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A66974 Two discourses concerning the adoration of a B. Saviour in the H. Eucharist the first: Animadversions upon the alterations of the rubrick in the Communion-Service, in the Common-Prayer-Book of the Church of England : the second: The Catholicks defence for their adoration of our Lord, as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist. R. H., 1609-1678. 1687 (1687) Wing W3459; ESTC R16193 65,860 80

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the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v adore_v wheresoever_o they_o be_v and_o must_v be_v adore_v by_o a_o good_a christian_a where_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n which_o a_o christian_a be_v oblige_v to_o communicate_v with_o require_v it_o and_o p._n 351._o not_o to_o balk_v the_o freedom_n which_o have_v carry_v i_o to_o publish_v all_o this_o i_o do_v believe_v that_o it_o be_v practise_v and_o do_v i.e._n our_o lord_n christ_n real_o worship_v in_o the_o eucharist_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o i_o maintain_v from_o the_o beginning_n to_o have_v be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n oblige_v all_o to_o
reviver_n of_o this_o rubric_n change_v here_o the_o word_n of_o the_o former_a no_o adoration_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o real_a and_o essential_a into_o no_o adoration_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o corporal_a presence_n 1._o yet_o methinks_v here_o also_o first_o they_o shall_v have_v more_o clear_o express_v this_o to_o prevent_v such_o a_o misapprehension_n 2._o adoration_n be_v grant_v due_a in_o one_o way_n as_o not_o due_a in_o another_o §_o 54_o and_o christ_n natural_a body_n be_v grant_v present_a one_o way_n as_o not_o present_a in_o another_o methinks_v the_o former_a shall_v have_v be_v express_v as_o much_o or_o more_o than_o the_o latter_a and_o the_o whole_a frame_n of_o the_o declaration_n have_v be_v change_v thus_o according_a to_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o those_o who_o receive_v it_o viz._n that_o adoration_n be_v intend_v and_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v though_o not_o to_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n there_o bodily_a receive_v because_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n and_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v yet_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v to_o the_o real_a and_o essential_a presence_n of_o christ_n natural_a flesh_n and_o blood_n because_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v not_o only_o in_o heaven_n but_o also_o true_o in_o the_o eucharist_n it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n natural_a body_n if_o not_o after_o a_o natural_a manner_n yet_o in_o its_o true_a reality_n and_o essence_n after_o some_o other_o manner_n effect_v supernatural_o by_o divine_a power_n to_o be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o more_o place_n than_o one_o §_o 55_o last_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o protestant_a testimony_n here_o produce_v perhaps_o some_o other_o may_v be_v collect_v out_o of_o the_o same_o author_n that_o seem_v to_o qualify_v these_o here_o set_v down_o and_o better_a to_o suit_n with_o the_o expression_n of_o this_o declaration_n but_o neither_o will_v this_o afford_v any_o relief_n for_o to_o free_v they_o from_o a_o real_a contradiction_n the_o sense_n of_o the_o other_o reduce_v to_o those_o here_o cite_v with_o leave_v all_o thing_n in_o the_o same_o state_n or_o else_o the_o sense_n of_o these_o accommodate_v to_o other_o will_v appear_v to_o abett_v no_o more_o than_o bare_a zuinglianism_n i._n e._n a_o absolute_a non-presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n save_v only_o in_o its_o virtue_n and_o effect_n and_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o oppose_v and_o destroy_v the_o general_a tradition_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n finis_fw-la the_o catholic_n defence_n for_o their_o adoration_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o believe_v real_o and_o substantial_o present_a in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n