smal number which by order of their foundation bee put apart to the studie of Lawe or Phisicke some after two some after three some after foure yeres of their coÌ„mencement are compelled eyther to enter into the ministerie or to leaue their fellowships Nay in some Colledges if Bachelers of arts be chosen felows be not ministers after one yeare by statut they loose their places The principle reason of the fouÌ„ders of all which statutes to my best remembrance is this namely that the haruest being great and the laborers but few many labourers shal be sent from those Colledges into the haruest Neither can it be intended that many laborers of long continuance many labourers of profound knowledge or manie labourers of ripenes should be sent But it is simply provided that many labourers and not loyterors should be sent yet now the Admonitor rather theÌ„ that some loyterers should not bee sent contendeth to seclude some labourers from the worke Besides how can they be of any long continuance of any ripenes or of any profound knowledge in the mysteries of faith and Godlines when not hauing accoÌ„plished the age of 24 yeres 26 yeres or 28 yeares at the most not hauing giuen them selues aboue 2. 3. or 4. yeares at the most to the studie of divinitie nay which after the studie of 3. or 4. yeares of Philosophie or artes and no studie of Divinitie must notwithstaÌ„ding enter into the ministerie wherfore from the statutes of the Colleges in the Vniversities I thus dispute If the necessitie of the Colledge statutes doe compell All Maisters of arts before mentioned and some Bachelers of arts not hauing any profound knowledge or being but of small continuance or not of any ripenes eyther to leaue their colleges or to enter into the Ministery then much more the necessity of preaching Faith the necessity of being saued and the necessity of God his glory may compell men of small learning of small knowledge of small ripenes and of small continuance to execute their Ministery rather theÌ„ that any parish should be necessarily clogged with a Minister of no learning of no discretion of no knowledge of no ripenes and of no continuance But the necessity of the college statutes do compell the one Therefore the necessity of Faith c. may compell the other Admonition Against the inconvenience of discipline by excommunication Pag. 81. onely which hee saith we so much cry for he telleth vs that some learned men of this age haue at large declared in their works set forth to the world that the same wil bee of most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendement of life Assertion But who taught him to father or to fasten this vntrueth vpon vs only then No discipline by excommunication only called for this might suffice for answere that hee did neuer yet heare any one of our part so much as cal much lesse to cry for discipline by excommunication onlie For we saye cleane otherwise viz. that the Discipline of the Church ought not to be executed as now for the most part it is by excommunicatioÌ„ onlie This maner Discipline by excoÌ„munication only no more to be suffred of discipline therfore by excommunication only is one of the disorders in the Church vsed by the reuerend Bb. which we so much desire to bee reformed And for this cause we intreate their Lordshippes to forbeare the practise of that which as it seemeth they would so fayne haue others to mislike But happely this was not the marke whereat the Admonitor short for Bishopply and Archdeaconly excommunication being daylie vsed it is like that he bent his bowe and aymed at that excommunication onely whiche is Pastorall and Elderly Agaynst which forme The writings of soâ—â— learned men not sufficieÌ„t to coÌ„demne excommunicatioÌ„ by Pastours and Elders and maner of excommunication let be so that some learned men of this age haue at large declared in their workes set foorth to the worlde that the same wil be of most men contemned and that it wil be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life let this I say be graunted what of all this must the Church of England therefore dislike and reiect the same God forbid The whole doctrine of Faith and Sacraments we know to be of most men contemned to be of small force to bring most men from superstitions Popiâ—h idolatrie And how theÌ„ is it possible but that the sworde of this doctrine should haue as litle enterteynement amongst most men as the doctrine He that casteth away the kernell will much more despise the shale And hee that setteth light by a sworde will set lesse by the scabberd It sufficeth then that the children of the Church in England striving to enter in at the narow gate embracing the doctrine of the Gospel it is sufficient I say that they submit subiect their neckes vnto the yoke of the Gospell for what haue we to doe with them that are without Doth the law of Englande endight condemne and iudge a Spaniard resiant in Spaine The Admonitor himselfe affirmeth Pag. 134. at the time when our Saviour Christ said dic Ecclesiae that there were manie presidents as it were and governours of the Church together with the chief Ministers of every congregation nay further he saith that hee will not deny that the Apostles afterward the primitiue Pag. 235. The Bb. coÌ„fesseth that the Minister and Elders did gouerne in the primitiue church Church did practise the same These some learned men then either must shew and proue vnto vs the children of God in England that this forme of governing the church excommunicating by many presidents and governours together with the chief Ministers of every Congregation was given to the Churches in the time of Christ and his Apostles but onely for that time that therefore that forme is now at an ende and ceased or else it must be confirmed vnto vs thaâ— God hath in these dayes altered and changed his minde touching England and that he hath by some new vision or reuelation commaunded the reuerend Bb in these dayes to teach the church of Englande that hee will not haue the same manner of gouerment vsed in the Church of England because The opinioÌ„ of some learned men not sufficient for the Church of England to departe from the worde it would bee of most of his children in England contemned and of small force to bring to effect any good amendemeÌ„t of life in them for albeit all the learned men in the world had declared as much in their workes set foorth to the world as is here spoken of what were that to the children of God in England vnlesse the same learned men had taught vnto vs true learning froÌ„ the mouth of God How much lesse are we bouÌ„d to regard what only some learned men of this age haue
An Assertion For true and Christian Church-Policie Wherein certaine politike obiections made against the planting of Pastours and Elders in every Con gregation are sufficientlie aunswered And wherein also sundrie projectes are set downe how the Discipline by Pastors Elders may be planted without any derogation to the Kings Royal prerogatiue any indignitie to the three Estates in Parleament or any greater alteration of the laudable Lawes Statutes or Customes of the Realme then may well be made without damage to the people 1604. An assertion for true Christian Church-Policie Wherein certeine politike obiections made against the plāting of Pastors and Elders in every Congregation are sufficientlie answered And wherein also sundrie proiectes are set downe howe the Discipline by Pastours and Elders may be planted without any derogation to the Kings Royall prerogative c. Admonition THe reason that moueth vs not to like of this platforme of Pag. 77. gouerment is that when we on the one part consider the things that are required to be redressed on the other the state of our countrey people and common weale we see euidently that to plant those things in this Church will draw with it so many and so great alterations of the state of gouerment and of the lawes as the attēpting therof might bring rather the ouerthrow of the Gospell among vs then the end that is desired Assertion The benefit of all exceptions and advantages to the invalidity vncertainty imperfections infufficiēcy of this admonitory bill matters therein conteyned alwayes saued for aunswere to so much as concerneth this clause euerie other clause and article of the bill hereafter following and without that that there is any matter or thing in the same bill or admonition materiall to be aunswered vnto and not herein or hereby sufficiently answered confessed avoyded traversed deemed is true in such manner and forme as in the same is set forth and declared the defendant is ready to aver maintayne and proue his aunswere as shall please the King to award and to commaund And therefore hee most humbly beseecheth the King if it please the King that he haue found favour in his sight that his exceptions may be admitted and reade and that his counsel learned in the law may be heard and suffered to speake This platforme of gouerment intended Booke of com pray tit commination Homil. 2. part of the right vse of the Church Admo pag. whitgift pag. 654. M. Nowell in his cathe M. Calvin M. Iunius looke Petic to her excellent Maie pag. 11. by the admonitor not to bee liked of in this place is that platforme of Church gouernement by Pastours and Elders which the booke of common Prayer the doctrine of the Church of Englande doe highlie commande and which he him self Mr. D. Whitgift now Lord Archbishop of Canturbury verie manie other c reuerend Diuines of our age doe publickely confesse in their writings to haue bene practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church From whence it followeth that the gouerment of the church by Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes Archdeacons Deacons Chancelours Commissaries and Officialls now already planted and liked of was not practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church And therefore for my part I can not but marueile that a disciple of the Apostles doctrine and a successor in the Apostles Chayre should bee drawne by humane reasons not to like of the Apostles gouerment nor to tread in the steps of the primitiue church For seeing the same is acknowledged by himselfe to bee the first way to be the old and ancient way as being the Apostles way why should wee not Iere. 6. 16. walke therein as in the onelie good and perfect way The reuerend Bishops will not deny that the Apostles and primitiue Church for their manner of gouerment had the mind of Christ and that we should follow the Apostles as hauing them for examples because they were the followers of Christ Againe they can not but graunt that the manner of gouerment practised by the Apostles primitiue church is written within the booke of the couenants of grace All which notwithstanding wee see in this place that from the new Testamēt from the articles of grace from the law from the testimony from the example of the Apostles and from the mind of Christ we are addressed and turned ouer to our state of gouerment to our countrey to our people to our common weale and to our lawes But this turning of deuises shall it not be esteemed as the potters Isaiah 29 16. clay But saith he to plant those things in this church which are required to bee redressed might bring rather the ouerthrow of the Gospell then the end that is desired Indeed say I if this might be as soone proued as it was soone said the case might haue gone well with him But this parable is so darke that vnlesse it be opened there is no light at all to be seene in it For hee well knew that in steed of the gouerment practised by the Apostles and primitiue church the iurisdiction of Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes Deacons Archdeacons Chancelours Commissaries and Officials is already planted in this church And he was not ignorant also that the same iurisdiction onely and none other is required to be redressed Now then if request be made that this manner of gouerment bee redressed how can it euidently be seene that to plant that maner of gouerment might bring rather the ouerthrowe of the Gospell then the end that is desired But it may be that hee ment more lightsomely then he spake Yea let it be that he intended thus viz. to vnplant that which is now planted and to plant those things which are yet vnplanted by reason of many and great alterations might bring rather an ouerthrow of the Gospell then the end that is desired well I say be it so that he thus ment How is this thing euidently seene or how can it euidently be proued The best sight that the seruant of Christ can haue is faith For Faith is an euidence of thinges which are not seene Heb. 11. This ouerthrow then of the Gospell not being seene with his bodily eyes must needes be intended to haue bene seene with the eyes of his faith But where is that word of Christ wherevpon the eyes of his faith were fixed If then hee hold no word of faith then of necessitie was his euident sight but an euident fancie And in deed what else could it be For what other thing is there desired to bee planted in this church but onely the Apostolicall gouernement of Christ And what other Gospell could hee euidently see that might bee ouerthrowne by holding foorth this scepter but onlie the Apostolicall doctrine of Christ A merveylous strange and vnkind sight I trow to be seene that the Apostolicall gouerment could no sooner be planted but that the Apostolicall doctrine must needs be rooted vp That Christ by his owne scepter were not
