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the_o case_n with_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n and_o the_o other_o christian_a church_n now_o extant_a in_o the_o world_n 113._o world_n 113._o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o communion_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v condemn_v the_o arian_n in_o the_o first_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a council_n the_o church_n in_o communion_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v never_o condemn_v by_o any_o general_a council_n need_v not_o to_o call_v they_o in_o to_o help_v she_o to_o condemn_v macedonius_n nestorius_n and_o eutyches_n in_o the_o three_o follow_a council_n the_o same_o catholic_a church_n that_o thus_o condemn_a arius_n macedonius_n nestorius_n and_o eutyches_n in_o the_o four_o first_o general_n council_n condemn_v the_o follower_n of_o origen_n in_o the_o 5_o the_o monothelite_n in_o the_o 6_o the_o iconoclast_n in_o the_o seven_o and_o the_o schismatic_a photius_n and_o his_o adherent_n in_o the_o 8_o and_o as_o this_o catholic_a church_n need_v not_o the_o assistance_n of_o those_o heretic_n who_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o first_o four_o general_n council_n to_o help_v she_o to_o condemn_v those_o that_o be_v extant_a when_o she_o call_v the_o 5_o so_o do_v she_o not_o need_v the_o aid_n of_o they_o or_o of_o those_o that_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o 5_o or_o 6_o to_o help_v she_o to_o condemn_v the_o iconoclast_n or_o photius_n in_o the_o seven_o or_o 8_o and_o thus_o we_o can_v show_v in_o follow_v age_n as_o error_n do_v arise_v still_o new_a council_n call_v as_o the_o first_o second_o three_o f._n see_v binins_n tom._n 7._o part_n 2._o pag._n 806._o f._n and_o four_o of_o lateran_n in_o which_o last_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v define_v against_o berengarius_fw-la and_o his_o follower_n the_o albigenses_n by_o 400._o bishop_n and_o 800._o father_n after_o these_o the_o first_o and_o second_o of_o lion_n the_o late_a of_o which_o condemn_v the_o error_n which_o the_o eastern_a church_n have_v fall_v into_o by_o the_o delusion_n of_o photius_n the_o condemn_a schismatic_n c._n ibi_fw-la compartunt_fw-la paleologus_fw-la impa_n constaniinopoliâ—â—nas_fw-la cuns_fw-la magno_fw-la comit_v u_fw-la qui_fw-la tertia_fw-la decima_fw-la vice_fw-la in_o sententiam_fw-la roman_a ecclesiae_fw-la graecos_n suos_fw-la toties_fw-la deficientes_fw-la conetilio_fw-la necessario_fw-la pertraxit_fw-la bin._n tom_n 7_o â—onc_fw-fr pag._n 891._o c._n and_o in_o which_o as_o binius_fw-la note_n from_o trithemius_n the_o grecian_n return_v the_o thirteen_o time_n to_o the_o roman_a catholic_n faith._n then_o follow_v that_o of_o vienna_n in_o france_n against_o the_o beguarde_n and_o the_o beguines_fw-la after_o which_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n anno_fw-la 1438._o in_o which_o the_o greek_n and_o the_o latin_n consent_v to_o these_o point_n the_o procession_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n the_o belief_n of_o a_o purgatory_n and_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n though_o through_o the_o negligence_n of_o the_o emperor_n john_n palaeologus_n occasion_v by_o his_o too_o much_o solicitude_n for_o worldly_a concern_v and_o the_o calumny_n of_o mark_n the_o metropolitan_a of_o ephesus_n this_o council_n have_v not_o its_o wish_a effect_n after_o this_o the_o 5_o council_n of_o lateran_n anno_fw-la 1512._o for_o the_o reestablish_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o condemnation_n of_o the_o schism_n begin_v by_o the_o unlawful_a assembly_n at_o pisa_n and_o last_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n anno_fw-la 1545._o against_o luther_n calvin_n and_o all_o the_o modern_a heresy_n this_o to_o be_v silent_a concern_v the_o vast_a number_n of_o provincial_a council_n we_o can_v show_v eighteeen_n ecumenical_a council_n rome_n all_o the_o general_a council_n that_o condemn_v error_n communicate_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n general_o receive_v as_o such_o by_o all_o but_o those_o who_o error_n be_v either_o condemn_v in_o they_o or_o some_o forego_v council_n the_o member_n of_o all_o which_o council_n be_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o none_o dissent_v from_o that_o communion_n but_o such_o as_o have_v be_v thus_o condemn_v neither_o can_v protestant_n ever_o show_v that_o even_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n or_o any_o other_o in_o communion_n with_o she_o be_v ever_o thus_o cut_v off_o by_o any_o general_a council_n or_o the_o doctrine_n that_o she_o hold_v condemn_v it_o be_v only_o she_o therefore_o and_o those_o church_n in_o communion_n