at_o oxford_n print_v anno_fw-la 1687._o thesis_n of_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n content_n 1._o protestant-concessions_a §_o 1._o 2._o catholick-assertion_n §_o 1._o presupposition_n §_o 1._o 1._o of_o a_o precept_n of_o give_v divine_a worship_n to_o our_o lord._n §_o 1._o 2._o of_o our_o lord_n whole_a person_n its_o be_v where_o his_o body_n be_v §_o 2._o 3._o of_o this_o divine_a person_n be_v supreme_o adorable_a wherever_o his_o body_n be_v grant_v by_o protestant_n §_o 3._o not_o only_o in_o virtue_n but_o substance_n §_o 5._o 4._o that_o this_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v by_o protestant_n affirm_v in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o that_o this_o body_n be_v then_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o supreme_a adoration_n §_o 5._o 5._o further_o affirm_v that_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v present_v not_o only_o to_o the_o worthy_a communicant_a but_o to_o the_o symbol_n and_o whilst_o present_a be_v to_o be_v adore_v §_o 7._o 6._o grant_v by_o daille_n that_o though_o he_o and_o he_o believe_v not_o christ_n body_n present_a in_o the_o sign_n yet_o they_o for_o this_o break_v not_o communion_n with_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o §_o 8._o catholic_n assertion_n 1._o a_o sign_n or_o symbol_n to_o remain_v after_o consecoration_n distinct_a from_o the_o thing_n signify_v §_o 9_o this_o external_a sign_n to_o be_v all_o that_o which_o be_v perceptible_a by_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n though_o not_o their_o substance_n §_o 10._o 2._o the_o word_n sacrament_n to_o be_v take_v not_o always_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n but_o sometime_o for_o the_o sign_n or_o symbol_n sometime_o for_o the_o thing_n signify_v §_o 11._o 3._o catholic_n grind_v adoration_n not_o on_o transubstantiation_n which_o as_o also_o consubstantiantion_n involve_v it_o but_o on_o real_a presence_n with_o the_o symbol_n maintain_v adoration_n due_a though_o christ_n body_n be_v present_a neither_o under_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n as_o catholic_n say_v nor_o under_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n as_o lutheran_n say_v but_o after_o some_o other_o unknown_a manner_n distinct_a from_o both_o §_o §_o ●7_n 4._o suppose_v not_o grant_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bstantiation_n a_o error_n yet_o if_o corporal_n or_o real_a pres●●●_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o lutheran_n be_v true_a catholic_n plead_v their_o adoration_n warrantable_a §_o 18._o 5._o suppose_v real_a presence_n a_o error_n and_o the_o lutheran_n and_o roman_a church_n both_o mistake_v yet_o these_o latter_a in_o such_o adoration_n as_o excusable_a from_o idolatry_n as_o the_o other_o §_o 19_o 6._o suppose_v both_o the_o former_a opinion_n error_n and_o indeed_o no_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o symbol_n at_o all_o yet_o such_o adoration_n by_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o of_o christ_n who_o be_v a_o true_a object_n of_o supreme_a adoration_n and_o only_o mistake_v by_o they_o to_o be_v where_o he_o be_v not_o can_v be_v term_v such_o idolatry_n as_o be_v the_o profess_a worship_v of_o a_o object_n not_o at_o all_o adorable_a §_o 21._o 7._o whatever_o idolatry_n it_o be_v call_v in_o a_o manichean_a worship_v christ_n in_o the_o sun_n or_o in_o a_o israelite_n worship_v god_n in_o the_o calf_n at_o dan_n and_o bethel_n because_o adore_v a_o fancy_n of_o their_o own_o and_o a_o good_a intention_n ground_v on_o a_o culpable_a ignorance_n excuse_v none_o from_o idolatry_n yet_o since_o daille_n and_o perhaps_o other_o allow_v a_o reasonable_a though_o mistake_v ground_n of_o adoration_n sufficient_a for_o avoid_v the_o just_a imputation_n of_o idolatry_n hence_o if_o catholic_n can_v produce_v a_o rational_a ground_n of_o their_o apprehend_v christ_n present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n though_o possible_o mistake_v in_o it_o they_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v from_o idolatry_n on_o the_o same_o term_n §_o 22._o catholic_n ground_n for_o their_o