able to maintaine his own grace by his own order should weaken his owne oath or by his owne sword should cut from the people of God his owne word But seeing it was his purpose to perswade the people vnto a dislike of the Apostolicall gouerment by arguments and reasons drawen from humane policie rather then to confirme them in a good opinion of the prelaticall gouerment by proofes taken from the authoritie of holy Scripture we will follow him in this his veine Yea and by the helpe of God we will trie of what efficacie such his politicke and humane reasons may be as wherewith he did assaye to disswade the people froÌ„ consenting vnto any other maner of Church gouermeÌ„t then is already setled among vs. The generall effect of all which both here and els where spoken of by him brieflie gathered is this Such things may not bee planted in the Church of England as by attempting the planting wherrof there is an euident sight that the Gospell among vs may be ouerthrowne But there is an euident sight that the Gospell amoÌ„g vs may be ouerthrown by attempting to plant that gouermeÌ„t in the church of EnglaÌ„d which was practised by the Apostles primitiue Church therefore that maner of gouerment may not bee planted The assumption of which sillogisme hee endevoureth to confirme thus whatsoeuer will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of gouerment and of the lawes the same may bring rather the ouerthrow of the Gospell then the end that is desired but the planting of the gouerment practised by the Apostles and primitiue church will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of gouerment and of the lawes Therefore the planting of this maner of gouerment may rather bring an ouerthrow of the Gospell c. If any shall obiect that by thus gathering his argumeÌ„t I had in this place falsified his argument by adding more then is here expresly vttered by him let such one vnderstand that this charge is but a meere and needlesse cauill For sithence both here and throughout his booke his intent was to dispute for the gouerment already receiued against the gouerment which is required to be planted in the Church And for so much also as none other gouerment is required to bee planted but that onely gouerment which was practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church it must necessarilie follow that the arrowes which hee shott against the gouerment required to be planted were shott onely against the gouerment which was practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church And therefore there can bee no iust charge of any falsification vsed in the gathering of his arguments Against which I argue as followeth Whatsoeuer will draw with it no alterations of the state of gouerment but few or small alterations of the lawes the same may rather bring the end that is desired viz a godlie peace and Christian vnitie both in Church and common weale then the ouerthrow of the Gospell among vs. But the planting of the gouermeÌ„t practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church will draw with it no alteration of the state of gouerment and but few or small alterations of the lawes Therefore the planting of the gouerment practised by the Apostles primitiue Church may rather bring the end that is desired viz a godlie peace and christian vnitie both in church and common weale then the overthrow of the Gospell among vs. The trueth of which argument will theÌ„ appeare when the Admonitors argument shal be conuinced of errour for the disproofe of the one is the proofe of the other and if his fall then can not this but follow And touching the invalidity of the first proposition of his second sillogisme we affirme that the alterations of the state of gouerment of the lawes bee they neuer so many and neuer so great can neuer bring any ouerthrowe of the Gospell if the same alterations be made for the planting of the Gospell For the lawes once altered can ouerthrow naught because they are then no more lawes And to say that the Gospell once planted by authority of new lawes caÌ„ be ouerthrowne by the same lawes is more absurd For the new lawes giue life to the enterteyning of the Gospell by meanes whereof the Gospell can not discontinue so long as those lawes continue And herevpoÌ„ also it followeth that no alteration of laws for sweeping clensing of the Church for casting and whippyng buiers and sellers and choppers of churches out of the Church can ouerthrow the Gospell For if all drosse filth and corruption be cast out if all lets and impediments be done a way it can not be but that the Gospell must needs haue a freer larger passage as wherunto a wider doore can not be but opened for the bringing in of a more plentiful haruest And if the Church bee beautifull as Tyrsa and comely as Ierusalem if she Solo. Song 6. 3. 4. looke as the morning If she be faire as the Moone pure as the Sunne and terrible as an army then is she set as a seale on the Lords heart and as a signet vpon his arme and then shall the coles of his â—elouzie be as fiery coles and as a vehement flame that much water shal neuer quench it nor any floods euer drowne â—t But if he should rather meane that â—he alterations of the state of gouernement would be so many and so great as that therevpon he did strongly imagine â—uidentlie to see the ouerthrow of the Gospell then we say that no state of gouerment can euer vndergoe either manie or few either small or great alterations vnlesse by alteratioÌ„ of lawes made by the same state of gouermeÌ„t the same 〈◊〉 of gouerment bee altered Now 〈◊〉 if our politicke state of gouerment whereof he must needes speake for otherwise his speech were to no purpose to amend and reforme abuses in it selfe may iustly put it selfe vnder the yoke of a new law as it hath done and daylie doeth vnto many newe lawes and so in this respect after a sort in some part alter it self for euery reformatioÌ„ is a kind of alteration without any domage hazard or preiudice to it self if I say this may well be so what a silly skarr crow is there here brought into the field to fray our politick state of gouuerment from attempting a reformation in the Church Belike he knew some to faine that our state of gouermeÌ„t must necessarily fancy whatsoeuer they fancy And namely that a reformation of the Church can not but infer a desolation of the State or that the State can not be well ordered except it suffer the Church to bee disordered or that the Church could not be fayre well fauoured and in good plight but the state of our couÌ„try people and common weale must be foule ill fauoured and out of heart or lastly that the State can not launce bind draw heale vp the sores wouÌ„ds contagions of the church but
or condemned by forrein power or by forren lawes There shall no husbandrie no clothing no handicraft no mariner no marchaÌ„dize no lawes of the land no maner of good learning whatsoeuer in Schoole Colledge or Vniversitie bee decreased or laid aside Wherfore the Admonitor toying neuer so much how so euer he hath made his flourish cast about with his May bees his I feare his I pray God his yfes his andes howsoeuer I say it pleased him to trifle with these gew gawes yet shall none euer be able to proue by anie proofes dravvne from the holy Scripture or humane reason that anie hinderance in dignitie or incumbrance can euer betide our Nobles our Commons the state of our Countrey people lawes or common Weale if the state of church-gouermeÌ„t were translated from Archbishops Bishops Archdeacons Chancelours CoÌ„missaries and Officialls which are officers in the house of God onelie according to the commaundements and traditions of men vnto the gouernment practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church which they can not denie but must coÌ„fesse to haue bene according to the holy pleasure of God Nay our Nobles and our commons are most assured to be so farre from being endamaged or loosing ought hereby as herby they shall purchase that vnto them selues which neuer yet any oppugner of so good and holy a cause could attayne vnto Namely they shall seale vp vnto their owne soules infallible testimonies of good and sincere consciences testimonies I saye of their fidelities vnto God testimonies of their allegiance vnto him by whom they haue bene redeemed and testimonies of loue and compassion vnto the whole church of God Nay further our coÌ„mons shal be so farre from bringing anie damage vpon them selues as they shall marvelouslie benefit them selues First by purchasing vnto themselues a large immunitie from manie foule and great greeuances and exactions of money imposed leuied vpon them by officers and deputies of Archbishops Bishops Archdeacons c. Secondlie by hauing the Lord Christ whose cause they vndertake and whose glorie they advance to be a friend vnto their friends and an enemie vnto their enemies And if our Nobles and our Commons be all hushed if they be all at sleepe at peace and at rest we may cast away all feare and be past all doubt that the King can not but holily recreate and solace him selfe and that his gray haires when soeuer they shall come shall neuer be brought to the graue in sorrow but in a good perfect age and peace But happelie it may be replied that Pag. â—9 some of our Nobles and most of our commons be so backwardlie affected Pag. 79. to the trueth of Religion as that rather they would turne head vpon the Gospell then brooke an alteration of Archiepiscopall Episcopal and Archidiaconall Church gouerment In deed if a reformation of the state of the Cleargie were attempted by anie other meanes then by publicke tractation and coÌ„sent of ParleameÌ„t I could not but leane vnto this opinion that the attempting thereof might bring an overthrow to the attempters Because the same attempt should be dishonorable to the name of God as being contrarie to the forme of doctrine receiued But since thinges amisse are required to be redressed by the King and Parleament alone this obiection is altogether vaine and frivolous and is alreadie sufficientlie convinced by that peaceable agreement betweene Nobles and Commons before remembred But let vs wade a litle deeper and search a litle more narrowlie into euery vaine creeke and corner of this supposition And let vs see by what maner of persons this pretensed ouerthrow of the