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not_o the_o supply_n of_o many_o priest_n or_o pastoral_a elder_n they_o be_v content_v only_o with_o a_o bishop_n until_o they_o may_v have_v complete_a number_n of_o such_o elder_n over_o who_o the_o bishop_n carry_v his_o superior_a hand_n of_o authority_n final_o epiphanius_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o dream_v of_o this_o elder_a to_o be_v there_o a_o ordinary_a doctor_n since_o presbyter_n with_o he_o be_v but_o a_o inferior_a pastor_n what_o chamaeleon_n with_o changeable_a colour_n be_v our_o demonstrator_n a_o elder_a in_o this_o new_a tetrarchie_n sometime_o be_v a_o parish_n bishop_n elsewhere_o a_o alderman_n govern_v his_o ward_n other_o time_n a_o grave_n and_o profound_a doctor_n all_o which_o to_o swear_v with_o they_o epiphanius_n must_v be_v force_v the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 10._o demonstr_n 2._o conc._n carth._n 1_o tom._n ca._n 10._o if_o a_o bishop_n run_v into_o slander_n and_o many_o bishop_n can_v sudden_o be_v gather_v the_o cause_n must_v be_v hear_v of_o 12._o bishop_n you_o may_v be_v ashamed_a to_o allege_v that_o council_n to_o confirm_v your_o parish_n bishop_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n which_o distinct_o set_v down_o
have_v describe_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o ergo_fw-la there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d any_o colourable_a description_n of_o elder_n in_o these_o word_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o place_n give_v commendation_n and_o great_a maintenance_n to_o all_o pastoral_a elder_n that_o govern_v their_o flock_n well_o but_o honourable_a commendation_n of_o those_o who_o with_o earnestness_n labour_n in_o the_o word_n so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v your_o elder_n have_v not_o any_o maintenance_n of_o your_o church_n but_o live_v of_o their_o craft_n and_o trade_n and_o therefore_o your_o can_v be_v there_o mean_v which_o be_v speak_v special_o to_o establish_v large_a maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n towards_o the_o elder_n there_o understand_v the_o 5._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n there_o be_v no_o church_n which_o can_v stand_v without_o their_o eldership_n or_o council_n ep_v demonstration_n ign._n ad_fw-la tral_n ep_v the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n be_v a_o senate_n or_o fellowship_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o there_o be_v no_o congregation_n holy_a or_o sacred_a nor_o synod_n of_o saint_n and_o so_o say_v we_o but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a distance_n from_o your_o laical_a eldership_n this_o be_v our_o holy_a and_o sacred_a convocation_n or_o chapterhouse_n or_o whatsoever_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n it_o appear_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o ignatius_n that_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o do_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n ergo_fw-la he_o mean_v not_o of_o you_o these_o who_o he_o mean_v he_o say_v be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o hitherto_o i_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o of_o you_o challenge_v for_o your_o elder_n that_o be_v lay_v man_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n bape_n demonstration_n tertul._n de_fw-fr bape_n it_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o baptise_v and_o to_o the_o elder_a and_o deacon_n upon_o the_o bishop_n licence_n i_o will_v to_o god_n you_o will_v as_o well_o do_v after_o this_o golden_a sentence_n of_o tertull._n as_o you_o can_v memorative_o recite_v the_o same_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o sense_n and_o sentence_n make_v all_o for_o us._n dandi_fw-la habet_fw-la ius_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la episcopus_fw-la dehinc_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la authoritate_fw-la propter_fw-la eeclesiae_fw-la honorem_fw-la quo_fw-la saluo_fw-la salua_fw-la pax_fw-la est_fw-la as_o the_o bishop_n be_v a_o superior_a minister_n or_o priest_n so_o presbyter_n a_o inferior_a minister_n or_o priest_n for_o your_o elder_n you_o may_v go_v seek_v for_o you_o permit_v neither_o your_o elder_n nor_o deacon_n to_o baptize_v the_o 7._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n lucife_n demonstra_fw-la jeron_n con_fw-mi