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A16898 A letter apologeticall of George Brisse Lord of Desgrutieres wherein are set downe the reasons that moued him to turne to the reformed. / Written to Monsieur Touraine, Aduocate in the Court of Parliament of Bretany. A worke very profitable for those to reade that desire to know the grounds of their religion. Translated out of French.; Lettre apologétique de George Brisset, Sr Desgrustières. English. Brisset, Georges.; Tauraine, Monsieur. 1616 (1616) STC 3792; ESTC S119305 8,697 22

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