Gospell might be wrought All carnall sensuall and earthly men No feâ—re that prophane men will ouerthrow the Gospell either whose belly is their god or whose god is this world all such men I say as in euery age be of Domingoes religion namely iust iumpe of that religion which the King and State professe they are so farre from attempting ought to ouerthrow the Gospel as vnder the shadow of the name thereof they wil euermore croude and couer their carnalitie and prophanes For they being euermore of euery religion and so in deede of no religion and passing not whether our Sauiour Christ or Beliall be their God sing as the Poët singeth Ais Aio Negas Nego becke and bow cap and knee to whatsoeuer the state and lawe commandes If the King be a Gospeller the Gospell the Gospell and naught els but the Gospell shal be found to roule in their mouthes But let the Crowne once turne by and by they haue turned their coates and as wether cockes with euery puffe of wind are huffed about Whatsoeuer order or maner of gouerment be planted or displanted in the Church the same shal be no corosiue to them It shall neuer sticke in these mens stomackes neither will they lay it to their hearts The King and Counsell is wise inough and knowe what they haue to doe well inough They will not be more forward nor wiser theÌ„ the Prince they will not checke and controll the whole Realme They can not brooke these busie bodies and medlers in matters aboue their reach They wil be none of these new fangled and precise fooles they will not bee backward and come behinde the law as the Papistes doe neither will they be to forward and runne before the law as the Puritans doe But they wil behaue themselues in all things and at all seasons as discrete politike Protestants ought to doe coÌ„forming submitting themselues alwayes to all order authoritie of the Queenes booke lawes setled Yea and though they be not booke learned nor any pen clerkes yet they beleeue well And therefore they will goe to the Church and say a few prayers yea they will receaue the Sacrament at Easter as deuoutlie as the best precisian of them all All these Atheistes and godlesse men being neither hot nor cold neither fish nor flesh nor good red hering plant what plants you will and sow what seedes you list yea make what ditch hedge pale wall or fence you please they set cocke vpon hoope passe not a button for it euery season be it wet or be it dry euery kind of laÌ„d be it clay or be it sand euery furrow be it broad or be it narrow be it deepe or be it shallow pleaseth coÌ„tenteth these medley coates alike They are like vnto Iacobs â—wes which hauinge straked and party coloured rods laid before them in the gutters at a ramming time brought forth none other but partie coloured lambes And therfore they will neuer stir hand nor foote nor once steppe ouer a straw to worke any least anoyance to the Gospell It is good sleeping alwayes for these men in a whole skinne And not much vnlike to these partie coloured slepers are the admoniâ—orie protestants For they as the dutie of faithfull subiectes doe bind them liâ—ing in a state of a Church reformed and hauing libertie in
externall gouermeÌ„t other outward orders to choose such as they thinke in wisedom godlinesse to bee most convenient for the state of their countrie and disposition Admonitorie Protestants by their owne doctrine ought not to bind the Church to a perpetuall goverment of prelacie of the people and hauing the consent of their godly Magistrates to that out ward forme of iurisdiction and deciding of Ecclesiasticall causes these kind of protestants I say alwayes blowing out the trumpet of obedience and crying an alarum of loyaltie to euery ordinance of man and grauelie wiselie and stoutlie demeaning them selues against all the giddy heads and fanaticall scismatikes and wrangling spirits of our age dare not I trow slip the collar nor cast of the yoke dare not push with the horne nor wince with the heele against the Gospel If so bee by the authoritie of our Christian King with the consent of his ParleameÌ„t the platforme of gouerment as hee saith deuised by some of our neighbour Churches but as we they theÌ„ selues confesse practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church might bee receiued and established to bee the best and fittest order of gouerment for the Church of Englande as well as it hath bene a long time and yet is of Scotland of most of all other Christian Churches For if it be to great a bridle of christian libertie as they say in thinges externall to cast vpon the Church of Christ a perpetuall commandement if the church haue free libertie to make choise of what gouerment soeuer shee thinketh convenient then is she neither restrained at her pleasure to forsake that which by long experience she hath found to be inconvenient neither is she tied still to retaine Archiepiscopall Episcopall and Archidiaconall gouerment though for a long season the same haue bene vsed For that in deed might well and iustlie be said to be too great a bridle of christian libertie when by necessitie there is cast vpon the Church such a perpetuall regiment of prelacie as may not be remooued Wherefore if our continued prelaticall discipline whereby the libertie of the church is taken away by publike authoritie of the King and States might be discontinued and libertie graunted to the Church to vse the Apostolical discipline either our Admonitorie Protestantes must yeelde stoup and obey or else be found to be a wayward a contentious and a fromâ—ple generation And if these two former kinds of our people which the land beeing deuided into fiue partes make three at the least shall euery way be supporters of vnitie and conformitie to the Gospell and no way disturbers of the peace libertie and tranquilitie of the Church what ouerthrow or what damage may the Gospell sustaine by the other parts Yea though they should vnite linke and confederate themselues in one For are they not weaker in power poorer in purse of farre lesse reputation then the former And yet neuertheles these partes are at such deadlie feude one against the other and at such an irreconciliable enimitie betweene them selues that the case standeth now betweene them as sometimes it stood betwene Caesar and Pompey not whether of them should reigne but whether of them should liue And how then can these parts thus diuided possiblie agree together against the other partes so surelie combined Besides the first sort of these two sorts Puritane Protestants can neuer othrowe the Gospell whom it pleaseth our Protestantes the Admonishers for difference sake to dubb with the Knights Hood of Precisians or precise and puritane Protestants Why They are the onelie and principall spokes-men and petitioners for the Apostolicall Discipline required to bee planted Nay these men out of the holy Scriptures so resolutelie are perswaded of the trueth of God conteyned therein as without which they know perfectlie that the doctrine of the Gospel can neuer powerfullie florish or be enterteyned with so high a maiestie in the hearts of men as it ought to be And as The Gospel hath ouerthrown the papist therfore he can neuer ouerthrowe the Gospell for the other sort the Papistes I meane alas that poore ratt what ouerthrow can he worke to the Gospel whose bane the Gospell hath wrought so long since Alas this faynt goast is so farre spent his disease growne so desperate his sickenesse now at such an hay-now-hay as al the phisicke of all the Phisitions in the world caÌ„ not recouer his health or once take away his hed-ach This silly snake then hauing hissed out all his sting spit out all his venime vngorged him self of all his poyson how can his skin or how should his tayle anoy the Gospel If therefore it might please the Admonishers vpon a reuew of our State our countrey and our people to cast such men as be open enemies to the Gospell into squadrons causing them to march rancke by rancke troupe by troupe and deliuering vnto the King a muster roule of all the names qualities conditions of the principal popish recusants within the Realme for none but such onely can be suspected openly to bande them selues against the Gospell it is not to be doubted but the least part of all the other foure partes would bee as great in number as these And what theÌ„ should the King and state feare the multitudes of recusantes when one standing on the Kings side should be able to withstand tenne and tenne an hundreth and an huÌ„dreth a thousand and a thousand tenne thousand papistes King Asa crying vnto the Lord his God that it was nothing with him to helpe with many or with no power and resting vpon the 2 Cron. 14. Lord ouercame tenne hundreth thousand and three huÌ„dreth chariots of the Ethiopians and Labimes For the eyes of the Lord behold all the earth to shew him selfe strong with them that are of a perfect heart toward him And when King Ioash remembred not the kindnes which Iehoiada the Priest had done vnto 2 Chro 24. him but slew Zechariah his sonne the Lord deliuered the King a verie great armie into the hands of a small companie of the host of the King of Aram who gaue senteÌ„ce against the King slew all the Princes of Iudah froÌ„ among the people and caried the spoyle of them vnto Damascus And thus much concerning the Admonitors proposition viz Whatsoeuer will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of gouernment and of the lawes the same may bring rather the ouerthrow of the Gospell then the end that is desired All which speach of his I affirme to be but a vaine and trifling ridle as the vvhole strenght whereof resteth onely vppon a may bee Wherevnto if I should onelie haue spokeÌ„ thus and no more viz that manie and great alterations c. might rather not bring an ouerthrow of the Gospell c. I suppose and that vpon good ground that such may might not be might euerie way be as forcible to disproue the one as his may be
can any way be pregnant to proue the other And touching his assumption viz but the planting of the gouerment practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church will draw with it many great alterations of the state of gouerment of the lawes If in this place he vnderstood the state of Church gouerment and of the lawes Ecclesiasticall now in vse then is the proposition true And yet notwithstanding we avow the Gospell to be so farre from incurring any ouerthrow by such an alteration as thereby it is certayne that the same shal more more florish and be perpetuallie established by reason that this alteration should be made frō that which by long experience is knowne to be corrupt vnto that which is knowne by the holy Scriptures to be pure and sincere From a gouerment I say and lawes authorized by tradition and commandements of man alone to a policy lawes founded and descended by and from God him selfe But if the Admonitor by the assumption ment to enforme vs that the planting of the Apostolical gouerment will draw with it manie and great alterations of the temporall state of gouernment and of the temporall lawes statutes or customes of the kingdome then as before to his first so now also to his seconde I answere negatiuely and affirme that the The planting of the Apostolicall gouermēt will draw no alteratiō of the lawes of the realm with it planting of the said Apostolicall gouerment will not draw with it any least alteration of anie part of that temporall state of gouerment nor almost of anie one common statute or customarie law of the Land which may not rather bee altered thē reteyned For this platforme of gouerment we are able by the helpe of God to defend the same generallie for the most part to be most agreeable and correspondent to the nature qualitie disposition estate of our countrey people common weale and lawes as in our particular answeres to his particular reasons shall more at large appeare In all new and extraordinarie