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â—ornelium_fw-la â—_o epist_n 55._o velâ—ab_n â—ab_z 10._o epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la â—ornelium_fw-la to_o who_o he_o write_v in_o this_o manner_n cum_fw-la statutum_fw-la sit_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la nobis_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereas_o it_o be_v decree_v by_o all_o of_o we_o in_o some_o national_a council_n of_o africa_n and_o be_v both_o just_a and_o fit_a that_o every_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a shall_v be_v there_o hear_v where_o the_o fault_n be_v commit_v and_o to_o all_o pastor_n a_o part_n portio_fw-la gregis_fw-la of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n not_o all_o the_o flock_n to_o one_o be_v entrust_v which_o every_o one_o ought_v to_o rule_v as_o he_o that_o must_v give_v a_o account_n to_o god_n not_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n cornelius_n it_o become_v not_o those_o who_o we_o be_v over_o to_o run_v about_o to_o other_o church_n aim_v particular_o at_o the_o roman_a and_o by_o their_o subtle_a and_o fallacious_a rashness_n to_o divide_v the_o concord_n of_o bishop_n and_o 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e._n universal_a faith_n to_o believe_v any_o thing_n parisien_n hen._n 1._o hen._n 2._o apud_fw-la matth._n parisien_n and_o what_o do_v henry_n viii_o as_o other_o king_n of_o england_n before_o he_o worse_o than_o saint_n austin_n and_o the_o whole_a african_a church_n in_o forbid_v appeal_n and_o forbid_v his_o legate_n in_o their_o own_o kingdom_n why_o may_v not_o england_n do_v this_o as_o well_o as_o africa_n well_o however_o our_o adversary_n will_v relish_v it_o 22._o can._n 22._o the_o council_n of_o milevis_n another_o african_a council_n forbid_v all_o appeal_n to_o transmarine_a church_n aim_v no_o doubt_n especial_o at_o rome_n under_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n out_o of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o africa_n and_o another_o at_o carthage_n 26._o council_n carthag_n 3._o can._n 26._o decree_v that_o no_o bishop_n whosoever_o no_o not_o the_o roman_a shall_v be_v call_v the_o prince_n of_o bishop_n but_o only_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o first_o seat_n or_o see._n 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they_o may_v he_o say_v not_o positive_o that_o they_o do_v five_o he_o make_v a_o difference_n which_o romanist_n take_v little_a notice_n of_o between_o martyr_n and_o other_o saint_n and_o deny_v that_o because_o martyr_n per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la miraculous_o or_o by_o special_a dispensation_n be_v sometime_o here_o on_o earth_n in_o their_o temple_n therefore_o we_o be_v to_o think_v the_o same_o of_o all_o dead_a saint_n general_o or_o that_o they_o can_v come_v to_o we_o quando_fw-la volunt_fw-la when_o they_o will_v as_o bellarmine_n determine_v 20._o d._n sanct._n beatit_fw-fr lib._n 1._o c._n 20._o but_o miraculous_a dispensation_n be_v no_o safe_a rule_n for_o ordinary_a supplication_n to_o all_o saint_n promiscuous_o last_o suppose_v it_o true_a that_o the_o live_a be_v help_v some_o way_n or_o other_o by_o martyr_n pray_v unto_o he_o say_v whether_o it_o be_v by_o their_o be_v present_a in_o so_o many_o distant_a place_n at_o the_o same_o time_n where_o their_o memory_n i._n e._n monument_n or_o church_n be_v or_o which_o no_o doubt_n he_o can_v not_o but_o think_v more_o probable_a whether_o they_o be_v in_o some_o place_n remote_a from_o humane_a converse_n be_v yet_o general_o pray_v for_o such_o as_o pray_v not_o to_o they_o but_o god_n who_o may_v employ_v angel_n in_o answer_v their_o request_n as_o we_o pray_v in_o the_o general_a for_o