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A33359 Diocesan churches not yet discovered in the primitive times, or, A defence of the answer to Dr. Stillingfleets allegations out of antiquity for such churches against the exceptions offered in the preface to a late treatise called A vindication of the primitive church, where what is further produced out of Scripture and antient authors for diocesan churches is also discussed. Clarkson, David, 1622-1686. 1682 (1682) Wing C4571; ESTC R16204 84,843 132

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as_o live_v at_o a_o good_a distance_n but_o none_o will_v imagine_v it_o to_o be_v a_o diocesan_n church_n but_o those_o who_o will_v have_v a_o single_a congregation_n to_o be_v such_o a_o church_n all_o the_o christian_n in_o city_n and_o country_n say_v dr._n downham_n if_o they_o have_v be_v assemble_v together_o will_v have_v make_v but_o a_o small_a congregation_n 69._o congregation_n defence_n l._n 2._o c._n 4._o p._n 69._o our_o author_n will_v prove_v the_o largeness_n of_o basil_n diocese_n by_o the_o distance_n between_o caesarea_n and_o sasima_n *_o 547_o x_o pag._n 546_o 547_o he_o make_v much_o of_o it_o and_o take_v the_o pain_n to_o measure_v the_o distance_n between_o these_o town_n or_o rather_o as_o he_o say_v to_o make_v some_o guess_n at_o it_o out_o of_o a_o itenerary_n and_o putinger_n table_n yet_o tell_v we_o the_o distance_n must_v be_v as_o great_a at_o least_o as_o between_o hippo_n and_o fussala_n that_o so_o st._n basil_n diocese_n may_v be_v as_o great_a 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say_v express_o or_o by_o who_o except_o by_o himself_o the_o word_n in_o the_o margin_n signify_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o only_o some_o attempt_n to_o deprive_v a_o metropolis_n of_o sasima_n for_o a_o metropolis_n may_v be_v deprive_v of_o a_o town_n which_o be_v in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o province_n when_o another_o metropolitan_a seize_v on_o it_o and_o i_o believe_v our_o author_n be_v yet_o more_o out_o in_o take_v the_o metropolis_n which_o nazianzen_n speak_v of_o to_o be_v caesarea_n when_o it_o appear_v by_o the_o epistle_n to_o be_v rather_o tyana_n for_o as_o the_o whole_a epistle_n be_v write_v to_o basil_n so_o these_o word_n cite_v after_o many_o other_o by_o way_n of_o sharp_a expostulation_n be_v direct_v to_o he_o as_o endeavour_v to_o deprive_v a_o metropolis_n of_o this_o town_n call_v ironical_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d now_o caesarea_n be_v not_o the_o metropolis_n which_o basil_n will_v have_v deprive_v of_o sasima_n he_o earnest_o endeavour_v to_o have_v it_o annex_v thereto_o but_o he_o will_v have_v deprive_v tyana_n of_o it_o if_o anthimus_n the_o metropolitan_a there_o have_v not_o make_v a_o stout_a opposition_n two_o he_o shall_v have_v prove_v that_o after_o this_o part_n of_o cappadocia_n be_v divide_v into_o two_o province_n sasima_n be_v in_o that_o province_n which_o fall_v to_o basil_n share_n for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o in_o his_o province_n how_o can_v his_o diocese_n be_v any_o large_a for_o it_o but_o instead_o of_o this_o our_o author_n offer_v what_o may_v serve_v to_o disprove_v it_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o the_o ancient_a greek_a notitia_fw-la sasima_n be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o second_o cappadocia_n which_o belong_v to_o anthimus_n as_o the_o first_o do_v to_o basil_n and_o so_o say_v he_o it_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o be_v