alterations it is not onely requisite to abolish al bad opinions out of the minds of those that know not the drift of the enterprisers but it is also necessarie that the defence of such alterations be made forcible against the opposition of all gaynesayers We will descend to the particulars ioyne issue with the Admonitor And vpon allegations exceptions witnesses and recordes to be made sworne examined and produced out of the holie Scriptures and lawes of the Land alreadie setled on the behalf of our cause before our Soveraigne Lord the King his Nobles and cōmons in Parleament we shall submit our selues and our cause to the Kings Royall and most Christian Iudgement In the meane time we 〈◊〉 that not onely the former clause of this admonitorie Bill but that al other clauses following in the same bill for the invaliditie insufficiencie indignitie and nullitie of them are to be throwne out and dismissed from the Kings Court especiallie for that the particulars opened by the Admonitor can not serue for any reasonable warning to induce the common people to relie themselues vpō his I am of opinion to the which wee plead at barr as followeth Admonition First saith he the whole State of Pag. 77. the Lawes of this Realme wil be altered For the Canon Law must be vtterlie taken away with all Offices to the same belonging which to supply with other lawes and functions without many inconveniences would bee verie hard the vse and studie of the civill law wil be vtterly overthrown Assertion When by a common acceptance and vse of speech these words whole state of the lawes of the Realme are vnderstood of the common and statute lawes of the Realme that is to say of the Kings temporall lawes and not of Canon or civill lawes it cannot followe that the whole state of the lawes of the Realme should Canon and civil laws no part of the laws of the Realme but only by sufferance be altered though the Canon and civill lawes with all Offices to the same belonging should be vtterly taken away be wholy overthrowne For no more could the Admonitor prove the canon or civill law at any time heretofore to haue bin any part of the lawes of this Realm otherwise then onlie by c 2. 25. H 8. C 21. in the preamble sufferance of our Kings acceptance long vse and custome of our people then can any man proue a parsly-bed a rosemary-twigge or an ivie-branch to be any part of the scite of the Castle of Farnham And therefore he might aswell haue concluded thus the whole scite of the Castle of Farnham wil bee transposed for the Boxetrees the heythorn arboures and the quicke set hedges planted within the Castle-garden must be removed cast away which were but a proof proouelesse and a reason reasonlesse If then by the abrogation of the canon or civill law scarce any one part of the lawes of this Realme should bee changed what reason haue we to thinke that the whole state of the lawes of the Realme must be altered Besides to conclude the whole by an argument drawen ab enumeratione partium and yet not to number the tenth part of such parts as were to bee numbred is I am sure neither good logike nor good law Moreover if all the canon-law I meane all the papall and forraigne canon law devised and ordeined at Rome or els where without the Realme and consequently all the Offices functions to the same belonging bee alreadie vtterlie taken away what hope of reward can Civilians expect from the vse of such things as are within the compasse of that law or of what efficacie is this argument to prove an alteration of anie part of the lawes of this Realme or that the studie of the Civill Law should be vtterly overthrowne For the whole state of the lawes properlie called the lawes of the Realme hath stood and continued many yeeres since the same Papal and canon law was abolished And as touching the Civilians for them to seeke after prefermentes by An imbasemēt for Civiliās to haue preferment by offices of the canon law offices and functions of the canon law is an embasement of their honorable profession especiallie since farre greater rewardes might verie easilie be provided for them if once they would put to their helping handes for the onely establishment and practise of the civil law in the principall causes now handled by them in the Courtes called Ecclesiasticall The canon law be abolished out of the Realme ought not to be vsed But how may it be proved that the Papall and forreign canon law is alreadie taken away and ought not to be vsed in England For my part I heartilie wish that some learned men in the common law would vouchsafe to shew vnto the King and Parleament their clere knowledge in this point In the meane season I shall not be negligent to gather set downe what in mine
be continued but to continue evill And what a thing were that This argument then for lawes setled being the sophisme of that Fox Steven Gardener is but a quarelsome and wrangling argument Admonition If this goverment whereof they Pag. 7◠speake be as they say necessarie in all places then must they haue of necessitie in everie particular parish one Pastor a companie of Seniors and a Deacon or two at the least al those to be found of the parish because they must leaue their occupations to attende vpon the matters of the Church But there are a number of Parishes in England not able to finde one tollerable Minister much lesse to find such a companie Assertion This argument seemeth to be drawne from kitchin profite and is but a bugbegger to scarr covetous men from submitting their neckes vnto the yoke of that holy Discipline which our Savior Christ hath prescribed and which the Admonitor himselfe confesseth to haue bene practised by the Apostles and primitive Church And yet because this argument seemeth to lay a very heavie burden on mens shoulders such as is impossible to be borne it is an argumēt That Seniours Deacons should be found at the charge of the Parish is absurd worthy to bee examined though in it selfe the same be very vntrue absurd For who did ever fancie that a Pastour a company of Seniours and a Deacon or two at the least should be men of occupations or that they should be all found of the parish because they must leaue their occupations to attend vpon the matters of the Church Why there be many hūdreths of parishes in England wherein there dwelleth not one man of an occupation And what reason then or likelihood of reason was there to father such an absurd necessitie vpon the Church As for the necessitie of having one Pastour in every particular parish and of his finding by the parish because it is his duety to attend vpon reading exhortation doctrine although he be no man of occupation this I say is agreable consonant to the goverment of the church practised by the Bishops And therefore in the finding having of one Pastour in every parish they and we differ not But that men of occupations onelie should bee chosen Seniours and Deacons in every parish or if Seniours and Deacons were men of occupations in any parish that they should bee all found of the parish wee vtterly disclayme as an absurditie of absurdities And yet wee deny not but in Cities and great Townes wherin for the most part men of trade do inhabite that Seniours Deacons must of necessitie be men of occupations Vnlesse then an occupation must of necessitie hinder men from being faithfull religious godly men there is no reason to inforce that mē of occupations in Cities and great townes should not be chosen Seniors and Deacons And as for Countrey parishes What kinde of mē ought to be chosen Seniours Deacons wherein either verie fewe or no men of occupations doe reside this obiection is altogether idle In which parishes also we affirme that men of greatest gravitie integritie wisedome faith and godlines ought to be chosen Seniours and Deacons And we doubt not but all such men as whom we intend ought to bee chosen Seniours and Deacons whether dwelling in Cities Townes or in the Coūtrey would be as readie as willing and as watchfull prudentlie to imploy them selues hereafter in matters of the Church as now either them selues or their equalles are busied in matters of their corporations or common weale without anie maner of contribution to be yeelded towards their finding When the people of Israell were commanded to pay their tythes first fruites and other oblations vnto the Priestes Levites for their attendance and service in the Sāctuarie we doe not reade in the whole booke of God that they were inioyned to be helpers and cōtributors to the reliefe and sustentation of the Captaynes over thousands of the Captaines over hundreds nor of the Elders Governours placed Citie by Citie for the affaires of the King And therefore sithence we haue neither precept nor president that all the officers of the church should bee founde at the costes of the Church and sithence also as well in Coūtrey parishes as in Cities townes to the prayse and glorie of God be it spoken we haue many able wealthie substantiall persons who haue giuen their names vnto Christ what necessitie is there that any such Seniours and Deacons should be elected as haue need to be relieved and supported by a common purse And had the Admonitor wel and advisedlie pōdered that our Church Church wardens side men are not found at the chardges of the parishes Wardens side men who carie a semblance of governing Seniours that our collectors also for the poore who iustle out the Deacons being all of them men of occupations poore husbandmen or day labourers and being not founde of the parish are notwithstandinge oftentimes in the yere troubled and turmoyled from one end of the Diocesse vnto the other and that which is more from attendance vpon their day labour husbandrie and occupations to weight and to attend not vpō matters of the church but vpon money matters perteyning to the officers of the Bb. Consistorie Had he I say wiselie and sincerelie considered these things he would certeinlie not once haue mencioned this so sillie and simple a suggestion But quite cleane to cutt of at one blow all the skirtes of the coat of this sillie bulbegger that the verie buttockes of it may bee bare and that the church may see there is no such burdensome charge to bee layde vpon her as is feyned the graue and godlie iudgement and policie of King Edward The iudgemēt of King Ed. the sixt cōmissioners touching Elders and Deacons the sixt his Commissioners authorized to compile a booke for the reformatiō of lawes ecclesiasticall according to an Act of Parleament in that behalfe provided shall rise vp for vs and pleade the trueth and equitie of this our sayinges The Commissioners names were these viz. The most reverend Father Thomas Crammer Archbishoppe of Canterburie Thomas Bishoppe of Ely Richard Cox the Kings Almoner Peter Martyr professor of Divinitie William May Rowland Taylor Doctors of the Lawe Sir Iohn Cheeke Iohn Lucas Richard Goddericke Maister Hadon and others All Titul de diuiois officijs cap. 10. fol. 45. which reverend learned and religious men as with one voyce accord speak one thing so thus and thus they speake Evening prayer being finished wherevnto all shal be attēdant after sermon in their owne Churches the chief minister whom they call Parochies and the Deacon if happely they shal be present or they being absent let the Ministers Vicars and Elders lo the Archb. of of Cāterburie afterwards a godlie Martyr and Bishoppes can skill of the name of Deacon and Elders with the people conferr about the money put apart to
