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A67648 Dr. Stillingfleet still against Dr. Stillingfleet, or, The examination of Dr. Stillingfleet against Dr. Stillingfleet examined by J.W. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1675 (1675) Wing W910; ESTC R34719 108,236 297

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he_o declare_v we_o free_a but_o of_o the_o latter_a he_o make_v we_o guilty_a and_o we_o poor_a soul_n because_o we_o can_v discern_v such_o subtle_a distinction_n as_o these_o must_v be_v chalk_v up_o for_o half-witted_n man_n but_o if_o the_o accomplishedness_n of_o dr._n st.'s_n wit_n have_v no_o more_o of_o wit_n in_o it_o than_o no_o idolatry_n have_v of_o idolatry_n we_o have_v little_a reason_n to_o envy_v he_o yet_o far_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o a_o church_n which_o hold_v any_o damnable_a error_n shall_v be_v a_o true_a church_n for_o all_o damnable_a error_n lead_v to_o damnation_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n be_v call_v damnable_a but_o a_o true_a church_n carry_v to_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v true_a in_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o the_o obtain_n thereof_o nor_o among_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o obtain_n tain_v of_o salvation_n one_o be_v the_o avoid_v all_o damnable_a error_n as_o be_v destructive_a thereunto_o whence_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o church_n which_o hold_v any_o damnable_a error_n can_v so_o long_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o to_o hold_v any_o idolatry_n whatsoever_o be_v without_o question_n a_o damnable_a error_n since_o all_o idolatry_n be_v damnable_a and_o destructive_a to_o salvation_n yea_o dr._n st._n pag._n 34._o charge_v our_o church_n with_o damnable_a error_n especial_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o the_o idolatry_n which_o as_o he_o fancy_n she_o do_v teach_v and_o which_o page_n 22._o he_o own_v to_o be_v very_o sinful_a neither_o do_v i_o believe_v that_o the_o dr._n will_v dare_v to_o affirm_v that_o a_o church_n which_o shall_v teach_v adultery_n to_o be_v lawful_a can_v so_o long_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o idolatry_n be_v no_o less_o damnable_a and_o destructive_a to_o salvation_n than_o adultery_n wherefore_o to_o hold_v either_o of_o they_o as_o lawful_a be_v equal_o at_o least_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n it_o be_v therefore_o impossible_a that_o the_o roman_a church_n shall_v hold_v any_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n as_o dr._n st._n will_v needs_o have_v we_o believe_v she_o do_v without_o hold_v a_o damnable_a and_o fundamental_a error_n destructive_a to_o the_o very_a essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n for_o in_o the_o dictionary_n of_o such_o as_o have_v any_o insight_n into_o religious_a concern_v a_o fundamental_a error_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n a_o damnable_a error_n and_o a_o error_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n be_v term_n synonymous_n moreover_o whereas_o the_o very_a vital_n of_o a_o religion_n be_v the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o the_o salvation_n of_o soul_n idolatry_n undermine_v they_o both_o by_o give_v the_o honour_n due_a only_o unto_o god_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n and_o by_o lead_v soul_n to_o damnation_n how_o therefore_o can_v it_o choose_v but_o destroy_v the_o very_a essence_n of_o a_o true_a religion_n and_o as_o a_o high_a treason_n whereby_o one_o do_v give_v the_o honour_n and_o respect_v due_a only_o to_o his_o sovereign_n to_o a_o mere_a subject_n be_v beyond_o debate_n contrary_a to_o a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o loyalty_n and_o destructive_a thereunto_o so_o it_o be_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n to_o assert_v that_o such_o a_o person_n be_v a_o true_a and_o faithful_a subject_n but_o yet_o a_o traitor_n in_o the_o like_a manner_n since_o by_o all_o idolatry_n according_a to_o the_o notion_n thereof_o assent_v unto_o even_o by_o dr._n st._n be_v give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o honour_n due_a only_o unto_o god_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n idolatry_n be_v high_a treason_n against_o god_n dr._n st._n must_v needs_o be_v guilty_a of_o self_n contradiction_n in_o affirm_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n but_o yet_o idolatrous_a whence_o appear_v that_o the_o instance_n of_o a_o traitor_n allege_v by_o the_o dr._n page_n 25._o make_v rather_o against_o he_o than_o for_o he_o where_o we_o must_v reflect_v that_o