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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10777	Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs of Christe, D. Nicolas Rydley late Bysshoppe of London, and M. Hughe Latymer sometyme Bysshoppe of Worcester, during the tyme of their emprysonmentes. Whereunto is added. A treatise agaynst the errour of transubstantiation, made by the sayd reuerende father D. Nicolas Rydley. M.D.LVI.	Ridley, Nicholas, 1500?-1555.; Latimer, Hugh, 1485?-1555. aut; Ridley, Nicholas, 1500?-1555. Brief declaracion of the Lordes Supper. aut	1556 (1556)	STC 21048; ESTC S115941	68,037	134

studyeng thoughe mixture be best For so one shall alleuiate the tediousnesse off the other I entend not to contend moche with theÌ„ in wordes after a reasonable accowmpte off my fayth geuen for it shall be butt in vayne They will saye as their fathers saied Ioan. 19. WheÌ„ they haue no more to saie We haue a lawe aÌ„d by our lawe he owght to dye Be ye stedfast aÌ„d vnmouable saieth saincte Paule aÌ„d agayne persistito stande fast 1. Cor. 15. 2. Tim. 3. Ioan. 15. Col. 1. And how ofte is this repeted if ye abide yf ye abide c. But we shall be called obstinate sturdie ignorauÌ„te headye and what not So that a man hath nede of muche patience hauing to do with suche men But yow knowe how great a crime it is to separate your selfe from the communion or feloushippe of the churche and to make a schisme or diuision Anton. obiect 3. You haue ben reported to haue hated the secte of the Anabaptistes and alwaies to haue impugned the same More ouer this was the perniciouse erroure of Nouatus and of the heretikes called Cathari that they woulde not communicate with the churche I knowe that the vnitye of the churche is to be retained by al meanes and the same to be necessarye to saluation N. Ryd Ansvu. But I do not take the masse as it is at this daye for the communion of the churche but for a popisshe deuyse wherby bothe the commaundemente and institution of oure sauior Christe for the ofte frequeÌ„ting of the remeÌ„brance of his deathe is eluded and the people of god is miserablye deluded The secte of the Anabaptistes and the heresie of the Nouatians oughte of righte to be condemned for as muche as with oute anye iuste or necessarie cause they wickedlye separated them selfes from the communion of the congregation for they did not alledge that the sacramentes were vnduelye ministred but turninge awaie their eies from them selfes wher with accordinge to saincte Paules reule they oughte to examine them selfes 1. Cor. 11. and castinge theyr eyes euer vpon others either ministers or communicaÌ„tes with them they alwaies reproued some thinge for the which they absteined from the communion as from an vnholie thinge H. Laty. Hilarius contra Auxent I remembre that Caluine beginneth to confute the Interim after this sorte withe this sayeng of Hilarie The name of peace is beautifull and the opinion of vnitee is fayre but who doubteth that to be the true and onlye peace of the churche whiche is Christes I woulde you hadde that litle boke there shulde you see how muche is to be geueÌ„ to vnitie Rom. 15. S. Paule when he requireth vnitee he ioyneth streyght withall Secundum Iesum Christum accordyng to Iesus Christe no further Diotrephes now of late dyd euer harpe apon vnitye vnitye Yea Syr quod I but in veritee not in poperye Better is a diuersitee then an vnitye in poperye I hadde nothinge agayne but scornefull gieres with commaundement to the Tower But admitte there be in the masse that perauenture mighte be amended or at leaste made better Anton. obiect 4. yea seing you wil haue it so admitte ther be a faulte yf yow do not consente therto why do you troble your selfe in vaine Cypr. l. â— ep 2. Au. ep 152. doo not you knowe bothe by Cyprian and Augustine that communion of sacramentes dothe not defile a man but consente of dedes Yf it wer anye one trifling ceremonie N. Ryd Ansvuer or yf it wer some one thinge of it selfe indiffereÌ„te althoughe I woulde wishe nothinge shulde be done in the churche whiche dothe not edifie the same yet for the continuance of the commen quietnes I coulde be contente to beare it But for asmuch as thinges done in the masse tende openlye to the ouerthrowe of Christes institution I iudge that by no meanes either in worde or dede I oughte to consente vnto it As for that whiche is obiected oute of the fathers I acknowledge it to be wel spokeÌ„ if it be well vnderstanded But it is mente of them whiche suppose they are defiled yf anie secret vice be either in the ministers or in them that communicate with them And is not mente of them whiche doo abhorre superstition and wicked traditioÌ„s of men and will not suffer the same to be thruste up on them selfes or vpon the churche in steade of goddes worde and the trewethe of the gospel The verye maye bones of the masse are all to gither H. Laty. detestable and therfore by no meanes to be borne withal so that of necessitye the mendinge of it is to abolisshe it for euer For yf yow take awaie oblation and adoration which do hange vpon consecratioÌ„ and transubstantiacion the most