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elder_n have_v so_o certain_a and_o perfect_a intelligence_n of_o the_o case_n of_o those_o church_n verse_n 23._o beside_o it_o have_v be_v a_o great_a neglect_n in_o those_o church_n if_o they_o have_v not_o send_v some_o to_o jerusalem_n as_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n do_v for_o if_o it_o be_v expedient_a which_o antioch_n do_v they_o ought_v no_o less_o to_o have_v do_v it_o their_o case_n be_v the_o same_o moreover_o it_o may_v be_v collect_v from_o verse_n 3._o that_o the_o other_o church_n through_o which_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n pass_v in_o their_o journey_n do_v send_v some_o companion_n along_o with_o they_o to_o join_v with_o they_o in_o their_o errand_n and_o to_o give_v their_o consent_n in_o the_o meeting_n at_o jerusalem_n unto_o that_o which_o be_v to_o be_v conclude_v this_o be_v the_o observation_n of_o cajetan_n mentzerus_fw-la calvin_n gualther_n and_o other_o interpreter_n upon_o that_o place_n last_o it_o be_v no_o way_n probable_a that_o the_o apostle_n 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counsel_n and_o advice_n but_o a_o decree_n impose_v with_o authority_n upon_o the_o church_n act_n 15.28_o and_o 16.4_o and_o 21.25_o ib_n and_o whereas_o it_o be_v affirm_v that_o the_o decree_n be_v mere_o apostolical_a and_o that_o the_o elder_n do_v no_o more_o than_o consent_v thereto_o even_o as_o the_o brethren_n do_v this_o be_v manifest_o against_o the_o text_n for_o act_n 16.4_o it_o be_v say_v of_o paul_n and_o silas_n as_o they_o go_v through_o the_o city_n they_o deliver_v they_o the_o decree_n for_o to_o keep_v that_o be_v ordain_v of_o the_o apostle_n &_o elder_n that_o be_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o act._n 21.25_o all_o the_o elder_n speak_v to_o paul_n say_v as_o touch_v the_o gentile_n which_o believe_v we_o have_v write_v and_o conclude_v that_o they_o observe_v no_o such_o thing_n that_o this_o be_v speak_v by_o all_o the_o elder_n be_v plain_a from_o v_o 18.19.20_o so_o then_o
assertion_n i_o intend_v to_o satisfy_v the_o scrupulous_a 23._o and_o to_o put_v to_o silence_v the_o malicious_a so_o also_o to_o confirm_v the_o conscience_n of_o such_o as_o be_v friend_n and_o savourer_n to_o the_o right_a way_n of_o church_n government_n whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n iâ—_n sin_n say_v the_o apostle_n yea_o though_o it_o be_v in_o a_o matter_n otherwise_o indifferent_a how_o much_o more_o be_v it_o necessary_a that_o we_o halt_v not_o in_o our_o judgement_n concern_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n but_o walk_v straight_o in_o the_o plerophory_n and_o full_a assurance_n of_o the_o same_o from_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o say_v again_o from_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o as_o it_o be_v not_o my_o meaning_n to_o commend_v this_o form_n because_o it_o be_v scotland_n 1.9_o so_o i_o hope_v assure_o that_o my_o countryman_n will_v not_o despise_v god_n ordinance_n because_o it_o be_v scotland_n practice_n but_o rather_o follow_v they_o in_o so_o far_o as_o they_o follow_v christ_n and_o the_o scripture_n this_o therefore_o i_o pray_v 2.7_o that_o thy_o love_n may_v abound_v yet_o more_o and_o more_o in_o knowledge_n and_o in_o all_o judgement_n that_o thou_o may_v approve_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v excellent_a consider_v what_o i_o say_v and_o the_o lord_n give_v thou_o understanding_n in_o all_o thing_n amen_n the_o content_n of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o treatise_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o word_n elder_a lay-elder_n ruling-eld_a four_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n elder_a in_o scripture_n of_o the_o nickname_n of_o lay-elder_n that_o the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o laity_n ought_v to_o be_v banish_v of_o the_o name_n of_o ruling-elders_a and_o the_o reason_n thereof_o chap._n ii_o of_o the_o function_n of_o ruling-elders_a and_o what_o sâ—re_v of_o officer_n they_o be_v of_o the_o distinction_n of_o pastor_n doctor_n elder_n and_o deacon_n of_o 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of_o they_o under_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n but_o not_o under_o a_o infidel_n that_o ruling-elders_a do_v not_o prejudge_v the_o power_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n but_o the_o prelacy_n do_v which_o confute_v whitegift_n that_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v not_o come_v in_o place_n of_o the_o jewish_a senior_n which_o confute_v saravia_n chap._n xiii_o whether_o ruling-elders_a have_v the_o power_n of_o decisive_a voice_n when_o they_o they_o sit_v in_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n the_o affirmative_a prove_v by_o nine_o reason_n two_o objection_n to_o the_o contrary_n answer_v the_o place_n 1_o cor._n 14.32_o explain_v chap._n xiiii_o of_o the_o ordination_n of_o ruling-elders_a of_o the_o continuance_n of_o their_o office_n and_o of_o their_o maintenance_n that_o the_o want_n of_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o ordination_n the_o want_n of_o maintenance_n and_o the_o not_o continue_v always_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o office_n can_v be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o 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tim._n 4.14_o confute_v that_o the_o apostle_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o presbytery_n aâ—_n assembly_n of_o presbyter_n whereof_o also_o father_n and_o counsel_n do_v speak_v the_o warrant_n and_o authority_n of_o our_o classical_a presbytery_n declare_v both_o by_o good_a reason_n and_o by_o the_o apostolical_a pattern_n for_o assertion_n of_o the_o latter_a it_o be_v prove_v 1._o that_o in_o many_o of_o those_o city_n wherein_o the_o apostle_n plant_v christian_n religion_n there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n of_o christian_n then_o do_v or_o can_v ordinary_o assemble_v into_o one_o place_n 2._o that_o in_o these_o city_n there_o be_v a_o plurality_n of_o pastor_n 3._o that_o yet_o the_o whole_a within_o the_o city_n be_v one_o church_n 4._o that_o the_o whole_a be_v govern_v by_o one_o common_a presbytery_n from_o all_o which_o a_o corollary_n be_v draw_v for_o these_o our_o classical_a presbytery_n chap._n iu._n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n provincial_a and_o national_n that_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o synod_n differ_v from_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o presbytery_n the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n