lucife_n neither_o elder_a nor_o deacon_n have_v right_a but_o upon_o commandment_n of_o the_o bishop_n so_o much_o as_o to_o baptize_v the_o word_n ind_n venit_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la chrismate_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la iussione_n neque_fw-la presbyter_n neque_fw-la diaconus_fw-la ius_fw-la habeant_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n pastoral_a elder_n or_o priest_n the_o word_n immediate_o antecedent_n speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o chief_a priest_n who_o do_v authorise_v other_o priest_n ut_fw-la enim_fw-la accepit_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o dare_v potest_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o chrism_n aswell_o as_o of_o the_o bishop_n licence_n allude_v to_o a_o particular_a custom_n this_o can_v serve_v your_o turn_n for_o you_o hold_v that_o no_o bishop_n may_v debar_v you_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v or_o use_v your_o ministry_n &_o your_o elder_n and_o deacons_n may_v not_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n though_o they_o be_v licence_v as_o yourselves_o think_v the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n elder_n fall_v away_o upon_o the_o ambition_n of_o the_o teacher_n 5._o demonstra_fw-la amb._n 1._o tim._n 5._o ambrose_n say_v synagoga_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la seniores_fw-la habuit_fw-la tolerable_a remonstrance_n ambrose_n say_v that_o state_n of_o the_o church_n for_o all_o that_o be_v tolerable_a both_o the_o synagogue_n and_o afterward_o the_o church_n have_v elder_n or_o senior_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v the_o preeminence_n in_o the_o church_n but_o no_o such_o elder_n as_o you_o do_v platform_n for_o these_o give_v but_o counsel_n you_o do_v absolute_o govern_v ordain_v censure_n and_o all_o thing_n save_v preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n august_n demonstra_fw-la possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la august_n valerius_n the_o bishop_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o apostolical_a custom_n in_o appoint_v augustine_n to_o preach_v be_v a_o elder_a the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n contrausum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la aphricanarum_fw-la against_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o aphrican_a church_n not_o of_o the_o oriental_a church_n where_o the_o use_n be_v so_o a_o custom_n particular_a mislike_v also_o by_o many_o of_o the_o father_n you_o will_v make_v apostolical_a and_o general_a the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n after_o arrius_n be_v convict_v of_o heresy_n 22._o demonstrat_n socr._n li._n 5._o ca._n 22._o elder_n may_v not_o preach_v it_o be_v so_o decree_v caluins_n quotation_n be_v lib._n 9_o socrat._n tripartitae_fw-la historiae_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n alexandria_n tantùm_fw-la institutum_fw-la fuit_fw-la whence_o you_o borrow_v this_o only_o at_o alexandria_n this_o be_v ordain_v because_o arrius_n have_v trouble_v the_o church_n there_o be_v not_o this_o curtal_n of_o place_n a_o evident_a sign_n of_o the_o evil_a conscience_n you_o have_v if_o you_o know_v it_o or_o of_o ignorance_n join_v with_o boldness_n if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o and_o yet_o allege_v it_o the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 1._o demonstrat_n bucer_n de_fw-fr reg_fw-la chri._n lib._n 1._o the_o number_n of_o elder_n of_o every_o church_n must_v be_v increase_v according_a to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n bucer_n by_o the_o word_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o speak_v of_o curatorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o seniorum_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o be_v pastoral_a elder_n as_o the_o marginal_a note_n understand_v the_o minister_n ministros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sarcire_fw-la oportere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la fuerit_fw-la neglectum_fw-la the_o 12._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n martyr_n 12._o rom._n lament_v that_o they_o be_v fall_v out_o of_o the_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n that_o the_o name_n scant_o remain_v martyr_n cit_v s._n ambrose_n complaint_n of_o the_o want_n or_o defect_n of_o