papistes of them all will not sett a button by the masse as a thinge which they esteame not but for the gaine that foloweth theron For yf the Englyshe communion whiche of late was vsed wer as gainefull to them as the masse hathe ben heretofore they woulde striue no more for their masse From thens groweth the griefe Anton. obiect 5. Consider into what daungers you caste your selfe yf you forsake the Churche and you can not but forsake it if you refuse to goo to Masse For the Masse is the sacrament off vnytie withowte the Arke ther is no saluation The Churche is the Arke and Peters shyppe Ye knowe thys saying well in oughe Aug. li. 4. de Sym. c. 10. In ep post col contra Donat. He shall not haue godde to be his father which acknowlegeth not the Churche to be his mother More ouer withoute the Church sayeth S. Augustine be the lyfe neuer so well spente it shal not enheritte the kyngdome of heauen The holie Catholique or vniuersalle Churche which is the communion of sayntes N. Ryd Ansvuer 1. Tim. 3. Apoc. 21. Ephes. 1. the howse of godde the Citee of godde the spowse of Christe the bodie of Christe the pyller and staye off the truth This Church I beleue accordinge to the Creede Thys Church I doo reuerence and honour in the Lorde But the rewle off this church is the worde off godde accordyng to which rewle we goo forward vnto lyffe And as many as walke accordyng to thys rewle I saye with S. Paule peace be apon them Gala. 6. and apon Israel which perteyneth vnto godde The guyde off this Churche is the holie ghooste The markes wherby this Churche is knowen vnto me in this darke worlde Phil. 2. and in the myddes of this Crooked and frowarde generatioÌ„ are these The syncere preachinge of goddes worde The due administration off the sacramentes Charitee and faythfull obseruynge off Ecclesiasticall discipline accordyng to the worde off godde And that Church or congregation which is garnisshed with these markes is in verie dede that heauenly Hierusalem which consisteth of those Apoc. 21. Ioan. 3. Gala. 4. that be borne frome aboue Thys is the mother of

bee but in this respecte onely that they bee deuised by menne are not able to bringe any thing to perfection but are enforced of necessitie to suffre many things out of sqware and are coÌ„pelled somtime to wynke at the worste thinges seinge they knowe not howe to maintaine the common peace and quiet otherwise Gal. 3. 1. Cor. 3. Rom. 3. Psa. 116. Lib. 1. retr cap. 10. they do ordaine that the more part shall take place Yow know what these kindes of speaches mean I speke after the maner of men yee walke after the maner of men all men are liers And that of S Augustine if ye liue after mannes reason ye do not liue after the will of God Yf ye saie the councels haue sometimes erred Anton. obiect 10. or maie erre howe then shoulde we beleue the catholique Churche For the councels are gathered by the authoritie of the catholique churche From maie bee to bee in deede N. Rid. ansvv is no good argument but from being to maie bee no man doubteth but it is a most sure argument But now that councels haue sometime erred it is manifeste Howe manie councels were there in the east part of the worlde Socr. eccle hist. l. 2. which condemned the Nicene counceil and al those which wold not forsake the same thei called by a sclaÌ„derouse name as thei thought HomousiaÌ„s Was not Athanasius Chrisostome Cyrille Eustachius men verie well learned and of godly life Socr. eccl H. l. 1. c. 24.32 Theod. l. 5. cap. 34. ObiectioÌ„ banished and coÌ„deÌ„ned as famouse heritiques aÌ„d that by wicked couÌ„celles Howe many thinges are there in the Canons and constitutions of the counselles whiche the papistes them selues do much mislike But here paraduenture one man will saie vnto me We will graunt you this in prouincial councelles or councelles of some one nacion that they maie sometimes erre Forasmuche as they do not represente the vniuersall churche but it is not to be beleued that the general and full councelles haue erred at any time Here if I hadde my bookes of the counselles or rather such notes as I haue gathered out of those bookes I coulde bring somthiÌ„g which should serue for this purpose But now seing I haue them not Ansvuer I wil recite one place onely out of S. Austen which in my iudgdment maie suffise in this matter in steade of many Who knoweth not saieth he that the holie scripture is so set before vs l. 2. de bap cont don cap. 3. that it is not lawefull to doubte of it and that the letters of Bishops maye be reproued by other wiser menÌ„es wordes aÌ„d by couÌ„celles and that the couÌ„sels theÌ„selues which are gathered by prouiÌ„ces aÌ„d couÌ„tries dooe geue place to the authoritie of the general aÌ„d ful couÌ„celles aÌ„d that the former general couÌ„cels are ameÌ„ded by the latter wheÌ„ as by some experience of things either that which was shut vp is opened or that whiche was hid is knowen Thus muche of Augustine But I wyl plead with our Autoniane vpoÌ„ matter confessed â–ª Here with vs when as papisttie reagned I pray you howe doth that booke whiche was called the Bishoppes booke made in the time of King Henry the eighte whereof