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A16643 A plaine confutation of a treatise of Brovvnisme, published by some of that faction, entituled: A description of the visible Church In the confutation wherof, is shewed, that the author hath neither described a true gouerment of the Church, nor yet proued, that outward discipline is the life of the Church. Whereunto is annexed an ansvvere vnto two other pamphlets, by the said factioners latelie dispersed, of certaine conferences had with some of them in prison. Wherein is made knowen the inconstancie of this sect, what the articles are which they still maintaine: as also a short confutation of them. There is also added a short ansvvere vnto such argumentes as they haue vsed to proue the Church of England not to be the Church of God. Alison, Richard, controversialist. 1590 (1590) STC 355; ESTC S100153 67,007 148

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the_o promise_n and_o a_o true_a worshipper_n of_o god_n as_o naaman_n the_o syrian_a and_o job_n in_o the_o land_n of_o hus_n the_o visible_a church_n then_o be_v among_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n as_o touch_v the_o other_o matter_n viz._n that_o this_o church_n apparent_a be_v commend_v unto_o we_o both_o for_o the_o purity_n thereof_o in_o itself_o and_o also_o for_o the_o uncleanness_n of_o all_o those_o which_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o same_o it_o be_v a_o palpable_a grossness_n to_o conceive_v &_o a_o sottish_a folly_n to_o publish_v such_o a_o dream_n for_o be_v all_o they_o clean_o which_o enter_v into_o the_o visible_a church_n these_o man_n themselves_o have_v confess_v the_o contrary_a 21._o be_v all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n write_v in_o the_o lamb_n book_n of_o life_n 16._o who_o
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be_v abuse_v by_o man_n it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o we_o have_v they_o not_o at_o all_o if_o strife_n be_v about_o the_o change_n of_o the_o name_n wise_a man_n will_v condemn_v it_o for_o folly_n to_o the_o second_o i_o answer_v that_o her_o majesty_n be_v supreme_a governess_n over_o we_o in_o all_o cause_v both_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a and_o therefore_o have_v authority_n to_o appoint_v such_o governor_n to_o confirm_v that_o government_n which_o be_v not_o contrary_a unto_o god_n word_n shall_v seem_v meet_a unto_o she_o now_o this_o government_n which_o we_o have_v else_o where_o be_v show_v to_o have_v be_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o discipline_n and_o avoid_v confusion_n before_o the_o time_n that_o antichrist_n bare_a sway_n in_o the_o church_n i_o grant_v that_o afterward_o he_o abuse_v it_o so_o do_v he_o many_o other_o matter_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v count_v antichristian_a have_v not_o their_o beginning_n of_o he_o when_o they_o be_v restore_v unto_o their_o first_o use_n but_o this_o one_o calumniation_n bring_v forth_o these_o fruit_n first_o in_o teach_v that_o every_o private_a man_n have_v authority_n in_o the_o election_n of_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n or_o else_o the_o government_n be_v antichristian_a the_o private_a man_n be_v teach_v to_o intrude_v into_o her_o highness_n right_a to_o who_o this_o matter_n be_v grant_v by_o act_n of_o parliament_n 1._o eliz._n 1._o again_o in_o dissuade_v from_o the_o obedience_n of_o this_o authority_n the_o commandment_n of_o god_n be_v make_v no_o commandment_n ro._n 13._o 1._o which_o will_v that_o every_o soul_n be_v subject_a unto_o the_o high_a power_n and_o as_o absalon_n with_o david_n so_o do_v these_o man_n deal_v with_o her_o majesty_n in_o seek_v to_o alienate_v the_o heart_n of_o good_a subject_n from_o she_o by_o cry_v out_o against_o her_o government_n promise_v better_a thing_n if_o they_o be_v hearken_v unto_o that_o man_n may_v be_v bring_v to_o join_v in_o their_o rebellion_n we_o shun_v the_o jesuite_n who_o from_o house_n to_o house_n do_v labour_n to_o draw_v the_o people_n into_o a_o loathe_n of_o their_o present_a estate_n this_o native_a schism_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o to_o be_v look_v unto_o as_o it_o come_v with_o a_o great_a show_n of_o godliness_n and_o yet_o indevore_v to_o work_v confusion_n by_o these_o jesuitical_a proceed_n