certain_a elder_n for_o advice_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n who_o be_v for_o a_o time_n in_o some_o church_n the_o magistrate_n be_v unchristian_a but_o you_o find_v not_o that_o they_o be_v call_v presbyteri_fw-la as_o signify_v a_o office_n which_o title_n you_o give_v to_o you_o and_o the_o place_n where_o presbyteri_fw-la be_v name_v you_o apply_v to_o they_o the_o 13._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n certain_a of_o the_o people_n be_v join_v with_o the_o pastor_n in_o church-government_n 1._o demonstration_n idem_fw-la 12._o co._n 1._o even_o so_o at_o this_o day_n remonstran_n remonstran_n in_o every_o parish_n be_v the_o like_a assistant_n to_o gather_v and_o employ_v the_o alm_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o other_o provision_n the_o puritan_n know_v not_o their_o own_o church_n or_o common_a wealth_n and_o yet_o the_o meaning_n be_v but_o of_o church_n in_o great_a city_n and_o cathedral_n the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 8._o demostran_n caluin_n instit_fw-la li._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 8._o there_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o necessary_a demonstration_n to_o prove_v it_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n he_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v jurisdiction_n or_o aught_o to_o have_v of_o censure_n of_o ordination_n of_o law_n make_v and_o all_o other_o government_n or_o that_o they_o be_v lay_v man_n and_o have_v no_o maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n or_o that_o they_o be_v annual_a or_o biennall_a officer_n as_o the_o consistorial_o do_v now_o preach_v the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n d._n whitgift_n pag._n 638._o confess_v there_o be_v elder_n demonstr_n demonstr_n some_o be_v senior_n as_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o church_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o a_o stay_n &_o good_a advice_n in_o the_o church_n but_o none_o of_o this_o medley_n of_o perpetuity_n and_o with_o such_o government_n and_o authority_n as_o be_v now_o plait_a the_o 16_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n if_o the_o platform_n to_o timothy_n be_v for_o all_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n then_o must_v elder_n be_v in_o al._n 1._o timoth._n 6.14_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o this_o be_v
answer_v before_o cap._n 1._o not_o to_o concern_v any_o policy_n of_o elder_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n but_o to_o keep_v the_o general_a commandment_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n they_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o the_o commandment_n to_o drink_v no_o water_n be_v mean_v by_o that_o place_n the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v there_o wary_o use_v the_o singular_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o now_o you_o will_v make_v to_o pertain_v to_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o every_o thing_n contain_v in_o that_o epistle_n if_o it_o do_v so_o yet_o can_v it_o not_o help_v you_o for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o commandment_n for_o any_o such_o elder_n in_o that_o whole_a epistle_n no_o nor_o any_o mention_n by_o the_o way_n of_o they_o the_o 17._o demonstration_n that_o which_o be_v in_o every_o minister_n commission_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o the_o ordination_n and_o practice_n of_o this_o office_n mat._n 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do_v plunge_v you_o in_o this_o turkish_a error_n the_o 7._o demonstration_n if_o the_o whole_a government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o particular_a office_n demonstra_fw-la demonstra_fw-la and_o in_o the_o whole_a eldership_n be_v of_o great_a weight_n then_o may_v not_o a_o church_n officer_n intermeddle_v in_o any_o other_o call_v but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o if_o you_o mean_v your_o imaginable_a eldership_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n and_o office_n of_o your_o own_o creation_n upon_o your_o own_o surmise_n you_o may_v conclude_v what_o you_o listen_v if_o you_o mean_v pastoral_a eldership_n and_o our_o rightful_a officer_n the_o sequel_n of_o the_o antecedent_n may_v just_o be_v deny_v for_o if_o the_o church-government_n be_v never_o so_o weighty_a yet_o it_o be_v