the Bishoppe of Winchester is thought to be either the first father The Bisschops booke or chiefe gatherer howe doeth it I saie sharpely reproue the florentine counceile in which was decreed the supremacie of the Bishoppe of Rome and that with the consente of the Emperoure of constantinople and of the Grecians So that in those daies oure learned aunciente fathers and Bisshoppes of Englande did not sticke to affirme that a generall counceile mighte erre But me thinketh I heare another manne despising all that I haue broughte furthe and saiynge These whiche you haue called counceiles are not worthy to be called counceiles but rather assembles and coÌ„ueÌ„ticles of heritiques I pray you syr why do you iudge them worthie of so slanderouse a name Because sayth he they decreed thinges heretical contrarie to true godlines and sounde doctrine and against the faith of christen religion The cause is waightie for the which thei ought of right so to be caled But if it be so that all counceiles oughte to be dispised whiche decree any thinge contrarie to sounde doctrine and the trew worde whiche is according to godlines forasmuche as the masse 1. Tim. 6. suche as we haue had here of late is openly against the worde of Godde forsothe it must folow of necessitie that al suche councels as haue approued such masses oughte of righte to be fledde and despised as conuenticles and assembles of menne that straie from the truth The B. of Romes authoritee Another man alledgeth vnto me the authoritie of the Bisshop of Rome withoute whiche neither can the counsels saith he be lawefully gathered neither beinge gathered determine any thing concerning religioÌ„ But this obiection is only grounded vpon the ambitoiuse and shamelesse maintenaunce of the Romishe tyraÌ„ny and vsurped dominion ouer the cleargie England abiured the popes supremacie whiche tyraÌ„nie we Englisshe men longe ago by the consent of the whole Realme haue expulsed and abiured And howe rightlie we haue done it a litle booke set furth de vtraque potestate that is of booeth the powers doeth clerelye shewe I graunt that the Romishe ambition hath gone aboute to chalenge to it selfe and to vsurpe suche a priueledge of olde time CoÌ„c Carthag 3. But the counsell of Carthage in the yeare of our Lorde 457. did openly withstande it and also the counseil at Milcuyte in the whiche S. Augustin was present Can. 22. did prohibite anie appellations to be made to Bisshoppes beyond the sea S. Augustine saieth the good men are not to be forsaken for the euell Anton. obiect 11. Ep. 48. but the euell are to bee borne withal for the good Ye will not saie I trowe that in our congregations all be euell N. Ryd Ansvuer I speake nothing of the goodnesse or euelnesse of your congregacions but I fighte in Chrstes quarell againste the masse whiche doth vtterlye take awaie and ouerthrowe the ordinance of Christ. Let that be taken quite away and then the particion of the walle that made the striefe shal be brokeÌ„ doune Nowe to the place of S. Austine for bearing with the euill for the goods sake there ought to be added other woordes whiche the same writer hath expressedly in other places That is Aug. l. 3. cont literas parm cap. 2.3 if those euell men do caste abroad no seedes of false doctrine nor lead other to destruction by their example Yt is perilouse to atempt any newe thinge in the church which lacketh example of good men Anton. obiect 12. How muche more perilouse is it to commit any act vnto the which thexample of the prophets of Christ and of thapostles are contrary But vnto this your fact in abstaining from the church by reason of the masse the

of good meÌ„ which is the churche in deed or for the multitude of euell men whiche is the malignante churche and synagoge of Sathan Apo. 2. And is also the thirde takinge of the churche of the which although there be seldomer mentioÌ„ in the scriptures in that signification yet in the worlde euen in the most famouse assembles of christendome this churche hath borne the greatest swynge This distinction presupposed of the three sortes of churches it is an easye matter by a figure called Synecdoche to geue to the mingled and vniuersall churche that which canne not truelye be vnderstanded but onely of th one parte therof But if any manne will stiflye affirme that vniuersalitie dooth so pertaine vnto the churche that whatsoeuer Christe hath promised to the church it muste needes be vnderstanded of that I woulde gladly knowe of the same man wher that vniuersalle churche was in the tymes of the patriarches and pophetes Exod. 17. 