according_a to_o dr._n st._n not_o only_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o also_o her_o doctrine_n be_v idolatrous_a since_o she_o teach_v and_o approve_v of_o that_o very_a practice_n which_o she_o judge_v to_o be_v idolatrous_a hitherto_o we_o have_v show_v that_o all_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o very_a essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o by_o consequence_n that_o it_o be_v a_o manifest_a contradiction_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o deprave_v with_o idolatry_n however_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o my_o purpose_n to_o evince_v that_o that_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n which_o dr._n st._n father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n destroy_v the_o very_a essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n which_o i_o shall_v prove_v in_o the_o follow_a chapter_n chap._n vi_o another_o proof_n of_o the_o same_o intent_n draw_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o idolatry_n the_o doctor_n father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o idolatry_n dr._n st._n endeavour_n to_o fasten_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v as_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v at_o large_a in_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o idolatry_n practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 58._o &_o seq_fw-la point_n blank_a against_o the_o second_o command_v according_a to_o their_o reckon_n of_o the_o decalogue_n and_o be_v immediate_o opposite_a thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o this_o commandment_n contain_v a_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n since_o it_o so_o near_o concern_v god_n honour_n and_o worship_n the_o chief_a aim_n of_o religion_n whence_o it_o manifest_o follow_v that_o the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v destructive_a to_o a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n and_o by_o consequence_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o very_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n beside_o the_o dr._n do_v willing_o confess_v and_o it_o will_v be_v a_o madness_n not_o to_o do_v so_o that_o there_o be_v some_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n destructive_a not_o only_o to_o the_o soundess_n for_o this_o be_v general_a to_o all_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n but_o also_o to_o the_o very_a essence_n and_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n see_v his_o answer_n pag._n 24._o whence_o we_o infer_v that_o whatever_o church_n hold_v that_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n can_v so_o long_o be_v a_o true_a church_n whatever_o other_o tenet_n she_o maintain_v so_o that_o it_o will_v have_v be_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n in_o dr._n st._n even_o according_a to_o his_o own_o doctrine_n have_v he_o hold_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n as_o he_o do_v and_o yet_o charge_v she_o with_o the_o forementioned_a kind_n of_o idolatry_n now_o let_v we_o examine_v what_o character_n dr._n st._n give_v we_o of_o the_o idolatry_n he_o be_v please_v to_o father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o idolatry_n practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 69._o he_o say_v thus_o it_o seem_v much_o more_o reasonable_a for_o i_o to_o worship_n god_n by_o prostrate_v myself_o to_o the_o sun_n or_o any_o of_o the_o heavenly_a body_n nay_o to_o a_o ant_n or_o a_o fly_n than_o to_o a_o picture_n or_o image_n and_o he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v this_o his_o assertion_n according_a to_o which_o the_o idolatry_n he_o fasten_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o veneration_n of_o the_o picture_n or_o image_n of_o god_n be_v esteem_v by_o he_o far_o worse_o than_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sun_n moon_n a_o ant_n or_o a_o fly_n practise_v by_o the_o heathen_n pag._n 132._o he_o approve_v this_o testimony_n of_o costerus_n if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o true_a the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n in_o worship_v some_o golden_a or_o silver_n statue_n or_o any_o image_n of_o their_o god_n or_o the_o laplander_n in_o worship_v a_o red_a cloth_n or_o the_o egyptian_n a_o animal_n be_v more_o excusable_a than_o of_o christian_n that_o worship_n a_o bit_n of_o bread_n this_o costerus_n asfirm_v only_o upon_o this_o condition_n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o true_a but_o dr._n st._n who_o absolute_o judge_v that_o doctrine_n not_o to_o be_v true_a and_o moreover_o approve_v the_o foresay_a testimony_n of_o costerus_n must_v needs_o hold_v the_o idolatry_n he_o impute_v to_o catholic_n in_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v more_o detestable_a than_o that_o of_o the_o egyptian_n and_o laplander_n pag._n 134._o he_o seem_v to_o approve_v this_o sentiment_n of_o dr._n taylour_n a_o image_n than_o become_v a_o idol_n when_o divine_a worship_n be_v give_v to_o it_o and_o to_o worship_n false_a god_n or_o to_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o