not_o diminish_v by_o lay_v on_o the_o commission_n of_o some_o civil_a authority_n derive_v especial_o from_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o prince_n let_v my_o reason_n march_v upon_o you_o 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and_o put_v off_o the_o same_o sith_o saint_n paul_n be_v careful_a for_o collection_n and_o distribution_n of_o alm_n 1._o cor._n 16._o cap._n ergo_fw-la a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v have_v in_o remissis_fw-la gradibus_fw-la both_o authority_n in_o a_o christian_a common_a wealth_n which_o neither_o be_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v seclude_v from_o the_o church_n go_v and_o reconcile_v yourself_o with_o your_o brother_n that_o write_v so_o absurd_o and_o confuse_o the_o politia_n civili_fw-la &_o ecclesiastica_fw-la for_o he_o be_v direct_o against_o you_o herein_o the_o 9_o demonstration_n that_o which_o be_v intolerable_a in_o the_o papist_n in_o we_o be_v unlawful_a demonstrat_n demonstrat_n to_o bear_v both_o sword_n be_v intolerable_a in_o they_o ergo_fw-la in_o us._n to_o the_o minor_n to_o bear_v both_o sword_n for_o the_o q._n or_o prince_n that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n to_o receive_v as_o well_o temporal_a as_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n from_o and_o for_o god_n and_o the_o prince_n be_v not_o intolerable_a neither_o repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n to_o usurp_v christ_n office_n or_o to_o usurp_v
supreme_a civil_a power_n jure_fw-la divino_fw-la as_o certain_a bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v do_v and_o claim_v or_o to_o place_n themselves_o in_o prince_n throne_n that_o be_v unlawful_a you_o can_v never_o show_v any_o such_o resemblance_n betwixt_o a_o bishop_n be_v a_o justice_n of_o peace_n or_o counsellor_n and_o the_o pope_n usurp_a authority_n claim_v as_o due_a unto_o he_o the_o 10._o demonstration_n if_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o ecclesiastical_a man_n to_o exercise_v the_o office_n of_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n then_o è_fw-la contra_fw-la for_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o exercise_v the_o office_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n but_o the_o late_a be_v unlawful_a ergo_fw-la the_o former_a the_o one_o be_v not_o as_o lawful_a as_o the_o other_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n though_o upon_o a_o lawful_a call_n i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v not_o exercise_v etc._n etc._n but_o where_o the_o example_n of_o the_o 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person_n for_o that_o be_v but_o a_o accessory_a thing_n to_o the_o principal_a office_n which_o he_o bear_v but_o a_o civil_a man_n may_v be_v a_o elder_a that_o be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n and_o the_o most_o honourable_a may_v not_o refuse_v without_o disdain_n of_o god_n as_o you_o say_v ergo_fw-la the_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v bear_v the_o office_n of_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n the_o 11._o demonstration_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n they_o may_v not_o entangle_v themselves_o with_o worldly_a affair_n 80._o can._n aposto_o c._n 80._o but_o ecclesiastical_a he_o must_v commodum_fw-la se_fw-la exhibere_fw-la usibus_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n so_o that_o he_o may_v best_o serve_v for_o the_o use_n and_o service_n of_o the_o church_n or_o so_o that_o one_o be_v not_o a_o impediment_n to_o another_o the_o 12._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n none_o of_o the_o clergy_n shall_v receive_v charge_n of_o those_o who_o be_v under_o age_n 7._o conc._n chalcedon_n ca._n 3._o &_o 7._o or_o be_v steward_n to_o nobleman_n or_o receive_v any_o secular_a honour_n that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n none_o of_o the_o clergy_n shall_v take_v the_o tutorship_n of_o any_o or_o make_v a_o confusion_n of_o calling_n and_o function_n otherwise_o the_o canon_n carry_v no_o sense_n the_o 13._o demonstration_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n or_o allegation_n the_o bishop_n shall_v only_o attend_v to_o prayer_n 20._o 4_o conc._n carth._n ca._n 20._o and_o preach_v and_o read_v the_o word_n be_v episcopus_fw-la nullam_fw-la rei_fw-la familiaris_fw-la curam_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la