subversion vpō any nation that purely and soundly in place therof hath embraced the holy Sacrament of the Lords Supper It seemeth also to be equal for many ages past that the Bishop of Rome might haue supreame and absolute power over all persons states and causes not only in Rome Italy Spaigne Germany other forraigne Kingdoms but also in England and Scotland But as yet to the view of al the world it hath not proved perilous for the King Queen of England and Scotland to establish new lawes for the alteration of that ancient abuse And why hath it not bene dangerous so to do Why forsooth because there was evident vtilitie in doing of it But how could an evident vtilitie appeare before it was done How Forsooth because the holy law of God had warranted an alteration For faith having eyes to see the wisedom the power and the trueth of God in his word discerned a far of that the institution of the Lords Supper was long before the sacrifice of the masse And therefore our Kings by abandoning popery out of the Realme did not institute any new religion but onely they restored the old Now then if the same holy lawe of God doe condemne the choyce and thrusting of a Pastour vpon the people by one man alone and againe if the same lawe doe impugne the primacie of one Pastour over all Pastours as wel in a Diocesse or Province as in the whole West part of Christendome what daunger can it be not to disfrāchise the one sithence without any maner of danger we haue abolished the other or what perill can it be not to countenance the sonnes sithence without peril we haue discountenanced the father Especially seeing in this place of the admonition we haue a playne cōfession that the common maner of election of Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches was made by the people For if the examples of schisme discord Common manner of elections in the olde churches was by the people contention did commonly appeare in the olde churches while that maner of election did continue then by his owne mouth that maner of election was common and did continue in the olde churches Besides this inconvenience saith he caused Princes Bishops so much to entermedle in this matter From whence it necessarily againe followeth that by the holy Scriptures and law of God Princes and Bishops did not entermedle with that matter at all For had it bin simply lawful for thē to haue Bb. medle not with election of Pastours by the holie Scriptures dealt in those causes by the worde of God thē as well before schisme discord and dissention as afterward yea rather much more before then afterward For then by their own right might Princes and Bishops haue prevented all occasion of schisme and contention and haue so preserved the Church that no tumult or disorder should once haue bin raysed or begun therein Againe if by the lawe of God Princes Bishops had medled in these matters and had not entermedled by humane devise then lawfully by their authoritie alone might they haue chosen Pastours Elders and Deacons in the olde Churches which thing in this place by necessarie inference he denieth For schisme saith he caused thē to entermedle So as by his confession they were but entermedlers and entercommoners by reason of schisme not cōmoners and medlers by vertue of Gods word And yet now a dayes our reverend Bishops in this case are no more entercommoners with Princes and with the people they are no more entermedlers as in olde times they were but they haue now so farre encroched vpon the prerogatiues of the Prince and privileges of the people that neither Prince Bishops encroch vpon the right of prince and people nor people haue any commons in the election of Pastours Elders Deacons with them at all Besides if schisme and contention among the people were the reason why Bishops first entermedled in the choise of Pastours we now having no schisme nor contention about the choise of Pastours by the people and so the cause ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease But this effect is therefore still to be continued because otherwise the cause would a new sprout out and spring vp againe Nay rather inasmuch as for these many yeares we haue had schisme discord dissention because the Bishops wholy and altogether haue medled in the choise of Pastours and haue thrust vpon the people whatsoever Pastours please not the people but pleased themselves haue not suffered the people to medle no not so much as once to entermedle in these matters in as much I say as these things be so it seemeth most expediēt requisite necessarie for the appeasing pacifying of this discord the taking away of this schisme to haue that maner of election which was in the old Churches restored to the people and this wherein the Bishops haue entermedled without authoritie from the worde to be abolished that so againe the cause of schisme and strife which is now among vs ceasing the effect might likewise cease After I had ended this tract in this maner touching this poynt there came into mine handes a booke intituled The perpetuall gouernment of Christes church written by Thomas Bilson Warden of Winchester Colledge in the fifteenth chapter of which booke is handled this question viz to whom the election of Bishoppes and Presbiters doth rightlie belong and whether by Gods lawe the people must elect their Pastours or no. In whiche Chapter also the matter of schisme strife and contention is handled The finall scope and conclusion whereof is as the proposition importeth two fold First cōcerning Bishops then concerning Pastours The quarell taken against Bishoppes doth not so much touch sayth he the office and functions of Bishoppes as it doth the Princes prerogatiue When you rather thinke the Prince may not name her Bishoppes without the consent and election of the people you impugne nor vs but directlie call the Princes fact and her lawes in question As touching this poynt of the proposition because the people by any lawe or custome never chalenged anie right or interest in the choyse of the Kings Bishoppes we haue nothing to medle or to make about the choyse of any of his Kinglie Bishoppes The Kinge only hath power without the people to nominate his Kingly Bb. Nay we confesse as his Highnes progenitours Kings of England haue bin the Soveraigne Donours Founders Lords and Avowes of all the Bishoprickes in England without ayd of the people that so likewise it is a right and interest invested into his Imperiall Crowne that he onely his heyres successours without cōsent of the people ought to haue the free nomination appointment collation investiture and confirmation of all Bishoppes frō time to time to be placed in anie of those Bishoprickes yea we say further that the King alone hath not power onely to nominate collate confirme but also to
translate yea and if it please him to depose all his Kingly Bishoppes without anie cōsent of his people at all For say we eius est destruere cuius est construere eius est tollere cuius est condere Neither will we dislike but rather content our selues that our late Queenes Bishoppes if they shall finde fauour in the Kings eyes should be also the Kings Bishoppes condicionallie they submit them selues to the lawes prerogatiues of the Kings Crowne content themselues with the only name of Kinglie and Princelie Bishoppes not challenge anie more the titles of Godly and Christian Bishoppes as though without iniurie to the law of God and Gospell of our Savior Christ they could not be dispossessed of their Lordlie Bishoprickes And therefore our most humble prayer to the King is that his Maiestie would be pleased that such his Kingly Bishops may not henceforth overcrow and iustle our Gods Bishoppes nor haue any primacie over Gods Bishoppes And withall that the King him self would vouchsafe to hearken to the doctrine of such as are in deed Gods Bishoppes rather thē to the Counsel of those who lately were the Queenes Bishoppes As touching the second part viz. whether Mai. Bilson confirmeth the peoples election of their Pastour Pag. 339. the people by Gods lawe must elect their Pastours or no Maister Bilson by reasons and profes brought for the first vse of it rather confirmeth then impugneth the same For saith he Well may the peoples interest stande vppon the groūds of reason and nature and be deriued from the rules of Christian equitie and societie That each Church and people stand free by Gods law to admit mainteyne or obey no man as their Pastour without their likinge vnlesse by law custome or consent they haue restreyned them selues That the people 360. had as much right to choose their Pastour as the Clergie that had more skill to iudge That the Apostles left elections indifferenthe to the people Clergie at Ierusalem That the Apostles in the Actes when they willed the Church at Ierusalem to chose the seuen did not make anie remembrance or distinction of the seuentie Disciples from the rest And lastlie against the cursing fighsting of the late Bishoppes of Rome till 359. excluding both Prince and people from yeelding his consent or making their request they had reduced the election wholie to the Clergie he telleth them by their leaue it was not so from the beginning From all which sayinges of Maister 339. Bilson I conclude thus Whatsoeuer is right lawfull and free by the lawe of God whatsoeuer standeth vpon the groundes of reason and nature whatsoeuer is deriued frō Christian equity and society whatsoeuer is from the beginning and was left by the Apostles to the Church at Ierusalem the same ought still to remayne and must bee kept inviolable in the Church But the peoples interest to choose their Pastore is right is lawfull is free by the lawe of God standeth vppon the grounds of reason and nature is aeriued from Christian equity society is from the beginning and was left by the Apostles to the church at Ierusalem Therefore the peoples interest to choose their Pastoure ought still to remayne and must bee kept inuiolable in the Church The whole proposition and euery part thereof together with the assumpt and euery part thereof is drawen from Mr Bilsons owne confession Onely to the proposition hee hath annexed certeyne condicions or exceptions viz. Vnlesse by law custome or consent the people haue restreyned themselues or transferred or altered their right or els by their default or abuse the canons counsels superior powers princely or publicke lawes haue abridged altered or abrogated the same Now then it remayneth to know whether any consent default abuse custome canons counsels superiour powers publike or Princely Edicts may bee a good and sure warrant to abridge transferr or abrogate the peoples interest from hauing to doe in the choyse of their Pastours Our Sauiour Christ whē he came in the flesh he came to reforme the abuse crept in of the Law and to improue the corruptions of doctrine taught by the Scribes Pharisies and Doctors of the lawe but hee tooke not away any least title of the law ne abolished any iote of true sound doctrine in the Church The Gospell teacheth vs to order our iudgements aright to bridle the vnrulines of our affections to moderate our inordinate appetites But yet doth not the same commaund vs to empty our soules of all iudgement to bury our affections in our bellies and to become as dead as stones without all sense or appetite In like sort wee graunt that custome consent Canons Coūcills Superiour powers publick princely Laws Canons and coūsells c. may bridle disordered electiōs but not disannul elections of the people altogether may reforme reproue restreyne direct moderate and bridle the disordered vnrulines and contentious brawlinges of the people in and about their elections yea and wee graunt further that they may alter abridge or enlarge the forme and manner of elections All this wee graunt but that Christian Kings or any Superiour powers may take this right into their owne handes as hee sayeth from the people or that the people by anie lawe custome consent canon or coūcill may transferre or abolite their right freedome and interest giuen and deduced vnto them by these rules and by these groundes I do not yet perceiue anie good groūd or reason for the same For in so doing howe should the holy wisedome and providence of God who hath imprinted in our nature these rules and these grounds this equitie and this freedome be so holily regarded and so highly reverenced as it ought to be For hath he made vs free men and can wee without contempt of this grace become bondmen Hath he given vs leaue and libertie to choose shall we with prophane Esau sett litle by this our birth-right and post our libertie vnto others for lesse then a messe of wort pottage And albeit in some cases that may bee well saide quod volenti non fit iniuria and that quilibet potest recedere 〈◊〉 suo iure yet the cases must bee such as a mans willingnes and readines to forgoe his right bee not tyed to him with so strong a bande as is the bande of the groundes of reason and nature of the rules of Christian equitie of the freedome of the lawe of God It is free I graunt for a man to eate or not to eate to drinke or not to drink but for a man not to eate at all or not to drinke at all and so with hunger and thirst to sterue him selfe is not free and in this case volenti sit iniuria Euery man that hath a wife that hath sonnes and daughters that hath men-servantes and mayd-servantes as by the verie instinct of nature and by rhe equitie of the lawe of Christ he hath freedome to provide for them so must hee