which_o have_v a_o metropolitan_a and_o suffragans_fw-la before_o and_o be_v now_o destitute_a the_o bishop_n in_o the_o vicinity_n be_v careful_a to_o provide_v other_o which_o be_v so_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v part_n of_o basil_n province_n seem_v as_o incongruous_a as_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o province_n of_o york_n be_v part_n of_o the_o province_n of_o canterbury_n but_o if_o this_o can_v be_v digest_v that_o one_o province_n be_v part_n of_o another_o yet_o isauria_n will_v rather_o be_v part_n of_o amphilochius_n his_o province_n who_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o be_v to_o constitute_v a_o metropolitan_a and_o other_o bishop_n therein_o than_o of_o basil_n who_o be_v only_o represent_v as_o give_v advice_n about_o it_o or_o if_o give_v advice_n and_o direction_n will_v prove_v any_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n the_o papist_n may_v think_v it_o a_o good_a argument_n that_o africa_n be_v part_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n because_o leo_n bishop_n of_o rome_n give_v advise_v how_o bishop_n shall_v be_v there_o constitute_v ibid._n constitute_v ibid._n next_o he_o bring_v in_o the_o chore-piscopi_a in_o order_n to_o his_o design_n and_o tell_v we_o 550._o we_o pag._n 550._o they_o be_v country_n bishop_n and_o their_o church_n consist_v of_o many_o congregation_n and_o those_o at_o a_o good_a distance_n one_o from_o another_o and_o also_o that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v the_o inspection_n of_o a_o large_a territory_n no_o less_o it_o be_v like_a than_o the_o county_n of_o fussala_n but_o not_o a_o word_n for_o proof_n of_o this_o save_o basil_n mention_v a_o chor-episcopus_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o some_o place_n whereas_o if_o he_o have_v be_v the_o bishop_n of_o two_o or_o three_o village_n this_o may_v be_v enough_o to_o satisfy_v the_o import_n of_o that_o expression_n yet_o he_o know_v there_o be_v some_o one_o country_n parish_n that_o have_v ten_o time_n as_o many_o or_o more_o village_n in_o it_o but_o never_o pretend_v to_o be_v a_o diocesan_n church_n and_o that_o such_o a_o pretence_n will_v be_v now_o count_v ridiculous_a he_o add_v that_o which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a wouldgo_o near_o to_o dethrone_v these_o country_n bishop_n for_o basil_n speak_v of_o they_o as_o have_v their_o throne_n in_o village_n and_o render_v they_o less_o than_o ancient_a presbyter_n for_o all_o their_o large_a territory_n and_o there_o be_v diocesan_n but_o yet_o these_o be_v but_o the_o deputy_n or_o surrogate_v of_o the_o city_n bishop_n in_o point_n of_o jurisdiction_n for_o they_o be_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o moment_n without_o their_o bishop_n if_o this_o be_v so_o it_o will_v be_v less_o wonder_n that_o the_o pope_n will_v have_v bishop_n to_o be_v but_o his_o substitute_n and_o that_o some_o bishop_n will_v have_v the_o pastor_n of_o parochial_a church_n to_o be_v but_o their_o vicar_n or_o curate_n i_o hope_v our_o author_n intend_v better_a however_o it_o be_v well_o that_o such_o odd_a hypothesis_n have_v no_o better_a support_n than_o that_o which_o be_v add_v for_o say_v he_o they_o be_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o moment_n without_o their_o bishop_n this_o be_v his_o argument_n and_o he_o be_v not_o alone_o in_o urge_v it_o let_v we_o see_v whether_o it_o will_v not_o do_v the_o bishop_n for_o who_o advancement_n it_o be_v design_v as_o much_o disservice_n as_o it_o can_v do_v the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la or_o presbyter_n divest_v they_o of_o that_o which_o be_v count_v more_o necessary_a and_o advantageous_a to_o they_o than_o a_o large_a diocese_n the_o provincial_a bishop_n be_v oblige_v to_o do_v nothing_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o metropolis_n this_o the_o synod_n at_o antioch_n decree_n according_a to_o a_o ancient_a canon_n of_o the_o father_n 13._o father_n can._n 9_o can._n apost_n 35._o council_n milev_n can._n 13._o by_o this_o argument_n we_o must_v conclude_v that_o the_o bishop_n in_o a_o province_n be_v but_o the_o deputy_n and_o surrogate_v of_o the_o metropolitan_a and_o it_o