the_o dead_a although_o we_o know_v not_o where_o they_o be_v or_o what_o they_o do_v definire_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la i_o dare_v not_o resolve_v from_o all_o which_o we_o may_v easy_o discern_v how_o uncertain_a saint_n austin_n be_v concern_v the_o presence_n knowledge_n and_o assistance_n of_o saint_n depart_v afford_v to_o some_o not_o who_o pray_v to_o they_o but_o to_o god_n from_o whence_o we_o may_v certain_o conclude_v that_o invocation_n of_o dead_a saint_n be_v no_o part_n of_o st._n augustine_n creed_n but_o at_o utmost_a a_o probable_a and_o doubtful_a opinion_n only_o as_o we_o 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stand_v pray_v to_o the_o saint_n to_o the_o tentmaker_n and_o fisherman_n peter_n and_o paul_n to_o intercede_v with_o god_n for_o he_o to_o which_o i_o first_o oppose_v saint_n augustine_n word_n senens_fw-la epist_n 42._o non_fw-la petro_n sed_fw-la deo._n de_fw-fr script_n eccl._n ad_fw-la ann_n 398._o hom_o 39_o in_o 1_o cor._n 15._o sixtus_n senens_fw-la the_o emperor_n at_o the_o tomb_n of_o peter_n pray_v not_o to_o peter_n but_o god._n second_o the_o homily_n be_v supposititious_a for_o as_o bellarmine_n himself_o grant_v the_o true_a homily_n of_o chrysostome_n ad_fw-la popul_n antiochen_n be_v but_o 21._o three_o chrysostome_n hold_v that_o christian_a saint_n depart_v be_v not_o till_o the_o resurrection_n admit_v to_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n of_o which_o opinion_n be_v many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n quote_v for_o this_o invocation_n by_o our_o adversary_n art._n 5_o image-worship_n concern_v image-worship_n i_o come_v to_o
have_v rome_n where_o first_o observe_v that_o he_o with_o irenaeus_n ascribe_v the_o same_o authority_n to_o corinth_n philippi_n etc._n etc._n which_o he_o do_v to_o rome_n second_o he_o speak_v not_o of_o jurisdiction_n but_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o apostolic_a doctrine_n three_o it_o be_v conditional_a if_o you_o be_v near_o italy_n you_o have_v rome_n tertullian_n never_o think_v that_o all_o christian_a church_n be_v subject_a to_o rome_n either_o as_o to_o doctrine_n or_o government_n or_o be_v bind_v to_o appeal_v and_o sub_fw-la mit_fw-ge unto_o she_o again_o chap._n 20._o the_o apostle_n have_v first_o preach_v the_o gospel_n in_o judea_n promulge_v the_o same_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n to_o the_o nation_n in_o regard_n of_o this_o doctrine_n they_o be_v account_v apostolical_a wherefore_o so_o many_o and_o great_a church_n be_v that_o one_o first_o church_n from_o the_o apostle_n of_o which_o all_o be_v so_o all_o be_v first_o omnes_fw-la primae_fw-la and_o all_o apostolical_a whilst_o all_o prove_v one_o unity_n now_o if_o all_o be_v first_o all_o apostolical_a how_o can_v the_o roman_a church_n claim_v any_o primacy_n or_o principality_n over_o all_o even_o apostolical_a church_n origen_n in_o matth._n imitator_n petra_n est_fw-la omnis_fw-la christi_fw-la imitator_n 16._o every_o disciple_n of_o christ_n be_v that_o rock_n if_o you_o think_v the_o church_n to_o be_v build_v on_o peter_n only_o what_o will_v become_v of_o john_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n what_o be_v speak_v to_o peter_n be_v speak_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n and_o christian_n all_o be_v peter_n and_o the_o rock_n the_o key_n be_v not_o only_o give_v to_o peter_n this_o now_o at_o rome_n be_v no_o less_o than_o heresy_n 45.47.49_o epist_n 45.47.49_o let_v we_o hearken_v to_o saint_n cyprian_n who_o usual_o write_v to_o pope_n cornelius_n as_o to_o his_o brother_n colleague_n and_o fellow-bishop_n not_o as_o his_o prince_n and_o sovereign_a or_o universal_a bishop_n especial_o in_o his_o 72._o