became followers of the evill maners of their teachers and no merveile if they verified the proverbe Like Maister like Man like Priest like People Eustatius Bishop of Antioch being a Sabellian hereticke Socr. lib. cap â—8 was deposed by the Counsell of Antioch after whose deposition a fiery flame of seditioÌ„ was kindled in Antioch because one sort of the common people sought to translate Eusebius Pamphilus from Caesarea to Antioch some other would bring againe Eustatius Eusebius Bishop of Nicomedia and Theognis Bishop of Nice beeing both Arians with their coÌ„federates raised skirmishes Socr. lib. 2. cap. 2. and tumults against Athanasius After the death of Alexander Bishop op Constantinople about the electioÌ„ of a Bishop there was greater sturre then ever before time and the Church was more greevously turmoyled The people were devided into two parts the one egerlie set with the heresie of Arius claue to Macedonius the other cleaved very coÌ„stantlie Socr. lib. 2 cap. 4. to the decrees of the Nicene Counsell and choose Paulus to bee their Bishop The cause of division among the Citizens of Emisa about the election of Eusebius Emisenus was for that he was Socr. lib. 2. cap. 6 charged with the studie of the Mathematickes and accused of the heresie of Sabellius After the death of Eusebius when the people of Constantinople had brought againe Paulus to be their Bishop the Arians chose Macedonius The authours and chiefe doers in that sturre were certaine Arian Bishops who before ayded Eusebius that turned vp Socr. lib. cap. 9. side down the whole state of the church These and sundry such like sturres discords factions dissentions are found to haue bin raised pursued by schismaticall and heretical Bishops their favourites followers in the olde Churches but that these or the like mischieves and inconveniences can be proved to haue fallen out by the election of parochiall Pastours in the olde churches we deny And why then should not the interest and freedome of faithfull Christian people wrested from them by cursings and fightings of faithlesse and antichristian Popes be restored to them againe And the cause ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease And therefore we humbly intreate the Lords Bishops that against the grounds of reason and nature against Christian equitie A request to the reuerend Bishoppes and society against the right freedome of the lawe of God against the principles of humaine fellowshippes against that which was in the beginning and against that which the Apostles left in the Churches by colour of lawes brought into the Church by the cursings and fightings of the late Romane Bishops they would not hencefoorth barre seclude the Kings Christian and faithfull people from giving their consents vnto their Pastours Yea and we further beseech their Lordships that as schollers vnto the Apostles and as servants vnto the olde way of reason of nature of the law of God of the equitie of Christ and of humane societie they would hereafter imbrace that way which was from the beginning which is the old way and the best way and not any loÌ„ger persist in a cursed and quareling way which is the new way and the worst way But if the Lordes spirituall A supplication to bee King by the Lords and commoÌ„s for the restitution of their right in the choyse of their Pastors of their owne accord shall not readily voutchsafe to yeelde vnto vs this our right at our intreaty then for my part I will briefly shew mine opinion what were expedient for the Lords and commons in open Parleament dutifully to pray and to supplicate at the Kings Maiestes hande Namely At the humble petitions and supplications of all his Lords temporall and Commons in Parleament assembled his Maiestie would be well pleased to giue his Royall assent to an Act to be intituled An Act for the restitution of the auncient right and freedome which the people of God in the old Churches had and which the people in England ought to haue in to or about the election of their Pastours and abolishing all papall power repugnant to the same For if as it is plainlie confessed the people of all Churches haue right and freedome by the law of God by the equitie of Christ by the grounds of reason and nature by the principles of humane fellowshipps and by that which was from the beginning to elect their Pastours and if also the same right and freedome being left to the old churches and especially to the Church at Ierusalem by the Apostles haue bene taken away by the cursings and fightings of the late Bishoppes of Rome then can not the people without violatioÌ„ of those lawes rules grouÌ„ds by any Episcopall power bee anie more excluded from their said right and freedome then could or might the ancient iurisdiction of the Crowne of England haue bene still vsurped by the Pope froÌ„ the Kings of Englande Admonition But alas the common people of Englande thorough affection and want of right iudgement are more easily wrought by ambitious persons to giue their consent to vnworthie men as may appeare in all those offices of gayne or dignity that at this daye remayne in the choyse of the multitude Assertion The Admonitor in one place of his admonition telleth vs that he must not put all that he thinketh in writing and yet he writeth in this place that thinge which might farre better haue bene vtterly vnthought then once written For could he thinke to winne the common people of England to a continuall good liking of high and stately Prelacie by vpbrayding and charging them to their faces in a booke dedicated vnto them with affection and wantinge of right iugement Was this the way to procure grace favour and benevolence at their handes And albeit this slaunder deserued rather to haue bene censured by the Commons in Parleament then by confutation to haue bene answered yet for the better clearing of the right iudgement of the common people givinge their consents to most worthie men in all offices of gayne or dignitie remayning in their handes I thinke it necessarie to shew the indignitie of this contumelie There be I confesse in London Yorke Lincolne Bristow Exceter Norwich Coventry and other principall Cities and Townes corporate Mayors Sheriffes Stewardes Recorders Baylifes ChaÌ„berlaynes Bridge-maisters Clerks Swordbearers Knightes Burgeses and such like offices some of dignitie and some of gayne but that the officers of these or any other places whether of dignitie or gaine be chosen by the multitude of those places is vtterlie vntrue for onely accordinge to their auncient customes priviledges and Charters by the chiefe Citizens Townsmen and Borough-maisters are those officers chosen The number also of which Electors in all places is not alike In London the Aldermen choose the Lord Mayor In other Cities and Townes sometimes eight and fortie sometimes fourteene sometimes twelfe sometimes only such as haue born office as Mayors Sherifes or Baylifes in the same places
the presentation to haue bin first made vpon corrupt respect and consideration And that therefore the Clerke ipso facto to loose the benefice and the Patrone ipso facto to forfeyte his right of patronage to the King for the two next turnes following And these being the principall reasons and groundes of our desires we are humbly to pray the Lordes spirituall either to convince them of indignitie insufficiencie and incongruitie or else to ioyne with vs vnto the Kinges Maiestie for the restitution of that maner of governement which they themselues confesse to haue bene practised at the beginning by the Apostles primitiue Church but the Admonitor hath yet moe reasons vnanswered against this platforme Admonition That euerie Parish in Englande may haue a learned discrete Minister howsoeuer they dreame of perfection no man is able in these days to deuise how to bring it to passe and especially when by this change of the Clergy the great rewards of learning shall bee taken away and men therby discouraged to bring vpp their children in the study of good letters Assertion In some part to iustifie this opinion I graunt that no man is able in these dayes to devise to bring it to passe that every Parish should haue a learned and discrete Minister And why because in these dayes not any one Bishop hath afforded to ordeyne one learned and discrete Minister for fiue Parishes secondlie because where some of the reverend Fathers haue ordayned and placed in many Parishes many learned and discrete Ministers some others of the same Fathers haue againe disgraded and displaced those learned and discrete Ministers in their romes haue placed manie vnlearned and vndiscreet Ministers Now then if these dayes wherein so few learned discrete Ministers so many vnlearned vndiscreet Ministers be ordeyned wherin also so many learned discreet Ministers are disgraced so many vndiscreet vnlearned Ministers graced If these daies I say were ended then albeit no perfection whereof never any one of vs dreamed could bee atteyned vnto and albeit no one man were able to devise how to bring it to passe that every Parish should haue a learned Minister Yet nevertheles all good and holy meanes being vsed to ayme and to shoote after perfection all good and holy men laying to their heads and applying their hearts to further this enterprise and service vnto God wee knowe that the Lord might call and make and fill with the Spirit of God in wisedome and in vnderstanding and in knowlege and in spirituall work-manship many Bezaliels and many Aholiabs spirituallie to karue graue and imbroyder the Lords spirituall Temple The perfection therefore after which we long and the change of the Clergie whereof we intreate is but such a perfection and such a change as good meanes for the restitution of impropriations beeing vsed may easily bee atteyned and well made What perfection of a Minister is required by this platforme For the perfection required by vs to be in a Minister is none other then such as the holy law of God and the lawes canons and iniunctions already setled doe require viz. that every Minister to whō cure of soules is committed with some competent knowlege according to the measure of the grace of the gift of Christ be able to teach to exhort and to reproue the people yea and to convince the gainesayers if any should arise among them From whence also springeth the change intended by vs. viz. that in the Churches of all Ministers vnable to teach c. There might bee a change of Ministers able to teach c. Wherefore if the Admonitour ment otherwise then wee intend and if vppon placing a learned and discrete Minister in every Parish hee should not intende the change of an vnlearned and vndiscreet Clergie but a change of the high and Papall state of Prelacie then either