brownist_n not_o as_o their_o priest_n sacrilegious_o profane_v his_o name_n with_o their_o idolatry_n prostitute_v his_o blood_n and_o make_v he_o a_o priest_n and_o sacrifice_n to_o infidel_n and_o the_o most_o wicked_a offender_n answer_n the_o argument_n be_v thus_o the_o true_a church_n receive_v christ_n as_o their_o priest_n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o because_o it_o prophane_v his_o name_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o no_o true_a church_n the_o assumption_n be_v false_a for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n be_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o only_a priest_n who_o by_o his_o own_o blood_n enter_v in_o once_o into_o the_o holy_a place_n and_o obtain_v eternal_a redemption_n for_o we_o and_o therefore_o that_o man_n shall_v walk_v worthy_a of_o so_o holy_a a_o call_n as_o christ_n have_v vouchsafe_v to_o set_v they_o in_o neither_o in_o their_o worship_v of_o god_n profane_v his_o name_n not_o by_o their_o ungodliness_n abuse_v his_o sacrament_n wherein_o the_o practice_n by_o our_o church_n command_v be_v that_o profane_a &_o ungodly_a man_n be_v repel_v from_o the_o same_o it_o be_v not_o therefore_o a_o matter_n to_o be_v general_o lay_v unto_o the_o charge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n that_o they_o profane_v his_o name_n etc._n etc._n i_o grant_v indeed_o that_o the_o pastor_n may_v through_o ignorance_n negligence_n or_o some_o other_o evil_a occasion_n deliver_v the_o sacrament_n to_o a_o unworthy_a man_n which_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n in_o the_o receiver_n so_o may_v it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o sin_n in_o the_o deliverer_n yet_o will_v this_o be_v a_o weak_a reason_n to_o convince_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o prostitute_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n deny_v his_o priesthood_n profane_v his_o name_n etc._n etc._n see_v that_o judas_n be_v partaker_n of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o yet_o the_o whole_a company_n be_v not_o pollute_v thereby_o brownist_n not_o as_o their_o prophet_n give_v no_o obedience_n to_o his_o word_n use_v it_o as_o a_o mantel_n to_o cover_v their_o sin_n rather_o than_o as_o a_o rule_n whereby_o to_o direct_v their_o life_n not_o seek_v a_o true_a ministry_n but_o maintain_v a_o false_a of_o which_o sort_n the_o whole_a ministry_n of_o the_o land_n be_v which_o be_v permit_v to_o teach_v in_o their_o public_a place_n to_o who_o they_o give_v ear_n answer_n the_o argument_n be_v this_o the_o true_a church_n receive_v christ_n as_o her_o prophet_n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o which_o argument_n they_o prove_v thus_o first_o because_o the_o church_n of_o england_n give_v no_o obedience_n to_o his_o word_n second_o because_o they_o use_v it_o as_o a_o mantle_n to_o cover_v their_o sin_n and_o thirdlie_o because_o they_o seek_v not_o a_o true_a ministry_n but_o maintain_v a_o false_a it_o have_v heretofore_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o best_a church_n have_v have_v some_o bad_a member_n in_o they_o whereof_o some_o in_o athiesme_fw-fr despise_a the_o word_n &_o other_o in_o hypocrisy_n make_v it_o a_o cloak_n to_o cover_v their_o ungodliness_n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o england_n go_v not_o scotfree_a but_o for_o the_o wickedness_n of_o some_o to_o condemn_v the_o whole_a be_v very_o hard_o and_o so_o sharp_o to_o censure_v all_o be_v intolerable_a yet_o these_o man_n do_v it_o when_o they_o affirm_v that_o no_o obedience_n be_v give_v to_o the_o word_n as_o if_o all_o from_o the_o
the_o corruption_n of_o their_o heart_n three_o that_o our_o ministry_n be_v antichristian_a a_o matter_n handle_v pag._n 125._o the_o scurrility_n in_o call_v they_o hireling_n mercenary_a preacher_n etc._n etc._n deserve_v no_o answer_n the_o name_n of_o parson_n vicar_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o make_v a_o difference_n in_o the_o ministry_n but_o in_o their_o maintenance_n four_o we_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o popish_a court_n as_o high_a commission_n etc._n etc._n whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o all_o these_o court_n have_v their_o authority_n from_o her_o majesty_n though_o some_o of_o they_o more_o direct_o than_o the_o