in_o synod_n be_v threefold_a dogmatic_a diataktick_a and_o critic_n whether_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o synod_n may_v be_v press_v upon_o such_o as_o profess_v scruple_n of_o conscience_n there_o anent_o chap._n v._o the_o first_o argument_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n and_o the_o subordination_n of_o presbytery_n â—â—erto_o take_v from_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n that_o the_o church_n be_v a_o certain_a kind_n of_o republic_n and_o in_o thing_n which_o be_v common_a to_o she_o with_o other_o society_n be_v guide_v by_o the_o same_o light_n of_o nature_n which_o guide_v they_o of_o this_o kind_n be_v her_o assembly_n chap._n vi_o the_o second_o argument_n take_v from_o christ_n institution_n the_o will_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v show_v two_o way_n 1._o because_o else_o he_o have_v not_o sufficient_o provide_v for_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o his_o church_n 2._o he_o have_v commit_v spiritual_a power_n and_o authority_n to_o the_o assembly_n and_o court_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_a yet_o have_v not_o determine_v in_o scripture_n all_o the_o particular_a kind_n degree_n and_o bound_n thereof_o and_o that_o for_o three_o reason_n the_o particular_a kind_n of_o synod_n appoint_v by_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n and_o general_a warrant_n and_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n be_v mix_v though_o not_o mere_a divine_a ordinance_n chap._n vii_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o jewish_a church_n that_o there_o be_v among_o the_o jew_n aâ—_n lest_o two_o ecclesiastical_a court_n the_o synagogue_n and_o the_o sanedrim_n that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o synagogical_a consistory_n be_v not_o civil_a but_o spiritual_a prove_v against_o sutliffe_n that_o the_o jew_n have_v a_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a sanedrim_n distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a sanedrim_n prove_v against_o the_o same_o sutliffe_n both_o from_o the_o institution_n thereof_o deuâ—_n 17._o and_o from_o the_o restitution_n 2_o chron._n 19_o and_o from_o the_o practice_n jer._n 26._o the_o consequence_n of_o our_o argument_n prove_v against_o such_o as_o deny_v it_o that_o we_o ought_v to_o follow_v the_o jewish_a church_n in_o those_o thing_n which_o it_o have_v not_o as_o it_o be_v jewish_n but_o under_o the_o common_a respect_n and_o account_v of_o a_o political_a church_n chap._n viii_o the_o four_o argument_n take_v from_o act_n 15._o that_o we_o find_v act_n 15._o a_o synod_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n with_o authority_n impose_v their_o decree_n upon_o many_o particular_a congregation_n four_o answer_n make_v to_o this_o argument_n find_v not_o to_o be_v satisfactory_a chap._n ix_o the_o six_o argument_n token_n from_o the_o geometrical_a proportion_n this_o argument_n from_o proportion_n do_v hold_v whether_o we_o compare_v the_o collective_n of_o church_n among_o themselves_o or_o the_o representative_n among_o themselves_o or_o the_o representative_n and_o collective_n together_o chap._n x._o the_o six_o argument_n take_v from_o necessity_n that_o without_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o preserve_v unity_n or_o to_o make_v a_o end_n of_o controversy_n other_o remedy_n declare_v to_o be_v ineffectual_a chap._n xi_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n answer_v the_o place_n math._n 18.17_o discuss_v that_o one_o visible_a political_a church_n may_v comprehend_v many_o congregation_n prove_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o presbytery_n and_o synod_n do_v not_o rob_v the_o congregation_n of_o their_o liberty_n as_o the_o prelacy_n do_v a_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v consider_v either_o metaphysical_o or_o political_o this_o distinction_n explain_v serve_v to_o obviate_v sundry_a argument_n alledgeâ—_n for_o the_o independent_a power_n of_o congregation_n other_o two_o objection_n answer_v which_o have_v be_v late_o make_v the_o first_o part_n concern_v rul_a elder_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o word_n elder_a lay_v elder_a rule_v elder_a the_o word_n elder_a answer_v to_o zaken_v in_o the_o hebrew_n &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o greek_a it_o have_v four_o different_a signification_n 1._o it_o note_v age._n 2_o antiquity_n 3._o venerability_n 4._o a_o office_n in_o the_o first_o signification_n elder_a be_v oppose_v to_o young_a as_o 1_o tim._n 5.1_o rebuke_v not_o a_o elder_a but_o entreat_v he_o as_o a_o father_n &_o the_o young_a man_n as_o brethren_n 1_o pet._n 5.5_o likewise_o you_o young_a submit_v yourselves_o unto_o the_o elder_n in_o this_o sense_n be_v the_o apostle_n john_n call_v the_o elder_a because_o he_o outlive_v the_o other_o apostle_n 2_o john_n 1._o and_o 3._o vers_fw-la 1._o in_o the_o second_o signification_n elder_a be_v oppose_v to_o modern_a mat._n 15.2_o why_o do_v thy_o disciple_n transgress_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o elder_n that_o be_v of_o they_o of_o old_a time_n mat._n 5.21_o in_o the_o three_o signification_n we_o find_v the_o word_n isa._n 3._o where_o the_o lord_n say_v that_o he_o will_v take_v away_o from_o israel_n the_o prudent_a and_o the_o ancient_a vezaken_v that_o be_v the_o worthy_n among_o they_o and_o such_o as_o be_v respect_v for_o wisdom_n the_o same_o word_n and_o peradverture_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n be_v turn_v elder_a exod._n 2.16_o eth-zikne_a israel_n the_o elder_n of_o israel_n so_o the_o spanish_a seijor_n the_o french_a seigneur_n the_o italian_a signore_v all_o come_n from_o the_o latin_a senior_n signify_v a_o man_n of_o respect_n or_o one_o venerable_a for_o dignity_n gift_n prudence_n or_o piety_n contrariwise_o man_n of_o no_o worth_n nor_o wisdom_n man_n despicable_a for_o lack_v of_o gift_n and_o understanding_n be_v call_v child_n isa._n 3.4.12_o ephes._n 4.14_o but_o it_o be_v the_o four_o signification_n which_o we_o have_v now_o to_o do_v withal_o and_o so_o a_o elder_n be_v a_o spiritual_a officer_n appoint_v by_o god_n and_o call_v to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n act_v 14.23_o when_o they_o have_v by_o voice_n make_v they_o elder_n in_o every_o church_n they_o have_v the_o name_n of_o elder_n because_o of_o the_o maturity_n of_o knowledge_n wisdom_n gift_n and_o gravity_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v in_o they_o for_o which_o reason_n also_o the_o name_n of_o senator_n be_v borrow_v from_o senes_fw-la before_o we_o come_v to_o speak_v particular_o of_o those_o elder_n of_o which_o our_o purpose_n be_v to_o treat_v it_o be_v fit_a we_o shall_v know_v they_o by_o their_o right_a name_n lest_o we_o nickname_v and_o miscall_a they_o some_o reproachful_o and_o other_o ignorant_o call_v they_o lay_v elder_n but_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o clergy_n &_o laity_n be_v popish_a and_o antichristian_a and_o they_o who_o have_v narrow_o consider_v the_o record_n of_o ancient_a time_n have_v note_v this_o distinction_n as_o one_o of_o the_o ground_n whence_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n have_v the_o beginning_n of_o it_o 8._o the_o name_n of_o clergy_n appropriate_a to_o minister_n be_v full_a of_o pride_n and_o vainglory_n and_o have_v make_v the_o holy_a people_n of_o god_n to_o be_v despise_v as_o if_o they_o be_v profane_a and_o unclean_a in_o comparison_n of_o their_o minister_n 37._o gerard_n liken_v those_o who_o take_v to_o themselves_o the_o name_n of_o the_o clergy_n to_o the_o pharisee_n who_o call_v themselves_o by_o that_o name_n for_o that_o their_o holiness_n do_v separate_v they_o from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o jew_n for_o this_o etymology_n of_o the_o name_n pharisee_fw-mi he_o cit_v tertullian_n origen_n epiphanius_n ambrose_n and_o confirm_v it_o from_o luke_n 18.10_o hence_o be_v it_o that_o some_o counsel_n discharge_v the_o laity_n from_o presume_v to_o enter_v within_o the_o choir_n 69._o or_o to_o stand_v among_o the_o clergy_n near_o the_o altar_n two_o reason_n be_v allege_v why_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d first_o because_o the_o lord_n be_v their_o 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bishop_n
