Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	apostle_n	call_v	evangelist_n	3,049	5	9.9516	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66932	A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ...	Wood, James, 1608-1664.	1654 (1654)	Wing W3399; ESTC R206983	330,782	402

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have_v see_v and_o read_v gul._n apolon_n consideration_n of_o certain_a controversy_n etc._n etc._n s●nt_n to_o the_o assembly_n at_o westminster_n 1644._o spanhems_n epistle_n to_o m●_n buchana●_n mr._n rutherfurd_n his_o fi●st_n and_o second_o book_n against_o the_o independent_a way_n however_o he_o may_v have_v read_v they_o and_o find_v therein_o beside_o other_o writing_n of_o orthodox_n divine_v some_o other_o argument_n to_o answer_v well_o because_o he_o have_v think_v it_o fit_a to_o content_v himself_o with_o these_o two_o which_o yet_o how_o he_o have_v satisfy_v we_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o intelligent_a reader_n to_o judge_v we_o shall_v add_v some_o few_o more_o not_o trouble_v ourselves_o nor_o the_o reader_n with_o repetition_n of_o all_o that_o have_v be_v say_v by_o other_o section_n 2_o arg._n 1._o if_o moses_n do_v admit_v as_o member_n into_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n under_o the_o old_a test_n man_n profess_v the_o true_a god_n of_o israel_n the_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o his_o true_a worship_n without_o enquiry_n for_o the_o work_n of_o true_a grace_n in_o their_o heart_n or_o positive_a evidence_n that_o they_o be_v true_o convert_v regenerate_a and_o gracious_a so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v discern_v and_o judge_v yea_o know_v assure_o that_o many_o of_o they_o be_v as_o yet_o unconvert_v and_o hard_a heart_a item_n if_o john_n the_o baptist_n the_o apostle_n and_o the_o master_n builder_n and_o lord_n of_o the_o church_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o do_v admit_v into_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o new_a test_n such_o as_o do_v profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o do_v profess_v without_o delay_n for_o try_v and_o search_v evidence_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o their_o heart_n then_o in_o all_o church_n person_n ought_v to_o be_v admit_v upon_o the_o same_o term_n and_o it_o be_v not_o a_o necessary_a qualification_n in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la for_o constitute_v one_o capable_a of_o visible-church-membership_n that_o he_o be_v true_o convert_v such_o as_o god_n who_o know_v the_o heart_n of_o all_o man_n can_v bear_v witness_n to_o as_o indeed_o seal_v for_o his_o by_o his_o spirit_n so_o far_o as_o man_n true_o convert_v and_o very_o spiritual_a be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o discern_v and_o judge_v but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a in_o all_o the_o part_n thereof_o ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n section_n 3_o as_o to_o the_o consequence_n or_o connexion_n of_o the_o proposition_n it_o be_v likely_a mr._n locky_a will_n not_o acknowledge_v it_o upon_o the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o antecedent_n viz._n the_o manner_n and_o ground_n of_o admit_v member_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n because_o his_o judgement_n as_o seem_v be_v that_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o new_a test_n in_o this_o point_n be_v essential_o different_a from_o that_o of_o the_o old_a for_o he_o restrict_v his_o thesis_n concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n to_o the_o day●…_n of_o the_o gospel_n not_o once_o which_o to_o i_o smell_v ●…nk_v of_o anabaptist_n who_o as_o we_o know_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n upon_o this_o ground_n because_o they_o can_v give_v evidence_n of_o faith_n be_v press_v with_o the_o argument_n take_v from_o infant_n church-membership_n and_o seal_v with_o the_o initiate_a sacrament_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o eschew_v if_o they_o can_v the_o dint_n of_o that_o argument_n do_v run_v upon_o the_o assertion_n of_o a_o essential_a difference_n between_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o one_o church_n and_o of_o the_o other_o and_o so_o deaye_v the_o