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A96097 The arch-rebel found, or An answer to Mr. M. H.'s Brief enquiry into the true nature of schism By T.W., citizen of Chester ... T. W. 1690 (1690) Wing W111A; ESTC R43946 21,021 35

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THE ARCH-REBEL found OR AN ANSWER TO Mr. M. H's Brief Enquiry into the true Nature of SCHISM By T. W. Citizen of Chester and a Sincere lover of Truth EZEK 13 Verse 10. Because even because they have seduced my People saying Peace and there was no Peace Printed for the Author in the Year 1690. TO THE READER THO by many Learned and Pious Clergy-men of our Church the Folly and Schism of our Dissenters has been clearly and sufficiently evinced and demonstrated yet you see how restless their Spirits are and with what little shifts they continue to buoy up their Faction The little Book of Mr. M. H's Enquiry c. shall by them be vastly prefer'd to and Dogmatically affirm'd to have the Conquest over all the Learned Orthodox and ●laborate Writings of Hooker Bramhall Hammond ●aunderson and divers others I have heard some of his Disciples boast that it was not nor could be Answer'd by any of the Church-men which considering and withall how it was as much below a Clergy-man to spend his precious time about such a trifle of a Book as it is for a Lyon to concern himself with a little insignificant barking Whelp I undertook my Lay-brother with a Resolution of Patience and Cour●ge without any Apology being not skill'd therein to undergo the censures of all that read these papers If thou be a true Member of our Church I have confidence and am well assured thy precious Balm will never break my Head thy Religion hath taught thee Charity and Candor sufficient to cover any weakness that thou mayest discover and if thou art pleased with my attempt it is my great satisfaction If thou be a Dissenter who has not Sacrificed thy Name to the Factious so as to divest thy self of all Christian Temper of Humility and Consideration there is hope of thy Reconciliation and that thou wilt consider thy desperate State and Condition and if my weak endeavours may contribute to the snatching thee as a Fire-brand out of the Fire I shall exceedingly rejoyce but not I only for the Blessed Angels in Heaven will have joy among them for thy Addition to the Catholick Church of which they are the most Glorious Members If thou be Sceptical a slighter of our Religion Obstinate and Perverse a Despiser and Reviler of our Clergy whom I esteem as the Stewards of the Mystery of God and the Ministers of Reconciliation I shall altogether glory in thy Scoffs and have a low esteem of thy good words THE ARCH-REBEL found OR AN ANSWER TO Mr. M. H's Brief Enquiry into the true nature of Schism c. SIR HAD your Enquiry been to find out the true Notion of the Ninth Article in the Apostles ●reed viz. I believe the Holy Catholick Church the Communion of Saints ●ou had then found the true Standard by which you might have made a far clearer discovery of Schism than you have done by your Enquiry For which purpose I offer to your Consideration first the Origination and first Existance of the Catholick Church which was before the day of Pentecost Acts 1. v. 15. The number of the Names together were about an Hundred and Twenty This Number consisted of the Apostles and Disciples That this was the Church appears Cap 2. v. 47. And the Lord added to the Church that is to the Apostles and Disciples dayly such as should be saved To encrease his Church and to plant it in all Nations Christ Jesus the head thereof gave unto the Apostles Universal power Saint John 20.21 As the Father sent me even so send I you to Preach the Gospel to all the World that in every Nation they that believe might be Baptiz'd and made Members of this Church which is the Mystical Body of Christ And the Apostles according to the Command of our Saviour and by Virtue of that Power wherewith he invested them and those extraordinary gifts which they received by the Descent of the Holy Ghost enabling them mightily for so great a work did preach the Gospel to all Nations and so wonderfully prevail'd that in the life time of St. John there were Seven Churches Established in Asia under Seven Bishops each Church having a Bishop presiding over it which is very manifest by the name Angel which St. John gives them Now though there be a Multiplication or Plurality of Churches by the encrease of Believers yet no variation they are all one with that Church first mentioned at Jerusalem and all one with one another being all United into one Spiritual Society or Body under one Head Christ Jesus and are in all things the same with that first Church United in one Baptism and in one Faith and all pertake at the same Table eating the same Bread being the Symbol of the same Body which