flock_n according_a to_o this_o gloss_n for_o peter_n oppose_v the_o lording_n over_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v ensample_n to_o the_o flock_n sure_o if_o this_o popish_a gloss_n be_v true_a protestant_n in_o their_o commentary_n and_o sermon_n have_v go_v wide_a from_o that_o text._n but_o mathias_n the_o apostle_n be_v choose_v by_o lot_n 26_o what_o then_o by_o what_o reason_n do_v the_o canon_n law_n draw_v from_o hence_o a_o name_n common_a to_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n cleros_fw-la let_v 〈◊〉_d then_o banish_v from_o we_o such_o popish_a name_n and_o send_v they_o home_o to_o rome_n 1._o bellarmin_n think_v we_o have_v do_v so_o long_o ere_o now_o for_o he_o make_v this_o one_o of_o his_o controvert_v head_n whether_o we_o may_v right_o call_v some_o christian_n the_o clergy_n and_o other_o the_o laity_n or_o not_o ascribe_v the_o negative_a to_o protestant_n the_o affirmative_a to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o beside_o the_o clergy_n 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&_o difficultatem_fw-la invenâ—endi_fw-la curatos_fw-la sufficientes_fw-la &_o idoneos_fw-la say_v cardinal_n cajetan_n add_v further_o male_a consultum_fw-la populo_fw-la christiano_n invenitur_fw-la sine_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la supplemento_fw-la which_o reason_n agree_v well_o to_o rule_v elder_n for_o 1._o parish_n contain_v so_o many_o that_o the_o minister_n can_v oversee_v all_o and_o every_o one_o without_o help_n 2._o sufficient_a and_o fit_a minister_n shall_v hardly_o be_v every_o where_o find_v 3._o it_o be_v find_v by_o experience_n that_o sin_n and_o scandal_n be_v never_o well_o take_v need_n to_o and_o redress_v where_o rule_v elder_n be_v not_o to_o let_v all_o this_o pass_n if_o any_o man_n will_v needs_o retain_v the_o name_n of_o lay_v elder_n 28._o yet_o say_v gersomus_n bucerus_n what_o aspersion_n be_v that_o to_o our_o church_n be_v it_o any_o other_o thing_n then_o that_o which_o papist_n object_v to_o we_o for_o admit_v lay_v man_n into_o counsel_n they_o who_o have_v place_n in_o the_o high_a and_o most_o supreme_a assembly_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o the_o weighty_a matter_n be_v determine_v ought_v much_o more_o to_o be_v admit_v into_o inferior_a meeting_n such_o as_o presbytery_n be_v but_o if_o we_o will_v speak_v with_o scripture_n we_o shall_v call_v they_o rule_v elder_n rom._n 12.8_o he_o that_o rule_v 1_o tim._n 5.17_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o they_o be_v call_v rule_v elder_n non_fw-la quia_fw-la soli_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la solum_fw-la praesunt_fw-la pastor_n rule_n the_o church_n even_o as_o they_o do_v but_o pastor_n do_v something_o more_o from_o which_o they_o may_v be_v design_v whereas_o the_o elder_n of_o which_o we_o be_v to_o speak_v have_v no_o other_o employment_n which_o can_v give_v they_o a_o designation_n except_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o church_n only_o that_o wicked_a railer_n lisimâ—chus_n nicanor_n who_o assume_v the_o name_n but_o forget_v to_o put_v on_o the_o vizorne_n of_o a_o jesuit_n in_o his_o 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ordinary_o most_o convenient_a that_o the_o office_n of_o attend_v the_o sick_a be_v commit_v to_o woman_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o essential_o necessary_a to_o the_o offifice_n and_o as_o aretius_n note_v upon_o the_o place_n we_o may_v under_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d comprehend_v not_o only_a widow_n appoint_v to_o attend_v the_o sick_a but_o old_a man_n appoint_v to_o receive_v and_o entertain_v stranger_n 746._o which_o be_v also_o judicious_o observe_v by_o martyr_n beside_o when_o the_o apostle_n 1_o tim._n 5._o teach_v what_o be_v require_v in_o widow_n who_o shall_v be_v make_v diaconess_n this_o he_o require_v among_o other_o thing_n that_o they_o be_v not_o such_o as_o live_v in_o pleasure_n and_o idleness_n and_o take_v not_o care_n to_o provide_v for_o their_o own_o house_n verse_n 6.8_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o though_o erasmus_n and_o beza_n turn_v in_o the_o
feminine_a quod_fw-la si_fw-la qua_fw-la yet_o our_o english_a translator_n and_o many_o good_a interpreter_n turn_v it_o in_o the_o masculine_a and_o sure_o it_o shall_v have_v more_o weight_n if_o it_o agree_v to_o man_n as_o well_o as_o woman_n say_v calvin_n upon_o that_o place_n now_o they_o who_o read_v in_o the_o masculine_a that_o which_o the_o apostle_n say_v there_o of_o widow_n will_v not_o we_o suppose_v blame_v we_o for_o read_v rom._n 12.8_o in_o the_o masculine_a also_o he_o that_o show_v mercy_n we_o conclude_v our_o three_o argument_n thus_o whatsoever_o office-bearer_n in_o the_o church_n be_v different_a from_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o yet_o rule_v the_o church_n he_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o roll_a elder_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mention_v rom._n 12.8_o be_v different_a from_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o yet_o rule_v the_o church_n ergo._fw-la chap._n vi_o argument_n 4._o from_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o our_o four_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o where_o we_o find_v again_o a_o enumeration_n of_o sundry_a office_n in_o the_o church_n though_o not_o so_o perfect_a as_o that_o rom._n 12._o and_o among_o other_o help_n that_o be_v deacon_n and_o government_n that_o be_v rule_v elâ—ers_n where_o we_o can_v enough_o admire_v how_o the_o author_n of_o the_o new_a english_a translation_n be_v bold_a to_o turn_v it_o thus_o help_v in_o government_n so_o to_o make_v one_o of_o two_o and_o to_o elude_v our_o argument_n the_o original_n have_v they_o clear_o distinguish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o i_o find_v some_o late_a edition_n of_o the_o english_a translation_n to_o have_v it_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o greek_a help_n government_n how_o this_o change_n have_v be_v make_v in_o the_o english_a bibles_n i_o know_v not_o chrysostome_n expound_v this_o place_n do_v not_o take_v help_n and_o governement_n to_o be_v all_o one_o as_o bilson_n have_v bold_o 204_o but_o false_o aver_v nay_o chrysostome_n make_v the_o meaning_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v ut_fw-la pauperes_fw-la suscipiamus_fw-la and_o the_o meaning_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o expound_v to_o be_v praeesse_fw-la ac_fw-la curam_fw-la gerere_fw-la &_o res_fw-la administrare_fw-la spirituales_fw-la the_o former_a belong_v to_o deacon_n the_o late_a to_o rule_v elder_n two_o answer_n be_v make_v to_o this_o place_n first_o 26._o d._n field_n answer_v that_o both_o here_o and_o rom._n 12.8_o we_o reason_n à _fw-la genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la affirmatiuè_fw-la because_o the_o apostle_n mention_v governor_n who_o he_o require_v to_o rule_v with_o diligence_n therefore_o they_o be_v such_o elder_n as_o we_o plead_v for_o 114.115_o whitgift_n say_v the_o word_n governor_n 1._o cor._n 12.28_o and_o ruler_n rom._n 12.8_o be_v general_n and_o may_v either_o signify_v christian_a magistrate_n or_o ecclesiastical_a as_o archbishop_n bishop_n or_o whatsoever_o other_o by_o lawful_a authority_n be_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n we_o reply_v 12.8_o first_o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v mention_v ruler_n or_o governor_n alone_o then_o may_v we_o have_v indeed_o guess_v that_o he_o mean_v a_o general_a kind_n only_o and_o no_o particular_a species_n but_o since_o he_o have_v enumerate_v so_o many_o species_n as_o apostle_n prophet_n teacher_n gift_n of_o miracle_n gift_n of_o tongue_n etc._n etc._n sure_o they_o do_v either_o most_o ignorant_o or_o most_o malicious_o err_v who_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n