consequence_n from_o practice_n in_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o as_o we_o see_v mr._n tomb_n do_v in_o his_o dispute_n with_o mr._n baxter_n i_o will_v not_o think_v that_o mr_n locky_a do_v run_v the_o anabaptist_n length_n in_o make_v use_n of_o that_o difference_n bu●_n certai●…_n if_o he_o assert_v as_o he_o seem_v to_o do_v a_o essential_a difference_n 〈…〉_o one_o and_o the_o other_o he_o for_o his_o part_n give_v they_o a_o fair_a ground_n 〈…〉_o that_o argument_n use_v by_o all_o orthodox_n divine_v for_o infant_n bap●…e_n but_o the_o orthodox_n have_v solide_o assert_v and_o maintain_v that_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o old_a test_n and_o new_a differ_v not_o in_o essentials_n but_o in_o accidental_n only_o if_o our_o author_n be_v otherwise_o mind_v i_o desi●…_n he_o to_o ponder_v and_o answer_v what_o the_o learned_a and_o acute_a divine_a mr._n baxter_n have_v on_o that_o purpose_n in_o his_o dispute_n against_o tomb_n pag._n 30_o 31_o 32_o 33_o 34_o 35_o 36._o and_o i_o will_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n suppose_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o orthodox_n divine_v the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n even_o upon_o that_o first_o part_n of_o the_o antecedent_n to_o be_v valide_fw-la section_n 4_o as_o to_o the_o consequence_n 〈◊〉_d the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o an●…cedent_n viz._n the_o practice_n of_o john_n the_o baptist_n the_o apostle_n and_o of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o under_o the_o new_a test_n admit_v person_n to_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n upon_o their_o first_o profess_v faith_n and_o subjection_n to_o the_o ordi●…nces_n without_o any_o delay_n of_o time_n for_o try_v the_o sincerity_n ●…d_v ●rut●_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o the_o heart_n i_o know_v what_o use_v to_o be_v except_v against_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o consequence_n there_o deduce_v from_o it_o viz._n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v man_n indu●…_n with_o a_o eminent_a gift_n of_o discern_v and_o therefore_o although_o th●_n 〈◊〉_d admit_v man_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o make_v profession_n without_o further_o deny_v or_o trial_n yet_o that_o they_o do_v this_o as_o

appendix_n for_o the_o present_a what_o we_o have_v say_v be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o john_n baptize_v such_o as_o come_v to_o he_o upon_o th●_n 〈◊〉_d profession_n without_o any_o delay_n of_o time_n or_o wait_v for_o trial_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o their_o save_a conversion_n section_n 11_o in_o like_a manner_n find_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n admit_v to_o baptism_n person_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o make_v profession_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n without_o delay_n ●or_a trial_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o grace_n in_o their_o heart_n as_o act_n 2._o 38._o 41._o we_o read_v they_o baptize_v and_o so_o add_v to_o the_o church_n three_o thousand_o that_o same_o day_n that_o they_o first_o profess_v without_o delay_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o so_o much_o as_o one_o day_n when_o as_o so_o great_a a_o number_n may_v excuse_v the_o delay_n if_o they_o will_v have_v take_v long_o time_n to_o the_o bu●…nesse_n and_o certain_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o conversion_n of_o these_o man_n be_v so_o sudden_a one_o will_v think_v 〈◊〉_d apostle_n will_v have_v wait_v for_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n of_o their_o sincerity_n if_o so_o be_v such_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n have_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n necessary_a to_o go_v before_o the_o admission_n of_o man_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o act_v and_o direct_v the_o apostle_n do_v dictate_v they_o no_o such_o thing_n in_o like_a manner_n the_o samarit●…_n man_n and_o woman_n be_v baptize_v without_o any_o delay_n act_v 8._o 1●_n so_o simon_n at_o that_o same_o tim●_n albeit_o to_o that_o very_a day_n he_o have_v be_v a_o sorcerer_n dement_v that_o people_n with_o his_o devilish_a enchantment_n