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much_o more_o in_o his_o opinion_n the_o bishop_n be_v in_o a_o high_a state_n they_o the_o religious_a for_o which_o only_a thing_n m._n doctor_n allege_v he_o and_o whereas_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o where_o a_o religious_a man_n end_v there_o a_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n begin_v which_o word_n or_o pastor_n m._n nicholas_n carp_v at_o m._n doctor_n add_v or_o pastor_n because_o he_o know_v that_o henricus_fw-la de_fw-la gandavo_fw-la and_o gerson_n do_v hold_v that_o even_o curate_n have_v a_o state_n of_o perfection_n above_o regular_o which_o opinion_n suarez_n as_o we_o shall_v see_v deem_v not_o improbable_a and_o at_o least_o as_o m._n doctor_n a_o little_a before_o have_v prove_v they_o have_v a_o calling_n and_o office_n of_o great_a perfection_n they_o have_v the_o religious_a yet_o m._n doctor_n not_o stand_v on_o this_o conclude_v only_o that_o the_o bishop_n he_o now_o add_v not_o or_o pastor_n lay_v his_o foundation_n on_o the_o religious_a man_n roof_n and_o top_n so_o 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eiusmodi_fw-la praelatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o in_o such_o prelate_n we_o confider_v the_o degree_n of_o the_o holy_a order_n speak_v simple_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n in_o they_o worthy_a and_o more_o perfect_a then_o in_o the_o religious_a as_o religious_a not_o in_o holy_a order_n where_o we_o see_v he_o use_v m._n doctor_n reduplication_n which_o offend_v m._n nicholas_n and_o prefer_v the_o holy_a order_n before_o the_o state_n and_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a man_n who_o be_v not_o in_o holy_a order_n m._n nicholas_n i_o grante_v that_o if_o we_o limit_v the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n to_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n etc._n etc._n then_o to_o say_v that_o religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v no_o more_o than_o to_o say_v religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v no_o priest_n or_o bishop_n which_o sure_o be_v no_o great_a mystery_n but_o than_o it_o shall_v be_v prove_v with_o what_o ground_n the_o mame_n of_o hierarchy_n shall_v be_v so_o limit_v n._n 2._o the_o reply_n how_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o how_o they_o be_v not_o 8._o m._n nicholas_n from_o this_o place_n begin_v to_o prove_v that_o regulars_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o true_o if_o either_o god_n or_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n on_o they_o god_n forbid_v that_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o take_v it_o from_o they_o rather_o i_o will_v by_o word_n and_o writing_n defend_v it_o and_o hazard_n even_o my_o life_n to_o assure_v it_o the_o more_o unto_o they_o but_o if_o neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v give_v they_o this_o honour_n neither_o must_v we_o give_v it_o to_o they_o lest_o we_o break_v god_n his_o ordinance_n neither_o shall_v they_o desire_v it_o but_o as_o the_o laiety_n murmure_v not_o against_o the_o clergy_n as_o core_n dathan_n and_o abiron_n 16._o num._n 16._o and_o their_o follower_n do_v against_o moses_n and_o aaron_n for_o that_o they_o may_v not_o preach_v nor_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o as_o those_o of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n ought_v not_o to_o take_v it_o in_o evil_a part_n that_o they_o be_v not_o esteem_v religious_a so_o neither_o shall_v the_o religious_a be_v offend_v if_o we_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n upon_o they_o though_o they_o be_v adorn_v with_o many_o other_o grace_n rather_o they_o may_v rejoice_v in_o god_n that_o they_o have_v many_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a life_n which_o other_o have_v not_o and_o be_v furnish_v with_o more_o mean_n to_o attain_v to_o perfection_n then_o secular_a priest_n have_v and_o that_o their_o state_n be_v more_o secure_a and_o free_a from_o danger_n then_o any_o other_o state_n be_v 9_o and_o if_o m._n nicholas_n who_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n mean_v only_o that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n neither_o m._n doctor_n nor_o any_o good_a catholic_a will_n or_o can_v deny_v it_o nay_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n 7._o chap._n 8._o n._n 7._o say_v that_o religious_a man_n as_o religious_a be_v a_o great_a ornament_n to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v in_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o they_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v ordain_v to_o help_v and_o assist_v bishop_n and_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n 10._o but_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o common_o it_o be_v take_v by_o s._n denys_n and_o divine_n for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v illuminate_v perfect_v and_o purge_v the_o rest_n by_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n so_o only_a bishop_n pastor_n priest_n and_o other_o minister_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n the_o holy_a council_n of_o trent_n take_v the_o hierarchy_n say_v si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la hierarchiam_fw-la divina_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la institutam_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o pres_n byter_fw-mi be_v &_o ministris_fw-la anathema_n sit_v if_o any_o shall_v say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n a_o hierarchy_n institute_v by_o the_o divine_a ordinance_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n and_o minister_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v 6._o sess_n 23_o can_n 6._o