revocet_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n or_o he_o shall_v be_v so_o employ_v unless_o upon_o lawful_a command_n and_o calling_n his_o household_n care_n may_v not_o make_v he_o forget_v his_o charge_n yet_o he_o must_v have_v care_n thereof_o &_o bene_fw-la praeesse_fw-la propriae_fw-la domui_fw-la as_o s._n paul_n teach_v but_o do_v you_o think_v this_o canon_n bar_v you_o from_o provide_v for_o your_o household_n affair_n or_o to_o be_v master_n in_o your_o own_o house_n the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n caluin_n institut_fw-la lib_n 4._o cap._n 11._o sect_n 9_o bring_v diverse_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o bishop_n may_v neither_o take_v nor_o usurp_v any_o civil_a office_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n caluin_n bring_v they_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n but_o you_o can_v not_o bring_v forth_o the_o reason_n but_o like_o god_n mercury_n in_o the_o high_a way_n point_n which_o way_n they_o go_v but_o utter_v nothing_o there_o be_v never_o a_o one_o of_o his_o reason_n concludent_fw-la to_o prove_v it_o simple_o unlawful_a but_o by_o way_n of_o that_o which_o may_v happen_v by_o it_o the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n beza_n confess_v cap._n 5._o sect._n 32._o &_o 42._o show_v the_o distinguishment_n of_o office_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o how_o the_o father_n be_v deal_v in_o thing_n of_o this_o life_n and_o how_o the_o apostle_n punishment_n be_v extraordinary_a ergo_fw-la be_v not_o so_o clear_a on_o your_o side_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o if_o the_o apostle_n censure_n be_v extraordinary_a how_o dare_v you_o draw_v some_o of_o they_o into_o consequence_n if_o give_v of_o advice_n in_o all_o matter_n of_o war_n and_o peace_n and_o in_o determination_n judicial_a be_v matter_n of_o this_o life_n than_o beza_n himself_o use_v civil_a authority_n as_o much_o as_o any_o one_o ecclesiastical_a man_n in_o any_o reform_a church_n in_o europe_n the_o 16._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n when_o both_o office_n meet_v in_o one_o the_o one_o hinder_v the_o other_o râ—_n martyr_n 13._o râ—_n that_o be_v when_o the_o civil_a power_n be_v excessive_a or_o illimitable_a remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o same_o martyr_n out_o of_o chrysostome_n say_v the_o gospel_n be_v give_v to_o establish_v the_o policy_n and_o government_n of_o 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my_o spirit_n with_o the_o power_n etc._n etc._n argue_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o people_n a_o full_a congregation_n to_o denounce_v a_o excommunication_n not_o the_o right_a or_o interest_n to_o excommunicate_v in_o all_o as_o for_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o people_n it_o be_v require_v now_o at_o denunciation_n but_o what_o be_v all_o the_o people_n here_o of_o the_o presbytery_n or_o have_v they_o none_o such_o for_o here_o all_o be_v mention_v to_o who_o he_o write_v how_o do_v this_o prove_v the_o eldership_n to_o have_v such_o power_n or_o to_o be_v necessary_a in_o every_o church_n if_o they_o have_v none_o eldership_n the_o 3._o demonstration_n that_o which_o have_v need_n of_o great_a advice_n and_o authority_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n but_o so_o be_v excommunication_n ergo._n to_o the_o mayor_n many_o instance_n may_v be_v frame_v to_o this_o preach_v of_o the_o gospel_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n prophesy_v 1._o corinth_n 14._o ministration_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n supreme_a authority_n and_o judgement_n of_o a_o king_n and_o many_o other_o matter_n of_o great_a importance_n can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o one_o man_n at_o one_o time_n to_o the_o minor_n excommunication_n be_v not_o great_a than_o absolution_n which_o be_v also_o to_o be_v do_v by_o one_o man_n to_o save_v a_o soul_n be_v great_a than_o to_o destroy_v a_o soul_n and_o yet_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o peter_n be_v one_o man_n be_v add_v unto_o the_o church_n three_o thousand_o soul_n the_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n be_v but_o one_o man_n work_n &_o the_o great_a work_n you_o have_v no_o skill_n of_o the_o old_a rule_n nullum_fw-la proprium_fw-la datur_fw-la in_o gradu_fw-la