and_o with_o sacrilegious_a impiety_n give_v himself_o out_o as_o the_o great_a pow●…_n of_o god_n yet_o as_o soon_o as_o be_v convince_v by_o th●_n sight_n of_o miracle_n he_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n be_v baptize_v by_o philip._n final_o whosoever_o be_v baptize_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o we_o read_v of_o be_v baptize_v after_o this_o same_o manner_n nor_o can_v there_o be_v give_v from_o scripture_n so_o much_o as_o one_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o profess●…g_v the_o faith_n and_o desire_v the_o communion_n of_o th●_n church_n be_v refuse_v baptism_n for_o a_o time_n until_o he_o shall_v give_v a_o trial_n and_o evidence_n of_o the_o si●…erity_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o his_o heart_n section_n 12_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostl●…_n add_v the_o practice_n of_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o it_o be_v worthy_a of_o observation_n say_v mr._n baxter_n well_o against_o tomb_n pag._n 127._o that_o it_o be_v say_v john_n 3._o 26._o he_o baptize_v viz._n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o disciple_n and_o all_o man_n come_v unto_o he_o whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o baptize_v man_n present_o and_o without_o delay_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o come_v and_o profess_v themselves_o his_o disciple_n shall_v we_o then_o miserable_a man_n not_o content_a with_o our_o lord_n example_n take_v upon_o we_o to_o be_v more_o severe_a and_o exact_a in_o his_o matter_n then_o himself_o very_o i_o can_v look_v upon_o this_o too_o great_a diligence_n but_o as_o a_o counsel_n of_o man_n pride_n shuffle_n itself_o in_o under_o a_o mask_n of_o purity_n ●…d_v accuracy_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o god_n section_n 13_o what_o further_o may_v be_v except_v against_o this_o argument_n build_v upon_o that_o ground_n whereon_o as_o a_o sufficient_a qualification_n christ_n his_o apostle_n and_o john_n baptist_n admit_v person_n to_o baptism_n i_o know_v not_o unless_o some_o haply_o will_v say_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o reverend_a hooker_n contend_v in_o a_o large_a dispute_n suru._n p._n 1._o c._n 4._o pag._n 55._o &_o seq_fw-la and_o that_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n and_o to_o be_v admit_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o that_o more_o may_v be_v require_v as_o a_o necessary_a antecedent_n qualification_n to_o this_o then_o be_v to_o that_o but_o as_o to_o this_o exception_n 1._o i_o yield_v that_o baptism_n in_o itself_o give_v not_o the_o be_v of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o that_o one_o must_v be_v first_o a_o member_n thereof_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la which_o we_o say_v be_v give_v by_o such_o external_a profession_n as_o we_o have_v describe_v before_o to_o man_n of_o year_n and_o to_o infant_n by_o federall_a holiness_n derive_v from_o their_o parent_n otherwise_o baptism_n can_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n nevertheless_o we_o hold_v this_o for_o certain_a that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a ordinance_n whereby_o solemn_a admission_n and_o initiation_n into_o actual_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v perform_v neither_o since_o the_o time_n that_o baptism_n be_v institute_v can_v their_o be_v show_v in_o scripture_n either_o precept_n or_o example_n of_o any_o external_a way_n or_o mean_n of_o admit_v member_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n beside_o baptism_n further_o let_v i_o ask_v of_o the_o adversary_n that_o they_o will_v produce_v from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n a_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n be_v not_o present_o and_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la esteem_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n they_o can_v it_o be_v a_o thing_n unheard_a of_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o be_v clear_o evident_a that_o upon_o what_o condition_n man_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o laver_n of_o baptism_n that_o same_o be_v account_v qualification_n sufficient_a in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la