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A85777 A contention for truth: in two several publique disputations. Before thousands of people, at Clement Dane Church, without Temple Barre: upon the 19 of Nevemb. [sic] last: and upon the 26 of the same moneth. Betweene Mr Gunning of the one part, and Mr Denne on the other. Concerning the baptisme of infants; whether lawful, or unlawful. Gunning, Peter, 1614-1684.; Denne, Henry, 1606 or 7-1660? 1658 (1658) Wing G2234; Thomason E963_1; ESTC R202279 30,275 53

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