other_o in_o consideration_n whereof_o to_o call_v the_o lest_o antichristian_a be_v arrogant_a but_o to_o join_v they_o all_o in_o one_o sentence_n &_o to_o dissuade_v her_o majesty_n subject_n from_o yield_a obedience_n unto_o any_o of_o they_o it_o will_v be_v find_v a_o act_n of_o no_o good_a subject_n yet_o for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o purpose_v not_o to_o give_v judgement_n in_o the_o matter_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o such_o as_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o law_n only_o i_o will_v propound_v the_o case_n which_o be_v this_o the_o high_a court_n of_o parliament_n have_v agree_v that_o the_o queen_n her_o highness_n &_o successor_n king_n &_o queen_n of_o this_o realm_n shall_v have_v full_a power_n by_o letter_n patent_n under_o the_o great_a seal_n to_o name_n and_o authorise_v when_o as_o often_o and_o for_o so_o long_a time_n as_o her_o highness_n her_o heir_n or_o successor_n shall_v think_v meet_v such_o person_n or_o person_n as_o she_o or_o they_o shall_v think_v meet_a to_o execute_v under_o she_o etc._n etc._n all_o manner_n jurisdiction_n privilege_n and_o preeminence_n in_o any_o wise_a concern_v any_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n within_o england_n and_o ireland_n etc._n etc._n 1._o eliz._n 1._o now_o her_o majesty_n by_o the_o authority_n aforesaid_a have_v grant_v her_o letter_n patent_n under_o the_o great_a seal_n for_o the_o two_o court_n of_o high_a commission_n and_o delegate_n and_o by_o the_o say_a authority_n first_o from_o the_o parliament_n and_o then_o from_o her_o majesty_n these_o two_o court_n do_v stand_v and_o not_o by_o any_o other_o right_a or_o authority_n whatsoever_o yet_o these_o two_o court_n of_o high_a commission_n and_o of_o delegate_n be_v here_o term_v popish_a and_o antichristian_a court_n and_o the_o people_n be_v condemn_v to_o be_v antichristian_a which_o yield_v obedience_n unto_o they_o this_o therefore_o be_v the_o case_n whether_o it_o touch_v her_o majesty_n or_o not_o that_o libel_n rail_v upon_o and_o call_v her_o highness_n authority_n which_o be_v warrant_v by_o her_o broad_a seal_n popish_a antichristian_a etc._n etc._n brownist_n these_o assembly_n be_v not_o rule_v by_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n but_o by_o the_o canon_n injunction_n and_o decree_n of_o those_o antichristian_a and_o popish_a court_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n the_o argument_n be_v this_o the_o true_a church_n be_v rule_v by_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v not_o &c._n &c._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n if_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o last_o will_v set_v down_o a_o perfect_a government_n for_o his_o church_n as_o they_o say_v he_o have_v there_o be_v little_a use_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o direction_n of_o discipline_n under_o the_o gospel_n but_o this_o argument_n be_v in_o effect_n the_o same_o with_o the_o former_a need_v no_o other_o answer_n than_o it_o have_v brownist_n these_o people_n stand_v not_o in_o &_o for_o their_o christian_a liberty_n but_o all_o of_o they_o remain_v in_o bondage_n to_o these_o egyptian_a and_o babylonishe_n yoke_n yield_v obedience_n unto_o these_o court_n and_o their_o canon_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n the_o argument_n be_v this_o all_o and_o every_o of_o the_o true_a church_n stand_v in_o and_o for_o their_o christian_n liberty_n to_o practice_v whatsoever_o god_n have_v command_v they_o etc._n etc._n but_o in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n they_o stand_v not_o for_o their_o christian_n liberty_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n we_o have_v see_v pag._n 49._o &_o 50._o that_o the_o private_a man_n do_v pass_v the_o bond_n of_o his_o call_n in_o presume_v to_o deal_v with_o public_a reformation_n again_o it_o be_v say_v pag._n 45._o that_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n it_o do_v not_o always_o fall_v out_o that_o every_o member_n have_v that_o freedom_n which_o be_v requisite_a in_o the_o performance_n of_o their_o christian_n duty_n of_o his_o call_n the_o proposition_n therefore_o be_v false_a as_o for_o the_o assumption_n in_o differ_v nothing_o from_o the_o three_o former_a it_o do_v commend_v the_o great_a facility_n