where_o we_o see_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v take_v only_o for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n and_o see_v that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n as_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n be_v they_o be_v not_o as_o regulars_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n for_o if_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n then_o lay_v brother_n and_o sister_n who_o be_v true_o regulars_n shall_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o so_o shall_v be_v comprehend_v under_o bishop_n or_o priest_n or_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n 11._o and_o therefore_o i_o wonder_v that_o m._n nicholas_n pag._n 165._o shall_v say_v that_o it_o be_v temeritie_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o council_n intend_v to_o define_v as_o a_o matter_n of_o fayto_fw-mi that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n can_v be_v comprehend_v only_a bishop_n priest_n or_o other_o minister_n endue_v with_o order_n or_o jurisdiction_n rather_o it_o may_v seem_v great_a temeritie_n in_o m._n nicholas_n to_o comprehend_v regulars_n as_o regulars_n under_o that_o definition_n they_o as_o such_o be_v neither_o bishop_n nor_o priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n but_o peradventure_o m._n nicholas_n will_v comprehend_v regulars_n under_o thâ—_n word_n minister_n and_o why_o so_o be_v they_o as_o regulars_n minister_n in_o the_o church_n who_o as_o regulars_n can_v not_o by_o office_n preach_v or_o minister_v sacrament_n or_o assist_v at_o the_o altar_n with_o the_o deacon_n and_o subdeacon_n do_v he_o ever_o read_v or_o hear_v that_o regulars_n be_v call_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n certes_o vasquez_n a_o jesuite_n and_o regular_n 2._o vasq_fw-la to_o 3._o disp_n 238._o c._n 2._o under_o that_o word_n ministris_fw-la minister_n comprehend_v only_a deacon_n not_o other_o inferior_a minister_n much_o less_o under_o that_o word_n will_v he_o understand_v regulars_n who_o as_o regulars_n be_v never_o call_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n they_o as_o regulars_n have_v no_o church-function_n other_o under_o that_o word_n minister_n understand_v deacon_n and_o subdeacons_n but_o none_o understand_v regulars_n 22._o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n chap._n 15._o touch_v this_o question_n whether_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v only_o to_o touch_v it_o and_o that_o with_o great_a moderation_n and_o respect_n to_o religious_a and_o therefore_o allege_v no_o author_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o i_o also_o because_o i_o will_v not_o give_v the_o least_o occasion_n of_o offence_n will_v have_v be_v spare_v in_o this_o matter_n but_o that_o m._n nicholas_n urge_v i_o much_o in_o his_o 6._o question_n where_o he_o handle_v this_o point_n at_o large_a and_o say_v n._n 1_o that_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a then_o that_o some_o person_n he_o seem_v to_o mean_v m._n doctor_n for_o one_o who_o i_o dare_v say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n nor_o ever_o be_v much_o conversant_a in_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n from_o who_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n wilbe_n discourse_v of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n and_o because_o m._n nicholas_n will_v seem_v to_o be_v more_o conversant_a in_o s._n denys_n and_o s._n thomas_n than_o other_o be_v and_o say_v that_o from_o they_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n i_o shall_v especial_o examine_v what_o s._n denys_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o i_o will_v show_v so_o plain_o and_o clear_o out_o of_o he_o from_o whence_o indeed_o s._n thomas_n and_o all_o divine_v have_v learned_a that_o which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o regular_o in_o his_o opinion_n and_o as_o he_o take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o the_o reader_n will_v confess_v that_o either_o m._n nicholas_n never_o read_v s._n denys_n and_o so_o be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o they_o who_o as_o he_o say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n or_o if_o he_o read_v he_o that_o he_o understand_v he_o not_o or_o witting_o and_o willing_o dissemble_v his_o opinion_n 13._o 5._o l._n de_fw-fr eccl._n hierarch_n cap._n 5._o s._n
denys_n then_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n speak_v of_o those_o who_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n recken_v only_o the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n and_o say_v that_o the_o bishop_n office_n be_v to_o perfect_a the_o priest_n to_o illuminate_v the_o deacon_n to_o purge_v and_o in_o the_o say_a chapter_n in_o his_o contemplation_n he_o tell_v how_o they_o all_o three_o be_v ordain_v and_o the_o bishop_n he_o say_v be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a order_n in_o who_o the_o rest_n be_v consummate_v for_o say_v he_o as_o the_o whole_a hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v consummate_v in_o the_o chief_a hierarch_n and_o bishop_n christ_n so_o every_o spiritual_a and_o particular_a hierarchy_n that_o be_v every_o particular_a church_n be_v terminate_v and_o consummate_v in_o its_o proper_a bishop_n which_o may_v be_v note_v against_o m._n nicholas_n who_o will_v have_v a_o particular_a church_n without_o a_o particular_a bishop_n so_o that_o s._n denys_n in_o the_o hierarchy_n place_v only_a bishop_n priest_n &_o deacon_n to_o who_o be_v reduce_v subdeacons_n and_o other_o inferior_a order_n if_o especial_o these_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a institution_n of_o which_o point_n m._n doctor_n have_v dispute_v in_o