is not his aunswere pertinent to the question or else it must necessarily follow from his intendemēt that the high and Papall state of Prelacie and the placing of a learned and Prelacy a learned Ministery can not stād together discrete Minister in every Parish are like vnto Coleworts planted among Vines or vnto Parsly sowed among Bishoppes Weede which will never spring grow and prosper together Because the rising of such a learned Ministerie must be the fall ruine and break necke of Prelacy And this followeth inevitable vpon his owne reason drawen from the taking away of the great rewardes of learning by the change of the Clergie For the great rewardes of learninge whereof he speaketh must of necessitie be the Prelacies viz. Archbishoprickes Bishopricks Deanries Archdeaconries Prebendaries Canonries Chanterships Commendames non Residencies and Pluralities And then lett vs obserue whether in effect hee hath not reasoned thus If Prelacies beeing the great rewardes of learning should not stand not be changed there is no man able to devise how a learned and discreet Minister may be placed in euery parish but if Prelacies the great rewardes of learning may once be chāged not stand then were it possible to haue it deuised that a learned and discreete Minister might bee placed in euery parishe And then hath he not profoundlie and learnedlie disputed when he hath preferred the Damsell before her Dame and the mayd before her Mistris When he hath aduaunced a great deale of learninge in one before a great deale of learninge in many and learning in some places before learning in all places lastlie when by continuance and furtherance of the great rewards of learning he hath greatlie hindered discōtinued learnednes and greatly furthered and cōtinued vnlearnednes For if Prelacies were no hinderances but only furtherances of discreet and learned Ministers and agayne if Prelacies were no furtherances but onlie hinderances of vnlearned vndiscreet ministers to be had in every parish then might the great rewardes of learning still remayne and men should not be discouraged to send their sonnes to the studie of good learning For generallie mē be not so much incouraged to set their sonnes to learninge where a few great rewardes of learning are provided for a few men greatly learned as where many good rewardes of learning are provided for many good learned mē are more encouraged to learning where many good rewardes then where fewe great rewards are provided men And to speake as experience teacheth vs and as the trueth is what one father among twentie will dedicate his sonne to learning if men as the case now stādeth vnder Prelacie not broght vp at the feete of Gamaliel but at the feete of some swashbuckler not taught from any Doctors chayre but schooled vpon some craftes man stoole when mē who can but read and can not preache may be Ministers capable of the fattest benefice within a whole Countie In the common weale if there be manie places of honor profite dignitie for such onlie as haue valiantly served the King in his warres or
venerabilis viri domini Archidiaconi Surr. omnibus singulis rectoribus c. salutem Cùm nos rite legitime procedentes omnes singulos quorum nomina c. in noÌ„ comparendo coram nobis c. seu saltem in non satisfaciendo mandatis nostris c. pronunciaverimus contumaces ipsosque c. excommunicandos fore decreverimus Cumque discretus vir magister Roul Allen presbyter eosdeÌ„ omnes singulos subscriptos ex officio nostro excommunicaverit in scriptis iusticia id exigente vobis igitur committimus c. quatenus eos omnes c. sicut prefertur ex officio nostro mero excoÌ„municatos fuisse esse c. palam denuncietis c. Datum sub sigillo officialitatis nostrae 19. die Decembris Anno Domini 1587. John Hone Doctor of the Lawes Officiall of the venerable man the Archdeacon of Surr. to all and singular persons c. greeting Whereas we otherwise rightlie and lawfully proceeding all and singular whose naâ—â—s are vnderwritten in not appearing before vs or at least-wise in not satisfying our mandates haue pronounced contumacious and decreed them to be excoÌ„municated And whereas also the discrete man M. Rouland Allen presbyter out of our office hath excoÌ„municated all and singuler vnder written iustice so requiringe wherefore wee charge you that openlie you denounce and declare them everie of them so as aforesayd out of our office to be excoÌ„municated Giuen vnder the seale of our officialitie The 19. day of December 1587. By this practise it doth appeare that Doctor Hone and Rouland Allen canvased manie poore men verie piteouslie And that this poore curate Rouland Allen had a warme seruice to attend vpon Doctor Hone and to ierk those whose points soeuer hee should vntie But because this precept was an article concluded vpon by the reuerend Bishopps in their convocation and confirmed as I suppose by the Royall authoritie of our late Queene wee will forbeare to speake what we thinke might iustlie be spoken against the incoÌ„gruitie therof Onely this without offence to the reuerend Bishoppes wee may safely demaund sithence everie ordinarie whether he be a Bishopp or a presbyter by this article of their owne devise hath such an absolute power resiant in his person as that thereby thoroughout his whole iurisdiction he may thus coÌ„mit the execution of discipline by excommunication partlie to one laie person and partlie to one ecclesiastical person partly to a supposed spiritual Elder and partlie to a lay Elder sithence I say this is so we may safelie demande what reason they can produce to hinder the King from having authoritie to coÌ„mande three or foâ—re or if occasion The Kinge hathas good right to coÌ„mand excoÌ„munication to bee exercised by a Pastor and Elders as the Bb. haue to commit the same to a Curate and one lay Elder serue fiue or six lay Elders as they call them and one spirituall Pastor being a true spirituall Elder in deede all lawfullie chosen ecclesiasticall Officers in the house of God that they ioyntly should not execute the discipline of Christ viz. excommunication and other censures of the church in every Parish within his Kingdome If it bee aunswered that in this case the Presbyter alone doth excoÌ„municate is it not as if one should say that the executioner doth giue iudgmeÌ„t when at the coÌ„mandment of the Iudge he smiteth of the head or casteth downe the ladder or may not as much be said for the excommunication whereof wee speake that the Pastor onlie should excommunicate when by vertue of his office with the consent and not by the prescript of the Elders associated vnto him he should declare and pronounce the partie to be excommunicated But let it bee graunted that Rouland Allen denounceth the lesson which is writteÌ„ in the paper for him to read yet is it cleare by the precept that the same must bee done by the prescript of Doctor Hone. Besides Doctor Hone he citeth he precognizateth the parties and they being absent he pronounceth them contumaciter absentes and in paenam contumaciarum suarum huiusmodi decreeth them to be excoÌ„municate and are not al these necessarie partes incident to the execution of discipline by excommunication And how then can the Minister be saide to excommunicate alone when Doctor Hone of necessitie must play three parts of the foure without all or without any one of which parts the excommunication by reason of a nullitie is merelie voide Againe the acte being done as it were vno puncto at vno halitu and Rouland Allen and Doctor Hone having their commission from the Archdeacon in solidum how can their iudgement be devided Furthermore to say that Rouland Allen doth excommunicate by the authoritie of Doct. Hone were to overthrowe the intendement of the article Because by the scope of the article it is plaine that the Presbyter to be associated to the officiall must onlie derive his authoritie from one who hath taken ecclesiasticall orders But those orders Doctour Hone never tooke otherwise Rouland Allens presence had bene vnnecessarie and superfluous And therefore if the excommunication be of any validitie theÌ„ is discipline by excommunication in the Church of England exercised partlie by one laie Elder as they call him and partly by one Ecclesiasticall Elder wherein againe it is worthy the observation for the matter we haue in hand that Doctor Hone a mere laie temporall man hath authoritie from the Archdeacon to call and associate vnto him to prescribe Roul Allen a Presbiter an other mans hireling Curate in Southwark to excoÌ„municate not only the Parochians of an other Pastors charge but also any other Pastor whatsoever subiect to the Archdeacons iurisdiction And hath not the Kings Highnesse then as good right as great a priviledge and as high a prerogative to command Maister Doctor Andros or Maister Doctor King and lay Elders by a lawfull election to be associated vnto either of them to excommunicate either of their owne Parishioners for publike drunkennes or other notorious sinnes committed in their owne Parish For if it bee lawfull at the voice of a lay stranger that an hireling and stipendary Curate should chase an other mans sheepe out of his owne folde how much more is it lawful that a true sheepherde should disciplinate his own sheepe feeding and couchant within his owne pasture and within his owne fold Furthermore touching the admittance of governing Elders or lay Elders as they call them vnto the Minister of everie congregation according to the former patterne of one lay Elder that the same is not a matter so strange for lay men to bee ioyned in this charge of ecclesiasticall government as the opposites Lay men appointed by the Queenes iniuuctions to execute some part of discipline beare vs in hande to be it shall not be amisse to cal vnto their remeÌ„brances one of our late Soveraigne the Queenes iniuctions wherby certeyne lay persons called overseers were commanded to be chosen by
Archbishop of Canterburie cā haue over nine thirtie or fortie thē me thinketh it a matter very reasonablie of them to bee confessed that all true Pastors whether they bee great Pastors or litle Pastors may lawfullie exercise all maner of such true power spirituall as vnto true spirituall Pastors by the holie scriptures doeth apperteyne For if Bishops being great Pastours may therefore preach minister the Sacraments because they be as they say true Pastors thē also may litle Pastors therfore excommunicate because they bee as the scripture saith true Bishoppes Wherefore if the L. Bishopp of London by vertue of his Pastorall office as hee thinketh which with his brethren the other Pastors of his Diocesse he hath in commō deriveth vnto him immediatlie from the word of God may lawfullie excōmunicate then the pastorall office which Maister Doctor Androes hath ouer the people of his Parish of St. Gyles without Creeplegate and the pastorall function which Maister Doctor Whyte hath ouer the people of St. Dunstones within Temple-barre beeing as absolutelie as immediatlie deduced vnto them out of the same word what profe can be made out of the worde that the Bishoppe being not Lord Pastour of the Pastours of his Diocesse may lawfullie by the worde excommunicate all maner of offendors both Pastors and people within his Diocesse and yet neuertheles that neither Maister Doctor Androes nor Maister Doctor Whyte by the same worde may excommunicate any one of their Parishioners at all Nay further what reason can there be afforded from the law of God that Maister D. Abbot Deane of Winchester that Ma. Browne Maister Barlowe and diuers other prebendaries in the church of Winchester hauing certeyne parochiall and pastorall churches annexed to his and their Deanrie and Prebendes and Maister D. Grey in his parish by their pastorall functions should haue absolute authoritie vnlesse it bee during the time of the L. Bishoppes trienniall visitation to exercise the discipline