belief_n 1._o divine_a revelation_n §_o 24._o 2._o the_o declaration_n thereof_o by_o the_o supreme_a church-authority_n in_o council_n §_o 25._o 3._o the_o testimony_n of_o primitive_a time_n §_o 26._o 4._o the_o universal_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o late_a both_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n §_o 27._o 5._o protestant_n concession_n §_o 28._o 8._o for_o these_o ground_n give_v by_o catholic_n idolatry_n by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a but_o faint_o charge_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n §_o 30._o 9_o catholic_n grant_v that_o to_o adore_v what_o be_v believe_v to_o be_v bread_n or_o perform_v the_o external_a sign_n of_o adoration_n to_o our_o lord_n as_o present_v there_o where_o the_o worshipper_n believe_v he_o be_v not_o be_v unlawful_a to_o be_v do_v by_o any_o whilst_o so_o persuade_v §_o 33._o catholic_n thesis_n concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n §_o 1_o concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n and_o so_o of_o his_o divine_a person_n as_o present_v in_o the_o eucharist_n 1._o i_o shall_v show_v what_o in_o reason_n be_v or_o must_v be_v concede_v by_o protestant_n 2._o examine_v what_o catholic_n maintain_v 1._o i_o suppose_v a_o general_a precept_n of_o give_v supreme_a and_o divine_a adoration_n to_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n and_o supposition_n supposition_n that_o as_o affirmative_a precept_n such_o as_o this_o be_v do_v not_o oblige_v to_o every_o time_n and_o place_n so_o if_o they_o be_v unlimited_a and_o general_a they_o warrant_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o our_o practice_n of_o they_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o need_n of_o any_o particular_a divine_a command_n in_o respect_n of_o these_o i._o e._n place_n and_o time_n without_o which_o command_n we_o may_v not_o obey_v they_o for_n what_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v hence_o for_o be_v our_o saviour_n when_o on_o earth_n never_o lawful_o worship_v but_o in_o place_n or_o time_n first_o command_v nor_o then_o when_o he_o show_v and_o present_v himself_o to_o they_o for_o some_o other_o purpose_n
affirmative_a precept_n which_o according_a to_o the_o receive_a rule_n tie_v always_o though_o it_o can_v tie_v a_o man_n to_o do_v the_o duty_n always_o because_o he_o then_o shall_v do_v nothing_o else_o what_o remain_v but_o a_o just_a occasion_n to_o make_v it_o requisite_a and_o present_o to_o take_v hold_n and_o oblige_v and_o be_v not_o the_o presence_n thereof_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n a_o just_a occasion_n present_o to_o express_v by_o the_o bodily_a act_n of_o adoration_n that_o inward_a honour_n which_o we_o always_o carry_v towards_o our_o lord_n christ_n as_o god_n again_o p._n 351._o not_o to_o balk_v that_o freedom_n say_v he_o which_o have_v carry_v i_o to_o publish_v all_o this_o i_o do_v believe_v that_o it_o be_v so_o practise_v and_o do_v i._n e._n our_o lord_n christ_n real_o worship_v in_o the_o eucharist_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o in_o the_o symbol_n before_o receive_v which_o i_o maintain_v from_o the_o beginning_n to_o have_v be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n oblige_v all_o to_o conform_v to_o it_o in_o all_o thing_n within_o the_o power_n of_o it_o i_o know_v the_o consequence_n to_o be_v this_o that_o there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n why_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v do_v at_o present_a but_o that_o cause_n which_o justify_v the_o reform_n of_o some_o part_n of_o the_o church_n without_o the_o whole_a which_o be_v it_o take_v away_o that_o it_o this_o adoration_n may_v be_v do_v again_o and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v of_o itself_o alone_o any_o cause_n of_o distance_n i._n e._n between_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n 6._o it_o be_v grant_v by_o daille_n in_o his_o apology_n c._n 11._o and_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o it_o against_o chaumont_n 1._o that_o although_o the_o reform_a of_o his_o party_n do_v not_o believe_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sign_n