superlativo_fw-la and_o may_v not_o one_o man_n advice_n direct_v by_o law_n topic._n 5._o topic._n be_v more_o sound_n than_o a_o hundred_o run_v on_o head_n and_o but_o otherwise_o unlearned_a the_o 4._o demonstration_n they_o must_v excommunicate_v who_o be_v to_o deal_v in_o other_o part_n of_o discipline_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n but_o the_o other_o be_v not_o exercise_v by_o one_o ergo_fw-la neither_o this_o this_o be_v obscurum_fw-la per_fw-la obscurius_fw-la or_o to_o beg_v that_o which_o be_v in_o question_n still_o this_o deface_v themselves_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o deacon_n deal_v in_o other_o part_n of_o their_o discipline_n and_o yet_o be_v discipliner_n be_v none_o of_o the_o eldership_n and_o i_o never_o hear_v afore_o they_o may_v excommunicate_v cathechize_v preach_v teach_v public_a pray_v baptise_v and_o celebrate_v the_o supper_n blessing_n of_o marriage_n etc._n etc._n be_v part_n of_o the_o discipline_n yet_o exercise_v by_o the_o doctor_n alone_o or_o pastor_n alone_o to_o the_o minor_n there_o be_v none_o of_o these_o office_n which_o be_v mainteinable_a in_o our_o church_n but_o may_v be_v execute_v by_o one_o if_o it_o shall_v seem_v best_a for_o the_o commodity_n and_o service_n of_o the_o church_n the_o 5._o demonstration_n as_o it_o be_v among_o the_o jew_n so_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o church_n for_o ever_o demonstrat_n demonstrat_n as_o it_o appear_v by_o this_o for_o it_o be_v translate_v from_o they_o to_o we_o as_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v by_o corrupt_a imitation_n call_v sanhedrim_n by_o the_o rabbynes_n do_v import_v and_o have_v nothing_o ceremonial_a in_o it_o but_o it_o be_v execute_v by_o the_o church_n among_o they_o and_o not_o by_o one_o john_n 9.22_o ergo_fw-la the_o church_n be_v to_o excommunicate_v and_o not_o one_o man_n here_o the_o demonstrator_n leave_v off_o his_o christianity_n and_o will_v become_v a_o jew_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n and_o erect_v the_o jewish_a policy_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n to_o the_o mayor_n by_o the_o jew_n you_o may_v mean_v either_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n or_o the_o apostle_n and_o disciple_n in_o jewrie_n the_o late_a you_o can_v
mean_v for_o the_o practice_n of_o their_o religion_n and_o the_o outward_a profession_n be_v not_o authorize_v if_o you_o mean_v the_o former_a say_v plain_o you_o mean_v sanhedrim_n or_o synagoga_fw-la if_o sanhedrim_n that_o either_o as_o political_a only_o or_o political_a and_o ecclesiastical_a together_o and_o that_o again_o either_o as_o the_o first_o institution_n suppose_v by_o some_o or_o as_o the_o depravation_n be_v at_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n for_o what_o be_v that_o else_o but_o a_o mix_a and_o compound_a presbytery_n as_o in_o christ_n time_n and_o then_o christ_n shall_v send_v we_o to_o the_o synagogue_n which_o caluin_n like_v not_o and_o we_o shall_v require_v a_o gift_n and_o a_o altar_n as_o it_o be_v matth._n 5.24_o v._o so_o this_o be_v the_o great_a improbabilitie_n in_o the_o world_n viz._n that_o as_o it_o be_v among_o the_o old_a or_o late_a jew_n so_o it_o must_v be_v in_o christ_n church_n now_o unto_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mayor_n that_o it_o be_v translate_v unto_o we_o from_o they_o etc._n etc._n you_o must_v prove_v the_o translation_n and_o show_v in_o one_o demonstration_n time_n place_n &c_n &c_n or_o any_o other_o circumstance_n to_o evince_v it_o or_o prove_v the_o erection_n or_o ordination_n of_o this_o discipline_n in_o stead_n of_o that_o otherwise_o to_o say_v there_o be_v a_o allusion_n unto_o that_o or_o a_o respective_a look_v of_o christ_n upon_o that_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a collusion_n with_o god_n truth_n to_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v a_o session_n of_o 72._o with_o the_o prince_n &c_n &c_n be_v the_o image_n of_o your_o imagine_a presbytery_n especial_o a_o corruption_n and_o not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n but_o in_o the_o thalmud_n be_v to_o carry_v away_o the_o matter_n with_o a_o bold_a forehead_n and_o impudent_a outface_v this_o i_o have_v also_o speak_v unto_o afore_o in_o this_o chapter_n to_o the_o minor_n this_o be_v not_o ad_fw-la idem_fw-la for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d