suffered on the Cross and drinking all of the same Cup the Cup of the New Testament the Symbol of the Blood of Christ which he shed for his Church and so United all in the visible external Worship and Service of God This is ● Original and first being of the Church The next thing Sir I offer to your consideration is the Continuance o● Duration of this Church on Earth and that is till our Blessed Saviour's second Advent St. Mat. 28.20 And lo I am with you always even to the end of the World Amen The power wherewith our Blessed Saviour vested the Apostles was not to cease or expire with them but as they had received the power of Governing and Conferring Orders in the Church from Christ Jesus so they conferr'd the same on others that the Church might for ever retain this Apostolical power and thus in this respect our Lord is with his Church to the end of the World And this Apostolical Succession was begun in Timothy and Titus the former being Ordained by the Apostles Bishop of Ephesus the other Bishop of Creet that they were both invested with power of jurisdiction and conferring Orders and that though in each Diocess there were many Presbyters yet that none had Authority to ordain Elders or Priests but they is most manifest by Saint Paul's Epistles to them both To propagate this Apostolical Succession Linus by Apostolical Consecration Succeeded the Apostles in the See of Rome Symeon Succeeded Saint James in the Chair of Jerusalem Anianus Succeeded Saint Mark in the Jurisdiction of the Church of Alexandria And this Succession in the right line from the Apostles to secure the Church from Impostors and Pretenders was so sacredly carryed on and propagated with such certainty that Saint Irenaeus affirms Lib. 3. adv Her c. 3. he could name all the Successors of the Apostolick Churches unto his days And accordingly this line of Apostolick Succession of Bishops hath continued in all Ages without interruption to this present time Now whoever he be that is out of this line of Apostolick Succession and exercises any Ministerial Office without the Commission of Episcopal Ordination can be no more or other than a Lay-Impostor and a
Schismatick And consequently all Societies of Christians who withdraw themselves from the Government of their Bishops who are the Apostles Successors and from communicating with those Presbyters lawfully set over them by Episcopal Ordination and Institution and frame themselves into any other kind of Government are guilty of Schism This 〈◊〉 the true formal Notion of Schism in the sense of the Fathers in the ●tive Church Of which more anon This Church so constituted and established to continue to the end of the ●orld from its Universallity was by the Primitive Fathers called the Catholick Church and from its Unity the Communion of Saints Which is now to be considered What this Union and Communion of Saints is appears by Holy Scripture St. John 13. v. 35. By this shall all men know that ye are my Disciples if ye have love one for another Love is the Badge of a Disciple of Christ and Member of the Catholick Church but there must be more in the command to the Disciples to love one another than commonly the acceptation Love hath for the Christian Religion enjoyns Love and Charity to all men To Love our Enemies to pray for them that hate us and to do good to them that despitefully use us and persecute us is the command of our Blessed Saviour and Gal. 6. v. 10. As we have therefore opertunity let us do good unto all men So that this Love which one Disciple is to have for another must be such as distinguisheth Chrstians from all other men Now what can that be but to love one another as members of the same Body whereof Christ is the Head and what can that be but to live in Christian Communion and Fellowship one with another I● cannot be the bare loving one another for there are some who are not Christians who are so bountiful and loving towards all men that if this were the only Charact●ristical mark of a Christian they would and must pass for Christians without believing in Christ And who seeth not that Pyrats and Robbers and the vilest of men love one another So that it is as before is said not the bare loving one another by which men are known to be Christians but the being admitted by Baptism into the Society of the Christian Church and loving one another in the Communion of that Church this is that which makes true Christian Charity Saint Paul commands 1 Cor. 12.25 26. that there be no Schism in the Body but the Members should have the same care one for another and whether one Member suffers all the Members suffer with it or one Member be honored all the Members rejoyce with it now ye are the Body of Christ and Members in particular Christians to love one another is to love like Members of the same Body to preserve the Body from all Rents