yet_o they_o esteem_v not_o the_o belief_n of_o it_o so_o criminal_a that_o it_o oblige_v they_o to_o break_v off_o communion_n with_o all_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o so_o that_o have_v the_o roman_a church_n no_o other_o error_n save_o this_o they_o free_o confess_v it_o have_v give_v they_o no_o sufficient_a cause_n of_o separate_n from_o it_o as_o say_v he_o appear_v in_o this_o that_o we_o tolerate_v and_o bear_v with_o it_o in_o the_o lutheran_n and_o again_o 63._o again_o reply_v to_o chaumont_n p._n 63._o for_o the_o adoration_n of_o this_o body_n as_o so_o present_a with_o the_o sign_n when_o indeed_o it_o be_v not_o so_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v only_o vain_a and_o unprofitable_a and_o that_o as_o one_o may_v say_v fall_v to_o nothing_o be_v deceive_v not_o in_o this_o that_o it_o make_v its_o address_n to_o a_o object_n not_o adorable_a but_o in_o this_o only_a that_o mistake_v it_o it_o seek_v it_o and_o think_v to_o embrace_v it_o there_o where_o it_o be_v not_o and_o c._n 12._o he_o also_o free_o confess_v that_o have_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n only_o oblige_v they_o to_o worship_n jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o not_o use_v this_o expression_n that_o the_o service_n of_o latria_n ought_v to_o be_v render_v to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n 13.5_o sacrament_n conc._n trid._n sess_v 13.5_o she_o have_v not_o oblige_v they_o by_o this_o to_o adore_v any_o creature_n thus_o he_o as_o it_o be_v constrain_v thereto_o by_o the_o lutheran_n protestant_n opinion_n and_o practice_n for_o his_o retain_v their_o communion_n and_o free_v they_o from_o idolatry_n 2._o it_o be_v grant_v also_o apol._n c._n 11._o that_o when_o our_o lord_n be_v on_o earth_n a_o disciple_n give_v divine_a honour_n upon_o mistake_n to_o another_o person_n much_o resemble_v he_o will_v be_v no_o idolatry_n so_o suppose_v the_o consecrate_a host_n be_v true_o adorable_a grant_v that_o shall_v any_o one_o see_v one_o on_o the_o altar_n that_o happen_v not_o to_o be_v consecrate_a and_o worship_n it_o neither_o will_v such_o a_o person_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n so_o he_o pronounce_v he_o 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they_o not_o formal_a idolatry_n because_o if_o they_o be_v not_o very_o persuade_v that_o it_o be_v god_n they_o profess_v they_o will_v never_o think_v of_o worship_v it_o thus_o he_o this_o in_o the_o 5_o place_n of_o not_o only_a transubstantiation_n but_o real_a presence_n be_v suppose_v a_o error_n yet_o that_o the_o roman_a practice_n or_o error_n compare_v with_o the_o lutheran_n the_o first_o be_v no_o more_o peccant_a than_o the_o late_a and_o therefore_o that_o the_o lutheran_n by_o protestant_n be_v excuse_v from_o idolatry_n so_o ought_v the_o roman_a catholic_n too_o §_o 21_o 6._o both_o these_o be_v suppose_a error_n and_o indeed_o no_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o symbol_n at_o all_o as_o be_v by_o they_o both_o imagine_v there_o yet_o such_o adoration_n by_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o of_o christ_n who_o be_v a_o true_a object_n of_o supreme_a adoration_n and_o only_o by_o they_o mistake_v to_o be_v in_o some_o place_n where_o he_o be_v not_o can_v be_v term_v any_o such_o idolatry_n as_o be_v the_o worship_v of_o a_o object_n not_o at_o all_o adorable_a so_o for_o example_n if_o we_o suppose_v a_o heathen_a worship_v a_o heathen-god_n as_o have_v some_o particular_a residence_n in_o a_o image_n or_o a_o israelite_n worship_v the_o true_a god_n of_o israel_n as_o have_v a_o special_a residence_n in_o the_o calf_n at_o sinai_n or_o in_o jeroboam_n calf_n call_v also_o by_o he_o cherubim_v or_o last_o a_o manichean_a mistake_v nothing_o in_o the_o nature_n or_o attribute_n of_o our_o lord_n christ_n save_v that_o he_o think_v he_o to_o have_v some_o particular_a residence_n in_o the_o sun_n and_o so_o worship_v he_o as_o present_v there_o none_o of_o these_o will_v be_v any_o such_o idolatry_n or_o parallel_v to_o it_o as_o that_o of_o another_o heathen_a worship_v the_o very_a molten_n image_n or_o israelite_n worship_v