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case_n hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o judge_n of_o this_o land_n be_v bind_v by_o law_n to_o administer_v justice_n and_o equity_n unto_o the_o poor_a subject_n notwithstanding_o that_o the_o princess_n letter_n be_v direct_v to_o they_o to_o the_o contrary_n and_o as_o to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n all_o king_n and_o prince_n be_v bind_v there_o by_o to_z be_v so_o far_o from_o think_v themselves_o tie_v by_o no_o band_n unto_o their_o subject_n as_o they_o be_v plain_o forbid_v even_o to_o be_v lift_v up_o in_o mind_n above_o their_o brethren_n deut._n 1â—_n 20._o for_o so_o the_o word_n in_o that_o place_n call_v their_o subject_n and_o servant_n the_o king_n of_o judah_n who_o have_v the_o great_a privilege_n and_o prerogative_n both_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a over_o their_o people_n that_o ever_o any_o king_n or_o prince_n can_v have_v because_o they_o be_v type_n and_o figure_n of_o that_o great_a king_n of_o king_n the_o lorenzo_n jesus_n evere_v into_o covenant_n 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be_v keep_v with_o they_o otherwise_o whereto_o serve_v the_o covenant_n but_o alas_o i_o enter_v not_o to_o scan_v her_o majesty_n oath_n i_o only_o tell_v you_o what_o her_o law_n allow_v i_o and_o my_o poor_a brethren_n and_o i_o be_o assure_v if_o her_o majesty_n know_v the_o equity_n and_o uprightness_n of_o our_o cause_n we_o shall_v not_o receive_v this_o hard_a measure_n which_o we_o now_o sustain_v we_o and_o our_o cause_n be_v never_o bring_v before_o she_o but_z in_o the_o odious_a weed_n of_o sedition_n rebellion_n schism_n her_o sie_n etc_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n too_o see_v the_o edge_n of_o her_o sword_n turn_v against_o us._n f._n have_v not_o her_o majesty_n by_o her_o law_n establish_v these_o office_n and_o this_o order_n that_o now_o be_v
not_o a_o oath_n the_fw-mi must_v great_a regard_n and_o reverence_n be_v use_v in_o a_o oath_n and_o a_o oath_n for_o confirmation_n ought_v to_o be_v the_o end_n of_o all_o strife_n my_o lo._n if_o i_o shall_v err_v and_o deliver_v it_o upon_o my_o oath_n for_o truth_n it_o be_v a_o double_a sin_n likewise_o if_o i_o shall_v either_o not_o know_v not_o remember_v or_o not_o utter_v the_o whole_a truth_n i_o be_v by_o such_o a_o rash_a oath_n forswear_a but_o by_o god_n grace_n i_o will_v answer_v nothing_o but_o the_o truth_n cant._n a_o christian_a man_n word_n ought_v to_o be_v as_o true_a as_o his_o oath_n we_o will_v proceed_v with_o you_o without_o your_o oath_n and_o take_v a_o paper_n of_o interr_fw-la in_o his_o hand_n say_z what_o say_v you_o to_o this_o be_v it_o lawful_a to_o say_v the_o pater_fw-la noster_fw-la public_o in_o the_o church_n or_o private_o as_o a_o prayer_n or_o no_o b._n i_o know_v not_o what_o you_o mean_v by_o your_o pater_fw-la noster_fw-la unless_o peradventure_o that_o form_n for_o prayer_n which_o our_o saviour_n christ_n teach_v his_o disciple_n common_o call_v the_o lord_n prayer_n cant._n i_o so_o mean_a then_o command_v he_o the_o first_o question_n to_o be_v thus_o write_v quest_n 1._o whither_o he_o think_v the_o lord_n prayer_n may_v public_o in_o the_o church_n or_o private_o be_v use_v as_o a_o prayer_n or_o no_o when_o i_o have_v express_v my_o mind_n the_o arch_a b._n command_v it_o shall_v be_v record_v but_o i_o desire_v the_o judge_n that_o i_o may_v with_o my_o own_o hand_n write_v my_o own_o answer_n which_z be_v grant_v i_o my_o answer_n then_o to_o the_o first_o question_n be_v ans_fw-fr it_o be_v to_o be_v use_v to_o that_o end_n for_o which_o it_o be_v give_v by_o our_o saviour_n christ_n to_o his_o disciple_n as_o a_o sununarie_a groundwork_n or_o foundation_n of_o all_o faithful_a prayer_n whereby_o to_o instruct_v and_o assure_v their_o conscience_n that_o their_o petition_n be_v according_a to_o the_o 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presumption_n to_o impose_v any_o one_o devise_v apocrypha_fw-la prayer_n upon_o the_o church_n q._n 3._o whither_o he_o think_v that_o the_o common_a prayer_n command_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o this_o land_n be_z idolatrous_a superstitious_a and_o popish_a a._n i_o think_v that_o this_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n public_o enjoin_v and_o receive_v in_o the_o assembly_n of_o this_o land_n be_v