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A77490 The unlavvfulnesse and danger of limited episcopacie· VVhereunto is subioyned a short reply to the modest advertiser and calme examinator of that treatise. As also the question of episcopacie discussed from Scripture and fathers. / By Robert Bailly pastor of Killwunning in Scotland. Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. 1641 (1641) Wing B470; Thomason E174_4; ESTC R11030 25,095 50

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