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A50892 Considerations touching the likeliest means to remove hirelings out of the church wherein is also discourc'd of tithes, church-fees, church-revenues, and whether any maintenance of ministers can be settl'd by law / the author J.M. Milton, John, 1608-1674. 1659 (1659) Wing M2101; ESTC R12931 33,775 176

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