put_v a_o genus_fw-la in_o the_o midst_n of_o so_o many_o species_n second_o the_o apostle_n speak_v only_o of_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n god_n have_v set_v some_o in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n what_o mean_v whitgift_n to_o extend_v his_o word_n to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n t._n c._n answer_v he_o that_o he_o can_v not_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o church_n and_o common-wealh_a and_o so_o betwixt_o the_o church_n officer_n and_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n he_o reply_v that_o he_o can_v not_o put_v any_o such_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o that_o the_o one_o may_v not_o be_v comprehend_v under_o the_o apostle_n word_n as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o for_o i_o utter_o renounce_v say_v he_o that_o distinction_n invent_v by_o papist_n and_o maintain_v by_o you_o which_o be_v that_o christian_a magistrate_n govern_v not_o in_o the_o respect_n they_o be_v christian_n but_o in_o the_o respect_n they_o be_v man_n and_o that_o they_o govern_v christian_n not_o in_o that_o they_o be_v christian_n but_o in_o that_o they_o be_v man_n which_o be_v to_o give_v no_o more_o authority_n to_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n then_o to_o the_o great_a turk_n let_v our_o opposite_n here_o go_v by_o the_o ear_n among_o themselves_o for_o m._n io._n wemy_n hold_v 123._o that_o all_o king_n have_v alike_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o church_n infidel_n as_o well_o as_o christian_a king_n we_o hold_v that_o christian_a magistrate_n govern_v their_o subject_n neither_o as_o christian_n nor_o as_o man_n but_o as_o magistrate_n and_o they_o govern_v christian_a subject_n as_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o like_a manner_n christian_n be_v govern_v by_o magistrate_n neither_o as_o they_o be_v christian_n nor_o as_o they_o be_v man_n but_o as_o they_o be_v subject_n and_o they_o be_v govern_v by_o christian_a magistrate_n as_o they_o be_v christian_a subject_n and_o we_o all_o maintain_v that_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v great_a authority_n over_o christian_a subject_n in_o thing_n pertain_v to_o the_o conservation_n and_o purgation_n of_o religion_n which_o the_o great_a turk_n nor_o no_o infidel_n magistrate_n have_v or_o can_v have_v except_o he_o become_v christian._n but_o what_o do_v i_o digress_v after_o the_o impertinency_n of_o a_o rove_a disputer_n for_o what_o of_o all_o this_o let_v christian_n magistrate_n govern_v as_o you_o will_v will_v any_o man_n say_v that_o his_o office_n be_v ecclesiastical_a or_o to_o be_v reckon_v among_o apostle_n prophet_n teacher_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o let_v we_o proceed_v to_o the_o other_o answer_n which_o be_v make_v by_o saravia_n 115._o he_o say_v that_o though_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 12.28_o reckon_v out_o different_a gift_n we_o need_v not_o for_o that_o understand_v different_a person_n nor_o make_v different_a order_n and_o office_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n heal_a tongue_n and_o prophecy_n which_o may_v be_v and_o be_v in_o one_o man_n whereupon_o he_o resolve_v the_o text_n thus_o that_o first_o paul_n set_v down_o three_o distinct_a order_n apostle_n prophet_n and_o teacher_n then_o he_o reckon_v forth_o these_o common_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o govern_v among_o the_o rest_n which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o three_o 191._o the_o apostle_n say_v not_o governor_n but_o government_n say_v sutcliffe_n to_o show_v that_o he_o mean_v of_o faculty_n not_o of_o person_n so_o say_v bilson_n in_o like_a manner_n for_o confutation_n of_o all_o this_o it_o be_v to_o be_v remember_v first_o that_o the_o gift_n speak_v of_o by_o the_o apostle_n be_v give_v of_o god_n for_o the_o common_a good_a and_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n and_o god_n have_v set_v some_o in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n second_o these_o gift_n the_o apostle_n consider_v not_o abstractâ—â—è_fw-la à _fw-la subjectis_fw-la but_o as_o they_o be_v in_o man_n endue_v with_o they_o as_o be_v plain_a for_o he_o have_v before_o reckon_v forth_o the_o gift_n themselves_o vers_fw-la 8.9.10_o and_o if_o here_o he_o do_v no_o more_o but_o reckon_v they_o over_o again_o this_o be_v actum_fw-la agere_fw-la he_o be_v now_o upon_o the_o use_n and_o exercise_v of_o these_o gift_n by_o the_o office-bearer_n of_o the_o church_n vers_fw-la 27.29_o and_o though_o the_o apostle_n vers_fw-la 28._o speak_v concretive_o only_a of_o these_o three_o apostle_n prophet_n and_o teacher_n yet_o the_o rest_n must_v be_v understand_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n per_fw-la metoxymiam_fw-la adjuncti_fw-la as_o when_o we_o speak_v of_o magistracy_n and_o ministry_n for_o magistrate_n and_o minister_n yea_o the_o apostle_n vers_fw-la 29.30_o so_o expound_v himself_o where_o he_o speak_v concretiuè_a of_o the_o same_o thing_n whereof_o he_o seem_v before_o to_o speak_v abstractiuè_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o they_o as_o they_o be_v in_o different_a subject_n which_o be_v most_o evident_a both_o by_o his_o protasis_n wherein_o he_o do_v again_o press_v the_o same_o simile_n of_o the_o several_a office_n not_o of_o the_o same_o but_o of_o several_a member_n of_o the_o body_n and_o likewise_o by_o the_o word_n immediate_o subjoin_v be_v all_o apostle_n be_v all_o prophet_n be_v all_o teacher_n he_o will_v have_v stand_v here_o and_o say_v no_o more_o if_o he_o have_v mean_v to_o distinguish_v these_o three_o order_n only_o as_o saravia_n expound_v he_o but_o now_o to_o make_v it_o plain_o
question_n sutcliffe_n have_v give_v we_o other_o three_o which_o be_v no_o better_o 12._o first_o he_o say_v that_o if_o there_o be_v here_o any_o distinction_n of_o rule_v elder_n it_o be_v betwixt_o those_o that_o labour_n more_o abundant_o and_o painful_o and_o betwixt_o those_o that_o labour_v not_o so_o much_o 219._o this_o gloss_n be_v also_o receive_v by_o saravia_n by_o titen_n by_o bishop_n hall_n in_o his_o assertion_n of_o episcopacy_n by_o divine_a right_n they_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o preach_v another_o thing_n to_o labour_n in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n answ._n 1._o it_o be_v not_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n but_o the_o ministry_n of_o rule_v which_o here_o the_o apostle_n make_v common_a to_o both_o 2._o this_o exposition_n allow_v not_o only_a honour_n but_o double_a honour_n yea_o a_o high_a degree_n of_o double_a honour_n to_o such_o as_o take_v no_o pain_n in_o preach_v but_o be_v spare_v therein_o 3._o it_o make_v the_o apostle_n speech_n not_o to_o grow_v but_o to_o fall_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o they_o have_v stretch_v it_o to_o the_o full_a note_v only_o great_a labour_n whereas_o to_o rule_v well_o import_v both_o great_a labour_n and_o great_a prudence_n dexterity_n faithfulness_n and_o charity_n beside_o 4._o it_o make_v the_o last_o part_n of_o the_o speech_n in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n to_o be_v superfluous_a for_o they_o hold_v that_o all_o the_o difference_n here_o be_v in_o the_o measure_n or_o manner_n of_o labour_n and_o no_o difrence_n in_o re_fw-mi subjecta_fw-la 5._o all_o who_o have_v any_o charge_n in_o the_o ministry_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o thess._n 5.11_o if_o they_o be_v at_o all_o faithful_a and_o worthy_a of_o honour_n then_o do_v they_o labour_v 1_o