epistle_n direct_v to_o he_o he_o in_o which_o matter_n we_o force_v no_o man_n we_o give_v law_n to_o no_o man_n see_v every_o bishop_n have_v the_o free_a liberty_n of_o his_o own_o will_n in_o the_o administration_n or_o government_n of_o his_o church_n be_v to_o give_v account_n of_o his_o action_n not_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n but_o to_o god._n in_o his_o preface_n before_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n he_o have_v these_o word_n none_o of_o we_o make_v himself_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n i._n e._n supreme_a universal_a bishop_n or_o compel_v his_o colleague_n by_o tyrannical_a terror_n to_o obedience_n etc._n etc._n where_o he_o seem_v to_o reflect_v on_o pope_n stephen_n compare_v those_o word_n of_o tertullian_n de_fw-fr pudicit_fw-la c._n 10._o the_o high_a priest_n the_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n mean_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n say_v i_o absolve_v adulterer_n 75._o ejus_fw-la errorem_fw-la denotabis_fw-la qui_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la causam_fw-la defendit_fw-la baronius_n ad_fw-la ann._n 258._o n._n 47._o a_o canonize_v saint_n menolog_n graec._n in_o octob._n 28._o ☞_o epist_n 75._o which_o no_o doubt_n he_o speak_v ironical_o and_o by_o way_n of_o irrision_n in_o his_o epistle_n 74._o he_o write_v against_o pope_n stephen_n charge_v he_o with_o error_n and_o plead_v the_o cause_n of_o heretic_n against_o the_o church_n of_o god._n can_v any_o man_n believe_v cyprian_n take_v pope_n stephen_n for_o his_o supreme_a governor_n and_o infallible_a head_n of_o all_o church_n but_o firmilian_a the_o famous_a bishop_n of_o cappadocia_n high_o commend_v by_o baronius_n ad_fw-la ann_n 258._o num_fw-la 45._o be_v not_o afraid_a to_o accuse_v the_o same_o pope_n stephen_n of_o open_a and_o manifest_a folly_n who_o say_v he_o glory_v de_fw-fr episcopatûs_fw-la svi_fw-la loco_fw-la of_o his_o episcopal_a seat_n or_o sea_n and_o that_o he_o be_v successor_n of_o saint_n peter_n on_o who_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v make_v many_o rock_n and_o build_v new_a church_n he_o add_v also_o svas_fw-la eos_n qui_fw-la romae_fw-la sunt_fw-la non_fw-la ea_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la abservare_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ab_fw-la origine_fw-la tradita_fw-la de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la eccles_n paci_n consoretio_fw-la praedicti_fw-la honoris_fw-la &_o potestatis_fw-la although_o he_o say_v before_o of_o peter_n tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o super_fw-la illum_fw-la unum_fw-la aedificat_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la pascendas_fw-la mandat_fw-la oves_fw-la svas_fw-la that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v guilty_a of_o violate_v the_o ancient_a canon_n and_o that_o pope_n stephen_n by_o excommunicate_v so_o many_o christian_a church_n excommunicate_v himself_o i_o will_v add_v that_o note_a passage_n of_o st._n cyprian_n idem_fw-la caeteri_fw-la quod_fw-la petrus_n etc._n etc._n the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v the_o same_o with_o peter_n endow_v with_o a_o equal_a fellowship_n or_o copartnership_n of_o honour_n and_o power_n they_o be_v all_o pastor_n but_o the_o flock_n be_v but_o one_o which_o be_v to_o be_v feed_v by_o all_o not_o peter_n only_o or_o his_o successor_n by_o virtue_n of_o feed_v my_o sheep_n by_o unanimous_a consent_n not_o by_o deputation_n by_o or_o subjection_n to_o peter_n and_o such_o as_o succeed_v he_o at_o rome_n a_o little_a before_o he_o say_v although_o christ_n grant_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n after_o his_o resurrection_n parem_fw-la