may_v proceed_v proportionable_o against_o the_o metropolitan_o with_o respect_n to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o primate_fw-la and_o also_o to_o their_o prejudice_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o patriarch_n it_o will_v go_v near_o to_o destroy_v the_o bishop_n likewise_o if_o we_o follow_v it_o downward_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n the_o bishop_n be_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o moment_n without_o the_o presbyter_n this_o the_o most_o judicious_a and_o learned_a asserter_n of_o episcopacy_n acknowledge_v usher_n acknowledge_v b._n bilson_n dr._n field_n dr._n downham_n b._n hall_n m._n thorndike_n b._n usher_n nay_o further_o in_o the_o best_a age_n of_o the_o church_n the_o bishop_n be_v to_o do_v nothing_o without_o the_o people_n that_o be_v without_o their_o presence_n and_o consent_n this_o be_v most_o evident_a in_o cyprian_n epistle_n and_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o such_o prelatist_n as_o be_v otherwise_o reserve_v enough_o 407._o enough_o vide_fw-la defence_n of_o dr._n st._n pag._n 407._o now_o by_o this_o argument_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o bishop_n be_v but_o the_o deputy_n or_o surrogate_v of_o the_o presbyter_n or_o which_o will_v be_v count_v more_o intolerable_a that_o bishop_n have_v their_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o people_n by_o deputation_n and_o vicarage_n it_o may_v be_v this_o gentleman_n will_v not_o like_o his_o argument_n so_o well_o when_o he_o see_v what_o improvement_n it_o be_v capable_a of_o yet_o in_o pursuance_n of_o it_o he_o add_v basil_n be_v so_o resolute_a upon_o his_o prerogative_n that_o he_o will_v not_o endure_v they_o shall_v ordain_v as_o much_o as_o the_o inferior_a clergy_n without_o his_o consent_n and_o if_o they_o do_v let_v they_o know_v say_v he_o that_o whosoever_o be_v admit_v without_o our_o consent_n shall_v be_v repute_v but_o a_o layman_n i_o suppose_v the_o prerogative_n for_o which_o he_o will_v have_v basil_n so_o resolute_a be_v a_o negative_a in_o ordination_n upon_o the_o country_n bishop_n but_o this_o can_v be_v conclude_v from_o the_o word_n cite_v for_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a give_v the_o metropolitan_a a_o power_n as_o to_z ordination_n in_o the_o same_o word_n 6._o word_n can._n 6._o declare_v that_o if_o a_o bishop_n be_v ordain_v by_o the_o provincial_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o metropolitan_a the_o great_a council_n will_v have_v he_o account_v no_o bishop_n and_o yet_o the_o metropolitan_a have_v no_o negative_a upon_o the_o provincial_n in_o ordination_n for_o the_o same_o council_n determine_v that_o in_o ordination_n plurality_n of_o vote_n shall_v prevail_v which_o be_v utter_o inconsistent_a with_o any_o one_o negative_a voice_n what_o then_o be_v the_o import_n of_o basil_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d take_v it_o in_o the_o word_n of_o a_o very_a learned_a and_o judicious_a dr._n of_o this_o church_n it_o be_v indeed_o there_o say_v that_o none_o shall_v be_v ordain_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o metropolitan_a but_o that_o do_v not_o import_v a_o negative_a voice_n in_o he_o but_o that_o the_o transaction_n shall_v not_o pass_v in_o his_o absence_n or_o without_o this_o knowledge_n advice_n and_o suffrage_n etc._n etc._n 314_o etc._n barrow_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n pag._n 314_o 5._o it_o be_v no_o proof_n of_o a_o diocesan_n church_n to_o show_v that_o a_o town_n beside_o the_o clergy_n or_o officer_n in_o it_o have_v some_o presbyter_n or_o congregation_n in_o the_o country_n belong_v to_o it_o the_o instance_n which_o signify_v no_o more_o or_o not_o so_o much_o be_v produce_v as_o sufficient_a argument_n to_o prove_v there_o be_v such_o church_n as_o that_o of_o gaius_n diddensis_fw-la presbyter_n