and Schisms and to maintain Sympathy and Chri●●● Charity in the Communion of Christs Body whereof we are all M●●bers So that Christian Charity unites us to Christs Body and nothin●● Christian Love and Charity that doth not unite us in one Body 〈◊〉 one Communion that is one external visible Communion of the Christian Church Thus you see that by the words Christian Love and Charity so much used in Scripture must be understood the Communion of Saints and that out of the Communion of Saints there can be no Christian Charity And so is the same thing meant expressed by other words namely Brotherly Love Rom. 10.12 and by the name Brethren Heb. 13. v. 1. Let brotherly Love continue This term Brother was given to none but those who liv'd in Communion with the Church not the Gnosticks who seperated from it under pretence of greater Knowledge nor any who separate upon any pretence whatsoever And a●ter the Apostles the Primitive Church did confine the Christian Brother-hood to the Communion of the Church all the Precepts relating to Brotherly Love either in the Evangelists or Apostles suppose Christians to be Members of the Mystical Body of Christ that is his C●urch and to be all United there in full Communion and this is what t●e ●postle means to have no Schism in the Body out of all which it appears Fi●thly to assent to and believe all the Articles of Faith contained in the Apo●●les Nicene and Saint Athanasius's Creed allow'd and receiv'd in the Primitive Church to pertake all of the same Table where we a● pertake of the same Body which was broken for us and of the same Blood which was shed for us and to joyn all in the same holy Prayers and Supplications Intercessions and giving of thanks made as the Apos●le expres●ly commands for all men to be Subject and Obedient to ou● Spiritual Rulers and Governors who have derived their Power and Authority ●rom the Apostles by a due succession to this present Age in all things pertaining to Godly Life Decency and Order as the Catholicks did in the Primitive times this is true Christian Charity in the Language of the Scriptures and this is the Communion of Saints To hold Communion in the Articles of Faith only or what you call Fundamentals without any visible Sign of being in Communion with some Church that is a true Member of the Catholick Church is not sufficient to make a Catholick or one in the Communion of Saints though without such a Communion of Faith it is imposible to be so Corah and his Company were of the same Creed with Moses and Aaron yet were Schismatical wretches and were punished with a Vengeance The Don●ti●●s whom you acknowledge to be Scismaticks held the Fundamentals of Religion but their separate Communion from the Catholick Church upon pretence of greater purity excluding all other Churches as not Cat●o ick this made 'em Schismaticks in the judgment of the Fathers in the Catholick Church at that time So that all particular Churches who agree with the Primitive Catholick Church in all the Articles of Faith and in the external visible Worship and Service of God are true Members of the Catholick Church and in the Communion of Saints and no other The Church of England then having from the first planting of the Gospel here retained the Apostolick power of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction and Ordaining Priests by an unterrupted Succession of Arch Bishops and Bishops in the right line from the Apostles to this present time and agreeing with and no way repugnant to the Primitive Catholick Church in Doctrin Discipline and Worship is truly a Member of the Universal Catholick Church out of which there is no Communion of Saints The necessary consequence whereof is that they who live within the Jurisdiction of the Church of England and refuse Communion with her in the external visible Worship and Service of God do exclude themselves from being Members of the Catholick Church or in the Communion of Saints and are consequently guilty of Schism The reason is plain because there is no other way for any to hold Communion with the Universal Catholick Church but
Violate its Unity so long as it continues in the true use of the Word and Sacraments though otherwise it be over-run with many blemishes and corruptions Inst l. 4. Sect. 10 11 12. You see how Mr. Calvin is against you from whom the Original of your way had its date I here make it my hearty request to you that you will read the Letters of the Reformed Divines of Foreign Countries to the Bishop of London viz. That of Monsieur le Moyne Professor of Divinity at Leyden concerning the Nature of our Differences and the unlawfulness of Separation from the Church of England That of Monsieur de Langle a Preacher of the Reformed Church-meeting at Charenton near Paris And also That of Monsieur Claude all of the same Subject you have them all at