cor._n 3.8_o yea_o in_o labour_v watch_n as_o they_o that_o must_v give_v account_n heb._n 13.27_o 6._o the_o rhemist_n do_v interpret_v the_o apostle_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n but_o cartwright_n answer_v they_o if_o he_o have_v mean_v any_o extraordinary_a labour_n he_o will_v rather_o have_v say_v 2.9_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o other_o where_o he_o use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o a_o degree_n of_o painful_a travel_n above_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v put_v for_o common_a labour_n rome_n 16.12_o but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o next_o commentary_n shall_v be_v better_o the_o word_n say_v sutcliffe_n be_v to_o be_v render_v thus_o let_v elder_n that_o rule_v well_o be_v count_v worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n labour_v great_o in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n so_o that_o the_o late_a part_n of_o the_o speech_n be_v add_v exegetical_o to_o show_v who_o they_o be_v that_o rule_n well_o to_o wit_n these_o who_o labour_v great_o in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n that_o the_o word_n be_v so_o to_o be_v understand_v he_o undertake_v to_o prove_v from_o the_o text_n itself_o for_o say_v he_o one_o who_o purpose_v to_o say_v in_o greek_a especial_o they_o who_o labour_n will_v not_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thus_o change_v the_o participle_n into_o a_o verb_n and_o the_o prepositive_a article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v write_v with_o a_o aspiration_n alone_o into_o the_o subjunctive_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cum_fw-la accentu_fw-la gravi_fw-la for_o this_o answer_v to_o the_o relative_a who_o which_o the_o prepositive_a article_n do_v never_o moreover_o say_v he_o if_o the_o apostle_n will_v have_v distinguish_v elder_n into_o these_o that_o preach_v and_o these_o that_o preach_v not_o he_o will_v have_v add_v the_o adversative_a particle_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v indeed_o especial_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d alone_o without_o â—_o signify_v great_o or_o much_o as_o here_o it_o do_v answ._n 1._o this_o read_n of_o 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among_o you_o so_o apoc._n 7.14_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d these_o be_v they_o who_o come_v out_o of_o great_a tribulation_n many_o place_n of_o this_o kind_n there_o be_v which_o i_o need_v not_o cite_v 3._o a_o ellipsis_n of_o the_o particle_n â—_o be_v no_o error_n no_o not_o in_o member_n of_o a_o opposition_n as_o col._n 2.23_o much_o less_o in_o the_o distinction_n of_o a_o species_n from_o the_o genus_fw-la 4._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o â—_o be_v put_v for_o especial_o as_o well_o as_o when_o it_o have_v â—_o 1_o tim._n 4.10_o who_o be_v the_o saviour_n of_o all_o man_n especial_o of_o these_o that_o believe_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o skill_a grecian_n will_v have_v we_o to_o conceive_v it_o thus_o god_n be_v the_o saviour_n of_o all_o man_n who_o believe_v much_o and_o so_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o comfortless_a text_n for_o those_o of_o little_a faith_n sure_o this_o man_n have_v need_v to_o be_v more_o happy_a in_o his_o three_o exposition_n and_o 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decree_v act._n 16.4_o in_o the_o mean_a while_o be_v matter_n make_v know_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o do_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o act._n 15.22_o if_o it_o be_v object_v from_o verse_n 12_o that_o the_o whole_a multitude_n be_v present_a in_o the_o synod_n i_o answer_v we_o may_v understand_v with_o piscator_fw-la the_o multitude_n there_o speak_v of_o to_o be_v the_o multitude_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o elder_n v._o 6._o or_o if_o we_o shall_v understand_v by_o the_o multitude_n the_o whole_a church_n this_o prove_v only_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n hear_v the_o question_n dispute_v not_o that_o they_o be_v all_o present_a at_o the_o judge_a and_o determine_v of_o it_o if_o it_o be_v further_o object_v that_o the_o synodall_n epistle_n come_v not_o only_o from_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n but_o from_o the_o brethren_n that_o be_v the_o whole_a church_n the_o answer_n be_v easy_a the_o brethren_n be_v mention_v because_o it_o be_v do_v with_o their_o 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lay_v hand_n on_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o ananias_n also_o before_o that_o time_n have_v lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o paul_n 2._o the_o presbytery_n may_v ordain_v timothy_n to_o be_v a_o elder_a if_o so_o be_v he_o be_v ordain_v a_o elder_a before_o he_o be_v ordain_v a_o evangelist_n 3._o if_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o presbytery_n by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o their_o hand_n together_o with_o the_o apostle_n hand_n in_o the_o extraordinary_a mission_n of_o timothy_n be_v require_v much_o more_o may_v it_o be_v put_v out_o of_o question_n that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n the_o full_a power_n of_o ordain_v ordinary_a minister_n but_o it_o be_v further_o object_v by_o sutlivius_n that_o this_o can_v not_o be_v such_o a_o presbytery_n as_o be_v among_o we_o because_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n pertain_v to_o none_o but_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n 8.10_o ans._n 1._o the_o child_n of_o israel_n lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o the_o levite_n &_o we_o will_v know_v his_o reason_n why_o he_o deny_v the_o like_a power_n to_o rule_v elder_n now_o especial_o since_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v but_o a_o gesture_n of_o one_o pray_v and_o a_o moral_a sign_n declare_v the_o person_n pray_v for_o 2._o howsoever_o our_o practice_n whâ—ch_n be_v also_o approve_a by_o good_a divine_n be_v 37._o to_o put_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n and_o the_o external_a right_n thereof_o which_o be_v imposition_n of_o hand_n ascribe_v the_o former_a to_o the_o whole_a presbytery_n both_o pastor_n and_o elder_n and_o reserve_v the_o latter_a to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n yet_o to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o thus_o have_v we_o evince_v the_o apostle_n meaning_n when_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o presbytery_n and_o this_o consistory_n we_o find_v to_o have_v continue_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n have_v no_o power_n to_o judge_v any_o cause_n without_o the_o presence_n advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o their_o presbyter_n conc._n carth._n 4._o can_n 23._o field_n forbesse_n saravia_n and_o douname_n do_v all_o acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v so_o and_o so_o do_v bellarmine_n de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n l._n 1._o c._n 8._o of_o this_o presbytery_n speak_v cyprian_a omni_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o presbytery_n speak_v the_o same_o cyprian_a lib._n 2._o ep._n 8._o &_o lib._n 4._o ep._n 5._o ignatius_n ad_fw-la trall_n and_o hierom_n in_o esa._n 3_o we_o find_v it_o also_o in_o conc_fw-fr ancyr_n can_v 18_o and_o in_o conc_fw-fr carthag_n 4._o can_n 35.40_o 254.255_o doctor_n forbesse_n allege_v that_o the_o word_n presbytery_n for_o fifteen_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n do_v signify_v no_o other_o thing_n in_o the_o