suppose_v with_o what_o ground_n i_o examine_v not_o to_o have_v be_v a_o country_n presbyter_n belong_v to_o carthage_n and_o under_o cyprian_n 504._o cyprian_n vindication_n p._n 504._o and_o that_o of_o felix_n say_v to_o do_v the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n under_o decimus_n another_o presbyter_n a_o thing_n unheard_a of_o in_o those_o time_n but_o let_v we_o take_v it_o as_o we_o find_v it_o and_o upon_o the_o very_a slender_a reason_n allege_v against_o goulartius_n who_o be_v of_o another_o judgement_n believe_v that_o he_o be_v a_o priest_n in_o some_o village_n belong_v to_o caldonius_n his_o diocese_n 507._o diocese_n pag._n 506._o 507._o and_o that_o order_n for_o the_o presbyter_n from_o their_o church_n to_o repair_v to_o their_o proper_a bishop_n for_o chrism_n in_o africa_n 36._o africa_n con._n 4._o can._n 36._o in_o spain_n 20._o spain_n tol._n 1_o cap._n 20._o and_o in_o france_n 3._o france_n vascon_n can._n 3._o to_o these_o be_v add_v for_o further_a evidence_n the_o church_n say_v without_o ground_n to_o be_v many_o belong_v to_o hippo_n diaeritorum_fw-la also_o the_o church_n of_o thyana_n belong_v to_o
special_a charge_n this_o be_v the_o particular_a church_n under_o his_o personal_a government_n but_o he_o be_v not_o ruler_n of_o the_o precinct_n or_o any_o other_o church_n in_o it_o save_v only_o in_o common_a and_o in_o conjunction_n with_o the_o other_o presbyter_n who_o joint_o take_v cognizance_n of_o what_o in_o his_o church_n or_o they_o be_v of_o great_a or_o more_o general_a consequence_n and_o concern_v the_o whole_a and_o give_v order_n in_o it_o by_o common_a consent_n and_o while_o this_o be_v the_o form_n of_o government_n if_o there_o have_v be_v as_o many_o church_n there_o thus_o associate_v as_o optatus_n in_o the_o four_o age_n say_v there_o be_v at_o rome_n or_o far_o more_o they_o can_v not_o make_v a_o diocesan_n church_n unless_o a_o diocesan_n and_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v all_o one_o for_o this_o be_v plain_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n the_o ancient_a presbytery_n differ_v from_o the_o modern_a but_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o small_a moment_n in_o those_o their_o precedent_n be_v fix_v and_o constant_a in_o these_o common_o though_o not_o always_o circular_a the_o presbytery_n in_o scotland_n comprise_v some_o twelve_o some_o twenty_o some_o more_o church_n their_o moderator_n be_v at_o first_o and_o for_o some_o year_n circular_a king_n james_n afterward_o anno_fw-la 1606_o 559._o 1606_o hist_o p._n 559._o will_v have_v they_o to_o be_v constant_a and_o so_o it_o be_v order_v yet_o when_o they_o be_v fix_v no_o man_n ever_o count_v these_o presbytery_n to_o be_v diocesan_n church_n the_o church_n of_o geneva_n consist_v of_o twenty_o four_o parish_n govern_v in_o common_a by_o a_o presbytery_n with_o a_o moderator_n who_o be_v sometime_o change_v sometime_o continue_v for_o life_n calvin_n be_v precedent_n while_o he_o live_v yet_o that_o of_o geneva_n be_v not_o wont_a to_o be_v take_v for_o a_o diocesan_n church_n nor_o be_v those_o ancient_a church_n such_o while_o they_o be_v govern_v not_o by_o one_o bishop_n but_o by_o 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the_o principle_n and_o declaration_n of_o the_o ancients_n chrysostom_n ascribe_v to_o presbyter_n not_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o power_n of_o order_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o power_n of_o government_n f_o giving_z this_o as_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o 11._o in_o 1_o tim._n jom_n 11._o apostle_n give_v the_o same_o rule_n for_o the_o order_n both_o of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n there_o be_v but_o little_a difference_n betwixt_o they_o say_v he_o for_o they_o be_v ordain_v both_o to_o the_o teach_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o