to_o constitute_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o how_o gross_a a_o absurdity_n in_o theology_n be_v it_o to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n though_o orderly_o baptize_v and_o no_o new_a impediment_n interveening_a yet_o be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o hence_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o a_o baptize_v christian_a even_o after_o he_o be_v such_o be_v yet_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n among_o these_o that_o be_v without_o pagan_n and_o infidel_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o for_o there_o the_o apostle_n divide_v the_o whole_a satitude_n of_o mankind_n into_o these_o two_o class_n of_o those_o that_o be_v within_o and_o 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v without_o and_o as_o by_o these_o that_o be_v within_o he_o understand_v such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o also_o he_o call_v brethren_n v._o 11._o so_o by_o those_o who_o be_v without_o he_o understand_v infidel_n who_o he_o call_v the_o man_n of_o the_o world_n v._o 10._o this_o much_o for_o our_o first_o argument_n section_n 14_o arg._n 2._o if_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n have_v not_o give_v to_o any_o man_n or_o society_n of_o man_n upon_o earth_n judiciary_n power_n authoritative_o judicial_o and_o positive_o to_o pronounce_v sentence_n touch_v the_o inward_a spiritual_a condition_n of_o all_o man_n profess_v true_a christian_a religion_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n whether_o they_o be_v regenerate_v or_o not_o then_o it_o can_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n a_o necessary_a qualification_n requisite_a to_o the_o admit_v of_o person_n into_o the_o outward_a fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o they_o be_v in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la judge_v true_o convert_v and_o regenerate_v but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o latter_a the_o connexion_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v evident_a of_o itself_o as_o to_o the_o assumption_n let_v it_o be_v note_v 1._o that_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o a_o minister_n have_v power_n from_o god_n with_o ministerial_a authority_n to_o determine_v doctrinal_o and_o in_o thesi_fw-la man_n regenerate_v and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n and_o reconciliation_n or_o unregenerate_a and_o as_o yet_o in_o 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consideration_n if_o he_o have_v not_o think_v fit_a to_o dictate_v to_o then_o by_o light_n of_o reason_n to_o convince_v the_o judgement_n of_o his_o reader_n as_o for_o that_o ordination_n act._n 6._o we_o doubt_v not_o to_o say_v that_o in_o it_o they_o do_v act_v partly_o as_o apostle_n partly_o as_o elder_n in_o constitute_v a_o office_n in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o before_o they_o do_v act_v their_o apostolical_a authority_n but_o in_o ordain_v unto_o that_o office_n man_n who_o the_o church_n have_v choose_v they_o do_v act_n as_o presbyter_n and_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o our_o brethren_n will_v herein_o concur_v with_o we_o for_o if_o they_o will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o do_v herein_o act_v partly_o as_o apostle_n and_o partly_o as_o elder_n they_o must_v say_v they_o act_v either_o only_a as_o apostle_n or_o only_o as_o elder_n if_o only_o as_o elder_n thence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o all_o elder_n have_v power_n not_o only_o to_o ordain_v man_n but_o to_o erect_v new_a office_n in_o the_o church_n if_o only_o as_o apostle_n than_o hence_o be_v no_o warrant_n for_o any_o elder_n so_o much_o as_o to_o ordain_v man_n unto_o a_o office_n but_o i_o yet_o wonder_v so_o much_o the_o more_o at_o this_o assertion_n of_o mr._n locky_a here_o remember_v what_o he_o have_v deliver_v before_o sect_n 10._o where_o he_o draw_v a_o argument_n from_o ordination_n of_o elder_n perform_v by_o the_o apostle_n for_o regulate_v the_o ordination_n of_o elder_n in_o church_n now_o and_o thereupon_o allege_v though_o groundlesse_o that_o the_o apostle_n in_o ordination_n take_v in_o the_o people_n to_o concurrence_n with_o they_o conclude_v that_o