with_o she_o all_o which_o we_o call_v the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n that_o can_v challenge_v the_o title_n of_o orthodox_n that_o be_v of_o one_o holy_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a this_o truth_n be_v thus_o establish_v and_o it_o have_v be_v plain_o show_v what_o we_o mean_v by_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n i_o pass_v over_o his_o second_o and_o three_o exception_n because_o as_o i_o have_v already_o say_v they_o be_v 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be_v but_o evident_o convince_v that_o his_o own_o belief_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o undoubted_a authority_n of_o god_n holy_a word_n this_o i_o tell_v he_o be_v a_o doctrine_n that_o if_o admit_v dissenter_n maintain_v all_o dissenter_n will_v maintain_v all_o dissenter_n that_o be_v or_o can_v be_v from_o a_o church_n and_o establish_v as_o many_o religion_n as_o there_o be_v person_n in_o the_o world_n 80._o desence_n pag._n 80._o which_o consequence_n he_o confess_v to_o be_v ill_a but_o such_o as_o he_o think_v do_v not_o direct_o follow_v from_o this_o doctrine_n as_o lay_v down_o in_o his_o exposition_n but_o what_o if_o they_o follow_v indirect_o or_o by_o a_o evident_a though_o secondary_a deduction_n will_v not_o that_o suffice_v to_o discountenance_v such_o a_o doctrine_n as_o open_v a_o gap_n to_o such_o licentiousness_n in_o belief_n when_o faith_n be_v but_o one_o and_o without_o which_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o he_o 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any_o proof_n of_o they_o
as_o if_o they_o be_v first_o principle_n which_o need_v none_o he_o draw_v this_o admirable_a conclusion_n worth_a the_o consideration_n of_o every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o for_o which_o the_o dissenter_n will_v no_o doubt_n return_v he_o thanks_o if_o say_v he_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n a_o man_n be_v to_o judge_v for_o himself_o and_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o clear_a and_o sufficient_a rule_n for_o he_o to_o judge_v by_o it_o will_v plain_o follow_v that_o if_o a_o man_n be_v evident_o convince_v upon_o the_o best_a enquiry_n he_o can_v make_v that_o his_o particular_a belief_n in_fw-la necessary_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v found_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o he_o be_v oblige_v to_o support_v and_o adhere_v to_o his_o own_o belief_n in_o opposition_n to_o that_o of_o the_o church_n because_o he_o must_v follow_v the_o superior_a not_o the_o inferior_a guide_n now_o from_o hence_o any_o 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haer_fw-mi c._n 3._o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o every_o church_n shall_v have_v recourse_n to_o that_o of_o rome_n by_o reason_n of_o its_o more_o powerful_a principality_n and_o will_v with_o the_o same_o ancient_a father_n allow_v he_o a_o power_n to_o 69._o to_o euseb_n l._n 5._o hist_o c._n 23._o p._n 69._o excommunicate_v even_o the_o eastern_a bishop_n and_o much_o more_o those_o sure_a under_o the_o western_a patriarchate_n with_o 1664._o with_o de_fw-fr monogamia_fw-la c._n 8._o p._n 529._o edit_fw-la rigaâ—t_fw-la â—paris_n 1664._o tertullian_n 1648._o tertullian_n epist_n 55._o p._n 91_o epist_n 71._o ad_fw-la quintum_fw-la fra_n trem_fw-la p._n 140._o edit_fw-la paris_n 1648._o st._n cyprian_n 131._o cyprian_n admetus_n ps_n 131._o st._n hilary_n and_o general_o with_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o st._n peter_n though_o some_o of_o those_o who_o live_v after_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o arian_n 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exempt_a from_o such_o jurisdiction_n they_o will_v have_v unanimous_o oppose_v it_o in_o some_o of_o the_o succeed_a general_n council_n after_o they_o have_v see_v such_o epistle_n from_o the_o pope_n challenge_v that_o authority_n but_o we_o find_v they_o so_o far_o from_o this_o that_o his_o plea_n be_v admit_v in_o those_o very_a council_n and_o not_o the_o least_o opposition_n make_v from_o what_o i_o have_v already_o say_v it_o will_v appear_v how_o easy_a a_o thing_n it_o may_v be_v to_o show_v he_o in_o the_o primitive_a father_n and_o council_n what_o be_v give_v by_o all_o catholic_n at_o present_a to_o his_o holiness_n or_o challenge_v by_o he_o as_o of_o necessary_a faith._n as_o to_o the_o pope_n be_v style_v universal_a bishop_n he_o know_v that_o st._n gregory_n the_o great_a decline_v that_o title_n in_o one_o sense_n though_o he_o challenge_v it_o in_o another_o that_o be_v he_o look_v not_o upon_o himself_o as_o universal_a bishop_n in_o this_o sense_n as_o if_o 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