Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	apostle_n	baptism_n	baptize_v	2,934	5	8.7355	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86435	A treatise concerning prayer; containing particularly an apology for the use of the Lords prayer. / By Thomas Hodges, B.D. Rector of the Church of Souldern.	Hodges, Thomas, d. 1688.	1656 (1656)	Wing H2323; Thomason E1712_1; ESTC R209609	38,565	187

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