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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	apostle_n	paul_n	timothy_n	3,216	5	10.2195	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A95782	An information for Mr. William Dell the (right reformer) as he is pleased to stile himself: (being the first to our best remembrance that ever assumed that title.) Or, An answer to his reply upon Mr. Loves contradictions. Together with the answer unto his epistle dedicatory to the Parliament. / By Umfrevile.	Umfrevile, William.	1646 (1646)	Wing U26; Thomason E367_10; ESTC R201269	16,565	31

found for it in the word then for any other It may easily be gathered from his discourse otherwise why doth he fall with such a feud upon Master Love for maintaining the Reformation such as now it is established by Covenant telling him that he would reforme without the word yea against the word Oh frons perfricta Oh what aforchead hath this man without any secular power loe then what troubles Master Dells sore eyes he is diseased to see the present Reformation in the Church bore up and supported by temporall and Secular power he likes neither the supporters neither the supported he would rather then his life make a rent the one from the other Master Dell hath cond his lesson divide et impera he cannot thrive in his fishing except these waters be troubled Illi quieta magna merces and to effect this omnem movet lapidem he spares not for falsehoods first he tells Master Love that he reformes not only without but against the Word to bring Master Love out of conceite with the people he tells the Magistrate that the Presbutery will not suffer the power in their hands but would faine tugge it out and get it into their owne and rule the rost forsooth as they please and thus he writes to withdraw the Magistracie from the Presbutery and to put suspition if not envy into their heads but to conclude this his third Reply Doth not Mr. Dell read no where in the Prophet Esay Kings shall be thy nursing Fathers and Queens thy nursing Mothers is not this spoken of the Church and is not the meaning of that the time should come that the great Potentates of the earth should maintain cherish support and countenance the outward profession government and disciplinary exercise of the true Gospel without which the Gospel can have no sure progresse nay no repute in the world punishing bridling and mateing by their secular power now in a spirituall and christian hand all refractary flyers out all inordinate and extravagant opposers either in dogmaticall points or manners Mr. Love saith that Saint Pauls setting all things in order that was a Church order and sure it was to this our Replier spurs a question and demands what outward or secular power Paul had to set the Church in order had Saint Paul none good Mr. Dell Did Saint Paul exercise no outward power in the Church during his abode upon the earth read you not what order he gave unto Timothy concerning the choosing of Elders and what his carriage should be in the rebuking of an Elder Doth he not write unto the same Timothy what Widdows he would have chosen in the Church and what not did he not sharpely reprove the whole Church of Corinth in two matters The first concerning their dissolute behaviour in their comming to the Lords Table the second for their going to Law one with another and the trying of their differences before unbeleeving Judges whence did accrue much scandall to the profession of Christ and did he not give expresse order for the redresse of both and was this done without a powert and thinks not Mr. Dell that this power was likewise obeyed or conceives Mr. Dell that all Christians were haile-fellow well met with Saint Paul in point of ruling and directing in the outward face of the visible Assemblies of the Church or doth Mr. Dell take that Text of Saint Paul for Apocrypha or no Where the Apostle makes a Clymax though not a Hierarchie in Government of the Church saying that God had ordained some Doctors some Pastors some Teachers in the church and all for the building up of the body of Christ if Mr Dell takes these words for Scripture as I know not whether he will or no sure I am many of his Gang have of late chalked through the Bible what they will have goe for Scripture and what not but if he admit of this passage of the Apostle for Scripture he must needs grant that Saint Paul speaketh of an outward visible government in the Church I mean amongst men and that for the building up enlarging not binding up the invisible kingdom of Jesus Christ in men but I have not done with S. Paul yet had he no outward power in the Church no To cry all Government down under heart Government and all Reformation as carnall because the civill Magistrates hand is to it is not only against the Doctrine of Saint Paul 1 Tim. 2.2 Pray for Kings c. but Mr. Love it is against all other places of his Epistle Where upon occasion he mentioneth the civill sword as namely that in Romans 12. where the Apostle disputes at large the prerogative of civill power above the rest all others being delegative from him in his own Dominions Obey the higher powers saith that great St. Paul because none but of God Therefore obey the King as chief and Lord Paramont and others as his Lieutenants St. Paul or rather the holy Ghost by St. Paul sticketh not to give reason of this obedience He beareth not the Sword in vain God hath not given it to him for nothing he hath not committed it into his hand onely to contemplate it to gaze upon it Tanquam ignem in pariete depictum no such matter he hath Commission from God to put it in practice to be active with it Ad sust inendos bonos ad coercendos malos What returns Mr. Dell to this Mr. Dell pro imperio suo doth not hold this contradiction of Mr. Love worth his reply Non vacas exiguis rebus adesse Jovi Aquila non capit museas 't were a disparagement for Mr. Dell to answer a contradiction so full of Chinks as this and therefore he transmits This Mr. in Israel Thus out of his abundant respect unto Mr. Love and out of a conscientious circumspection not to wrong him in the least measure as he gives us to understand in his Prologue he is pleased to flowt him he puts him over I say to be answered by Babes and Sucklings onely for his better instruction he will vouchsafe to give Mr. Love the sence of the Scripture impertinently alledged by him for the holy Ghost I take it whispers The right Informer in the eare as the Pigeon did sometime the Imposter Mahomet all the right sence of any place of Scripture he needs not pump for the Exposition of any difficult or knottie passage of the Bible he The right Informer hath a priviledge from erring in expounding any text of holy Writ ascribed to him ex asse Innocentius Paulus Vrbanus Bonifacius not any of Christs Vicars Generall ever had the like no not è Cathedrâ doth Mr. Dell the right Informer give the sence never doubt it Ipse dixit t is out of hunger and cold let us hear then from Mr. Dell the Interpretation of that text wherein Mr. Love he saith was so grosly mistaken that he is forced to turn him over unto babes and sucklings for an Answer Why the evident sence of that