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be_v no_o way_n engage_v against_o it_o but_o advise_v it_o and_o practice_n it_o the_o calvinist-churche_n do_v not_o practice_v it_o much_o because_o they_o know_v not_o well_o how_o to_o divest_v it_o from_o its_o evil_a appendage_n which_o be_v put_v to_o it_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o world_n and_o to_o which_o it_o be_v too_o much_o expose_v by_o the_o interest_n weakness_n and_o partiality_n of_o man_n but_o they_o commend_v it_o show_v they_o will_v use_v it_o willing_o if_o they_o can_v order_v it_o unto_o edification_n 13._o edification_n calvin_n instit._fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 4._o sect._n 12._o 13._o interim_n quin_fw-la sistant_fw-la se_fw-la pastori_fw-la oves_fw-la quoties_fw-la sacram_fw-la coenam_fw-la participare_fw-la volunt_fw-la adeò_fw-la non_fw-la reclamo_fw-la ut_fw-la maximè_fw-la velim_fw-la hoc_fw-la ubique_fw-la observari_fw-la and_o for_o the_o lutheran_n church_n that_o it_o be_v their_o practice_n we_o may_v see_v it_o in_o poenit_fw-la in_o 2._o 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the_o church_n declaration_n to_o compel_v we_o to_o admit_v of_o it_o now_o then_o for_o the_o quotation_n themselves_o i_o hope_v i_o shall_v give_v a_o fair_a account_n 1._o the_o word_n quote_v missae_fw-la lect._n 40._o in_o can._n missae_fw-la be_v the_o word_n of_o biel_n when_o he_o have_v first_o affirm_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v contain_v true_o under_o the_o bread_n and_o that_o it_o be_v take_v by_o the_o faithful_a all_o which_o we_o believe_v and_o teach_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n he_o add_v tamen_fw-la quomodo_fw-la ibi_fw-la sit_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la a_o per_fw-la conversionem_fw-la alicujus_fw-la in_o ipsum_fw-la that_o be_v the_o way_n of_o transubstantiation_n a_o sine_z conversione_n incipiat_fw-la esse_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la cum_fw-la pane_fw-la manentibus_fw-la substantia_fw-la &_o accidentibus_fw-la panis_fw-la non_fw-la invenitur_fw-la expressum_fw-la in_o canone_o biblii_n and_o that_o be_v the_o way_n of_o consubstantiation_n 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suprae_fw-la and_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o have_v say_v the_o same_o that_o scotus_n do_v he_o be_v one_o of_o his_o docti_fw-la &_o acutissimi_fw-la viri_fw-la there_o mention_v captiv_n contra._n captiv_n now_o if_o roffensis_n have_v the_o same_o thing_n too_o 1._o babyl_n c._n 1._o this_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n will_v have_v cause_n enough_o to_o be_v a_o little_a ashamed_a and_o for_o this_o i_o shall_v bring_v his_o word_n speak_v of_o the_o whole_a institution_n of_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n by_o our_o bless_a saviour_n he_o say_v neque_fw-la ullum_fw-la hic_fw-la verbum_fw-la positum_fw-la est_fw-la quo_fw-la probetur_fw-la in_o nostra_fw-la missa_fw-la veram_fw-la fieri_fw-la carnis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la i_o suppose_v i_o need_v to_o say_v no_o more_o to_o verify_v these_o citation_n but_o yet_o i_o have_v another_o very_a good_a witness_n to_o prove_v that_o i_o have_v say_v true_a and_o that_o be_v salmeron_n who_o say_v that_o scotus_n out_o of_o innocentius_n reckon_v three_o opinion_n not_o of_o heretic_n â—10_n tom._n 9_o tract_n 16._o p._n 108._o p._n â—10_n but_o of_o such_o man_n who_o all_o agree_v in_o that_o which_o be_v the_o main_a but_o he_o add_v some_o man_n and_o writer_n believe_v that_o this_o article_n can_v be_v prove_v against_o a_o heretic_n by_o scripture_n alone_o or_o reason_n alone_o 34._o lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr euchar_n c._n 34._o and_o so_o cajetan_n be_v affirm_v by_o suarez_n and_o alanus_n to_o have_v say_v and_o melchior_n canus_n perpetuam_fw-la mariae_fw-la virginitatem_fw-la conversionem_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la ita_fw-la expressa_fw-la in_o libris_fw-la canonicis_fw-la inuenies_fw-la 18._o page_n 37._o vide_fw-la letter_n p._n 18._o sed_fw-la adeo_fw-la tamen_fw-la certa_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la sunt_fw-la ut_fw-la contrariorum_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la authores_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la haereticos_fw-la judicarit_fw-la so_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v give_v up_o for_o no_o sure_a friend_n in_o this_o q._n the_o article_n whole_o rely_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n viz._n of_o rome_n who_o make_v faith_n and_o make_v heresy_n as_o she_o please_v but_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n be_v that_o also_o which_o chedzy_n say_v in_o his_o disputation_n at_o oxford_n in_o what_o manner_n christ_n be_v there_o whether_o with_o the_o bread_n transelemented_a or_o transubstantiation_n the_o scripture_n in_o open_a word_n tell_v not_o but_o i_o be_o not_o likely_a so_o to_o escape_v 38._o pag._n 38._o for_o e._n w._n 19_o see_v also_o the_o letter_n to_o a_o friend_n p._n 19_o talk_v of_o a_o famous_a or_o rather_o infamous_a quotation_n out_o of_o peter_n lombard_n and_o add_v foul_a and_o uncivil_a word_n which_o i_o pass_v by_o but_o the_o thing_n be_v this_o that_o i_o say_v petrus_n lombardus_fw-la can_v not_o tell_v whether_o there_o be_v a_o substantial_a change_n or_o 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