of Christ within their seuerall and peculier churches and yet notwithstanding that neyther Maister Richman nor Mai. Burden being both of them graue godlie learned Pastors should haue at any time anie pastorall authoritie to exercise any censure at all And as it is in the church of Winchester so is it in the church of Paules in the church of Salisburie in well nigh all if not in all the Cathedrall Collegiall Churches thoroughout the Realme The Deane Prebendaries and Canons hauing certayne parochiall Churches exempted from the Bishopp within their exempt and peculier iurisdictions by mere Pastorall authoritie for episcopal authoritie by the lawes of the Church haue they none may exercise all maner of spirituall censures and that aswell by their substitutes as by them selues Nay which is more in Cheshire Lancashire Rurall Deanes in Cheshire c. vse some part of episcopall power Yorkeshire Richmondshire and other Northeren parts there be manie whole Deanries exempted from the Bishopps iurisdiction wherein the Deanes and their substitutes haue not onlie the probate of Wills and graunting of administrations but also the cognisance of ecclesiasticall crimes with power to vse the ecclesiasticall censures Yea and this authoritie of the executiō of ecclesiasticall censures haue those Deanes either long since by some papall priviledges Episcopall power to excōmunicate graunted by papall priuiledges or prescribed vse obteyned or els by long vse prescribed against the Bishopps Whereby againe it is clerelie convinced that Episcopall excommunication vsed in the Church of England is not of divine institution but onlie by humane tradition For were it of diuine right then could the same Power to excommunicate if it be of diuine right may not be prescribed no more bee prescribed or by papall immunitie be possessed thē could these Deanes prescribe power or bee enfranchised to preach the word or to administer the Sacramentes These things haue we thus at large more fullie intreated of to the end that the Kings Highnes and his Parleament and all sortes of people might well vnderstand howe it is not altogether an vnvsual and vnaccustomed thing in the Church of England that private inferiour ministers as they call them in their owne right and in their owne parochiall parishes without any authoritie from the Bishoppe should exercise even the highest censure of the Church And that in sundry places of the Realm there is no preeminence in the matter of the execution of the censures attributed to a Bb. aboue a Minister Nay whiche is more then is attributed to a Bb. aboue a No more preheminēce given to a Bb then to a Minister or to a lay man in some places for the vse of excōmunication lay man yea then to such a lay man who is authorized onlie by a lay man to his office Which is evident by the ecclesiasticall iurisdiction and censures exercised a long time by lay men in the peculiar iurisdictions of Newton Gronbie Anstic Soke of Rothelie Evington and other parishes hamlettes in the Countie of Leycester The officers of al which places for their spirituall authoritie having not had any other warrant then such only as hath bin signed sometimes vnder the hande and seale of the right Honorable the Earle of Huntingdon deceased sometimes of the Honorable Sir Henrie Grey knight sometimes of Henrie Skipwith Esquire and sometimes of others For the avoyding therefore of sundrie intollerable inconveniences whiche hitherto hath ensued for want of that authoritie which the Law setled doth enable every Minister with It is most expedient that all humane authoritie in the execution of spirituall censures bee vtterlie taken away and that the divine and Evangelicall censures of Christ bee ministred in every Congregation where learned and godly pastors with discrete Elders may bee had as from the minde of the Lord they were executed in the Apostolicall and primitiue church I had almost forgotten to speake of one common and vsuall kinde of iurisdiction spirituall in the vse of the censures of the church by the Archb. which in cases of their prerogatiue they haue prescribed against the Bb. over the presbyters and people of euery Bishoppes Diocesse and Archdeacons iurisdiction within their provinces of one other cōmon and vsuall kinde of pretensed spirituall iurisdiction and vse of the censures which the Archb. and sometimes the Deane and Chapiter sede Archiepiscopali or sede Episcopali vacante exercise and lastly of that spirituall kinde of iurisdiction censures so called of the Church whiche Suffraganes and Archdeacons haue and do vse As touching which supposed spirituall power both of the Archbishopps Archdeacons because the same their power doth only belong vnto thē iure consuetudinario non scripto by vnwritten and not by written lawe I must conclude against the iurisdiction of the Archbishopps prerogatiue and against the Archdeacons iurisdictiō in all cases as out of St. Cyprian King Henry the eight concluded against the Pope viz That their authorities can not be from Christ Because Christ saide
ego sum via veritas vita He neuer said ego sum consuetudo Touching the iurisdiction of the Deane and Chapter the papall lawe being abrogated how the same may lawefullie now bee vsed otherwise then by sufferance and consent of the King and Realme I know not But of all spirituall authoritie exercised at this day in the Church of England the same semeth to draw most neare to the semblance of the gouernment practised by the Apostles and primitiue Church And might bee approued in many points if so bee the Deane and Chapter being as it were a Senate of preaching Elders did no more commit the execution of their ecclesiasticall iurisdiction to the wisedome of one Vicar general or principall official then they doe put over the leassing of their Landes or dividētes of their rentes to the onlie discretion of one of their Baylifes or Stewardes As for Bishoppes Suffraganes in Englande and in Wales how many there may be and what Cities and Townes are to be taken and accepted for their Seas it is at large expressed in a statute made for the nomination of Suffraganes By which statute also wee are given to vnderstand that it remayneth onely in the disposition and libertie of everie Archbishop Bishop within this Realm c. to name and elect two honest and discrete spirituall persons being learned of good conversation and them to present vnto the Kinge by their writing vnder their Seales making humble request to giue to one such of the saide two persons as shal please his Maiestie such title name stile dignitie of Bishop of such Seas specified in the said act as the Kings Highnes shall think most cōvenient for the same so it bee within the same Province whereof the Bb. that doth name him is Besides after such title stile and name given by the Kinge it is saide that the King shall present every such person by his letters patentes vnder his great Seale to the Archbishop of the same Province wherein the Towne whereof hee hath his title name stile and dignitie of Bishop and that the Archbishop shall giue him all such consecrations benedictions and ceremonies as to the degree and office of a Bishopps Suffragane shall be requisite It is further enacted provided that every person nominated elected presented and consecrated according to that acte shall be taken accepted and reputed in all degrees places according to the stile title name dignitie that he shall be presented vnto haue such capacitie power and authoritie honor preeminence reputation in as large ample maner in cōcerning the executiō of such cōmission as by any of the saide Archb. or Bb. within their Diocesse shall be given to the saide Suffragane as to Suffraganes of this Realm hertofore hath bin vsed accustomed And that no Suffr made cōsecrated by vertue of this act shall take or receiue any maner of profits of the places Seas wherof they shall be named nor vse haue or execute any iurisdiction or Episcopall power or authoritie within their said Seas c. but only such profites iurisdiction authoritie as shall be licensed and limited vnto them to take do and execute by any Archbishopp or Bb. within their Diocesse to whom they shall be Suffraganes vnder their seales And that no such Suffragane shall vse any iurisdiction ordinarie or Episcopall power otherwise nor longer time then shall be limited by such commission to him giuen vpon peyne c. From which Act touching the vse exercise of Episcopall power and censures by the Suffragane we may againe safely conclude that the Episcopall power graunted by the Bishops to be vsed by the Suffragane is not of diuine right and institution but only from humane devise and ordinance For the Suffragan could not exercise any power called spirituall or Episcopall vnles by the Bb. he were nominated by the King elected and presented by the Archb. consecrated and by commission vnder the Bb. seale authorized in what maner and for what time he should exercise the same Custome then being not from heauen but from the earth and againe the Bb. commissiō limiting the Suffraganes delegated power being of man and not of God it followeth necessarilie that that Episcopall power which the Bishoppes vse and exercise in England can not be diuine but humane Because Episcopall authoritie which is diuine being conveyed from the Royall and Souerayne authoritie of our Sauiour Christ the giuer of all power vnto euerie officer within his Church can not be transferred to any other person by the same Bb. by the King by the bodie of the state or by custome For the Kings person and bodie of the state not being made capable by the holie scriptures to vse and exercise that Episcopall power which is of diuine institutiō can neuer transferre the same to others whereof they be thē selues vncapable And to defende that custome or any municipall lawe should transferre diuine Episcopal power from a divine Bishopp to any humane officer is more erroneous And from hence if the now L. Bb. of London iudge his Episcopall power to belong vnto him by divine and that by the same right he haue power aswell to ordeyne depose suspend and excommunicate presbyters as to confirme boyes girles yong men maydens there seemeth to bee good reason that the same Bb. should make it apparantly knowne vnto the King Realm by what power or commission descended from heaven hee may delegate vnder his Seale the same his divine authoritie of ordination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation vnto Doctour Sterne his now Suffragane of Colchester For if from the holy Scriptures hee can produce no warrant for the making of a delegation of any part of that Episcopal power which he holdeth to be cōmitted vnto him frō our Savior Christ then well may we conclude against the ordination deposition suspention excommunication confirmation made by the same his Suffragane that the same his Suffraganes ordination deposition c. is not divine For how can an ordination a deposition c. made by a Suffragane be divine when as the commission graunted by the Bishop is meerlie humane Wherefore seeing the Bishop himself hath plucked certeyne of his principall feathers from his own spirituall winges if so be his owne winges may be spirituall and imped them with an vntwysted thread of humane policie to the humane trayne of his Suffragane and seeing also his Archbishoppes grace of Canterburie in cases of his metropoliticall prerogatiue the Archdeacons London Midlesex Essex Hertforde the Deane of Paules and certeyne prebendaries in Paules the Deane of Westminster the Maister of the Savoy and divers other Persons haue by Papall privileges or by auncient custome prescribed almost all other partes of his Episcopall power there seemeth good reason that the Bishoppe should againe declare whether the Churches within the saide Diocesse after the decease or translation of his Lordshippe shall stande in neede of any Lordlie Successour to sitt