well_o nigh_o altogether_o idolatrous_a superstitious_a and_o popish_a q._n 4._o whither_o he_o think_v that_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v public_o administer_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v true_a sacrament_n or_o no_o a._n i_o think_v that_o the_o sacrament_n as_o they_o be_v minister_v in_o these_o public_a assembly_n be_v not_o true_a sacrament_n and_o seal_v not_o the_o favour_n and_o blessing_n of_o god_n unto_o they_o q._n 5._o whither_o he_o think_v that_o the_o law_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n now_o by_o authority_n establish_v be_v unlawful_a and_o antichristian_a or_o no_o a._n because_o the_o law_n decree_n and_o canon_n of_o your_o church_n be_v so_o many_o and_o infinite_a i_o can_v not_o judge_v of_o they_o all_o because_o i_o know_v not_o all_o but_o this_o i_o say_v that_z many_o of_o they_o as_o also_o your_o ecclesiastical_a court_n and_o governor_n are_z unlawful_a and_o antichristian_a q._n 6._o whither_o he_o think_v that_o such_o as_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n since_o queen_n elisabethe_v reign_v have_v be_v right_o baptise_a or_o aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v again_o a._n i_o think_v as_o before_o of_o your_o sacrament_n that_o they_o have_v not_o be_v right_o baptise_a according_a to_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n yet_o that_o they_o need_v not_o neither_o aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v again_o i_o doubt_v lest_o the_o arch_n b._n hear_v my_o answer_n of_o rebaptise_v cause_v it_o to_o be_v leave_v out_o of_o the_o question_n and_o my_o answer_v taking_z that_o which_o may_v best_o serve_v their_o own_o turn_n to_o bring_v we_o into_o suspicion_n of_o error_n and_o hatred_n hereunto_o many_o speech_n arise_v of_o the_o true_a and_o false_a sacrament_n ministry_n government_n as_o also_o of_o the_o true_a and_o false_a church_n i_o show_v that_o the_o false_a church_n have_v also_o her_o sacrament_n ministry_n government_n though_o not_o aright_o then_o judge_n anderson_n cause_v this_o question_n to_o be_v move_v to_o i_o q_o 7._o whither_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o it_o stand_v now_o establish_v be_v the_o true_a establish_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o whither_o the_o people_n therein_o be_v the_o true_a and_o faithful_a people_n of_o god_n or_o no._n a._n i_o think_v that_o these_o parish_n assembly_n as_o they_o stand_v general_o in_o england_n be_v not_o the_o true_a establish_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o the_o people_n as_o they_o now_o stand_v in_o this_o disorder_n and_o confusion_n in_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v hold_v the_o true_a and_o faithful_a people_n of_o christ_n here_o the_o judge_n anderson_n take_v exception_n as_o the_o b._n of_o lond._n also_o at_o these_o word_n parish_n assembly_n i_o answer_v the_o judge_n that_o i_o can_v not_o for_o some_o weighty_a respect_n spare_v he_o that_o word_n for_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_z that_o the_o lord_n have_v many_o precious_a and_o elect_a vessel_n among_o they_o who_o he_o will_v in_o his_o good_a time_n call_v forth_o who_o it_o become_v not_o i_o absolute_o to_o judge_v lest_o i_o shall_v enter_v into_o god_n seat_n yet_o i_o can_v not_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n while_o they_o stand_v member_n of_o these_o assembly_n count_v they_o faithful_a to_o the_o b._n i_o say_v that_o when_o they_o shall_v better_o consider_v of_o my_o answer_n they_o shall_v have_v less_o cause_n to_o find_v fault_n much_o trouble_n we_o have_v before_o we_o can_v agree_v of_o the_o state_n and_o word_n of_o their_o question_n with_o put_v out_o and_o change_v which_o discourse_n it_o be_v not_o my_o purpose_n here_o to_o set_v down_o so_o much_o as_o the_o question_n and_o answer_n agree_v upon_o and_o record_v although_o 〈◊〉_d some_o cause_n know_v to_o myself_o and_z to_o some_o of_o their_o conscience_n which_o may_v hereafter_o be_v know_v to_o all_o the_o world_n i_o think_v it_o not_o imperâ—â—nent_a to_o insert_v this_o q_o 8._o whither_o he_o think_v the_o queen_n majesty_n be_v supreme_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o whither_o she_o may_v maâ—e_n law_n for_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o no_o a._n i_o think_v the_o queen_n majesty_n supreme_a