o church_n but_o only_o a_o agreement_n to_o practise_v that_o communion_n as_o be_v express_o say_v in_o propos._n 5_o &_o 6_o and_o therefore_o we_o understand_v not_o why_o the_o reverend_a author_n shall_v so_o often_o praise_v communion_n of_o church_n as_o pag._n 58_o 59_o 60_o 61._o and_o yet_o dispraise_v and_o dislike_n consociation_n be_v regular_n communion_n so_o good_a and_o excellent_a and_o can_v it_o be_v hurtful_a for_o church_n to_o agree_v and_o consent_n to_o practise_v it_o neither_o do_v we_o mean_v by_o that_o agreement_n a_o vow_n as_o be_v suggest_v pag._n 56_o 57_o or_o a_o formal_a covenant_n in_o a_o strict_a sense_n though_o mr._n cotton_n do_v not_o refuse_v to_o call_v it_o a_o covenant_n in_o key_n p._n 54.59_o but_o only_o a_o declare_a consent_n as_o be_v express_v propos._n 7._o of_o each_o church_n to_o walk_v in_o regular_a communion_n with_o their_o neighbour-churche_n and_o if_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v approve_v of_o the_o act_n of_o communion_n here_o
baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n whereunto_o be_v add_v somewhat_o out_o of_o bucer_n parker_n and_o mr._n cotton_n as_o concur_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o brethren_n ans._n take_v capable_a of_o receive_v baptism_n himself_o or_o right_o to_o baptism_n himself_o for_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o capacity_n we_o may_v grant_v the_o major_n but_o the_o minor_a in_o manifest_o to_o be_v deny_v but_o take_v it_o for_o a_o frame_n of_o actual_a fitness_n to_o receive_v baptism_n we_o can_v say_v that_o we_o may_v grant_v the_o minor_a but_o sure_o the_o major_n will_v not_o hold_v it_o be_v true_a that_o that_o which_o do_v not_o put_v a_o man_n into_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v i._n e._n into_o a_o state_n of_o church-membership_a will_v not_o enable_v he_o to_o give_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o a_o member_n or_o not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o covenant_n interest_n none_o 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of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o the_o proposition_n speak_v of_o church-member_n such_o as_o be_v admit_v member_n in_o minority_n and_o do_v orderly_a and_o regular_o so_o continue_v and_o that_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n be_v a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o that_o all_o church-member_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o subject_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o evident_a truth_n that_o can_v be_v deny_v by_o any_o that_o grant_v the_o synod_n first_o proposition_n for_o which_o there_o be_v sun-light_n in_o scripture_n and_o never_o be_v orthodox_n divine_a hear_v of_o that_o question_v it_o hence_o according_a to_o that_o rule_v case_n here_o mention_v the_o parent_n in_o question_n have_v themselves_o a_o title_n to_o baptism_n may_v entitle_v other_o they_o have_v not_o only_o a_o title_n to_o it_o but_o regular_a and_o actual_a possession_n of_o it_o for_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o in_o case_n they_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v they_o will_v be_v church-member_n 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covenant_n in_o which_o they_o be_v include_v and_o so_o receive_v also_o by_o god_n say_v mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n that_o be_v here_o cite_v survey_v part_n 3._o pag._n 18._o 2._o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v yield_v that_o the_o parent_n describe_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o five_o proposition_n will_v not_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n themseluâ—s_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v though_o you_o take_v right_a to_o baptism_n for_o actual_a and_o immediate_a fitness_n for_o the_o same_o in_o fero_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sure_o he_o will_v have_v a_o hard_a talk_n who_o shall_v undertake_v out_o of_o scripture_n or_o orthodox_n divine_v to_o show_v that_o adult_a person_n understanding_n and_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o public_o profess_v the_o same_o not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n and_o solemn_o take_v hâ—ld_n of_o the_o covenant_n wherein_o they_o
which_o do_v amount_v further_o 3._o whereas_o the_o synod_n say_v child_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v have_v frequent_o the_o beginning_n of_o grace_n wrought_v in_o they_o in_o young_a year_n at_o scripture_n and_o experience_n show_v instance_n joseph_n samuel_n etc._n etc._n hence_o this_o sort_n of_o person_n show_v nothing_o to_o the_o contrary_a be_v in_o charity_n or_o to_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n visible_a believer_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v indeed_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n but_o if_o when_o they_o be_v adult_n they_o do_v not_o covenant_n for_o themselves_o and_o their_o seed_n be_v fit_o qualify_v they_o can_v then_o be_v fiâ—ly_o call_v child_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o transgressor_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o breaker_n of_o it_o ans._n 1._o if_o they_o be_v breaker_n of_o it_o then_o sure_o they_o be_v comprehend_v in_o it_o for_o 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of_o it_o be_v to_o be_v deny_v the_o assertion_n be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v regular_o in_o the_o church_n infant_n and_o child_n in_o minority_n of_o confederate_a believer_n be_v in_o the_o church_n by_o their_o parent_n covenant_v for_o they_o 1_o cor._n 7.14_o but_o parent_n be_v not_o so_o till_o etc._n etc._n ans._n it_o be_v here_o again_o confess_v that_o infant_n and_o child_n in_o minority_n be_v regular_o in_o the_o church_n but_o not_o so_o when_o they_o be_v adult_n and_o come_v to_o be_v parent_n but_o of_o their_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n notwithstanding_o their_o come_n to_o be_v adult_n something_o have_v be_v say_v before_o and_o more_o may_v in_o the_o six_o argument_n partic._n 3_o but_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v the_o proof_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v and_o be_v not_o apposite_a we_o conceive_v it_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o be_v very_o apposite_a for_o the_o purpose_n for_o which_o the_o synod_n do_v allege_v it_o which_o be_v to_o 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59.21_o ezek._n 37.25_o 28._o psal._n 102.16_o 28._o jer._n 32_o 39_o the_o reverend_a author_n apply_v all_o these_o very_a text_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n which_o church_n he_o say_v must_v consist_v for_o the_o matter_n of_o it_o of_o elect_a and_o sincere_a believer_n only_o both_o they_o and_o their_o child_n successive_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o which_o he_o allege_v the_o text_n aforementioned_a pag._n 33._o ans._n it_o be_v free_o grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v and_o convert_v shall_v be_v very_o holy_a and_o glorious_a and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o that_o church_n shall_v have_v none_o in_o it_o but_o only_o elect_v and_o sincere_a believer_n both_o they_o and_o their_o child_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o when_o christ_n shall_v come_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o church_n though_o it_o be_v compare_v to_o 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