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he_o condemn_v they_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o bull._n and_o thus_o he_o begin_v and_o proceed_v to_o enumerat_a and_o particularize_v they_o in_o primis_fw-la itaque_fw-la isti_fw-la viri_fw-la reprobi_fw-la dogmatizare_fw-la praesumunt_fw-la quod_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d christo_fw-la legitur_fw-la in_o evangelio_n b._n matthei_n quod_fw-la ipse_fw-la soluit_fw-la tributum_fw-la caesari_n quâ—â—do_fw-la staterem_fw-la sumptum_fw-la ex_fw-la ore_fw-la piscis_fw-la illis_fw-la qui_fw-la petebant_fw-la didrach_n ma_fw-fr jussit_fw-la daâ—â—â—â—_n fecit_fw-la non_fw-fr condescensiué_fw-fr &_o liberalitate_fw-la suae_fw-la pietatis_fw-la sed_fw-la necessitate_v coactus_fw-la secundâ—_n isti_fw-la silij_fw-la belial_n dogmatizare_fw-la praesumunt_fw-la quod_fw-la b._n petrus_n apostolus_fw-la non_fw-la plus_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la habuit_fw-la quam_fw-la alii_fw-la apostoli_fw-la habuerint_fw-la nec_fw-la aliorum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la fuit_fw-la caput_fw-la item_n 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bona_fw-la ejus_fw-la publicari_fw-la praecepit_fw-la item_n leo_n papa_n ut_fw-la habetur_fw-la distinct_a 63._o cap._n in_o synodo_n in_o synodo_fw-la congregata_fw-la romae_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sancti_fw-la salvatoris_fw-la ad_fw-la exemplum_fw-la b._n hadriani_n apostolicae_fw-la sedis_fw-la antistitis_fw-la qui_fw-la domino_fw-la carolo_n victoriosissimo_fw-la regi_fw-la francorum_fw-la &_o longobardorum_fw-la patriciatus_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la ac_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la sedis_fw-la &_o investituram_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concessit_fw-la ego_fw-la quoque_fw-la leo_fw-la episcopus_fw-la servus_n servorum_fw-la dei_fw-la cum_fw-la toto_fw-la clero_fw-la ac_fw-la romano_n populo_fw-la constituimus_fw-la &_o confirmanus_fw-la et_fw-la corroboramus_fw-la et_fw-la per_fw-la nostram_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la auctoritatem_fw-la concedimus_fw-la atque_fw-la largimur_fw-la domino_fw-la othoni_fw-la primo_fw-la regi_fw-la tentonicorum_fw-la ejusque_fw-la 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