governor_n of_o the_o whole_a land_n and_z over_o the_o church_n also_o body_n and_o good_n but_o i_o think_v that_o no_o prince_n neither_o the_o whole_a world_n neither_o the_o church_n itself_o may_v make_v any_o law_n for_o the_o church_n other_o than_o christ_n have_v already_o leave_v in_o his_o word_n yet_o i_o think_v it_o the_o duty_n of_o every_o christian_n and_o principal_o of_o the_o prince_n to_z inquire_v out_o and_o reâ—â—e_v the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o stir_v up_o all_o their_o subject_n to_o more_o diligent_a and_o careful_a keep_n of_o the_o same_o aâ—_n we_o have_v much_o a_o do_v to_o come_v to_o the_o state_n of_o this_o question_n so_o the_o 〈◊〉_d show_v themselves_o evil_a satisfy_v with_o my_o answer_n and_z say_v that_o the_o papist_n deal_v more_o simple_o than_o i_o do_v and_o sure_o they_o very_o greevouslie_o interrupt_v i_o with_o slander_n evil_a speech_n and_o blaspheme_v during_o the_o time_n of_o my_o writing_n these_o answer_n especial_o the_o b_o of_o lond._n so_o that_o i_o be_v even_o enforce_v sometime_o to_o turn_v unto_o he_o and_o show_v he_o of_o his_o shameless_a untruth_n and_o
slander_n the_o chief_a justice_n of_o engl._n here_o say_v that_o he_o think_v i_o answer_v very_o direct_o and_o compendious_o here_o again_o upon_o some_o speech_n that_o arise_v the_o judge_n anderson_n ask_v i_o whither_o i_o think_v it_o lawful_a to_o hang_v a_o thief_n or_o no_o i_o answer_v that_o there_o be_v many_o kind_n of_o thief_n as_o sacrilegious_a thief_n man_n stealer_n etc_o that_o these_o aught_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n to_o die_v then_o he_o say_v he_o mean_v ordinary_a thief_n of_o good_n and_o chattel_n i_o say_v that_z god_fw-we in_o the_o law_n have_v ordain_v a_o other_o kind_n of_o punishment_n for_o such_o whereupon_o the_o bb._n frame_v this_o question_n q._n 9_o whither_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o prince_n to_o alter_v the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n according_a to_o the_o state_n of_o her_o country_n and_o policy_n or_o no_o a._n i_o ought_v to_o be_v wise_a in_o sobriety_n and_o not_o to_o answer_v more_o than_o i_o know_v great_a doubt_n and_o controversy_n have_v be_v about_o this_o question_n a_o long_a time_n but_z for_o my_o part_n i_o can_v not_o see_v that_o any_o more_o of_o the_o judicial_a law_n be_v or_o can_v be_v abrogate_a by_o any_o mortal_a man_n or_o country_n upon_o what_o occasion_n soever_o then_o belong_v to_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o worship_n of_o the_o temple_n for_o which_o we_o have_v receive_v other_o law_n and_o worship_n in_o christ_n testament_n but_o that_o the_o judgement_n due_a and_o set_v down_o by_o god_n for_o the_o transgression_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n can_v be_v change_v or_o alter_v without_o injury_n to_o the_o moral_a law_n and_o god_n himself_o yet_o this_o as_o all_o my_o other_o answer_n by_o protestation_n that_z if_o any_o man_n can_v better_o instruct_v i_o therein_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o be_o always_o ready_a to_o change_v my_o mind_n whereupon_o the_o chief_n justice_n of_o engl._n say_v i_o speak_v well_o and_o therefore_o say_v if_o i_o be_v in_o 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government_n and_o not_o private_a man_n so_o they_o be_v not_o guilty_a with_o the_o prince_n in_o his_o offence_n but_o abstain_v and_o keep_v themselves_o pure_a from_o do_v or_o consent_v to_o any_o unlawful_a thing_n command_v by_o the_o prince_n which_z they_o must_v do_v as_o they_o tender_v their_o own_o salvation_n q._n 11._o whither_o he_o think_v that_o every_o parish_n or_o particular_a church_n ought_v to_o have_v a_o presbytery_n a._n the_o holy_a government_n of_o christ_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o profane_a or_o unbelieve_a neither_o can_v it_o without_o manifest_a sacrilege_n be_v set_v over_o these_o parish_n as_o they_o now_o stand_v in_o confusion_n no_o difference_n make_v betwixt_o the_o faithful_a and_o unbelieve_a all_o be_v in_o different_o receive_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n but_o over_o every_o particular_a congregation_n of_o christ_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o eldership_n and_o every_o such_o congregation_n ought_v to_o their_o utter_a 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