rule_v of_o the_o church_n now_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d denote_v jurisdiction_n or_o presidentiam_fw-la cum_fw-la potestate_fw-la and_o be_v as_o hesychius_n render_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v plain_a in_o chrysostome_n himself_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o apostle_n paul_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 25._o 〈◊〉_d in_o 1_o cor._n hom._n 23._o &_o hom_o 25._o which_o he_o elsewhere_o express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 25._o 〈◊〉_d in_o 2_o cor._n hom._n 25._o and_o speak_v of_o moses_n he_o say_v it_o be_v wonderful_a that_o he_o who_o be_v to_o be_v a_o ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v bear_v at_o such_o a_o time_n 16._o time_n in_o act._n hom._n 16._o theophilact_fw-mi make_v the_o difference_n as_o little_a between_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o ascribe_v as_o much_o power_n to_o the_o late_a almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n tim._n word_n in_o 1_o tim._n so_o theodoret_n declare_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d jurisdiction_n to_o belong_v to_o every_o presbyter_n 19_o presbyter_n in_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 19_o against_o a_o elder_a especial_o no_o less_o than_o two_o witness_n must_v be_v admit_v because_o he_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o often_o grieve_v delinquent_n they_o be_v ill_o affect_v to_o he_o will_v be_v apt_a to_o bring_v false_a accusation_n and_o this_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d include_v in_o the_o presbyter_n office_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o nazzanzen_n speak_v and_o much_o more_o to_o that_o purpose_n 1._o purpose_n orat._n 1._o and_o beside_o many_o other_o passage_n of_o like_a import_n the_o title_n of_o governor_n be_v all_o a_o long_a in_o ancient_a writer_n give_v to_o presbyter_n and_o all_o the_o expression_n which_o signify_v authority_n and_o government_n be_v ascribe_v to_o they_o thereby_o those_o that_o will_v curtail_v their_o power_n and_o make_v it_o no_o more_o of_o old_a than_o it_o be_v now_o be_v not_o a_o little_a encumber_a to_o extricate_v themselves_o a_o distinction_n be_v devise_v of_o a_o power_n internal_a and_o external_a the_o former_a they_o will_v allow_v to_o presbyter_n in_o their_o respective_a church_n not_o the_o late_a but_o this_o be_v devise_v to_o disentangle_v themselves_o and_o salve_v the_o deviation_n and_o irregularity_n of_o late_a time_n not_o that_o there_o be_v any_o ground_n for_o it_o in_o antiquity_n for_o the_o high_a act_n of_o that_o external_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n be_v excommunication_n and_o if_o this_o be_v in_o the_o presbyter_n power_n of_o old_a no_o other_o act_n of_o that_o power_n will_v or_o can_v in_o reason_n be_v deny_v they_o but_o this_o the_o ancients_n ascribe_v to_o they_o so_o jerome_n heliodorum_n jerome_n ad_fw-la heliodorum_n mihi_fw-la ante_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la sedere_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la illi_fw-la si_fw-la peccavero_fw-la licet_fw-la i_o tradere_fw-la satanae_fw-la ad_fw-la interritum_fw-la carnis_fw-la ut_fw-la spiritus_fw-la salvus_fw-la sit_fw-la chrysostome_n threaten_v some_o of_o his_o auditory_a while_o he_o be_v a_o presbyter_n to_o excommunicate_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d matth._n 〈◊〉_d hom._n 17._o in_o matth._n to_o wave_v all_o of_o like_a nature_n insist_v on_o by_o other_o justinian_n in_o the_o 6_o age_n signify_v plain_o that_o not_o only_a bishop_n but_o presbyter_n might_a excommunicate_a offender_n in_o his_o constitution_n he_o forbid_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o exclude_v any_o from_o communion_n till_o such_o cause_n be_v declare_v for_o which_o the_o canon_n appoint_v it_o to_o be_v