church_n than_o a_o diocesan_n synod_n but_o herein_o if_o he_o have_v understand_v himself_o he_o speak_v not_o so_o much_o against_o presbytery_n as_o against_o prelate_n for_o a_o diocese_n of_o old_a be_v bound_v within_o one_o city_n 2._o tumque_fw-la jampridem_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la provincias_fw-la &_o per_fw-la urbes_fw-la singulas_fw-la ordinati_fw-la sint_fw-la episcopi_fw-la etc._n etc._n say_v cyprian_n it_o be_v necessary_a to_o ordain_v bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 10._o say_v chrysostome_n speak_v of_o the_o primitive_a time_n yea_o in_o country_n village_n also_o be_v bishop_n who_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rural_a bishop_n who_o episcopal_a office_n though_o limit_v yet_o be_v allow_v in_o the_o council_n of_o ancyra_n can_v 13._o and_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n can_v 8._o &_o 10._o 4._o sozomen_n record_v that_o the_o village_n majuma_n which_o be_v sometime_o a_o suburb_n of_o the_o city_n gaza_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n of_o gaza_n but_o have_v its_o 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wherein_o they_o do_v more_o trust_n the_o deceivable_a goodness_n of_o their_o own_o intention_n then_o advert_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n these_o thing_n premit_v i_o come_v now_o to_o that_o which_o be_v principal_o intend_v viz._n by_o what_o warrant_n and_o quâ—_n jure_v the_o classical_a presbytery_n among_o we_o make_v up_o out_o of_o many_o neighbour_a congregation_n shall_v be_v the_o ordinary_a court_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n at_o least_o in_o all_o matter_n of_o high_a importance_n which_o do_v concern_v either_o all_o or_o any_o of_o those_o congregation_n for_o resolution_n hereof_o we_o must_v understand_v 1._o that_o cause_v common_a to_o many_o congregation_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o any_o one_o of_o they_o but_o by_o the_o great_a presbytery_n common_a to_o they_o all_o 2._o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v that_o particular_a congregation_n at_o least_o the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o they_o have_v not_o in_o their_o proper_a 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magistrate_n vers_fw-la 11._o and_o so_o be_v the_o prince_n &_o ruler_n distinguish_v from_o the_o elder_n act._n 4.5_o judg._n 8.14_o deut._n 5.23_o jos._n 8.33_o five_o we_o will_v know_v whether_o he_o think_v that_o all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o the_o jew_n sit_v in_o council_n with_o the_o priest_n or_o some_o of_o they_o only_o if_o some_o only_a we_o desire_v either_o proof_n or_o probability_n who_o they_o be_v and_o how_o many_o if_o all_o then_o shall_v we_o by_o the_o like_a reason_n admit_v not_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n alone_o which_o he_o seem_v to_o say_v into_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o church_n but_o all_o magistrate_n whatsoever_o and_o what_o a_o confusion_n shall_v that_o be_v six_o those_o elder_n that_o sit_v in_o the_o civil_a sanedrim_n be_v ruler_n by_o their_o sit_v there_o but_o the_o elder_n which_o sit_v in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a sanedrim_n either_o be_v not_o civil_a magistrate_n or_o at_o least_o sit_v not_o there_o as_o magistrate_n so_o do_v 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presbyter_n nor_o deacon_n it_o be_v manifest_a for_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o all_o these_o in_o act_n purgat_fw-la cacil_a &_o fal._n and_o they_o be_v call_v by_o isiâ—ore_n and_o pâ—rpurius_n seniores_fw-la plebis_fw-la beside_o it_o be_v strange_a if_o august_n bishop_n of_o hippo_n write_v to_o his_o clergy_n shall_v distinguish_v either_o the_o deacon_n from_o the_o presbyter_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o clergy_n which_o be_v common_a to_o both_o or_o some_o preach_a presbyter_n from_o other_o preach_a presbyter_n by_o the_o name_n of_o senior_n on_o the_o other_o part_n that_o they_o be_v not_o magistrate_n of_o city_n it_o be_v no_o less_o plain_a for_o they_o be_v call_v seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la and_o ecclesiastici_fw-la viri_fw-la they_o instruct_v the_o people_n and_o have_v place_n in_o judge_v of_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a 253._o but_o elsewhere_o bilson_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o prove_v that_o those_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v by_o their_o proper_a name_n call_v presbyter_n be_v also_o call_v seniores_fw-la as_o those_o who_o come_v near_a to_o the_o bishop_n in_o degree_n wisdom_n and_o age_n and_o this_o he_o prove_v by_o a_o testimony_n of_o ambrose_n 20._o viduarum_fw-la ac_fw-la virginum_fw-la domos_fw-la nisi_fw-la â—isitandi_fw-la gratia_fw-la juniores_fw-la ad_fw-la re_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la opus_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la cum_fw-la senioribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la episcopo_fw-la vel_fw-la sigravior_fw-la est_fw-la causa_fw-la cum_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la answ._n 1._o here_o the_o senior_n be_v the_o bishop_n which_o be_v neither_o good_a sense_n nor_o any_o thing_n to_o his_o purpose_n 2._o he_o have_v leave_v out_o a_o word_n without_o which_o the_o sentence_n can_v be_v understand_v and_o that_o be_v well_fw-mi ambrose_n say_v hoc_fw-la est_fw-la vel_fw-la â—um_fw-la episcopo_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o so_o the_o word_n may_v suffer_v a_o threefold_a sense_n for_o either_o seniores_fw-la be_v here_o a_o name_n of_o age_n or_o of_o office_n if_o it_o be_v a_o name_n of_o age_n as_o may_v be_v presume_v by_o the_o opposition_n thereof_o to_o juniores_fw-la than_o the_o meaning_n of_o ambrose_n be_v that_o young_a man_n shall_v not_o go_v into_o the_o house_n of_o virgin_n or_o widow_n except_o it_o be_v with_o some_o man_n of_o age_n and_o these_o to_o be_v the_o bishop_n or_o the_o presbyter_n if_o â—t_a be_v a_o name_n of_o office_n theâ—_n may_v we_o either_o understand_v that_o by_o the_o presbyter_n he_o mean_v rule_v elder_n and_o by_o the_o bishop_n the_o pastor_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n 〈◊〉_d for_o if_o whitaker_n be_v not_o deceive_v pastor_n have_v the_o name_n of_o bishop_n not_o only_o in_o scripture_n but_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n also_o or_o that_o he_o comprehend_v under_o the_o order_n of_o elder_n not_o only_o the_o preach_a presbyter_n but_o the_o bishop_n also_o who_o be_v chief_a among_o they_o by_o the_o first_o sense_n bilson_n do_v gain_v nothing_o by_o the_o other_o two_o he_o have_v worse_a than_o nothing_o for_o any_o of_o they_o destroy_v his_o chief_a ground_n chap._n x._o the_o consent_n of_o protestant_a writer_n and_o
