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A17865 A tract of the soueraigne iudge of controuersies in matters of religion. By Iohn Cameron minister of the Word of God, and divinity professour in the Academie of Montauban. Translated into English by Iohn Verneuil. M.A. Cameron, John, 1579?-1625.; Verneuil, John, 1582 or 3-1647. 1628 (1628) STC 4532; ESTC S107505 32,785 50

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pretend_v all_o that_o of_o right_n it_o belong_v unto_o they_o can_v make_v any_o certain_a choice_n or_o cull_v out_o those_o on_o who_o in_o truth_n it_o be_v to_o be_v confer_v chap._n 9_o the_o verification_n of_o the_o second_o mean_n of_o nullity_n against_o the_o first_o allegation_n it_o be_v then_o very_a manifest_a that_o all_o these_o allegation_n be_v incompatible_a with_o the_o intent_n of_o those_o who_o allege_v they_o but_o forall_a this_o they_o will_v darken_v and_o weaken_v the_o right_n of_o the_o cause_n against_o which_o they_o be_v allege_v if_o we_o do_v not_o also_o show_v their_o falsity_n and_o impertinency_n which_o be_v the_o second_o mean_n of_o nullity_n that_o we_o have_v oppose_v against_o they_o to_o begin_v then_o with_o the_o first_o it_o be_v a_o infinite_a wrong_n that_o the_o write_a word_n of_o the_o live_a god_n be_v call_v a_o dead_a and_o dumb_a letter_n that_o god_n speak_v in_o this_o fashion_n shall_v be_v account_v not_o to_o speak_v at_o 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no_o long_o in_o use_n no_o not_o in_o the_o romish_a church_n which_o notwithstanding_o do_v glory_n so_o much_o for_o keep_v &_o observe_v of_o tradition_n approve_v by_o antiquity_n &_o receive_v for_o apostolical_a chap._n 12._o the_o verification_n of_o the_o second_o mean_n of_o nullity_n against_o the_o five_o allegation_n touch_v the_o five_o allegation_n that_o the_o scripture_n can_v be_v the_o rule_n see_v it_o can_v put_v a_o end_n to_o the_o dissension_n of_o they_o who_o make_v profession_n to_o keep_v themselves_o strict_o unto_o it_o be_v also_o wonderful_o perverse_a for_o question_n be_v not_o make_v of_o such_o a_o rule_n as_o unto_o which_o all_o those_o shall_v true_o and_o indeed_o conform_v themselves_o who_o make_v a_o show_n so_o to_o do_v neither_o of_o find_v such_o a_o judge_n as_o all_o they_o who_o profess_v to_o yield_v &_o refer_v themselves_o to_o his_o judgement_n shall_v in_o effect_n perform_v it_o so_o long_o as_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v 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chap._n 13._o the_o verify_n of_o the_o second_o mean_n of_o nullity_n against_o the_o six_o allegation_n but_o if_o heretic_n for_o answer_n unto_o the_o six_o accusation_n lay_v claim_n to_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v not_o in_o effect_n and_o indeed_o but_o only_o in_o show_n and_o therefore_o as_o those_o who_o make_v some_o false_a demonstration_n in_o the_o mathematics_n although_o they_o make_v use_v of_o principle_n of_o the_o science_n be_v notwithstanding_o refute_v and_o convince_v by_o the_o same_o principle_n and_o therefore_o their_o error_n be_v no_o way_n preiudicious_a to_o the_o authority_n and_o certainty_n of_o the_o mathematics_n even_o so_o the_o heretic_n albeit_o for_o to_o cloak_n their_o heresy_n they_o teere_v in_o piece_n the_o scripture_n and_o wrest_v it_o to_o their_o sense_n ought_v nevertheless_o to_o be_v convince_v no_o otherwise_o then_o by_o the_o same_o scripture_n of_o which_o the_o lord_n have_v leave_v unto_o we_o a_o notable_a example_n in_o 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