3. Reg. 19. Hiere 6. of Noe Abraham and Moses at such tyme as the people wold haue stoned hym of Helias of Hieremie in the tymes of Christe and the dispersion of the Apostles in the time of Arius when Constantius was Emperour Theo. ecc his l. 2. c. 15 61. and Felix bisshoppe of Rome succeded Liberius It is worthie to be noted that Lira writeth apon Mathew Lyra in Matt. The churche sayeth he doth not stande in men by reason off theyr power or dignitee whether it be Ecclesiasticall or seculer for many princes aÌ„d popes and other inferiours haue ben fownde to haue fallen awaye frome godde Therfore the churche consisteth in those persones in whome is true knowlege and confession of the fayth and off the Truthe Euell men as it is in a glose of the Decrees are in the churche in name and not in dede De poenit dist 1. c. ecclesia Lib. 1. c. 33. And S. Augustine contra CrescomuÌ„ gramÌ„aticuÌ„ sayeth Who so euer is afrayed to be deceiued by the darkenesse off this qwestioÌ„ let hym aske cownsell at the same church of it which churche the scripture doth poynte oute withoute any doubtefulnesse All my notes which I haue written and gathered owte of such authors as I haue redde in this matter and suche like are comÌ„e into the haÌ„des of such as will not let me haue the leaste of all my writteÌ„ bookes wherin I am enforced to complayne of them vnto godde for they spoile me of all my labours which I haue takeÌ„ in my studye these many yeares My memorie was neuer goode for helpe wheroff I haue vsed for the moste parte to gather owte notes of my readinge and so to place theÌ„ that therby I might haue hadde the vse of them when the tyme required But who knoweth whether this be goddes will that I shulde be thus ordred aÌ„d spoiled of the poore learninge I hadde as me thoughte in stoore to thinteÌ„te that I now destitute of that shuld frome heÌ„ceforth learne onely to knowe with Paule 1. Cor. 2. Christe and hym crucifyed The Lorde grauÌ„te me herin to be a goode yonge scoler and to learne this lesson so wel that neither deathe nor liffe wealth nor woo c. make me euer to forgette that AmeÌ„ AmeÌ„ I haue no more to saye in this matter for you your selfe haue sayd all that is to be sayed H. Laty. That same vehemente sayeng of S. Augustine I wolde not beleue the gospelle c. was wonte to troble manie men as I remember I haue redde it well qualiffied off Philippe Melanchton but my memorie is alltogether slypperie This it is in effecte The churche is not a iudge Mel. de eccles but a witnesse Ther wer in his tyme that lyghtly estemed the testimony of the churche and the owtwarde ministerie of preachynge and reiected the owteward worde it selfe stickinge only to theyr inwarde reuelations Such rasshe contempte of the worde prouoked and droue S. Augustine into that excessiue vehemence In the which after the bare sownd of the wordes he might seeme to such as doo not attaine vnto his meanynge that he preferred the churche farre before the gospell and that the Churche hath a free Authoritee ouer the same but that godly man neuer thoughte so It wer a saynge worthy to be broughte forthe agaynst the Anabaptistes which thinke the open ministerie to be a thinge not necessarie if they anie thinge estemed such testimonies I wolde not sticke to affirme that the moore parte of the greate howse that is to saye of the hoole vniuersall churche maye easely erre And agayne I wolde not sticke to affirme that it is one thinge to be gathered together in the name off Christe and another thinge to comme together with a Masse off tholye ghooste goynge before For in the firste Christe ruleth in the latter the deuel beareth the swinge and how then can anie thinge be goode that they goo abowte frome thys latter shall our Sixe Articles comme forth agayne into the lyghte they them selfes being verie darkenesse But it is demaunded A questioÌ„ whether the fownder or better parte of the catholyque church may be seene of men or no S. Paule sayeth Ansvuer The Lorde knoweth them that are his What maner of speaking is this in commeÌ„dation of the lorde if we knowe as well as he who are his Well thus is the texte The Sure fowndation of godde standeth still and hath this seale the Lorde knoweth them that are hys and let euerie man that nameth the name of Christe departe frome iniquite Now how many are ther of the hoole Catholique church of England which departe from iniquite How many of the noble men how many of the bysshops or cleargie how many of the ryche men or merchauntes how many of the qwenes cownsellers yea how many of the hoole realme In how smalle rowme then I praye you is the true church within the realme of Englande and wher is it and in what state I hadde a coÌ„ceipte of myne owne well grownded as they saye when I began but now it is fallen by the waye Anton. obiect 8. Matt. 18. Generall CouÌ„sels represent the vniuersall church aÌ„d haue this promesse of Christe wher two or thre be gathered together in my name ther am I in the myddes of theÌ„ If Christe will be present with ij or iij. then moche more wher ther is so great a multitude c. But in generall counsels Masse hath ben approued and vsed Therfore c. Off the vniuersall church which is mingled of goode N. Ryd and badde thus I thinke WheÌ„soeuer they which be chieffe in it which rule and gouerne the same and to whome the reaste of the hoole mysticall bodye of Christe doth obey are the lyuely members of Christe and walke after the guydinge and rule of his worde and goo before the flocke towardes euerlasting lyffe theÌ„ vndoubtedly Cownsels gathered together of suche guydes and Pastours of the ChristiaÌ„e flocke doo in dede represeÌ„te the vniuersall

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