do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o will_v have_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n rescind_v which_o be_v pass_v by_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n without_o cause_n 11._o cause_n novel_a 123._o c._n 11._o in_o the_o code_n both_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n be_v forbid_v to_o excommunicate_v in_o certain_a case_n and_o then_o mention_n the_o case_n for_o which_o they_o must_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d although_o they_o have_v be_v accustom_v to_o it_o clericis_fw-la it_o lex_fw-la 39_o sec._n 2._o tit._n de_fw-fr episc_n &_o clericis_fw-la now_o while_o presbyter_n have_v this_o power_n there_o can_v be_v no_o diocesan_n church_n whether_o they_o exercise_v it_o in_o common_a as_o be_v show_v before_o or_o particular_o in_o their_o several_a church_n as_o will_v now_o be_v make_v apparent_a for_o by_o virtue_n of_o these_o power_n the_o presbyter_n be_v real_o bishop_n though_o they_o have_v not_o always_o the_o title_n yea_o they_o be_v call_v bishop_n as_o a_o learned_a prelatist_n observe_v by_o the_o ancient_a author_n clemens_n ignatius_n tertullian_n 74._o tertullian_n thornd_v prim._n govern._n pag._n 73._o 74._o and_o have_v frequent_o the_o name_n and_o title_n which_o some_o will_v appropriate_v to_o bishop_n and_o which_o the_o father_n use_n to_o express_v the_o office_n of_o bishop_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d praepositi_fw-la antistites_fw-la praesidentes_fw-la 68_o praesidentes_fw-la idem_fw-la service_n pag._n 68_o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o there_o be_v as_o many_o bishop_n real_o in_o every_o diocese_n as_o there_o be_v particular_a church_n and_o presbyter_n there_o and_o well_o may_v they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o since_o
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when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o presbyter_n of_o that_o church_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rule_v that_o church_n with_o he_o it_o be_v the_o same_o word_n that_o the_o govern_n of_o church_n by_o other_o bishop_n be_v express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o alexander_n say_v of_o narcissus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 11_o 〈◊〉_d euseb_n l._n 6._o c_o 11_o it_o import_v no_o less_o than_o praesidere_fw-la and_o be_v ascribe_v to_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n joint_o by_o tertullian_n 39_o tertullian_n apol._n c._n 39_o cyprian_n 3._o cyprian_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 3._o and_o firmilian_a 75_o firmilian_a ep._n 75_o hence_o the_o presbyter_n be_v frequent_o say_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o the_o bishop_n 42._o bishop_n theod._n hist_o l._n 4._o c._n 8._o epiphan_n she_o 42._o for_o then_o the_o govern_v power_n of_o bishop_n be_v but_o count_v a_o ministry_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 260._o 〈◊〉_d isidore_n lib._n 4._o ep._n 260._o and_o the_o presbyter_n fellow_n minister_n with_o he_o and_o joint_a administrator_n in_o the_o government_n they_o be_v style_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 7._o 〈◊〉_d naz._n orat._n 1._o orat._n 7._o fellow_n pastor_n they_o do_v not_o then_o dream_v that_o a_o bishop_n be_v sole_a pastor_n of_o many_o church_n they_o be_v also_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v no_o less_o than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a._n 〈◊〉_d ignat._n ad_fw-la tral_n in_o chrysost_n tom_n 7._o hom._n ζ._o a._n for_o the_o presbyter_n have_v their_o throne_n with_o the_o bishop_n so_o nazianzen_n speak_v of_o basil_n when_o ordain_v presbyter_n as_o promote_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o sacred_a throne_n of_o the_o presbyter_n 20._o presbyter_n orat._n 20._o they_o be_v also_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1._o