the end of Dr. Stillingfleet's Vnreasonableness of Separation They all conclude you under Schism In Page the 20th towards the end you have these words I need not mention the occasion having dispatched that before Whether they be Episcopal Presbyterian Independent or by what Name or Title soever they be self-dignified or distinguished you cannot forbear not only Uncharitableness but Hatred and Malice against the Clergy and consequently the whole Church you Condemn Bitterness and Uncharitableness as Schism in all other and where can it be found more apparently than in you in these words By what Name or Title soever they be self-dignified or distinguished these are not Applicable to your Party less to the Anabaptists then they must be spoken of the arch-Arch●Bishops and Bishops of our Church whom the King always nominates and they are accordingly truly Consecrated to be so Orders instituted by the Apostles in the Church of Christ and from them continued to this present age without interruption 1 Cor. 12 28. And God hath set some in the Church first Apostles secondarily Prophets thirdly Teachers c. helps in Government c. God hath set them up and you revile them as men setting up and dignifieing themselves is this your Charity what more Diabolical Spirit can there be in any Sect ●mong men than thus to dispise and set at nought those who are dignified by Divine Right and Authority to Rule and Govern in the Church of God you make it a Schismaticating Principle to censure you of Uncharitableness and Bitterness who have even in this rank'd your self among those whom the Apostle St. Jude in his Epistle verse 28. calls filthy Dreamers who speak evil of Dignities Yet say you But to come a little closer the Meetings of the Dissenters though now blessed be God permitted and allowed by the Law of the Land yet are commonly Charged with being Schismatical the great Out-cry is that we leave the Church and the Vnthinking Mobile who are so well taught as to know no other Churches but the Publick places of Worship are easily induced to believe it as if it were Schism to Worship God any where else let the Worship there be what it will you go on those who will allow themselves the Liberty of an Vnprejudiced thought cannot but see the difference so small that as long as we believe the same Christian Faith and agree in the same Protestant abhorrence of Papal Delusions we may easily be looked upon as one and the same Church as well as two several Parish Churches may especially being Vnited under the Care and Protection of one Protestant King and Members of the same Protestant Common-Wealth Sir Indulgence which carries the Title of the Act always imploys a defect if not a Crime you say you are permitted and allowed though the Act is no more than Indulgence which never signifies approbation or likeing all you have by it is but for the hardness of your Hearts as our Blessed Saviour says of the Indulgence of the Jews for putting away their Wives by a Bill of Divorse to which our Saviour saith Mat. 19 8. But in the beginning it was not so Their Plea for that Indulgence is distroyed by an Argument drawn from Antiquity I have the like Argument for you in the Primitive Church it was not so no Indulgence for seperate Communion upon any pretence whatsoever you have one and I give my reason why I wish no ill effects follow it In the year 1560. Mr. J. Calvin by his Letter to Arch Bishop Grindal solicites him to obtain the favour of the Queen to Assign and at his request she did Assign the Church of Saint Anthony in London for some French exiles then there and were of Mr. Calvins Principle to meet in and with License to set up the Genevian Discipline and a Form of Prayer which had no Conformity with the English Liturgy which proved in the event a design expedient of Calvins for advancing Presbitery in the room of Episcopacy Upon this Toleration their numbers so increased that in the year 1568. they broke out into open Schism choosing to meet in Barns and Fields rather than in Churches with their Brethren as formerly teaching 't was impious to hold any Correspondence with the Conforming Churches Upon this very occasion viz. the Queens Toleration and particularly her Indulging the Genevian Discipline within 8 years time their Members so increased and their Insolence also that the Queen plainly saw as her own words were that such were the restless Spirits of that Factious people that here was no quietness to be expected from them till they were utterly supprest In order to which she called a Parliament in 1592. wherein strict Laws were made against them and executed accordingly Barrow Penry and Burchet were hanged for such Nonconformity-principles as were Treasonable and by those sharp Laws made against them the Ring leaders were humbled and the whole Body of 'em brought to a good degree