the_o very_a calf_n for_o his_o god_n or_o manichean_a worship_v the_o sun_n itself_o for_o christ_n again_o neither_o can_v any_o of_o these_o that_o adore_v only_a god_n or_o christ_n as_o special_o present_v where_o indeed_o he_o be_v not_o e._n g._n as_o fancy_a god_n so_o present_a in_o the_o calf_n or_o christ_n in_o the_o sun_n if_o we_o suppose_v something_o else_o invisible_o and_o undiscerned_a by_o he_o to_o be_v there_o present_a as_o if_o we_o imagine_v a_o angel_n in_o the_o sun_n or_o a_o serpent_n within_o the_o calf_n therefore_o be_v say_v to_o adore_v such_o angel_n or_o serpent_n and_o whatever_o fault_n may_v be_v in_o such_o worship_n yet_o it_o will_v be_v great_a injustice_n to_o accuse_v such_o israelite_n or_o manichean_a of_o adore_v such_o angel_n or_o serpent_n upon_o this_o indefinite_a proposition_n that_o he_o profess_v to_o worship_v that_o which_o he_o believe_v to_o be_v present_a there_o especial_o if_o such_o person_n do_v also_o declare_v against_o the_o adoration_n of_o any_o such_o particular_a thing_n if_o contrary_a to_o his_o belief_n there_o present_a neither_o then_o can_v it_o be_v just_o deduce_v from_o a_o lutheran_n or_o catholick.'s_n adore_v christ_n as_o under_o the_o substance_n or_o species_n of_o bread_n that_o therefore_o these_o adore_v the_o thing_n itself_o that_o be_v present_a under_o they_o §_o 22_o 7._o whatever_o fault_n or_o also_o idolatry_n it_o may_v be_v call_v though_o not_o so_o gross_a as_o the_o former_a in_o a_o manichean_a that_o worship_v christ_n in_o the_o sun_n or_o in_o a_o israelite_n that_o worship_v god_n as_o special_o present_a or_o resident_a in_o the_o calf_n of_o dan_n and_o bethel_n or_o that_o at_o sinai_n because_o it_o be_v adore_v a_o fancy_n of_o their_o own_o without_o any_o rational_a ground_n or_o pretence_n thereof_o and_o however_o mere_o a_o good_a intention_n ground_v upon_o a_o culpable_a ignorance_n can_v excuse_v none_o from_o idolatry_n or_o any_o other_o fault_n which_o as_o it_o be_v often_o press_v by_o protestant_n be_v free_o grant_v by_o catholic_n yet_o since_o daille_n and_o i_o suppose_v other_o
be_v idolatry_n but_o will_v any_o papist_n acknowledge_v that_o he_o honour_v the_o element_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o as_o he_o think_v the_o accident_n of_o they_o for_o god_n will_v common_a reason_n charge_v he_o to_o honour_n that_o which_o he_o believe_v not_o to_o be_v there_o if_o they_o be_v there_o they_o will_v not_o take_v they_o for_o god_n and_o therefore_o they_o will_v not_o honour_v they_o for_o god_n and_o that_o be_v it_o not_o say_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v idolater_n if_o the_o element_n do_v remain_v that_o must_v make_v they_o idolater_n and_o epilogue_n p._n 357._o in_o general_a he_o say_v whoso_o admit_v idolatry_n i._n e._n in_o any_o point_n whatever_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n the_o very_a be_v whereof_o suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o one_o god_n exclusive_a to_o any_o thing_n else_o the_o roman_a church_n then_o must_v either_o be_v free_v from_o the_o imputation_n of_o command_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v idolatry_n i._n e._n adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n for_o god_n or_o we_o must_v affirm_v there_o to_o be_v and_o to_o have_v be_v no_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n never_o since_o such_o command_n of_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v idolatry_n go_v forth_o which_o no_o judicious_a protestant_n i_o think_v have_v or_o dare_v say_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o what_o church_n or_o sect_n of_o religion_n can_v be_v apostate_n at_o all_o if_o not_o a_o church_n commit_v and_o command_a idolatry_n even_o the_o worship_v of_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n which_o themselves_o make_v for_o that_o god_n which_o make_v they_o and_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o thus_o bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o perperam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d romanensibus_fw-la a_o plerisque_fw-la protestantibus_fw-la