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A02681	Fratres sobrii estote. I. Pet. 5. 8. Or, An admonition to the fryars of this Kingdome of Ireland to abandon such hereticall doctrines as they daylie publish to the corruption of our holy faith, the ruine of soules, and their owne damnation which sleepeth not, by Paul Harris priest.	Harris, Paul, 1573-1635?	1634 (1634)	STC 12812; ESTC S116531	69,749	97

reported how the same S. Francis had a revelation from heaven that the aforesaid Friar Helias should doe pennance for his sinnes and not be damned at all This shall you reade in the Chronicle of the Friar Minors tom 1. cap. 118. And such as will take paines to peruse S. Brigids revelations conserre them with our legends of Saints lives shall finde innumerable examples of like kind One Saint having a revelation directly contrary to what hath beene revealed unto another Notwithstanding that there is but one God one truth And we may be enduced or rather enforced to beleeve that these revelations visions and apparitions of S. Francis and Simon Stoc if any such were were meere satanicall illusions no divine revelations for that they promise that certitude and assurance of salvation in this life which is repugnant to sacred Writt the uniforme consent of the Primitive Fathers the uniforme consent of Generall Councells and the beliefe both of our holy Mother the Church and all her obedient children even unto these times as I have aboundantly proved in my Epistle to Pope Vrbanns and not necessary heere to be repeated againe And therefore I will conclude this first point with that of the Apostle Golat. 1. That if an Angell from heaven shall come and preach unto us contrary to what we have received Anathema sir But yet to give scope to a more full and ample discourse of this Argument let us admit for the present that S. Francis and Simon Stoc had received by divine revelation That whosoever shall dye in the habit of the one and the scapular of the other should undoubtedly be saved for it may not bee denyed but such certitude may be had by divine revelation Examples we have of the Scriptures of the two glorious Apostles S. Peter S. Paul of S. Mary Magdalen some others for the arme of our Lord is not shortned nor his power abridged Yet say I conformable to the doctrine of holy Church as afterward shall bee prooved that this can be no assurance or security unto others who are not partakers of the said visions and revelations to beleeve that doctrine because what is of divine authority unto one is but of humane and sallible authority unto another For say that Peter knoweth a thing to come by certaine divine revelation yet the same shall be to Patrick but onely a humane relation received from the lips of Peter a mortall man subject to error and mistaking to deceive and to be deceived and being but in via non in termine peccable in thought word and deed and therefore we see the Church whose wisdome is from the holy Ghost never to canonize any person though reputed never so holy while they are in the flesh and till such time as their sanctity be attested by signes and wonders from heaven As then S. Francis before his conversion was of life conversation like unto others of his rank quality not much scrupulous of the offence of God till he came unto the age of twenty five as may appeare both by the first words of his Testament Quia cùm essem in peccatis c. as also by his life written by Bonaveniure So albeit I confesse the a d and better part of his life after his conversion dedicating himselfe unto the service of God was as a threed more evenly ipun then the former yet not altogether without some knotes as may be knowne by his own confession when on a time so journing in the pallace of the Cardinall De S ta Cruce and in the night-time being beaten of the Devills he repayred in the morning to the presence of the aforesaid Cardinall to whom he related what he had endured and then added Men that know me not repute me as a Saint but behold how the devills who know me well doe handle and chastice me for my sinnes So he Chron fras minor toni I cap. 13. Out of all which I doe inferre that a vision or revclation is not therefore authenticall or to be believed because such a person who after ●is death was canonized for a Saint did in his life-time avouch the same either by word or writing because it is necessary for my p●ucent assent unto such visions or revelations that the same be canonized for supernaturall infallible truths which cannot be but by authority of holy Church which hath canonized for certaine and infallible verities no other mens workes sayings or writings then those of the Prophets and Apostles as that Angelical Doctor S. Thomas hath in these words Innititur fide nostra rev Lationi Apostolis prophetis factae qui canoric●s linos scripserunt non autem revelationi si qua fuit aliis doctoribus facta 1 2 q. 1.8 2 d. 2 dum Our faith is grounded upon revelation made unto the Apostles and Prophets who wrote the canonicall bookes not to revelation if any such was made to other Doctors For which doctrine he cites also S. Aug. in his Epistle unto S. Hierom Epist 14. in these words Solis enim scripturarum libris qui canonici appellaneny didici hune honorem deferre ●t unllum autherum corum in scribendo errasse aliquid firmissime credam Alios autem it a lego ut quantalibet fanctitato doctrinaque prepolleant non ideo verum putem quod ipsi it a senserunt vel scripserunt Onely to the books of Scripture which are called canonicall I have learned to give that honour that I most firmely believe that none of the Authors thereof have erred in writing but other writers I so read that with how great sanctity or learning so ever they doe excell I doe not therefore believe a thing to be true because they have so judged or so written So S. Aug. Now future glory in Heaven being a supernaturall object cannot by humane knowledge or morall certitude be assured unto us but either not all or by divine faith which though not cleare and evident yet excelleth in certitude and infallibility all scientificall knowledge whatsoever And this I say to answere those who happily in defence of their errors in the aforesaid revelations will say that albeit indeed they be not to be believed by a divine and a supernaturall faith yet may they be certaine unto us exáio tapite that is from some other topicall argument which in truth is as much as if they said nothing preaching an infallibility of the aforesaid visions and revelations then brought unto cheir justification they answere us with nothing but historicall legends and I pray God not rather fabulous and meere humane possibilityes When the poore soule in the meane time trusting unto habits and scapulats as Oracles of truth rockes of a sure foundation at the evening and perclose of life findes it selfe irreparably deceived in puncto descondit in infernum in a moment for misbeliefe siukes downe to hell whence neither the habit of S. Francis nor the scapular of the Carmelites nor the saturday