s_o chyys_n in_o tim._n hom._n 1._o but_o further_a evidence_n be_v needless_a though_o abundance_n may_v be_v produce_v since_o the_o great_a patron_n of_o episcopacy_n seem_v not_o to_o question_v it_o that_o the_o church_n be_v govern_v in_o common_a and_o the_o bishop_n be_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o importance_n without_o the_o presbyter_n it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o bishop_n bilson_n 11._o bilson_n perpet_n govern_n cap._n 11._o bishop_n downham_n 8._o downham_n defence_n lib._n 3._o l._n 1._o c._n 8._o bishop_n hall_n assert_n it_o as_o that_o which_o be_v universal_o accord_v by_o all_o antiquity_n that_o all_o thing_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v order_v and_o transact_v by_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o presbyter_n 47._o presbyter_n iren._n p._n 47._o mr._n thorndike_n prove_v at_o large_a that_o the_o government_n of_o church_n pass_v in_o common_a govern_n common_a prim._n govern_n primate_n usher_v more_o succinct_o but_o effectual_o episcopacy_n effectual_o reduct_v of_o episcopacy_n add_v but_o dr._n st._n who_o both_o assert_n and_o prove_v it_o 356._o it_o iren._n pag._n 354._o 355._o 356._o there_o be_v still_o one_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n which_o rule_v all_o the_o several_a congregation_n of_o those_o city_n in_o common_a of_o which_o the_o several_a presbyter_n of_o the_o congregation_n be_v member_n and_o in_o which_o the_o bishop_n act_v as_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o senate_n for_o the_o better_a govern_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n let_v i_o add_v when_o the_o church_n be_v so_o multiply_v in_o city_n and_o territory_n as_o that_o it_o be_v requisite_a to_o divide_v they_o into_o parish_n and_o constitute_v several_a church_n the_o bishop_n be_v not_o the_o proper_a ruler_n or_o pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a precinct_n and_o the_o church_n in_o it_o or_o of_o any_o church_n but_o one_o the_o parish_n or_o church_n be_v divide_v among_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n they_o have_v their_o several_a distinct_a cure_n and_o charge_n the_o bishop_n peculiar_a charge_n be_v the_o ecclesia_fw-la principalis_fw-la the_o chief_a parish_n or_o church_n so_o call_v or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presbyter_n perform_v all_o office_n in_o their_o several_a cure_n and_o order_v all_o affair_n which_o do_v particular_o concern_v the_o church_n where_o they_o be_v incumbent_n those_o that_o be_v of_o more_o common_a concern_n be_v order_v by_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n together_o and_o thus_o it_o be_v in_o the_o bishop_n church_n or_o parish_n he_o perform_v all_o office_n administer_v all_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n himself_o or_o by_o presbyter_n join_v with_o he_o as_o assistant_n he_o be_v to_o attend_v this_o particular_a cure_n constant_o he_o be_v not_o allow_v to_o be_v absent_a no_o not_o under_o pretence_n of_o take_v care_n for_o some_o other_o church_n if_o he_o have_v any_o business_n there_o which_o particular_o concern_v he_o he_o be_v to_o make_v quick_a dispatch_n and_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o zonaras_n stay_v there_o with_o the_o neglect_n of_o his_o proper_a flock_n this_o be_v all_o evident_a by_o a_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n a_o rursum_fw-la 71._o r_o in_o zona_fw-la n._n 77_o in_o code_n 71._o placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la nemini_fw-la sit_fw-la facultas_fw-la relicta_fw-la principali_fw-la cathedra_fw-la ad_fw-la aliquam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la in_o diocesi_fw-la constitutam_fw-la se_fw-la confer_v vel_fw-la in_o re_fw-mi propria_fw-la diutius_fw-la quam_fw-la oportet_fw-la constitutum_fw-la curam_fw-la vel_fw-la