church_n with_o a_o idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n because_o the_o worship_n due_a only_o to_o god_n be_v give_v by_o we_o as_o he_o fancy_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n and_o not_o only_o with_o idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a and_o prohibit_v man-manner_n of_o worship_n which_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n he_o make_v mention_n of_o in_o the_o same_o page_n to_o confirm_v the_o former_a doctrine_n he_o say_v thus_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n by_o image_n wherewith_o he_o charge_v we_o the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n and_o i_o suppose_v he_o speak_v of_o a_o worship_n due_a only_o to_o god_n be_v terminate_v whole_o on_o the_o creature_n wherefore_o if_o this_o be_v idolatry_n it_o must_v be_v idolatry_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n much_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n may_v be_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o but_o what_o already_o i_o have_v produce_v be_v sufficient_a from_o what_o hitherto_o have_v be_v quote_v out_o of_o dr._n st._n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o 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disciple_n of_o the_o pharisee_n and_o officer_n of_o herod_n come_v to_o tempt_v our_o saviour_n mat._n 22._o they_o propose_v unto_o he_o a_o question_n and_o our_o saviour_n start_v a_o new_a question_n and_o raise_v a_o new_a difficulty_n solve_v the_o question_n propose_v unto_o he_o and_o silence_v his_o adversary_n but_o have_v dr._n st._n be_v with_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n in_o that_o occasion_n he_o will_v have_v suggest_v unto_o they_o that_o it_o be_v a_o clear_a evidence_n of_o a_o sophistical_a and_o cavil_v humour_n in_o order_n to_o answer_v one_o question_n to_o start_v another_o beside_o what_o question_n or_o difficulty_n do_v i_o start_v i_o take_v for_o grant_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n as_o dr._n st._n have_v heretofore_o and_o do_v still_o grant_v and_o hence_o i_o prove_v the_o nullity_n of_o the_o charge_n he_o lay_v against_o we_o which_o be_v the_o common_a way_n of_o confute_v a_o adversary_n viz._n out_o of_o principle_n 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excuse_v we_o from_o idolatry_n to_o say_v that_o we_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n to_o give_v that_o honour_n which_o we_o suppose_v to_o be_v due_a only_o to_o god_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n in_o case_n that_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o we_o give_v to_o mere_a creature_n any_o part_n of_o that_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n i_o do_v confess_v that_o be_v it_o once_o prove_v that_o we_o give_v any_o honour_n due_o only_a to_o god_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n such_o a_o acknowledgement_n will_v not_o excuse_v we_o from_o idolatry_n as_o it_o do_v not_o excuse_v the_o heathen_n from_o the_o like_a crime_n although_o they_o acknowledge_v the_o same_o truth_n but_o here_o we_o must_v reflect_v that_o sometime_o the_o dr._n say_v that_o it_o be_v idolatry_n to_o give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o honour_n due_a only_o to_o god_n and_o in_o that_o he_o say_v the_o truth_n othertime_n as_o in_o this_o place_n he_o omit_v only_o and_o speak_v of_o honour_n due_a 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than_o of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o teach_v the_o sun_n to_o be_v god_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o call_v it_o as_o venial_a a_o fault_n the_o worship_v that_o for_o the_o true_a god_n which_o be_v not_o so_o such_o be_v the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o we_o and_o term_n it_o the_o superstition_n of_o a_o undue_a way_n of_o worship_v as_o the_o worship_v false_a god_n which_o he_o style_v the_o superstitian_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n and_o pag._n 137._o he_o say_v thus_o the_o most_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a of_o all_o idolater_n who_o worship_n the_o