objicitur_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la crassissimae_fw-la &_o gravissimae_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la insimulantur_fw-la &_o damnantur_fw-la cum_fw-la plerique_fw-la romanenses_n ut_fw-la &_o alii_fw-la fideles_fw-la credant_fw-la panem_fw-la consecratum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la unde_fw-la illi_fw-la non_fw-la panem_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la nontamen_a haeretica_fw-la aut_fw-la impia_fw-la vel_fw-la cum_fw-la fide_fw-la directe_v pugnante_fw-la ut_fw-la superiore_fw-la libro_fw-la ostensum_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la quod_fw-la veer_fw-la adorandum_fw-la est_fw-la adorant_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n enim_fw-la ment_fw-la discernendum_fw-la esse_fw-la christum_fw-la a_o visibili_fw-la signo_fw-la decent_a ipsi_fw-la &_o christum_fw-la quidem_fw-la adorandum_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quia_fw-la species_n illae_fw-la sunt_fw-la res_fw-la creatae_fw-la &_o inanimes_fw-la &_o consequenter_fw-la incapace_n adorationis_fw-la and_o ibid._n show_v the_o greek_a and_o eastern_a church_n as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a to_o use_v it_o he_o conclude_v quis_fw-la ausit_fw-la omnes_fw-la hos_fw-la christianos_n idololatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n de_fw-fr repub._n eccles_n 7._o l._n 11._o c._n n._n 6._o respondeo_fw-la say_v he_o i_o nullum_fw-la idololatricum_fw-la crimen_fw-la in_o adoratione_n eucharistiae_fw-la si_fw-la recte_fw-la dirigatur_fw-la intentio_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la qui_fw-la enim_fw-la docent_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la illi_fw-la profecto_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la veer_fw-la adorabile_fw-la adorant_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la nostri_fw-la dicunt_fw-la species_n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la accidentia_fw-la illa_fw-la esse_fw-la adoranda_fw-la bishop_n bramhal_o cite_v before_o §_o 6._o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v say_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n formal_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n say_v some_o of_o your_o author_n we_o say_v the_o same_o the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n say_v other_o that_o we_o deny_v thus_o he_o d._n tailor_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v p._n 258._o confess_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o idolater_n in_o this_o kind_n at_o least_o so_o as_o to_o worship_v bread_n or_o any_o creature_n with_o divine_a worship_n and_o as_o god_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a say_v he_o that_o the_o object_n of_o their_o adoration_n that_o which_o be_v represent_v to_o they_o in_o their_o mind_n their_o thought_n and_o purpose_n and_o by_o which_o god_n principal_o if_o not_o sole_o take_v estimate_n of_o humane_a action_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n hypostatical_o join_v with_o his_o holy_a humanity_n which_o humanity_n they_o believe_v actual_o under_o the_o veil_n of_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o if_o they_o think_v he_o not_o present_a they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o be_v idololatrical_a i._n e._n as_o to_o the_o direct_v this_o their_o divine_a worship_n to_o a_o undue_a object_n §_o 31_o which_o thing_n if_o say_v right_a by_o he_o and_o the_o other_o the_o same_o dr._n taylor_n be_v faulty_a in_o his_o charge_n in_o real_a presence_n p._n 334._o faulty_a i_o say_v in_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n not_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o right_a object_n in_o a_o someway_n unlawful_a and_o prohibit_v manner_n this_o we_o be_v not_o here_o examine_v but_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n of_o adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n instead_o of_o god_n for_o so_o he_o charge_v they_o there_o if_o say_v he_o there_o they_o be_v deceive_v in_o their_o own_o strict_a article_n he_o mean_v of_o transubstantiation_n than_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o commit_v a_o act_n