of Quietness at that time and held dureing her Reign I heartily wish that your Great Champion Mr. Baxter prove not a true Prophet who in his Epistle Dedicatory before his Treatise of Self-denial to Coll. James Berrey then one of the Council of State calls Toleration Englands misery a Liberty for drawing men to Hell a wicked damning Liberty a Strengthening the Party Tolerated a giving way for their Power a giving a way our own Power a preparing Faggots for our own Martirdom And he represents Tolerating Magistrates as a sort of men that Rule as though they were uncertain whether there were a Heaven or a Hell Thus he By the story in the Queen you see what use your Predecessors those great pretenders of Sanctity made of their Indulgence and if you tread their Paths you may fall into the like mischiefs and I will tell you why you can never stand right with the Government because your Principles carry you to the rooting out of Episcopacy which is the Pillar of Ecclesiastical Government And we see by Mr. Baxter with what Vigor and Zeal Uniformity will then be held forth in all your Pulpits I now return to the remainder of your Paragraph You say the meet●ng of the
the prime addit on of these gifts and graces that are among you is this that ye all teach the same Doctrine and nourish Charity and Vnity that there be no divisions in the Churches but that ye be compacted and Vnited as Members of the same Body in the same belief and affection Is not this quite different from your Exposition you take off the force and efficacy of the Apostle's Exhortation to Unity purposly to excuse your Schism is any thing more demonstrative in the World than that your practice is quite contrary to this Exhortation who have set up a Communion separate from the Church of God establish'd in this Kingdom both by Divine and Civil Sanction You are unlucky in your Exposition very wide from the mark and it can never fare otherwise with you while you live in Schism it being the Nature of Schism to hurry men into a thousand errors Again in the former Paragraph That ye all speak the same things viz. In the Fundamental Doctrines of Christianity for say you in little things it can never be made a duty to be of the same Opinion since it is morally impossible I must here say again what I have said that different Opinions in meer Notions and Speculations or any differing Opinions that break not Communion are not here meant for so men may differ and not be guilty of Schism But if you mean by morally impossible that it is impossible for Christians to be perfectly joyned together in the same mind and in the same Judgment as the Apostles exhorts so as to maintain Unity and prevent Schism in the Church either the Apostles Exhortation is to no p●●pose and effect or your insinuation very vain You go on that ye be perfectly joyned together with the same mind and in the same ●udgment which say you must be understood of a serious endeavour af●●r it for otherwise a perfect conjunction must be reserved for a world of ●verlasting perfection Sir are you so self dignify'd to use your own words as to be a Teach●r of Saints and know not that a perfect Conjunction in the Catholick Church and Communion of Saints is required of all those who are to ●●●e to the world of everlasting perfection Your 11 12 and 13 pages are filled with an Enquiry of the Corin●hians miscari●ge you say that Clemens Roman●s in his famous Epistle to ●e ●●rinthians sti●l calls Schisms contentions which I believe is true For ●chism is the Mother of Contention You find that the Corinthians were divided in their Opinions about ●heir Ministers one cries I am of Pa●l as more Edifying another cries am of Apollos and another I am of C●phas this you say did not make ●he Schism for say you Why might not each go where he might be most edi●●d but you say the Schism was in that they Sacrificed Christian Love and ●harity and after you say a great deal to little purpose For It s very plain the Corinthians were accused of that you call Schism ●are●y for preferring or admiring one Minister above another though ●dification was the pretence and not for breach of Communion for with ●hichsoever they Communicated it was one and the same Communion ●r Saint Paul and Christ were not divided nor were either of the other ●ivided from Christ their Communion was the same though their Cures ●ere several so that there was no reason as you impertinently say to si●ence any of them for in them there was no Schism nor any blame ●ut say you the w●y of Curing this Schism was not to silence Apollos and ●ephas that they might all be of Paul and here you make St. Paul some ●art of amends for your former Scandalous Exposition in saying that he ●refered Souls S●lvation before his own Credit How impertinently do you say the way to Cure this Schism was not to ●lence Apollos