he_o exercise_v of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n shall_v have_v cease_v but_o since_o they_o do_v only_o assist_v the_o pastor_n in_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a it_o follow_v that_o as_o touch_v the_o office_n of_o elder_n there_o be_v no_o distinction_n betwixt_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o persecution_n second_o there_o be_v senior_n among_o the_o jew_n under_o godly_a king_n and_o in_o time_n of_o peace_n why_o not_o likewise_o among_o we_o three_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a both_o in_o the_o subject_n object_n and_o end_n so_o that_o the_o one_o do_v not_o hinder_v the_o other_o the_o magistrate_n power_n be_v to_o punish_v the_o outward_a man_n with_o a_o outward_a punishment_n which_o the_o presbytery_n can_v hinder_v for_o he_o may_v civil_o bind_v who_o the_o presbytery_n spiritual_o lose_v and_o civil_o loose_v who_o the_o presbytery_n spiritual_o bind_v and_o that_o because_o the_o magistrate_n seek_v not_o the_o repentance_n and_o salvation_n of_o the_o delinquent_n by_o his_o punishment_n as_o the_o presbytery_n do_v but_o only_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o his_o law_n together_o with_o the_o quietness_n and_o preservation_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n whence_o it_o come_v that_o the_o delinquent_n serape_v not_o free_a of_o the_o magistrate_n though_o he_o be_v penitent_a and_o not_o obstinate_a 4._o how_o think_v whitgift_n that_o the_o christian_n magistrate_n can_v do_v those_o thing_n which_o the_o seignory_n do_v under_o a_o tyrant_n can_v the_o magistrate_n by_o himself_o determine_v question_n of_o faith_n can_v he_o know_v what_o order_n and_o decency_n in_o circumstance_n be_v fit_a for_o each_o congregation_n can_v he_o excommunicate_v offender_n etc._n etc._n 5._o when_o bishop_n exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n yea_o and_o the_o civil_a too_o this_o be_v think_v no_o wrong_n to_o prince_n be_v it_o a_o wrong_n in_o the_o presbytery_n yet_o not_o in_o this_o prelacy_n good_a lord_n what_o a_o mystery_n be_v this_o 6._o when_o presbyter_n be_v establish_v in_o their_o full_a power_n there_o remain_v much_o power_n to_o the_o prince_n even_o in_o thing_n ecclesiastical_a as_o to_o take_v diligent_a heed_n to_o the_o whole_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n within_o his_o dominion_n to_o indict_v synod_n and_o civil_o to_o proceed_v in_o the_o same_o to_o ratify_v the_o constitution_n thereof_o and_o to_o add_v unto_o they_o the_o strength_n of_o a_o civil_a sanction_n to_o punish_v heretic_n and_o all_o that_o disobey_v the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n to_o see_v that_o no_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a be_v carry_v factious_o or_o rash_o but_o that_o such_o thing_n be_v determine_v in_o free_a assembly_n to_o provide_v for_o scholar_n college_n and_o kirkes_n that_o all_o corrupt_a way_n of_o enter_v into_o the_o ministry_n by_o simony_n bribe_v patron_n etc._n etc._n be_v repress_v and_o final_o to_o compel_v all_o man_n to_o do_v their_o duty_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o law_n of_o the_o church_n 7._o whatsoever_o be_v the_o power_n of_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n ecclesiae_fw-la tamen_fw-la 452_o etc._n etc._n yet_o let_v he_o leave_v to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n such_o as_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n elder_n and_o deacon_n their_o own_o power_n in_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a thing_n untouched_a and_o whole_a say_v danaeus_n for_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n do_v no_o more_o hinder_v the_o civil_a administration_n than_o the_o art_n of_o sing_v hinder_v it_o say_v the_o augustan_n confession_n 8._o we_o may_v answer_v by_o a_o just_a recrimination_n eccl._n that_o the_o prelacy_n not_o the_o presbytery_n be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o power_n of_o prince_n and_o have_v often_o encroach_v upon_o the_o same_o the_o bishop_n assemble_v in_o the_o eight_o council_n of_o constantinople_n 14._o ordain_v that_o bishop_n shall_v not_o light_v from_o their_o horse_n when_o they_o chance_v to_o meet_v prince_n nor_o base_o bow_v before_o they_o and_o that_o if_o any_o prince_n shall_v cause_v a_o bishop_n to_o disparage_v himself_o by_o do_v otherwise_o he_o shall_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o two_o year_n 17._o they_o also_o discharge_v prince_n from_o be_v present_a in_o any_o synod_n except_o the_o oâ—cumenicke_n â—7_z the_o 1._o council_n of_o toledo_n ordain_v that_o quoties_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la hispanorum_fw-la synodus_fw-la convenerit_fw-la toties_fw-la universalis_fw-la concilii_fw-la decretum_fw-la propter_fw-la salutem_fw-la principum_fw-la factum_fw-la peractis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la in_o synodo_fw-la recitetur_fw-la ut_fw-la iniquorum_fw-la mens_fw-la territa_fw-la corrigatur_fw-la from_o which_o canon_n osiander_n collect_v that_o some_o of_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o faithful_a and_o loyal_a to_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n the_o inquisition_n of_o spain_n anno_fw-la 1568._o present_v to_o king_n philip_n twelve_o article_n against_o the_o netherlands_o 309._o one_o whereof_o be_v that_o the_o king_n write_v unto_o and_o command_v the_o clergy_n of_o the_o netherlands_o that_o with_o the_o inquisition_n they_o shall_v accept_v of_o 15._o new_a bishop_n the_o which_o shall_v be_v free_a from_o all_o secular_a jurisdiction_n yea_o in_o case_n of_o treason_n now_o as_o touch_v the_o contrary_a conceit_n of_o saravia_n 110.114.116_o he_o allow_v such_o elder_n as_o the_o jewish_a church_n have_v to_o be_v join_v now_o with_o pastor_n under_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n but_o under_o a_o infidel_n magistrate_n he_o say_v they_o can_v have_v no_o place_n for_o he_o take_v the_o jewish_a elder_n to_o have_v be_v their_o magistrate_n &_o that_o in_o like_a manner_n none_o but_o christian_a magistrate_n shall_v sit_v with_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n in_o ecclesiastical_a court_n prince_n and_o noble_n in_o general_a or_o national_n council_n and_o magistrate_n of_o city_n in_o particular_a consistory_n this_o be_v as_o foul_a a_o error_n as_o that_o of_o whitgift_n for_o 1._o his_o opinion_n of_o the_o jewish_a elder_n that_o they_o be_v their_o magistrate_n we_o have_v confute_v before_o 2._o though_o it_o be_v so_o that_o no_o rule_v elder_n ought_v to_o be_v admit_v now_o except_o christian_a magistrate_n yet_o may_v they_o have_v place_n under_o a_o infidel_n prince_n as_o joseph_n under_o pharaoh_n daniel_n under_o nebuchadnezar_n there_o have_v be_v both_o christian_a church_n and_o christian_a magistrate_n under_o heretical_a yea_o infidel_n prince_n 3._o if_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v come_v in_o place_n of_o the_o jewish_a senior_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n in_o the_o consistory_n of_o the_o church_n we_o demand_v quo_fw-la nomine_fw-la quo_fw-la jure_fw-la whither_o do_v they_o sit_v as_o christian_a magistrate_n or_o as_o man_n of_o singular_a gift_n choose_v for_o that_o effect_n if_o as_o magistrate_n then_o shall_v we_o make_v a_o mixture_n and_o confusion_n of_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a function_n else_o how_o shall_v man_n by_o virtue_n of_o civil_a place_n sit_v in_o spiritual_a court_n if_o as_o man_n of_o singular_a gift_n choose_v to_o sit_v then_z may_z other_o aswell_o as_o they_o have_v the_o like_a gift_n and_o election_n be_v admit_v to_o sit_v also_o 4._o saravia_n contradict_v himself_o â—20_n for_o a_o little_a after_o he_o admit_v grave_a and_o godly_a man_n in_o the_o judicatories_n of_o the_o church_n whither_o they_o be_v magistrate_n or_o private_a man_n sive_fw-la illi_fw-la magistratu_fw-la fungantur_fw-la sive_fw-la in_o rep_n vivre_fw-fr privati_fw-la chap._n xiii_o whether_o rule_v elder_n have_v the_o power_n of_o decisive_a voice_n when_o they_o sit_v in_o prebytery_n and_o synod_n there_o be_v sundry_a question_n propound_v by_o d._n field_n and_o other_o adversary_n of_o rule_v elder_n whereinto_o they_o think_v we_o be_v not_o able_a to_o satisfy_v they_o as_o 1._o whether_o rule_v elder_n ought_v