very_a image_n for_o god_n which_o the_o wise_a among_o the_o heathen_n according_a to_o his_o judgement_n always_o disalow_v be_v in_o truth_n the_o most_o excusable_a upon_o this_o ground_n upon_o which_o we_o excuse_v from_o idolatry_n the_o veneration_n we_o give_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n and_o by_o consequence_n the_o idolatry_n he_o father_n upon_o we_o in_o this_o matter_n be_v in_o his_o opinion_n worse_o and_o less_o excusable_a than_o the_o most_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n in_o the_o page_n immediate_o before_o he_o compare_v our_o veneration_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n with_o the_o egyptian_n worship_v the_o sun_n for_o god_n and_o the_o israelite_n the_o golden_a calf_n believe_v it_o be_v the_o true_a god_n pag._n 142_o 143._o speak_v of_o the_o veneration_n the_o roman_a church_n allow_v to_o saint_n he_o add_v i_o will_v willing_o understand_v why_o i_o may_v not_o as_o well_o honour_n god_n by_o give_v worship_n to_o the_o sun_n as_o to_o ignatius_n loyola_n or_o st._n francis_n or_o any_o other_o of_o the_o late_a cannonized_a saint_n and_o why_o do_v he_o not_o speak_v of_o the_o b._n virgin_n mary_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o st._n augustine_n and_o of_o other_o ancient_a saint_n since_o he_o equal_o impugn_v the_o veneration_n of_o all_o saint_n the_o reason_n he_o add_v be_v excellent_a i_o be_o sure_a say_v he_o the_o sun_n be_v a_o certain_a monument_n of_o god_n goodness_n and_o i_o can_v be_v mistake_v therein_o but_o i_o can_v never_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o holiness_n of_o those_o person_n viz._n the_o late_a cannonized_a saint_n for_o all_o that_o i_o can_v know_v ignatius_n loyola_n be_v a_o great_a hypocrite_n but_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o the_o sun_n be_v none_o i_o know_v the_o best_a of_o man_n have_v their_o corruption_n and_o to_o what_o degree_n it_o be_v impossible_a for_o other_o to_o understand_v but_o i_o be_o certain_a the_o spot_n of_o the_o sun_n be_v no_o moral_a impurity_n nor_o displease_v to_o god_n how_o frivolous_a this_o reason_n be_v will_v clear_o appear_v by_o this_o instance_n dr._n st._n will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o some_o reverence_n respect_n esteem_v and_o veneration_n may_v be_v give_v in_o this_o life_n to_o man_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o holiness_n sanctity_n and_o honesty_n of_o life_n and_o that_o one_o may_v here_o upon_o earth_n implore_v the_o prayer_n of_o other_o man_n especial_o holy_a and_o honest_a man_n or_o invoke_v they_o to_o be_v his_o intercessor_n with_o god_n in_o his_o necessity_n which_o be_v practise_v by_o protestant_n and_o no_o more_o than_o this_o we_o ascribe_v to_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n now_o according_a to_o this_o reason_n of_o the_o dr._n to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n why_o may_v i_o not_o as_o well_o honour_n dr._n st._n be_v cat_n or_o dog_n who_o in_o the_o common_a opinion_n of_o philosopher_n as_o be_v substance_n endow_v with_o life_n be_v perfect_a than_o the_o sun_n as_o dr._n st._n himself_o or_o invoke_v they_o as_o well_o as_o he_o or_o any_o of_o the_o protestant_a bishop_n or_o minister_n i_o be_o sure_a dr._n st._n be_v cat_n and_o dog_n do_v whatever_o god_n will_v have_v they_o do_v and_o that_o they_o never_o have_v transgress_v any_o of_o his_o commandment_n and_o i_o can_v be_v mistake_v therein_o but_o i_o can_v never_o be_v certain_a that_o dr._n st._n be_v a_o honest_a man_n yea_o i_o be_o certain_a that_o he_o have_v transgress_v god_n commandment_n for_o all_o that_o i_o can_v know_v dr._n st._n be_v a_o great_a hypocrite_n and_o a_o errant_a knave_n but_o i_o be_o sure_a dr._n st._n be_v cat_n and_o dog_n be_v none_o i_o know_v that_o dr._n st._n have_v his_o corruption_n since_o the_o best_a of_o man_n have_v they_o and_o to_o what_o degree_n he_o have_v they_o be_v impossible_a for_o i_o or_o other_o to_o understand_v but_o i_o be_o certain_a that_o the_o blemish_n of_o those_o creature_n suppose_v they_o have_v they_o be_v no_o moral_a impurity_n nor_o displease_v to_o god_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o according_a to_o this_o argument_n of_o dr._n st._n it_o be_v as_o lawful_a and_o more_o laudable_a to_o reverence_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o honesty_n dr._n st.'s_n cat_n or_o dog_n &_o to_o invoke_v their_o intercession_n as_o to_o reverence_n dr._n st._n himself_o or_o to_o invoke_v his_o assistance_n by_o prayer_n and_o what_o ever_o answer_n dr._n st._n shall_v give_v to_o this_o instance_n will_v solve_v