frequentationem_fw-la propriae_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la negligere_fw-la of_o this_o church_n or_o parish_n he_o be_v the_o proper_a pastor_n or_o ruler_n call_v there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o elsewhere_o 53._o elsewhere_o can._n 53._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o contradistinction_n to_o other_o part_n of_o the_o precinct_n call_v here_o diocese_n and_o the_o people_n of_o it_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o ancient_a canonist_n loc_n canonist_n zona_fw-la in_o loc_n his_o proper_a flock_n or_o people_n his_o own_o
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conveniendum_fw-la ep._n 5._o they_o dare_v not_o in_o some_o part_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o begin_n of_o constantine_n reign_n 2._o reign_n soz._n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o damasus_n the_o suppose_a author_n of_o the_o pope_n life_n say_v euaristus_n titulos_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la divisit_fw-la divide_v the_o title_n in_o rome_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o by_o title_n some_o will_v have_v we_o to_o understand_v parish_n church_n but_o it_o be_v incredible_a that_o the_o christian_n in_o trajan_n time_n when_o euaristus_n be_v bishop_n can_v erect_v any_o structure_n in_o form_n of_o church_n or_o have_v any_o distinguishable_a from_o other_o house_n so_o as_o the_o heathen_a may_v take_v notice_n of_o they_o as_o use_v or_o design_v for_o the_o religious_a exercise_n of_o christian_n who_o can_v imagine_v that_o when_o it_o be_v death_n for_o any_o one_o to_o be_v know_v to_o be_v a_o christian_n they_o shall_v frequent_v any_o know_a place_n for_o christian_a worship_n it_o be_v far_o more_o reasonable_a which_o platina_n say_v of_o calistus_n time_n more_o than_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o that_o then_o the_o meeting_n of_o christian_n be_v all_o secret_a and_o rather_o in_o chapel_n and_o those_o hide_a and_o for_o the_o most_o part_n underground_o than_o in_o open_a and_o public_a place_n cum_fw-la eâ_fw-la tempestate_fw-la ob_fw-la crebras_fw-la persecutiones_fw-la occulta_fw-la essent_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o sacella_fw-la potius_fw-la atque_fw-la eadem_fw-la abdita_fw-la &_o plerumque_fw-la subterranea_fw-la quam_fw-la apertis_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la ac_fw-la publicis_fw-la fierent_fw-la dr._n st._n say_v i_o confess_v it_o seem_v not_o probable_a to_o i_o that_o those_o tituli_fw-la be_v so_o soon_o divide_v as_o the_o 357._o iren._n pag._n 357._o time_n of_o euaristus_n who_o live_v in_o the_o time_n of_o trajan_n when_o the_o persecution_n be_v hot_a against_o the_o christian_n but_o damasus_n seem_v not_o to_o believe_v himself_o for_o in_o the_o life_n of_o dionysius_n he_o say_v hic_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la divisit_fw-la his_o reason_n conclude_v as_o much_o or_o more_o against_o the_o title_n under_o this_o notion_n ascribe_v to_o marcellus_n 200_o year_n after_o which_o some_o will_v have_v to_o be_v 25_o but_o onuphrius_n show_v they_o can_v not_o be_v more_o than_o 15_o eccles_n 15_o interpret_v voc._n eccles_n for_o marcellus_n be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n for_o six_o year_n of_o the_o ten_o persecution_n begin_v by_o dioclesian_n which_o be_v the_o long_a and_o fierce_a that_o ever_o befall_v the_o church_n when_o the_o christian_n be_v so_o far_o from_o erect_v any_o church_n that_o all_o before_o erect_v be_v by_o severe_a edict_n to_o be_v quite_o demolish_v but_o what_o be_v say_v of_o title_n divide_v by_o euaristus_n may_v be_v true_a in_o this_o sense_n that_o since_o they_o can_v not_o safe_o meet_v together_o in_o the_o persecution_n under_o trajan_n they_o disperse_v themselves_o into_o 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