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A91884 A moderate answer to Mr. Prins full reply to certaine observations on his first twelve questions: vvherein all his reasons and objections are candidly examined and refuted. A short description of the congregationall way discovered. Some arguments for indulgence to tender consciences modestly propounded. By the same author. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.; Robinson, Henry, 1605?-1664?, attributed name. 1645 (1645) Wing R1676; Thomason E26_20; ESTC R13022 43,033 54

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