the_o objection_n he_o make_v against_o we_o for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o sun_n be_v as_o uncapable_a to_o understand_v or_o to_o be_v make_v to_o understand_v our_o address_n or_o to_o intercede_v for_o we_o or_o to_o lead_v a_o moral_a honest_a life_n as_o a_o cat_n or_o a_o dog_n but_o dr._n st._n know_v too_o well_o that_o it_o be_v not_o for_o his_o interest_n to_o consider_v the_o incoherency_n of_o his_o principle_n or_o the_o train_n of_o absurdity_n which_o common_o wait_v upon_o his_o argument_n yet_o for_o our_o present_a intent_n it_o be_v enough_o to_o show_v that_o the_o idolatry_n he_o endeavour_v to_o fasten_v upon_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o she_o allow_v of_o be_v in_o his_o persuasion_n as_o bad_a or_o worse_o than_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sun_n page_n 159._o he_o make_v a_o large_a parallel_n between_o the_o veneration_n that_o roman_a catholic_n afford_v to_o saint_n and_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n in_o sacrifice_v to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n or_o hero_n do_v the_o israelite_n say_v he_o use_v solemn_a ceremony_n of_o make_v any_o capable_a of_o divine_a worship_n so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n do_v they_o set_v up_o their_o image_n in_o public_a place_n of_o worship_n and_o then_o kneel_v down_o before_o they_o and_o invocate_v those_o represent_v by_o they_o so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n do_v they_o consecrate_v temple_n and_o erect_v altar_n to_o they_o and_o keep_v festival_n and_o burn_v incense_n before_o they_o so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n last_o do_v they_o offer_v up_o sacrifice_n in_o those_o temple_n to_o the_o honour_n of_o their_o lesser_a deity_n or_o hero_n so_o do_v the_o roman_a church_n whence_o it_o appear_v that_o dr._n st._n do_v hold_v we_o for_o as_o great_a idolater_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o honour_n we_o afford_v to_o saint_n as_o the_o heathen_n be_v in_o adore_v their_o lesser_a deity_n all_o this_o doctrine_n he_o have_v lay_v down_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o question_n pag._n 3_o 4._o where_o he_o have_v these_o word_n the_o same_o argument_n whereby_o the_o papist_n make_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o bread_n in_o the_o eucharist_n not_o to_o be_v idolatry_n will_v make_v the_o gross_a heathenish_a idolatry_n not_o to_o be_v so_o and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v thus_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n by_o image_n the_o adoration_n of_o the_o bread_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o the_o formal_a invocation_n of_o saint_n do_v require_v the_o give_v to_o the_o creature_n the_o worship_n due_a only_o to_o the_o creator_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o dr._n st._n do_v charge_v the_o roman_a
who_o can_v blame_v he_o for_o make_v our_o church_n both_o true_a and_o idolatrous_a again_o the_o dr._n answer_v clear_a himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n that_o he_o never_o affirm_v the_o roman_a church_n do_v or_o do_v teach_v in_o express_a term_n any_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n or_o that_o the_o honour_n due_a only_o to_o god_n may_v be_v give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n but_o that_o she_o only_o teach_v those_o thing_n wherein_o idolatry_n lie_v which_o be_v not_o to_o teach_v idolatry_n express_o as_o for_o instance_n she_o do_v not_o teach_v the_o veneration_n she_o exhibit_v to_o image_n to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o yet_o lawful_a for_o that_o will_v be_v to_o teach_v idolatry_n in_o express_a term_n but_o rather_o she_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a viz._n that_o the_o forementioned_a veneration_n be_v not_o idolatrous_a for_o she_o think_v that_o the_o honour_n she_o exhibit_v to_o image_n be_v not_o divine_a worship_n however_o because_o the_o dr._n will_v have_v she_o to_o be_v mistake_v in_o these_o persuasion_n he_o impeache_n she_o of_o idolatry_n now_o the_o substance_n of_o this_o answer_n come_v to_o be_v that_o although_o to_o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o that_o she_o do_v teach_v idolatry_n in_o express_a term_n be_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n yet_o there_o be_v no_o appearance_n of_o contradiction_n in_o say_v as_o he_o do_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n but_o yet_o that_o she_o do_v teach_v those_o thing_n wherein_o idolatry_n lie_v which_o be_v his_o word_n pag_n 29._o or_o that_o she_o do_v teach_v idolatry_n not_o