c. As if to silence you that your followers may come ●o Church were as illegal as to have silenced them Sir there is a vast ●ifference between you and they who are Pastors and Ministers of Christ ●●ey are the Stewards of the Mysteries of God and the Ministers of Re●onciliation and are made so by Apostolical Power of them our Blessed ●aviour saith St. John 10. v. 2 thus He that entreth in by the door is the Shepherd of the Sheep but such as you who climb up some other way our Saviour in the 1 v. calls a Thief and a Robber Had Apollos and Cephas been as disorderly and Schismatical as you St. Paul would in all probability have exercised his Apostolical Power and have silenced them as the Cure and it is more than probable that the Schism which you maintain would receive a Cure were you and all such silenced and supprest In your Recipe for the Cure of Schism one Ingredient is That they walk all the same way though they trace different paths your falacy and equivocation in this is very visible for here is nothing like a different path it is all one way and one path they were all United in the same Communion But you cunningly insinuate this merely to delude the ignorant and undiscerning by perswading them that your Conventicle is the same way with the Church only as you call it a different path which is no other than Schismatical meeting So your cure of Schism is to continue in Schism You are a rare Spiritual Phisitian And then to bring up the rear you have this rare Inference viz. It appears that narrow Spiritedness which is a very improper expression which confines Religion and the Church to our way and party whatever it is to th● condemning of others that differ from us in little things is the bain of th● Christian Church And to make this as true as the Gospel you set down a Latin Proverb hinc illae lachrymae Sir Religion is the bond of Unity did you ever know Religion with out Bounds and Rules for all of that Religion to be confined to even to a Punctilio and is it narrow Spiritedness to observe those Rules and t● be confin'd within the Bounds of Religion is it a Schismaticating Principle to make a true Judgement of Schism which you call an Arch-Rebe● in Christs Kingdom and censure them who are Guilty of it Have not all they of your Conventiling Communion Rules given them though of your own parties making by which they are confin'd to yours and distinguishable from all other different Communions If you or any other of the Presbyterian Communion come to London or any other par● of this Kingdom do not you hold exactly the same way of Worship a● you have here sure you cannot deny this and is not this to confin● your Sect to your own way and Communion Why then do you reproachfully call this narrow Spiritedness in others and practice it your selves You say condemning of others that differ in little things is the great Schismaticating principle which hath been so much the bane of the Christian Church
hinc illae lacrymae It must rather be the setting up of your Seperate Communions that hath been so much the bane of this Christian Church I am sure it was the Puritanical Faction who in their Conventicles blew up the Trumpet of Sedition and Rebellion and overturned the Government of both Church and State and through pretended Sanctity and Gospel Zeal perpetrated the most hellish Actions that ever were since Adam Then was Violence under the colour of Zeal the Note and Badge of Sanctity Loyalty to a Prince of incomparable piety and faithfulness to the most pure Christian Church was damn'd for malignancy I am sure you are of the same Tribe these were the men by whom the Church was not only rent in Pieces but for a time which was as long as they were in Power rooted out here we may truly say hinc illae lacrymae Mr. H. I lived in the time when through Blood and Rebellion your Party gave Laws and Rules to all then all that were of our Church were not Censured for little things but Branded for Reprobates Excluded from Mercy all the Clergy not only Silenced but Sequestred and many Imprisoned and starved it was not much worse with Christians under Nero and Dioclesian and all this for not Conforming to your Novel Discipline yet the gentle Penalties of the Royal Laws which were made for Peace and Unity are cry'd up by you and your Party for such a Persecution as never was Alas Sir for all your pretended Meekness and Charity now you that retain the same principles would certainly repeat the same miseries had you the same power which God of his Infinite mercy for ever prevent Amen Now I return and try whether from your Instance in the Corinthians you could not have found a far more genuin conclusion and more agreeing with the Apostles meaning If but the having one Minister of Christ though rightly ordained in admiration above another to the begetting Contention incur the