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A59898 A vindication of a passage in Dr. Sherlock's sermon preached before the honourable House of Commons, May 29, 1685 : from the remarks of a late pretended remonstrance, by way of address from the Church of England, to both Houses of Parliament. Sherlock, William, 1641?-1707. 1685 (1685) Wing S3369; ESTC R202693 19,865 30

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calvinist_n may_v be_v secure_a in_o the_o loyalty_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o reverence_v the_o person_n and_o authority_n of_o their_o prince_n whatever_o his_o religion_n be_v as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v concern_v our_o present_a king_n who_o god_n long_o preserve_v there_o be_v less_o reason_n for_o he_o to_o fear_v the_o depose_v doctrine_n though_o he_o do_v believe_v it_o to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n than_o for_o any_o other_o catholic_n prince_n in_o the_o world_n for_o as_o the_o case_n stand_v it_o be_v finis_fw-la remonst_z p._n 2._o roman_a cathol_n principle_n p._n 6._o conc._n to._n 12._o p._n 144._o suarez_n defence_n fid_fw-we lib._n 6._o cap._n 4._o council_n constance_n sess._n 39_o si_fw-mi verò_fw-la dominus_fw-la temporalis_fw-la requisitus_fw-la &_o monitus_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la terram_fw-la svam_fw-la purgare_fw-la neglexerit_fw-la ab_fw-la hac_fw-la haeretica_fw-la faeditate_v per_fw-la metropolitanum_n &_o caeteros_fw-la comprovinciales_fw-la episcopos_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la vinculo_fw-la innodetur_fw-la &_o si_fw-la satisfacere_fw-la contempserit_fw-la infra_fw-la annum_fw-la significetur_fw-la hoc_fw-la summo_fw-la pontifici_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la tunc_fw-la ipse_fw-la vassallos_n ab_fw-la ejus_fw-la fidelitate_fw-la denunciet_a absolutos_fw-la &_o terram_fw-la exponat_fw-la catholicis_fw-la occupandum_fw-la qui_fw-la eam_fw-la exterminatis_fw-la haereticis_fw-la sine_fw-la ullâ_fw-la contradictione_n possideant_fw-la &_o in_o fidei_fw-la puritate_fw-la conservent_fw-la salvo_fw-la jure_fw-la domini_fw-la principalis_fw-la dummodo_fw-la super_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipse_fw-la nullum_fw-la praestet_fw-la obstaculum_fw-la nec_fw-la aliquod_fw-la impedimentum_fw-la opponat_fw-la eâdem_fw-la nihilo_fw-la minus_fw-la lege_fw-la servatâ_fw-la circa_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la habent_fw-la dominos_fw-la principales_fw-la council_n to._n 11._o p._n 148_o 149._o edit_fw-la ●abb_n council_n const._n sess._n 45._o omnes_fw-la &_o singulos_fw-la haereticos_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la necnon_fw-la sectatores_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la haeresum_fw-la &_o errorum_fw-la utriusque_fw-la sexùs_fw-la tenentes_fw-la &_o etiam_fw-la defendentes_fw-la eosdem_fw-la &_o haereticis_fw-la ipsis_fw-la quo_fw-la modo_fw-la libet_fw-la publicè_fw-la vel_fw-la occultè_fw-la in_o divinis_fw-la vel_fw-la alius_fw-la participantes_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la patriarchali_n episcopali_fw-la regali_fw-la reginali_n ducali_n aut_fw-la aliâ_fw-la quâvis_fw-la ecclesiasticà_fw-la vel_fw-la mundanâ_fw-la praesulgeant_fw-la dignitate_fw-la excommunicatos_fw-la singulos_fw-la diebus_fw-la dominicis_fw-la &_o festivis_fw-la in_o praesentia_fw-la populi_fw-la nuntietis_fw-la &_o per_fw-la alios_fw-la nuntiari_fw-la faciatis_fw-la et_fw-la nihil_fw-la ominous_a contra_fw-la eosdem_fw-la omnes_fw-la &_o singulos_fw-la utriusque_fw-la sexus_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la errores_fw-la tenentes_fw-la approbantes_fw-la defendentes_fw-la dogmatizantes_fw-la ac_fw-la fautores_fw-la &_o receptatores_fw-la &_o defensores_fw-la eorundem_fw-la exemptos_fw-la &_o non_fw-la exemptos_fw-la &_o quemlibet_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la cujuscunque_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la status_fw-la praeeminentiae_fw-la gradus_fw-la ordinis_fw-la vel_fw-la conditionis_fw-la ut_fw-la praefertur_fw-la existant_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la nostrâ_fw-la diligenter_fw-la inquirere_fw-la studeatis_fw-la &_o eos_fw-la quos_fw-la per_fw-la inquisitionem_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la defamatos_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la confessionem_fw-la eorum_fw-la seu_fw-la per_fw-la facti_fw-la evidentiam_fw-la vel_fw-la alius_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la haeresis_fw-la aut_fw-la erroris_fw-la labe_fw-la resperso_n reperietis_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la praedictâ_fw-la etiam_fw-la per_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la suspensionis_fw-la &_o interdicti_fw-la necnon_fw-la privationis_fw-la dignitatum_fw-la personatuum_fw-la &_o officiorum_fw-la aliorumque_fw-la beneficiorum_fw-la ecclesiasticorum_fw-la ac_fw-la feudorum_fw-la quae_fw-la à_fw-la quibuscumque_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la monasteriis_fw-la ac_fw-la aliis_fw-la locis_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la obtinent_fw-la ac_fw-la etiam_fw-la bonorum_fw-la &_o dignitatum_fw-la saecularium_fw-la ac_fw-la graduum_fw-la scientiarum_fw-la quarumcunque_fw-la facultatum_fw-la &_o per_fw-la alius_fw-la poenas_fw-la sententias_fw-la &_o censuras_fw-la ecclesiasticas_fw-la ac_fw-la vias_fw-la &_o modos_fw-la quos_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la expedire_fw-la seu_fw-la opportunos_fw-la esse_fw-la videritis_fw-la etiam_fw-la pèr_fw-la captiones_fw-la &_o incarcerationes_fw-la personarum_fw-la &_o alius_fw-la poenas_fw-la corporales_fw-la quibus_fw-la haeretici_fw-la puniuntur_fw-la seu_fw-la puniri_fw-la jubentur_fw-la aut_fw-la solent_fw-la juxta_fw-la canonicas_fw-la sanctiones_fw-la conc._n const._n sess._n 45_o to._n 12._o p._n 271._o richerius_n hist._n conc._n gener._n part_n 2._o p._n 162._o council_n to._n 12._o p._n 268._o p._n 18._o p._n 10._o p._n 13._o p._n 14._o answer_v to_o the_o first_o treatise_n p._n 5._o ibid._n p._n 71._o remonst_z p._n 2._o