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A92172 A briefe narration of some church courses held in opinion and practise in the churches lately erected in New England. Collected out of sundry of their own printed papers and manuscripts with other good intelligences. Together with some short hints (given by the way) of their correspondence with the like tenents and practises of the separatists churches. And some short animadversions upon some principall passages for the benefit of the vulgar reader. Presented to publike view for the good of the church of God by W. R. Rathband, William, d. 1695. 1644 (1644) Wing R298; Thomason E36_11; ESTC R21802 84,830 61

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8._o after_o the_o party_n be_v so_o admit_v the_o minister_n or_o some_o one_o or_o more_o of_o the_o member_n of_o that_o church_n in_o name_n of_o the_o rest_n do_v give_v he_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o fellowship_n and_o do_v likewise_o repromise_v to_o perform_v all_o church_n duty_n to_o he_o contain_v in_o the_o same_o covenant_n as_o unto_o the_o rest_n of_o her_o member_n j._n w._n to_o t._n s._n 9_o thus_o for_o admission_n of_o person_n of_o age_n now_o for_o infant_n they_o account_v they_o in_o the_o same_o estate_n with_o their_o next_o parent_n for_o if_o either_o of_o their_o next_o natural_a parent_n be_v now_o or_o be_v decease_v die_v a_o member_n of_o some_o such_o particular_a society_n as_o aforesaid_a then_o be_v their_o child_n also_o account_v member_n and_o so_o baptize_v if_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v before_o infant_n before_o cold_a comfort_n to_o christian_a parent_n not_o of_o their_o way_n and_o cold_a charity_n to_o their_o infant_n but_o if_o neither_o of_o they_o have_v be_v or_o have_v be_v former_o if_o at_o the_o present_a be_v alive_a neither_o of_o they_o be_v a_o member_n then_o their_o infant_n as_o themselves_o be_v account_v to_o be_v without_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o same_o estate_n with_o the_o child_n of_o turk_n and_o heathen_n alien_n from_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o israel_n and_o so_o uncapable_a of_o baptism_n or_o any_o other_o church_n privilege_n whatsoever_o yea_o though_o the_o grandfather_n be_v a_o member_n or_o perhaps_o a_o minister_n of_o that_o church_n or_o though_o one_o or_o more_o of_o the_o next_o parent_n be_v no_o member_n be_v eminent_o and_o famous_o godly_a and_o will_v undertake_v to_o educate_v their_o child_n in_o the_o true_a faith_n and_o fear_v of_o god_n and_o neither_o wilful_o nor_o negligent_o omit_v to_o join_v themselves_o to_o such_o a_o church_n but_o abstain_v only_o out_o of_o want_n of_o sic_fw-la opportunity_n to_o do_v it_o or_o out_o of_o tenderness_n of_o conscience_n as_o scruple_v some_o thing_n in_o their_o way_n yet_o for_o all_o this_o their_o infant_n shall_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n as_o not_o be_v within_o but_o without_o the_o church_n mr_n m._n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la 61_o 62_o 63_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 20_o 21._o apol._n p._n 29._o chap._n viii_o of_o their_o dismiss_v of_o member_n from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o or_o otherwise_o 1._o no_o person_n once_o thus_o admit_v as_o aforesaid_a into_o any_o of_o their_o church_n aught_o to_o remove_v thence_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o say_a church_n first_o seek_v and_o obtain_v for_o if_o lie_n do_v they_o hold_v that_o he_o break_v covenant_n with_o god_n and_o the_o church_n and_o like_o ananias_n and_o sapphira_n lie_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 73._o apol._n p._n 39_o r.m._n to_o e.b._n p._n 6._o inasmuch_o as_o they_o conceive_v their_o convenant_n bind_v they_o not_o to_o depart_v without_o consent_n ibid._n 2._o therefore_o when_o any_o will_v remove_v they_o require_v that_o he_o first_o give_v notice_n thereof_o to_o the_o danger_n the_o why_o must_v he_o needs_o consult_v with_o this_o rather_o than_o any_o other_o perhaps_o this_o may_v be_v more_o partiald_v than_o any_o other_o because_o concern_v more_o no_o man_n so_o fit_a to_o be_v judge_n in_o his_o own_o cause_n but_o if_o with_o this_o church_n why_o with_o the_o whole_a church_n why_o not_o rather_o with_o some_o few_o of_o the_o more_o secret_a and_o discree_a person_n that_o know_v both_o how_o to_o give_v counsel_n and_o to_o keep_v counsel_n what_o if_o his_o reason_n be_v secret_a and_o he_o can_v discoyer_n they_o but_o to_o his_o shame_n loss_n or_o danger_n church_n wherewith_o he_o be_v in_o covenant_n and_o lay_v before_o they_o how_o many_o soever_o they_o be_v in_o a_o public_a meeting_n both_o his_o reason_n for_o which_o he_o desire_v to_o remove_v and_o also_o to_o what_o other_o church_n he_o will_v remove_v and_o consult_v with_o they_o about_o both_o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 74._o apol._n p._n 20._o 3._o if_o upon_o examination_n they_o approve_v both_o of_o his_o reason_n why_o and_o of_o the_o place_n whither_o he_o will_v go_v than_o they_o consent_v and_o give_v he_o letter_n of_o dismission_n and_o recommendation_n to_o that_o other_o church_n they_o send_v he_o away_o with_o their_o prayer_n and_o blessing_n ibid._n 4._o if_o contrary_o they_o approve_v not_o either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o they_o dissuade_v he_o from_o his_o purpose_n if_o they_o prevail_v nor_o they_o will_v not_o hold_v he_o by_o violence_n for_o that_o they_o can_v yet_o