now_o also_o they_o ought_v to_o concur_v formal_o in_o that_o act_n if_o they_o have_v act_v as_o extraordinary_a person_n as_o apostle_n the_o people_n can_v not_o concur_v joint_o with_o then_o in_o such_o a_o act_n nor_o can_v it_o be_v a_o argument_n bring_v as_o a_o pattern_n in_o ordinary_a now_o if_o they_o act_v not_o by_o their_o extraordinary_a office_n and_o power_n in_o ordain_v elder_n what_o reason_n be_v there_o to_o say_v that_o in_o the_o ordination_n of_o these_o deacon_n they_o act_v in_o that_o way_n 2._o as_o to_o that_o but_o what_o appear_v from_o hence_o etc._n etc._n we_o say_v suppose_v that_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v make_v up_o of_o many_o congregation_n and_o these_o congregation_n be_v one_o church_n which_o be_v prove_v from_o other_o scripture_n we_o find_v from_o hence_o for_o prove_v such_o a_o presbytery_n as_o we_o speak_v for_o officer_n of_o these_o congregation_n meet_v together_o for_o government_n and_o join_v in_o a_o act_n of_o government_n ordination_n of_o church_n officer_n viz._n the_o apostle_n do_v this_o and_o that_o as_o elder_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n it_o be_v bring_v for_o by_o presbyterian_o which_o tho-by_a itself_o make_v not_o a_o full_a medium_n to_o prove_v that_o presbytery_n yet_o with_o the_o other_o supposition_n take_v with_o it_o make_v very_o much_o to_o prove_v it_o section_n 10_o 2._o place_n be_v act_v 20._o 28._o the_o elder_n there_o be_v show_v not_o to_o be_v elder_n of_o many_o church_n which_o paul_n send_v for_o but_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n v._o 17._o of_o one_o church_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n and_o charge_v they_o to_o attend_v to_o the_o stock_n and_o not_o to_o flock_n ver_fw-la 28._o here_o be_v no_o joint_a veice_n of_o various_a commission_v elder_n answ_n to_o pass_v that_o some_o of_o his_o own_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n in_o the_o assembly_n once_o in_o their_o reason_n against_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n make_v these_o both_o elder_n and_o flock_n to_o who_o the_o apostle_n speak_v to_o be_v of_o all_o asia_n &_o not_o only_o of_o ephesus_n where_o no_o doubt_v there_o be_v more_o particular_a church_n to_o pass_v this_o because_o indeed_o these_o same_o author_n a_o little_a after_o when_o it_o may_v serve_v their_o turn_n they_o confine_v they_o to_o ephesus_n we_o grant_v it_o be_v true_a they_o be_v elder_n of_o one_o church_n the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n but_o withal_o we_o say_v that_o one_o church_n be_v not_o one_o single_a congregation_n but_o make_v up_o of_o more_o than_o one_o and_o consequent_o be_v one_o presbyterial_a church_n this_o be_v prove_v by_o sundry_a learned_a particular_o by_o the_o reverend_a assembly_n of_o divine_n in_o their_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n and_o all_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n bring_v to_o the_o contrare_fw-la full_o discuss_v in_o their_o answer_n threunto_o as_o for_o the_o author_n grammatical_a argument_n they_o be_v call_v elder_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n not_o church_n and_o they_o be_v bid_v attend_v the_o flock_n not_o flock_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v but_o one_o single_a

congregation_n '_o tisfilly_n and_o may_v well_o be_v say_v among_o child_n but_o may_v blush_v to_o come_v out_o before_o understanding_n men._n by_o this_o argument_n when_o our_o saviour_n say_v upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 12._o he_o have_v set_v in_o the_o church_n first_o some_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n and_o ephes_n 5._o he_o love_v his_o church_n and_o give_v himself_o for_o it_o because_o it_o be_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n church_n not_o church_n in_o all_o these_o place_n therefore_o it_o must_v be_v only_o one_o single_a congregation_n mean_v in_o all_o of_o they_o when_o as_o it_o be_v indeed_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n and_o not_o any_o particular_a singular_a congregation_n so_o the_o name_n flock_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v take_v collectiuè_fw-la for_o such_o a_o flock_n as_o contain_v in_o it_o diverse_a particular_a