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doubt_v not_o but_o this_o be_v the_o most_o true_a explication_n of_o this_o place_n finis_fw-la psal_n 27.3_o act_n 17_o 22._o areopagus_n mars-hill_n or_o the_o câurt_n of_o areopagite_n brand_v and_o mislike_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 4._o 4._o if_o we_o may_v not_o rather_o take_v it_o to_o allude_v to_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o heathen_n who_o because_o their_o god_n be_v multinomines_fw-la according_a to_o their_o several_a power_n and_o virtue_n have_v certain_a monitor_n to_o put_v the_o suppliant_n in_o mind_n of_o the_o appellation_n of_o their_o deity_n as_o desiderius_n heraldus_n think_v and_o to_o this_o purpose_n bring_v that_o of_o s._n augustine_n cite_v out_o of_o seneca_n as_o he_o read_v it_o alius_fw-la numina_fw-la dei_fw-la subjicit_fw-la or_o as_o lipsius_n nomina_fw-la however_o it_o can_v give_v the_o least_o colour_n to_o the_o sense_n intend_v by_o the_o answerer_n aug._n ep._n 121_o aug._n de_fw-fr bon_fw-fr persevere_v c._n 22._o utinam_fw-la tardi_fw-la 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buxtorfius_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o creed_n of_o r._n ben_n maimon_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o jew_n liturgy_n in_o his_o speech_n at_o norwich_n assizes_n publish_v m._n fisher_n i_o beseech_v you_o tell_v i_o brethren_n how_o you_o construe_v those_o word_n of_o calvin_n which_o he_o write_v to_o the_o protector_n of_o england_n anno_fw-la 1548._o oct._n 22._o quod_fw-la ad_fw-la formulam_fw-la precum_fw-la &_o rituum_fw-la ecclesiasticorum_fw-la valde_fw-la probâ_n ut_fw-la certa_fw-la illa_fw-la extet_fw-la à _fw-la qua_fw-la pastoribus_fw-la discedere_fw-la non_fw-la liceat_fw-la infunctione_n sua_fw-la tam_fw-la ut_fw-la consulatur_fw-la quorundam_fw-la simplicitati_fw-la &_o imperitiae_fw-la quam_fw-la ut_fw-la certius_fw-la ita_fw-la constet_fw-la omnium_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la consensus_fw-la postremo_fw-la etiam_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v as_o for_o a_o form_n of_o prayer_n and_o of_o rite_n ecclesiastical_a i_o do_v great_o approve_v that_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a one_o extant_a from_o which_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o minister_n in_o their_o function_n to_o depart_v both_o that_o by_o this_o mean_v provision_n may_v be_v make_v for_o the_o simplicity_n and_o unskilfulnesse_n of_o some_o and_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o church_n among_o themselves_o may_v more_o certain_o appear_v last_o that_o thus_o there_o may_v be_v a_o remedy_n for_o the_o desultory_a levity_n of_o some_o man_n that_o affect_v still_o certain_a innovation_n as_o i_o have_v show_v that_o the_o catechism_n itself_o serve_v for_o this_o purpose_n so_o therefore_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o set_a form_n of_o catechism_n a_o set_a form_n of_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n and_o of_o public_a prayer_n quanquam_fw-la descessu_fw-la veteris_fw-la confusus_fw-la amici_fw-la juvenal_n you_o may_v as_o well_o have_v tell_v we_o out_o of_o the_o same_o author_n of_o the_o strange_a condition_n that_o be_v in_o use_n among_o they_o which_o they_o impose_v upon_o their_o king_n if_o ever_o he_o come_v into_o their_o coast_n of_o his_o ride_n with_o one_o leg_n bare_a and_o their_o mock_n of_o he_o with_o their_o maravedis_n yet_o the_o word_n of_o the_o remonstrance_n be_v not_o nothing_o can_v be_v a_o more_o certain_a truth_n but_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o plain_a than_o this_o truth_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d epiph._n amb._n the_o dignity_n sacerd._n c._n 3._o no_o &_o alexandria_n à _fw-fr marco_n evangelistausque_fw-la ad_fw-la heraclam_fw-la &_o dionysium_fw-la episcopos_fw-la prâsbyteri_fw-la semper_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_o excel_v siori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la nominabant_fw-la quomodo_fw-la si_fw-la exercitus_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la faciat_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o holy_a ghost_n make_v you_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d chrysost_n tom._n 5._o edition_n savil._n p._n 499._o aug._n f_o p._n 19_o greg._n naz._n orat._n 28._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d etc._n etc._n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d etc._n etc._n platina_n in_o vita_fw-la greg._n 7._o cypr._n ep._n 33._o fiâmil_n cypâian_n epist_n 75._o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v that_o which_o you_o cite_v out_o of_o clemens_n alex_n strom._n l._n 5._o allude_v to_o in_o that_o usual_a allegation_n of_o ambrose_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d council_n antioch_n c._n 24_o 25._o b._n down_o def_n l._n 3._o ch_n 5._o howsoever_o it_o be_v now_o in_o some_o reform_a church_n lay_v down_o socrat._v l._n 7._o c._n 37._o 2_o king_n 5.7_o calvin_n epist_n f_o 421._o aquin._n pro_fw-la dormitâone_fw-la victioris_fw-la non_fw-la fiat_fw-la blatio_fw-la a_o uto_n depre_fw-fr catio_fw-la aliquanomine_fw-la ejus_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la frequentetur_fw-la cypr._n rogatiano_n fratri_fw-la l._n 3._o ep._n 9_o aug._n ep._n 110._o 2·_fw-la tim_n 1.11_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d rev._n 2.24_o cypr._n l._n 4._o ad_fw-la antonianum_fw-la epist_n revel_v 1.20_o conc._n nic._n can_v 8_o ignat._n ad_fw-la ephes_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d etc._n etc._n so_o cyprian_n epicopis_fw-la loquens_fw-la etc._n etc._n qui_fw-la apostolis_n vicaria_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la succedunt_fw-la ep._n 69._o vnitas_fw-la per_fw-la apostolos_fw-la novis_fw-la successoribus_fw-la tradita_fw-la ep._n 41_o meminisse_fw-la debent_fw-la diaconi_fw-la quoniam_fw-la apostolos_fw-la i._n e._n episcopos_fw-la &_o prapaesitos_fw-la dominus_fw-la clegit_fw-la ep._n 65._o b._n montague_n orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la c._n 14._o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d vide_fw-la justellum_n in_o notis_fw-la ad_fw-la canon_n african_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d can._n afr._n 91_o aug._n contra_fw-la crescon_n l._n 3._o omnes_fw-la vos_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la diaconi_fw-la &_o seniores_fw-la scitis_fw-la etc._n etc._n where_o against_o your_o own_o knowledge_n you_o translate_v presbyteri_fw-la elder_n to_o blear_v the_o reader_n eye_n with_o a_o show_n of_o a_o double_a sort_n of_o elder_n whereas_o presbyteri_fw-la be_v there_o manifest_o distinguish_v from_o seniores_fw-la p._n moulin_n epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la episcop_n winton_n etc._n etc._n
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