Guilt of Schism and is no way to be Tollerated in the Church of God How much more am I a Schismatick who am not only not rightly ordained but keep up a Communion seperate from the Church of God in the Kingdom where I live the Argument will hold a Minori ad Majus If contentions about admiring one Minister above another be Schism then sure to maintain a Separate Communion which makes Contention much hotter fiercer and more numerous must much more be Schism In Page 15. you say That 's Schism which breaks or slackens the bon● by which the Membe●s are knit together In this you are Orthodox but you keep not to it for you say Now that bond is not an Act of Vniformity in point of Communion in the same Modes and Ceremonies but true Love and Charity in point of Affection The breach of Communion be it for want of Uniformity in the same Modes and Ceremonies or what you will that is not sinful does certainly to use your own words Break and Slacken the Bond by which the Members are knit together for to divide in point of Communion is to dis-unite and unknit the Members and consequently the Bond be it as you say Love and Charity or the Unity of the Spirit or what you please is broken and this you most truly say is Schism and yet you say that the Bond is not an Act of Vniformity c. in point of Communion which is a manifest contradiction Now all these erroneous and miserably mistaken Expositions of Scripture and inferences equally false are the Foundation upon which you erect your Description of Schism and which at present you apprehend is the true Scriptural Notion of Schism which that all who read these papers may judge of I here Insert Schism is an Uncharitable Distance Division or Alienation of Affection among those who are called Christians and agree in the Fundamentals of Religion occasioned by their different apprehensions about little things You agree with our Church in all that you call Fundamentals and your Distance and Division you acknowledge is for little things that it is an Uncharitable Distance and Division is undeniable for the breach of Christian Communion is certainly the breach of Christian Charity here you are Condemned out of your own mouth But how far different your Description is from the Primitive Catholick Notion of Schism sufficiently appears to you by what I have shewed before You mention not Seperating or withdrawing from the Communion of the Church which is most Infamous and Notorious Schism and confine it only to breach of Charity which though always a great fault yet in many cases amounts not to Schism I now take notice of your Fourth Inference page 23. If this be Schism then there may be Separation of Communion where there is no Schism say you for thus we all agree that there may be difference of apprehension and yet no Schism provided it do not eat out Christian Love but be managed amicably as betwixt the Arminians and the Calvinists in the Church of England What strange kind of Reasoning is this If breach of Charity be Schism then separate Communion may be without Schism and to prove this you instance in the difference between the Arminians and Calvinists in the Church of England who differed in Opinions the former Asserting the Freedom or Liberty of the Will the other Election and Reprobation here was no separation of the Communion or denial of any Article of the Church for both sign'd the Articles nor from Communion one with another both parties submitting to the Uniformity required so you bring an instance to justifie seperate Communion from Schism where there was no seperate Communion at all see how illogical your reasoning is If breach of Charity be Schism then there may be separate Communion without Schism Would any man of Sence but you have made such a Conclusion from such premisses would not the Argument have run truer thus If breach of Charity be Schism then separate Communion is much more Schism But breach of Charity is Schism Therefore c. I am forced here to say what I have said before that it is most manifest that a separate Communion unless from a Schismatical Church is in it self the agravation and extremity of Schism and is naturally and infallibly the cause of the highest breaches of Charity and of the hottest and fiercest contentions which you own to be Schism But suppose there were some thing in our Constitutions that needed amendment or alteration yet every defect and supposed Corruption in a Church is not a sufficient ground for Separation or warrant enough to tear it in pieces Hear Mr. Calvins Opinion he saith where ever the Word of God is duely Preached and Reverently attended to and the true use of the Sacraments kept up there is an appearance of a true Church whose Authority no man may dispise or reject its admonitions or resist its Councils or set at nought its Discipline much less separate from it and