in_o express_a term_n but_o only_o by_o consequence_n as_o he_o say_v pag._n 21._o but_o i_o leave_v to_o other_o to_o examine_v how_o this_o do_v agree_v with_o what_o dr._n st._n affirm_v in_o several_a place_n of_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o idolatry_n practise_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n endeavour_v to_o show_v that_o she_o do_v express_o act_v against_o the_o second_o commandment_n of_o god_n according_a to_o their_o account_n wherein_o be_v prohibit_v idolatry_n when_o she_o teach_v the_o veneration_n and_o worship_n of_o image_n beside_o this_o objection_n be_v cashier_v by_o what_o have_v be_v already_o discuss_v for_o since_o the_o idolatry_n dr._n st._n father_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v destructive_a to_o a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n and_o consequent_o to_o the_o very_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n as_o have_v be_v already_o demonstrate_v it_o be_v impossible_a that_o a_o church_n remain_v a_o true_a church_n shall_v teach_v such_o a_o idolatry_n either_o in_o express_a term_n or_o by_o good_a consequence_n and_o as_o the_o dr._n will_v not_o grant_v that_o to_o teach_v idolatry_n only_o by_o consequence_n teach_v those_o thing_n wherein_o it_o lie_v be_v enough_o to_o free_v the_o roman_a church_n from_o be_v real_o idolatrous_a otherwise_o by_o this_o answer_n he_o himself_o will_v discharge_v she_o from_o the_o crime_n of_o idolatry_n he_o cast_v upon_o she_o so_o neither_o can_v it_o excuse_v the_o roman_a church_n from_o be_v no_o true_a church_n the_o oppositeness_n of_o idolatry_n with_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n consist_v in_o the_o reality_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o not_o in_o the_o particular_a persuasion_n of_o such_o as_o teach_v it_o wherefore_o to_o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o that_o she_o do_v teach_v idolatry_n in_o the_o manner_n aforemention_v be_v to_o commit_v a_o palpable_a contradiction_n moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a neither_o can_v the_o dr._n question_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o gross_a sort_n of_o heathen_n do_v teach_v idolatry_n destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o in_o a_o manner_n destructive_a thereunto_o and_o yet_o they_o do_v not_o teach_v idolatry_n in_o express_a term_n but_o only_o by_o consequence_n teach_v those_o thing_n wherein_o it_o do_v lie_v for_o either_o they_o do_v affirm_v though_o by_o mistake_n that_o the_o object_n to_o which_o they_o give_v divine_a worship_n be_v not_o a_o mere_a creature_n or_o that_o the_o honour_n they_o give_v be_v not_o proper_o divine_a for_o what_o heathen_a do_v ever_o teach_v in_o express_a term_n that_o the_o honour_n due_a only_o to_o god_n may_v be_v give_v to_o a_o mere_a creature_n so_o that_o be_v this_o objection_n of_o any_o force_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a heathen_n from_o practise_v or_o teach_v any_o idolatry_n destructive_a to_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n nay_o if_o idolatry_n because_o it_o be_v teach_v not_o in_o express_a term_n but_o by_o consequence_n be_v not_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n he_o may_v also_o affirm_v that_o upon_o the_o same_o account_v it_o be_v neither_o destructive_a to_o the_o soundness_n of_o it_o and_o consequent_o the_o roman_a church_n will_v not_o be_v according_a to_o the_o dr._n be_v opinion_n not_o 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and_o because_o she_o teach_v to_o be_v true_a what_o real_o be_v a_o error_n and_o a_o error_n contrary_a to_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n therefore_o she_o be_v a_o heretical_a and_o no_o true_a church_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o shall_v one_o affirm_v that_o such_o a_o church_n be_v true_a and_o yet_o that_o she_o teach_v those_o thing_n wherein_o heresy_n and_o error_n against_o faith_n do_v lie_v he_o will_v beyond_o debate_n contradict_v himself_o and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o affirm_v that_o such_o a_o church_n be_v true_a and_o yet_o heretical_a will_v it_o be_v no_o contradiction_n to_o defend_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v true_a but_o yet_o idolatrous_a for_o certain_o idolatry_n be_v no_o less_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n than_o heresy_n wherefore_o as_o to_o kill_v a_o man_n it_o be_v enough_o for_o one_o to_o do_v that_o which_o necessary_o infer_v the_o separation_n of_o the_o soul_n from_o the_o body_n whether_o he_o do_v 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