potestatem_fw-la equal_a power_n breathe_v on_o they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o say_v who_o sin_n you_o remit_v etc._n etc._n yet_o to_o manifest_a unity_n he_o appoint_v one_o chair_n he_o speak_v to_o peter_n and_o to_o thou_o will_v i_o give_v etc._n etc._n singular_o why_o not_o that_o peter_n have_v a_o great_a power_n or_o authority_n which_o he_o express_o deny_v before_o than_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o say_v saint_n cyprian_n to_o commend_v to_o we_o unity_n that_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v one_o without_o schism_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v the_o intent_n of_o all_o that_o discourse_n now_o if_o saint_n peter_n have_v no_o supremacy_n over_o all_o the_o apostle_n and_o church_n the_o pope_n as_o derive_v it_o from_o he_o can_v have_v just_a right_n to_o none_o let_v i_o add_v saint_a cyprian_n 67._o epistle_n where_o he_o advise_v they_o what_o to_o do_v concern_v the_o heretical_a french_a bishop_n who_o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o people_n to_o own_o though_o he_o have_v surreptitious_o obtain_v pope_n stephen_n confirmation_n he_o add_v as_o a_o reason_n 68_o v._o epist_n 68_o we_o be_v many_o pastor_n but_o we_o feed_v one_o flock_n and_o we_o ought_v to_o gather_v and_o succour_v all_o the_o sheep_n yea_o if_o any_o of_o our_o society_n è_fw-la collegio_fw-la nostro_fw-la i._n e._n any_o bishop_n 67._o si_fw-mi haeresin_fw-la facere_fw-la &_o gregem_fw-la christi_fw-la lacerare_fw-la &_o vastare_fw-la tentaverit_fw-la subveniant_fw-la caeteri_fw-la epist_n 67._o shall_v fall_v into_o heresy_n and_o rent_n the_o church_n the_o rest_n ought_v to_o help_v where_o he_o exempt_v not_o any_o bishop_n no_o not_o the_o pope_n from_o possibility_n of_o err_v even_o heretical_o as_o to_o be_v sure_a pope_n liberius_n and_o honorius_n do_v in_o arnobius_n and_o lactantius_n i_o find_v nothing_o to_o our_o present_a purpose_n i_o pass_v to_o saint_n hilary_n 174._o de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la l_o 2._o lib._n 6._o n._n 674._o haec_fw-la fides_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la pag._n 174._o this_o be_v the_o one_o immovable_a foundation_n this_o be_v the_o rock_n of_o faith_n confess_v by_o saint_n peter_n thou_o be_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o god._n again_o on_o this_o rock_n of_o confession_n the_o church_n be_v build_v this_o faith_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n saint_n chrysostome_n often_o expound_v the_o rock_n 10._o in_o locum_fw-la hom._n 55._o christus_fw-la ipse_fw-la est_fw-la petra_n greg._n m._n in_o psalm_n poenitent_n 5._o augustin_n in_o joann_n epist_n 1._o tract_n 10._o matth._n 16._o of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d confession_n of_o the_o deity_n of_o christ_n make_v by_o peter_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n add_v theophylact_fw-mi 14._o see_v liberius_n his_o epistle_n to_o achanasius_n opera_fw-la athan._n tom._n 1._o lib._n 1._o in_o jovinian_a c._n 14._o saint_n basil_n of_o seleucia_n with_o other_o basil_n the_o great_a epist_n 8â—_n ad_fw-la athanasium_fw-la term_v athanasius_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o greek_n their_o head_n the_o leader_n and_o prince_n of_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n to_o who_o they_o do_v fly_v for_o advice_n sure_o saint_n athanasius_n rather_o than_o the_o arian_n heretic_n pope_n liberius_n be_v like_o a_o rock_n unshaken_a in_o those_o day_n saint_n hierome_n say_v the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o the_o apostle_n ex_fw-la aequo_fw-la 10._o in_o 1._o epist_n joan._n tract_n 10._o equal_o not_o on_o peter_n principal_o or_o only_o much_o