to_o have_v decisive_a voice_n even_o in_o question_n of_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n and_o in_o the_o trial_n and_o approbation_n of_o minister_n 2._o whether_o these_o elder_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n with_o power_n of_o ordination_n deprivation_n suspension_n excommunication_n and_o absolution_n or_o whether_o this_o power_n be_v only_o in_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o divers_a church_n concur_v 3._o if_o they_o be_v ecclesiastical_a person_n where_o be_v their_o ordination_n 4._o whether_o these_o 〈◊〉_d be_v perpetual_a or_o annual_a and_o but_o for_o a_o certain_a time_n whether_o they_o ought_v to_o serve_v free_o or_o to_o have_v a_o stipend_n touch_v the_o first_o of_o these_o since_o the_o reformation_n which_o luther_n begin_v it_o be_v ever_o maintain_v by_o the_o protestant_a writer_n that_o not_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n alone_o but_o some_o of_o all_o sort_n among_o christian_n ought_v to_o have_v decisive_a voice_n in_o council_n but_o dr._n field_n will_v admit_v none_o to_o teach_v and_o define_v in_o council_n 4â—_n but_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o
expound_v of_o maintenance_n and_o obedience_n for_o by_o double_a honour_n we_o may_v either_o simple_o understand_v much_o honour_n or_o by_o way_n of_o comparison_n double_a honour_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o widow_n who_o he_o have_v before_o command_v to_o honour_n 3._o as_o calvin_n expound_v the_o place_n both_o these_o interpretation_n do_v oecumenius_n give_v upon_o the_o same_o place_n the_o other_o question_n propound_v by_o d._n field_n concern_v ruling_n elder_n shall_v have_v a_o resolution_n in_o that_o which_o follow_v and_o so_o i_o will_v proceed_v conceive_v that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v for_o rule_v elder_n shall_v satisfy_v such_o as_o desire_v to_o understand_v though_o nothing_o can_v satisfy_v the_o malicious_a nor_o they_o who_o be_v willing_o ignorant_a here_o end_v the_o first_o book_n the_o second_o part_n concern_v the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n and_o authority_n thereof_o chap._n i._o of_o popular_a government_n in_o the_o church_n there_o be_v some_o that_o call_v in_o question_n the_o warrant_n and_o authority_n of_o classical_a presbytery_n of_o provincial_a synod_n and_o national_n assembly_n as_o they_o be_v use_v and_o maintain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n i_o mean_v not_o the_o praelaticall_a faction_n who_o we_o set_v aside_o but_o even_o some_o who_o be_v as_o antiepiscopall_a as_o we_o be_v the_o scrupulosity_n of_o such_o at_o least_o of_o many_o such_o herein_o do_v we_o conceive_v proceed_v not_o from_o any_o perverseness_n of_o mind_n but_o only_o from_o certain_a mistake_n which_o better_a information_n may_v remove_v but_o first_o of_o all_o we_o require_v those_o who_o we_o now_o labour_v to_o satisfy_v to_o condescend_v upon_o another_o point_n viz._n that_o the_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a congregation_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o whole_a collective_a body_n thereof_o but_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o eldership_n represent_v the_o same_o for_o in_o vain_a do_v we_o debate_v the_o other_o point_n concern_v presbytery_n and_o assembly_n if_o this_o latent_fw-la prejudice_n still_o occupy_v their_o mind_n that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n must_v needs_o be_v popular_a exercise_v by_o the_o collective_a body_n which_o happy_o may_v in_o some_o sort_n be_v do_v within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o well_o limit_a congregation_n but_o be_v manifest_o inconsistent_a with_o classical_a presbytery_n &_o synod_n because_o the_o collective_a body_n of_o all_o particular_a congregation_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o shire_n of_o a_o province_n of_o a_o nation_n can_v be_v ordinary_o nor_o at_o all_o ordinat_o assemble_v together_o and_o if_o they_o can_v i_o believe_v that_o the_o separatist_n themselves_o will_v in_o that_o case_n allow_v a_o dependencie_n or_o subordination_n of_o particular_a congregation_n unto_o the_o more_o general_a congregation_n so_o that_o the_o point_n of_o popular_a 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so_o mighty_o grow_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o prevail_v act._n 19.17.18.19.20_o unto_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o those_o city_n let_v we_o add_v another_o consideration_n viz._n that_o they_o have_v no_o temple_n as_o now_o we_o have_v but_o private_a place_n â—or_a their_o holy_a assembly_n such_o as_o the_o house_n of_o mary_n act._n 12.12_o the_o school_n of_o tyrannus_n act_n 19.9_o a_o upper_a chamber_n at_o trâ—â—s_n act._n â—0_n 8_o paul_n lodging_n at_o rome_n act._n 28._o â—3_n neither_o do_v i_o see_v any_o reason_n why_o the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o the_o house_n of_o aquila_n and_o priscilla_n rom._n 16.5_o 1_o cor._n 16.19_o shall_v not_o be_v understand_v to_o be_v a_o congregation_n as_o erasmus_n read_v it_o that_o be_v such_o a-number_n of_o christian_n as_o meet_v together_o in_o their_o house_n so_o we_o read_v of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o house_n of_o nymphas_n col._n 4.15_o and_o of_o the_o church_n 〈…〉_z house_n of_o archippus_n philem_n v._n 2._o 〈…〉_z iâ—_n be_v certain_a that_o christian_n meet_v together_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d house_n by_o house_n domatius_fw-la act._n 2.46_o both_o these_o consideration_n viz._n the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n in_o one_o city_n and_o their_o assemble_v together_o for_o worship_n in_o private_a house_n have_v also_o place_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n 1._o let_v eusebius_n speak_v for_o they_o both_o who_o can_v describe_v say_v he_o those_o innumerable_a heap_n &_o flock_a multitude_n throughout_o all_o city_n and_o famous_a assembly_n frequent_v the_o place_n dedicate_v to_o prayer_n thereafter_o he_o proceed_v to_o show_v how_o in_o aftertime_n by_o the_o favour_n of_o emperor_n christian_n have_v throughout_o all_o city_n ample_a church_n build_v for_o they_o they_o not_o be_v content_v with_o the_o old_a orâ—toria_n which_o be_v but_o private_a house_n now_o these_o two_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n and_o the_o want_n of_o temple_n 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disturb_v a_o whole_a nation_n without_o any_o regard_n to_o the_o constitution_n of_o a_o national_n synod_n but_o may_v one_o say_v if_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o synod_n concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n or_o worship_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v examine_v by_o the_o sure_a rule_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o only_o to_o be_v receive_v when_o they_o do_v agree_v therewith_o and_o if_o also_o the_o constitution_n of_o a_o synod_n in_o external_a circumstance_n do_v not_o bind_v except_o ex_fw-la aquo_fw-la &_o bono_fw-mi and_o propter_fw-la justas_fw-la mandandi_fw-la causas_fw-la or_o as_o divine_n speak_v in_o casu_fw-la scandali_fw-la &_o contemptus_fw-la and_o not_o for_o the_o mere_a will_n or_o authority_n of_o a_o synod_n and_o if_o therefore_o all_o christian_n be_v by_o the_o private_a judgement_n of_o christian_a discretion_n follow_v the_o light_n of_o god_n word_n and_o spirit_n to_o try_v and_o examine_v all_o decree_n and_o constitution_n of_o any_o synod_n 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