his_o hierarchy_n 14._o 6._o dion_n l._n eccl._n high_a c._n 6._o in_o the_o next_o chapter_n which_o be_v the_o sixth_o he_o treat_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v and_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n in_o his_o elucidation_n or_o explication_n of_o this_o sixth_o chapter_n say_v that_o s._n denys_n in_o the_o former_a chapter_n treat_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o perfector_n that_o be_v the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n but_o now_o in_o the_o sixth_o chapter_n he_o speak_v of_o three_o order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v and_o he_o observe_v that_o when_o s._n denys_n speak_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o those_o that_o perfect_a other_o the_o name_n order_n signify_v a_o name_n of_o dignity_n but_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o they_o that_o be_v perfect_v the_o name_n order_n signify_v no_o name_n of_o dignity_n but_o rather_o be_v a_o name_n of_o subjection_n 15._o s._n denys_n in_o that_o sixth_o chapter_n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o those_o who_o be_v perfect_v be_v in_o general_n three_o the_o last_o as_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n explicate_v to_o wit_n they_o that_o be_v purge_v be_v 5._o that_o be_v catechumenes_n energumenes_n apostate_n vicious_a infirm_a and_o timide_a or_o fearful_a person_n the_o next_o above_o they_o be_v the_o people_n baptize_v and_o admit_v to_o the_o sacred_a euchariste_n the_o high_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v be_v the_o monk_n and_o religious_a who_o therefore_o be_v call_v according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o lanselius_n summus_n corum_fw-la qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la &_o perficiuntur_fw-la ordo_fw-la the_o chief_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v not_o the_o chief_a in_o the_o church_n because_o s._n denys_n place_v bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n before_o they_o but_o the_o first_o of_o those_o who_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v dion_n cart._n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n be_v perfectus_fw-la inter_fw-la perficiendos_fw-la perfect_a amongst_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v perfect_v but_o not_o amongst_o those_o that_o perfect_a other_o 6._o art_n 13._o super_fw-la that_o 6._o 16._o all_o this_o may_v be_v confirm_v by_o what_o s._n denys_n say_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n monk_n where_o check_v he_o for_o have_v kick_v a_o penitent_a who_o be_v confess_v to_o the_o priest_n and_o for_o contemptuouslie_o use_v the_o priest_n himself_o he_o take_v he_o up_o in_o these_o word_n nefas_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdorem_fw-la a_o ministris_fw-la qui_fw-la to_o superiores_fw-la sunt_fw-la aut_fw-la à _fw-la tui_fw-la ordinis_fw-la monachis_fw-la corrigi_fw-la &_o reprehendi_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a that_o a_o priest_n shall_v be_v correct_v or_o reprehend_v by_o the_o minister_n who_o be_v above_o thou_o or_o of_o the_o monk_n of_o they_o order_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n say_v sacerdotes_fw-la autem_fw-la nuncij_fw-la atque_fw-la interpretes_n secundum_fw-la pontifices_fw-la sunt_fw-la dininorum_fw-la iudiciorum_fw-la ab_fw-la eye_v rectè_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la tâ—_n per_fw-la medios_fw-la interiectosque_fw-la ministros_fw-la cum_fw-la tempus_fw-la posiulabit_fw-la divina_fw-la disce_fw-la à _fw-la quibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ut_fw-la monachus_fw-la esses_fw-la habuisti_fw-la an_fw-mi non_fw-la hoc_fw-la etiam_fw-la clamant_fw-la sacramysteria_fw-it neque_fw-la enim_fw-la planè_fw-la omnibus_fw-la aditus_fw-la ad_fw-la sancta_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la interdictus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la proximè_fw-la ad_fw-la ea_fw-la accedit_fw-la pontificum_fw-la ordo_fw-la deinde_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la tum_fw-la secundum_fw-la hos_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la ijs_fw-la autem_fw-la 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illuminate_v or_o perfect_v therefore_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o order_n of_o liturge_n deacon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d purgative_a order_n that_o of_o priest_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminative_a and_o that_o of_o the_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d
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you_o he_o speak_v to_o pope_n eugenius_n prove_v that_o you_o have_v the_o fullness_n of_o power_n but_o perchance_o not_o so_o of_o justice_n you_o do_v this_o because_o you_o can_v but_o whether_o you_o shall_v there_o be_v a_o question_n wherefore_o if_o s._n bernard_n in_o speak_v thus_o much_o against_o exemption_n to_o wit_n which_o have_v no_o lawful_a cause_n do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v power_n and_o just_a cause_n to_o exempte_v abbot_n and_o monastery_n from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n much_o less_o can_v m._n nicholas_n infer_v against_o m._n doctor_n who_o say_v not_o so_o much_o as_o he_o that_o he_o be_v against_o all_o exemption_n but_o as_o s._n bernard_n for_o all_o those_o word_n do_v allow_v of_o exemption_n when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n as_o when_o a_o monastery_n from_o the_o beginning_n have_v be_v exempte_n so_o might_n m._n doctor_n and_o so_o he_o do_v m._n nicholas_n mauclerus_n also_o who_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 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