Parish Priests contrary to the Law of holy Church and continued practice thereof till these times But see the pollicy of this tyrant Bishop or rather Tyrones Bishop of Kildare for at Tyrones intercession was he nominated as himselfe canno deny having first written unto the Pope as is credibly reported beleeved by us that no Bish should be named by his holinesse in this Kingdome but such as by Tyrone from Flanders should be commended unto him I say this Ross Magogean titulary Bishop of Kildare in excuse of making his Friars Pastors Parish Priests contrary unto the Lawes of the Chruch tells such as expostulate the matter with him that of necessity he is inforced so to do for that out of the body of the Clergy he wants Priests of sufficiencie for those places O blessed God! having first discontented banished wrangled and clampered all Priests of worth out of his Diocesse having first procured that desolation makes afterward his own fact an excuse of his own wickednesse Shall Machiavell ever be dead so long as this Friar is alive To such miserable termes is the Clergy of this country brought That if the Pope perseveres as he hath begun to send us either Bishops made of Fryars or of the Friars creatures there is an end of the Secular Priesthood which is of Christs institution and hath continued in the Ch●rch since the Apostles times till this unhappy tyranny of the Friars hath corrupted both the doctrin and government of the Church hath turned all things topsy-turvy among us If any desire to know the names number of our present Friar Bishops of this Kingdome they be as follow Them Flemming aliàs Barnwell aliàs White Archbishop of Dublin Franciscan Boethius Igan Bishop of Elfin Franciscan Hugh Magenues Bishop of Downe Franciscan Ross Magoghagan Bishop of Kildare Dominican Patrick Cumberford Bishop of Waterford Augustin which last is the only indifferent Friar Bishop unto the Clergy of all that ever yet were sent into this Kingdome Some others we have who albeit they were elected out of the body of the Clergy yet because standing upon their own feet they were not able to reach the apple of Episcopall promotion they mounted upon the Friars shoulders by their alone meanes have obtained the same and for that cause are litle more loving unto the Clergy or lesse beloved of the Friars then the former holding it a point of gratitude the least kind of remuneration for so great a benefit to be at the beck and command of that Friar whether it be Wadding the Cordelier or any other by whose sollicitation they received their nomination unto a Bishop rick bound ever after to tread in their steps to run their courses But fure for my part I should think the same Church-pollicy which is practized in Rome in debarring Friars these 50. yeares upward from the Apostolicall Chaire might bee observed thorough the whole Church as best beseeming the Ecclesiasticall Hierarchy the government thereof I mean the Clergy to be governed by the Clergy the Friars by the Friars without making such a mixture of governments as we see at this day one Diocesse ruled by a Clergy Bishop another by a Franciscan the third by a Dominican c. which is rather to lay a corner stone of discention then any foundation of unity to plant a seminary of discord contention then a nursery of peace concord the same not only for the present but even descending unto posterity For example in this Diocesse of Dublin we have for the present Thowas Flemming Archbish a Friar by all meanes suppressing and persequuting h●s poore Clergy wearing out all the most auncient su●ficient I'riests of his Diocesse to the end he might with more facility at chieve his ends he hath Iately procured a Bull frō Rome the ground of this Bust is for that all benefices of this Kingdome for want of due collation are held to be in the lapse devolved thereby unto the gift of the Pope by which is conferred unto him the right of patronage presentation of all the Benefices Rectoryes Vicaryes Capellania's yea not them only but the collation of all Digaityes places of Channons Prebends or what else belongs unto the Cathedrall or Collegiat Churches within his Diocesse all at his disposition will command either to conferre or to be vacant as he doth the Dignityes of S. Patricks and Trinity Church for feare of creating a Chapter which one time or other might look into his game Some Parishes he conferres especially upon his white disciples in titulum others the most with amovibility ad nutum to the end they may be more serviceable unto him All to give a free scope an uncontrouleable license unto his galloping Friars to commaund all among whom there is not a Lay brother who was but yesterday an hors●-boy but will threaten the gravest Priest of his Diocesse with a removeall from his place if he distast him And verily the present government of the Clergy in this and such Diocesses as the Friar Bishops do rule makes me call to mind that tyranny of the Danes as well heere in Ireland as in England to whose violence not only the Republique in generall but every private family was obnoxious having their espialls and intelligencers in every place corner of the countrey in so much as unto the basest groome among them for feare of his displeasure the honest subject was in such thraldome as he would be glad to give him the best place at his table to feed him even ex adipe frumenti with the best morsells he had to call him at every word My Lord Dane whence it comes to passe that in these dayes we call by contraction every idle vagabond a Lordan borrowed I say from that lubber of a Dane who was appointed to domineer in every mans house Yea if my memory faile me not which is the first faculty of the mind that decayes in old-age it is written in some of our Chronicles that if an English man had been upon the midst of a bridge had seen a Dane make towards the same though a musket shot before him the Saxon would have returned back again have left the bridge unto the Dane to have passed over And even such Lordanes for all the world be our Irish Friars helping to devoure the fruits of the earth for which most of them never swe rt in any lawfull vocation absolutely commaunding the whole housholds in which they live all too little to doe them service respect honour Those that be house-keepers do more feelingly then my selfe understand the discommodities of the saucy and malapert carriage of these sturdy beggars among them It was on a time when a Friar of S. Francis Order comming to a Gentle-mans house seated within the smoak prospect of Dublin finding the gate shuts for why the Goodman of the house with all his family were set to