of_o idolatry_n in_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o image_n the_o sacrament_n and_o representment_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n thus_o he_o when_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o object_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n etc._n etc._n as_o he_o say_v before_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v and_o must_v say_v if_o he_o will_v say_v truth_n so_o faulty_a be_v also_o daille_n reply_v to_o chaumont_n p._n 63._o in_o his_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o worship_v bread_n upon_o this_o argue_v catholic_n adore_v that_o substance_n that_o be_v veil_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o this_o substance_n be_v bread_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v bread_n by_o which_o argue_v he_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o lutheran_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o adore_v a_o worm_n or_o a_o mite_n thus_o the_o lutheran_n adore_v that_o substance_n which_o be_v join_v with_o the_o bread_n but_o that_o substance_n be_v a_o worm_n or_o mite_n for_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v there_o with_o the_o bread_n at_o such_o time_n of_o adoration_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v a_o worm_n whereas_o both_o the_o catholic_n and_o lutheran_n explain_v the_o indefinite_a term_n that_o which_o use_v in_o the_o major_a proposition_n restrictive_o to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o exclusive_o to_o any_o other_o substance_n whatever_o that_o be_v or_o may_v be_v there_o either_o with_o the_o bread_n or_o under_o its_o accident_n faulty_a also_o be_v dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o in_o say_v the_o protestant_n controversy_n with_o catholic_n be_v whether_o proper_a divine_a worship_n in_o the_o time_n of_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o element_n on_o the_o account_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n under_o they_o p._n 117._o and_o as_o for_o the_o passage_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_v 13._o c._n 5._o urge_v by_o he_o there_o for_o it_o his_o mistake_n be_v show_v before_o §_o 12._o and_o so_o faulty_a in_o his_o conclude_v p._n 118._o that_o the_o immediate_a term_n of_o that_o divine_a worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n be_v the_o external_a and_o visible_a sign_n or_o element_n and_o again_o p._n 124._o that_o upon_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n no_o man_n can_v be_v satisfy_v that_o he_o worship_v not_o a_o mere_a creature_n with_o divine_a honour_n when_o he_o give_v adoration_n to_o the_o host_n whenas_o catholic_n expound_v themselves_o to_o mean_v by_o host_n in_o their_o adoration_n not_o the_o symbol_n or_o sacramentum_fw-la but_o rem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la again_o p._n 125_o 127_o 129._o that_o suppose_v the_o divine_a nature_n present_a in_o any_o thing_n give_v no_o ground_n upon_o that_o account_n to_o give_v the_o same_o worship_n to_o the_o thing_n wherein_o it_o be_v present_a catholic_n grant_v this_o
as_o much_o as_o he_o and_o do_v not_o himself_o say_v several_a time_n that_o catholic_n condemn_v the_o worship_v of_o a_o mere_a creature_n for_o idolatry_n see_v §_o 4._o p._n 120._o if_o say_v he_o it_o shall_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a creature_n that_o i_o adore_v all_o the_o world_n can_v excuse_v i_o from_o idolatry_n and_o my_o own_o church_n he_o mean_v the_o roman_a condemn_v i_o all_o agree_v that_o this_o be_v gross_a idolatry_n again_o p._n 119._o it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o principle_n indisputable_a among_o they_o i._n e._n catholic_n that_o to_o give_v proper_a divine_a honour_n to_o a_o creature_n be_v idolatry_n again_o p._n 126._o he_o say_v he_o find_v it_o general_o agree_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n consider_v alone_o i._n e._n without_o a_o hypostatical_a union_n to_o the_o divinity_n aught_o not_o to_o have_v divine_a honour_n give_v to_o it_o be_v therefore_o neither_o any_o other_o creature_n 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