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A66932 A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ... Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1654 (1654) Wing W3399; ESTC R206983 330,782 402

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authoritative_o preach_v with_o he_o else_o his_o preach_n be_v null_a 2._o but_o wave_v this_o and_o grant_v it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v first_o give_v to_o believer_n and_o so_o to_o peter_n not_o as_o a_o minister_n but_o as_o represent_v believer_n i_o do_v not_o see_v how_o it_o must_v of_o necessity_n follow_v that_o the_o body_n of_o professor_n must_v act_v authoritative_o joint_o with_o the_o ruler_n in_o the_o exert_n of_o that_o power_n for_o we_o may_v suppose_v it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n not_o formal_o but_o radical_o and_o virtual_o to_o be_v by_o they_o derive_v to_o ruler_n to_o be_v formal_o exert_v by_o these_o only_a and_o then_o the_o consequent_a will_v not_o follow_v as_o suppose_v it_o be_v true_a which_o many_o politician_n and_o with_o they_o some_o divine_n maintain_v which_o yet_o for_o myself_o i_o can_v see_v solid_a proof_n of_o that_o the_o power_n of_o civil_a government_n be_v first_o give_v 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design_n for_o ministerial_a office_n in_o the_o church_n by_o who_o only_o it_o be_v to_o be_v formal_o exert_v and_o exercise_v which_o yet_o be_v a_o mistake_n section_n 2_o but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o the_o author_n prove_v his_o antecedent_n viz._n that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v not_o first_o give_v to_o peter_n as_o a_o apostle_n or_o as_o a_o elder_a but_o as_o a_o bel●ever_n only_o by_o the_o way_n first_o it_o be_v worthy_a observation_n that_o these_o of_o the_o independent_a way_n be_v not_o at_o agreement_n among_o themselves_o yea_o nor_o some_o of_o they_o with_o themselves_o touch_v this_o matter_n of_o the_o first_o subject_n to_o which_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v as_o we_o see_v mark_v in_o their_o own_o expression_n by_o the_o learned_a mr._n caudrey_n in_o his_o scheme_n of_o contradiction_n and_o contrariety_n in_o the_o independent_a way_n
subjoin_v to_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la vindiciarum_fw-la i_o shall_v here_o note_v some_o few_o of_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n for_o the_o reader_n who_o may_v be_v have_v not_o the_o book_n at_o hand_n 1._o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n as_o a_o apostle_n as_o a_o elder_a and_o as_o a_o believer_n so_o the_o sense_n be_v most_o sit_v the_o key_n pag._n 4._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n not_o as_o a_o apostle_n nor_o as_o a_o elder_a but_o as_o a_o profess_a believer_n the_o way_n peter_n receive_v not_o the_o key_n mere_o as_o a_o believer_n but_o as_o a_o believer_n public_o profess_v his_o faith_n the_o way_n clear_v p._n 2._o fol._n 39_o 9_o it_o appear_v that_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o fraternity_n with_o the_o presbytery_n ibid._n and_o the_o way_n clear_v part._n 2._o pag._n 22._o a_o particular_a church_n of_o saint_n profess_v the_o faith_n i_o member_n without_o offificer_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o the_o church_n office_n with_o all_o their_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o power_n the_o key_n pag._n 31._o 9_o as_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v diverse_a so_o be_v the_o subject_n to_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v diverse_a the_o key_n pag._n 11._o so_o locky_a here_o but_o that_o he_o add_v not_o profess_v the_o apostle_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o apostolical_a power_n ibid._n 32._o a_o synod_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o that_o power_n whereby_o error_n be_v convince_v and_o condemn_v ibid._n pag._n 47._o not_o believer_n as_o believer_n but_o believer_n convenant_v and_o fit_o capable_a according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n hook_n suru._n p._n 1._o p._n 203._o 9_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n belong_v first_o to_o a_o congregation_n of_o covenant_a believer_n hook_n suru._n part._n 1._o pag._n 219._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o the_o first_o subject_n ibid._n p._n 195._o that_o conceit_n be_v wide_a to_o make_v 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