another_o thing_n with_o we_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a as_o for_o the_o place_n of_o john_n 9_o it_o decipher_v not_o whether_o one_o for_o many_o have_v authority_n to_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n but_o that_o a_o decree_n be_v so_o make_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v cast_v out_o not_o tell_v how_o or_o by_o how_o many_o it_o be_v to_o be_v execute_v final_o in_o say_v the_o sanhedrim_n have_v nothing_o ceremonial_a belike_o it_o have_v the_o more_o judicial_a or_o moral_a whether_o it_o be_v the_o one_o or_o other_o it_o be_v questionless_a how_o it_o be_v a_o corruption_n of_o a_o better_a thing_n but_o carry_v not_o the_o resemblance_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o you_o will_v have_v as_o be_v sufficient_o afore_o show_v if_o judicial_a we_o be_v no_o jew_n and_o therefore_o not_o tie_v to_o it_o if_o moral_a then_o show_v the_o commandment_n and_o retain_v it_o not_o by_o piece_n meele_v but_o either_o whole_o or_o if_o but_o in_o part_n say_v you_o break_v therein_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o god_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n cyprian_n lib._n 3._o ep_v 10._o will_v do_v nothing_o in_o his_o charge_n without_o counsel_n of_o elder_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o consent_n of_o people_n his_o meaning_n be_v he_o will_v do_v nothing_o i_o a_o privatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n by_o any_o domestical_a determination_n but_o with_o the_o privity_n and_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o clergy_n that_o be_v but_o in_o consistory_n open_o or_o which_o be_v consult_v and_o conclude_v upon_o in_o synod_n public_o before_o so_o that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v prejudicial_a but_o these_o be_v minister_n that_o assist_v he_o a_o bishop_n the_o 7._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n the_o elder_n and_o other_o officer_n have_v power_n to_o absolve_v as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n 14._o demonstrat_n cypr._n epist_n 14._o remonstrance_n lib._n 3._o epist_n 14._o you_o quote_v not_o the_o book_n as_o for_o the_o place_n it_o make_v against_o the_o presumption_n of_o your_o elder_n or_o any_o pastoral_a elder_n who_o give_v ius_fw-la communicationis_fw-la without_o the_o leave_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o certain_a then_o do_v as_o for_o the_o word_n manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o cleri_fw-la it_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o authority_n in_o a_o bishop_n who_o be_v perpetual_a precedent_n of_o his_o clergy_n the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n for_o asmuch_o as_o absolution_n long_v unto_o all_o i_o dare_v not_o do_v it_o remonstrance_n demonstrat_n idem_n epist_n 19_o remonstrance_n cyprian_n say_v praeiudicare_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o solum_fw-la mihi_fw-la rem_fw-la communem_fw-la vendicare_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la in_o case_n the_o absolution_n of_o certain_a do_v concern_v many_o as_o well_o as_o himself_o he_o will_v not_o do_v that_o to_o restore_v the_o offender_n to_o their_o state_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n if_o there_o be_v any_o that_o have_v do_v such_o a_o fault_n that_o be_v to_o be_v put_v away_o from_o partake_v prayer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n 39_o demonstrat_n tertul._n apolog_fw-la cap._n 39_o there_o do_v bear_v rule_v certain_a approve_a elder_n of_o the_o church_n the_o word_n summum_fw-la futuri_fw-la iudicij_fw-la praeiudicium_fw-la est_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la deliquerit_fw-la ut_fw-la à _fw-la communicatione_n orationis_fw-la &_o conventus_fw-la &_o omnis_fw-la sancti_fw-la commercij_fw-la relegetur_fw-la president_n probati_fw-la quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la honorem_fw-la istum_fw-la non_fw-la pretio_fw-la sed_fw-la testimonio_fw-la adepti_fw-la the_o word_n follow_v give_v not_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n to_o these_o elder_n or_o arbiter_n any_o time_n much_o less_o perpetual_o if_o at_o that_o time_n of_o persecution_n they_o have_v a_o censure_n over_o manner_n but_o let_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v 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