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A35667 Truth outweighing error, or, An ansvver to a treatise lately published by J.B. entituled, A confession of his faith and a reason of his practice, or, With who he can, and with who he cannot hold church-fellowship ... by John Denne ... J. D. (John Denne) 1673 (1673) Wing D1027; ESTC R11873 57,462 128

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thy_o own_o for_o it_o be_v lawful_a in_o itself_o but_o of_o the_o other_o who_o think_v it_o unlawful_a touch_v which_o j._n bunyan_n pretend_v that_o you_o may_v think_v he_o to_o make_v his_o way_n plain_a it_o may_v be_v object_v that_o what_o the_o apostle_n write_v they_o write_v to_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o the_o argument_n in_o the_o epistle_n about_o thing_n circumstantial_a respect_v not_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v first_o that_o this_o be_v a_o mistake_n the_o first_o to_o the_o corinthian_n the_o epistle_n of_o james_n the_o first_o and_o second_o of_o peter_n the_o first_o epistle_n of_o john_n be_v express_o write_v to_o all_o the_o godly_a as_o well_o as_o to_o particular_a church_n pag._n 86._o second_o that_o if_o water-baptism_n as_o the_o circumstance_n with_o which_o the_o church_n be_v pester_v of_o old_a trouble_v their_o peace_n wound_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o godly_a dismember_v and_o break_v their_o 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