flock_n as_o gen._n 33._o 13._o yea_o and_o in_o the_o very_a present_a metaphorical_a sense_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d luke_n 12._o 32._o little_a flock_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d john_n 10._o 16._o one_o sheep_n fold_n though_o both_o in_o the_o singular_a number_n yea_o and_o in_o the_o latter_a place_n with_o the_o cardinal_n number_n add_v to_o it_o one_o signify_v the_o church_n catholic_n and_o so_o comprehend_v many_o particular_a flock_n fold_n and_o church_n as_o to_o m._n lockiers_n last_o word_n in_o this_o sect._n here_o be_v no_o joint_a voice_n etc._n etc._n indeed_o we_o grant_v that_o in_o that_o meeting_n there_o be_v no_o joint_n vote_v of_o elder_n because_o these_o elder_n than_o be_v not_o meet_v to_o act_v in_o government_n but_o have_v be_v send_v for_o by_o paul_n to_o receive_v direction_n from_o he_o concern_v the_o manage_n of_o their_o charge_n but_o suppose_v that_o which_o be_v prove_v from_o other_o place_n that_o there_o be_v more_o single_a congregation_n in_o ephesus_n then_o one_o 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mr._n locky_a acknowledge_v that_o be_v a_o eldership_n of_o several_a church_n even_o a_o synodical_a presbytery_n a_o synod_n as_o himself_o call_v it_o afterward_o sect._n 29._o some_o of_o his_o side_n have_v say_v otherwise_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n in_o their_o reason_n against_o the_o assembly_n allegation_n of_o act_n 15._o for_o subordination_n of_o synod_n that_o ass_n be_v not_o a_o formal_a synod_n but_o only_o a_o reference_n by_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o antioch_n unto_o this_o particular_a church_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o no_o other_o but_o we_o think_v mr._n locky_a speak_v the_o truth_n that_o it_o be_v a_o synod_n 2._o we_o must_v here_o again_o note_v his_o invidious_a misrepresent_v of_o our_o doctrine_n we_o do_v not_o ascribe_v to_o that_o or_o any_o other_o synod_n a_o power_n of_o coercion_n to_o enforce_v their_o result_v upon_o any_o but_o a_o authoritative_a juridical_a power_n to_o enjoin_v authoritative_o their_o determination_n agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o to_o censure_v the_o disobedient_a and_o disorderly_a with_o mere_a spiritual_a censure_n as_o admonition_n excommunication_n which_o import_v no_o enforce_v ●_o propriety_n of_o speech_n nor_o do_v we_o say_v that_o that_o or_o any_o other_o synod_n have_v power_n thus_o authoritative_o to_o enjoin_v their_o determination_n upon_o other_o church_n we_o say_v they_o have_v this_o power_n only_o in_o relation_n to_o these_o church_n associate_v in_o the_o synod_n and_o none_o other_o so_o not_o that_o which_o mr._n locky_a say_v but_o this_o be_v the_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v bring_v in_o to_o make_v the_o presbytery_n we_o speak_v for_o what_o ever_o it_o be_v that_o he_o dispute_v against_o which_o oftentimes_o be_v his_o own_o fiction_n a_o juridical_a power_n authoritative_o enjoin_v its_o determination_n and_o which_o may_v censure_v with_o spiritual_a ecclesiastic_a censure_n the_o disobeyer_n and_o disorderly_a and_o this_o we_o doubt_v not_o will_v be_v find_v in_o this_o place_n act._n 15._o section_n 11_o after_o this_o the_o author_n pretend_v to_o be_v clear_a and_o full_a in_o answer_v this_o place_n he_o premit_v two_o thing_n which_o reverend_a hocker_n have_v also_o survey_v part._n 4._o c._n 1._o 1_o that_o the_o apostle_n though_o they_o be_v extraordinary_a officer_n yet_o in_o this_o meeting_n they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o such_o because_o they_o join_v with_o they_o ordinary_a church_n what_o ordinary_a church_n be_v contradistinguish_v unto_o i_o know_v not_o well_o and_o officer_n and_o all_o dispute_v and_o inquire_v and_o so_o here_o be_v leave_v a_o sampler_n to_o all_o succeed_a generation_n in_o this_o we_o agree_v with_o he_o only_o by_o the_o way_n we_o note_v that_o we_o see_v not_o why_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v before_o sect._n 25._o that_o in_o the_o ordination_n of_o deacon_n the_o apostle_n act_v as_o extraordinary_a person_n see_v there_o also_o they_o join_v the_o church_n with_o they_o in_o 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