of_o the_o author_n who_o in_o reason_v in_o so_o small_a variety_n of_o matter_n be_v able_a to_o frame_v so_o great_a a_o change_n of_o argument_n which_o yet_o be_v consider_v of_o do_v appear_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n brownist_n these_o assembly_n have_v not_o the_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v unto_o his_o church_n unto_o the_o world_n end_n &_o all_o the_o power_n of_o earth_n and_o hell_n can_v take_v from_o they_o viz._n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v and_o to_o reform_v thing_n that_o be_v amiss_o but_o be_v drive_v to_o the_o commissary_n court_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n answer_n the_o argument_n be_v this_o the_o true_a church_n have_v power_n to_o execute_v the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o proposition_n fail_v for_o the_o true_a church_n be_v sometime_o without_o outward_a government_n whereof_o read_v pag._n 25._o and_o so_o consequent_o without_o the_o power_n which_o this_o man_n speak_v off_o for_o i_o know_v he_o will_v not_o restrain_v this_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v though_o he_o may_v unto_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n whereof_o notwithstanding_o christ_n speak_v joh._n 20._o 23._o saying_n who_o sin_n soever_o you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v and_o who_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v as_o for_o the_o assumption_n it_o be_v most_o untrue_a for_o we_o have_v not_o only_o the_o power_n of_o god_n word_n which_o he_o have_v give_v unto_o his_o ministry_n to_o bind_v and_o to_o loose_v thereby_o but_o also_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o outward_a government_n i_o grant_v that_o every_o several_a congregation_n have_v not_o this_o power_n and_o i_o dare_v affirm_v that_o in_o no_o age_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o every_o several_a congregation_n have_v this_o authority_n but_o even_o in_o those_o church_n which_o have_v a_o eldership_n the_o same_o be_v not_o in_o every_o assembly_n but_o diverse_a congregation_n be_v order_v by_o one_o seniory_n therefore_o to_o say_v that_o because_o every_o private_a congregation_n have_v not_o this_o power_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o church_n be_v a_o childish_a kind_n of_o reason_v brownist_n these_o assembly_n cast_v out_o sathan_n by_o the_o power_n of_o sathan_n namely_o by_o these_o imp_n of_o antichrist_n the_o bishop_n commissary_n and_o priest_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o and_o for_o all_o their_o reason_n several_a and_o join_v can_v be_v hold_v in_o any_o christian_a judgement_n the_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n answer_n in_o this_o last_o argument_n be_v grant_v unto_o we_o that_o which_o before_o be_v deny_v viz._n that_o our_o church_n have_v power_n of_o cast_v out_o but_o it_o fail_v in_o the_o manner_n for_o if_o they_o say_v true_a this_o power_n be_v not_o from_o christ_n but_o from_o the_o imp_n of_o antichrist_n etc._n etc._n unto_o which_o accusation_n i_o answer_v the_o end_n wherefore_o man_n be_v cast_v out_o from_o among_o we_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n shall_v be_v that_o the_o offender_n by_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n may_v be_v bring_v unto_o repentance_n now_o for_o the_o order_n hereof_o the_o people_n be_v not_o in_o the_o weighty_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n to_o have_v their_o voice_n pag._n 47._o etc._n etc._n and_o a_o presbytery_n in_o every_o congregation_n can_v be_v have_v pag._n ●8_o therefore_o neither_o election_n ordination_n excommunication_n nor_o other_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v commit_v to_o every_o particular_a congregation_n as_o for_o this_o unchristian_a deal_n in_o condemn_v for_o antichristian_a whatsoever_o be_v not_o according_a to_o their_o humour_n it_o have_v be_v often_o answer_v some_o defect_n there_o be_v in_o our_o government_n we_o challenge_v no_o perfection_n some_o corruption_n there_o be_v oftentimes_o in_o such_o as_o have_v the_o order_n of_o it_o i_o defend_v not_o all_o but_o in_o this_o i_o will_v be_v resolve_v if_o we_o by_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n cast_v out_o satan_n by_o what_o power_n do_v they_o cast_v out_o