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naught_o and_o do_v but_o abuse_v they_o and_o many_o more_o with_o they_o yet_o if_o they_o will_v please_v to_o give_v it_o a_o name_n by_o which_o we_o may_v know_v it_o we_o shall_v be_v the_o better_a able_a to_o examine_v and_o judge_v of_o it_o for_o my_o part_n i_o very_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v very_o few_o opinion_n or_o heresy_n as_o some_o man_n call_v heresy_n which_o be_v damnable_a in_o this_o sense_n my_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o scripture_n so_o express_o say_v that_o whosoever_o believe_v in_o jesus_n christ_n shall_v not_o perish_v but_o have_v everlasting_a life_n and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o opinion_n absolute_o inconsistent_a with_o such_o a_o believe_v but_o only_a that_o which_o be_v either_o formal_o or_o virtual_o contradictory_n to_o it_o certain_a i_o be_o that_o there_o be_v not_o many_o damnable_a in_o the_o sense_n now_o argue_v upon_o yea_o i_o make_v much_o question_n whether_o all_o opinion_n which_o be_v only_o virtual_o and_o by_o way_n 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follow_v in_o this_o answer_n be_v of_o a_o far_o weak_a 65._o sect._n 65._o constitution_n then_o that_o which_o go_v before_o for_o here_o they_o affirm_v that_o they_o that_o hold_v any_o of_o the_o other_o opinion_n punishable_a by_o the_o ordinance_n can_v be_v so_o full_a of_o grace_n and_o goodness_n as_o they_o may_v be_v who_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n but_o first_o the_o querie_n do_v not_o make_v any_o such_o ridiculous_a demand_n whether_o those_o that_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n may_v not_o be_v as_o full_a of_o grace_n and_o goodness_n as_o those_o that_o hold_v the_o opinion_n make_v obnoxious_a by_o the_o ordinance_n but_o the_o purport_n of_o the_o querie_n be_v this_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o these_o viz._n take_v in_o their_o present_a condition_n with_o all_o their_o infirmity_n whether_o in_o point_n of_o opinion_n or_o practice_n may_v be_v as_o full_a of_o grace_n and_o goodness_n as_o the_o other_o viz._n take_v and_o 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ordinance_n be_v every_o whit_n as_o reduceable_a by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n as_o the_o error_n hold_v and_o maintain_v by_o man_n of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n for_o i_o suppose_v that_o they_o also_o have_v their_o error_n if_o they_o be_v man_n and_o their_o person_n or_o soul_n likewise_o capable_a of_o as_o great_a inlargement_n for_o and_o with_o grace_n from_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n as_o they_o three_o whereas_o they_o further_o here_o say_v that_o those_o who_o hold_v and_o public_o maintain_v any_o of_o those_o heresy_n can_v be_v so_o true_o serviceable_a to_o the_o state_n as_o those_o of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n because_o that_o thereby_o they_o even_o provoke_v god_n against_o the_o state_n by_o the_o dishonour_n they_o bring_v to_o he_o and_o the_o mischief_n they_o do_v to_o his_o people_n do_v they_o suppose_v that_o those_o of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n among_o who_o it_o be_v notorious_o know_v that_o there_o
london_n pag._n 11._o of_o the_o preface_n only_o this_o i_o shall_v take_v leave_n to_o observe_v and_o say_v that_o these_o antiquerie-master_n be_v their_o crafts-master_n in_o this_o pontifical_a artifice_n for_o oh_o how_o be_v they_o trouble_v how_o be_v they_o pain_v and_o afflict_v in_o soul_n about_o the_o query_n not_o good_a man_n that_o themselves_o or_o their_o interest_n in_o the_o cause_n of_o presbytery_n be_v any_o way_n disturb_v strike_v at_o or_o in_o danger_n to_o suffer_v by_o they_o we_o hear_v ne_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la not_o the_o least_o mutter_v or_o whisper_v of_o this_o sorrow_n or_o complaint_n throughout_o the_o whole_a discourse_n but_o the_o great_a anguish_n and_o vexation_n the_o amazement_n 5._o amazement_n page_n 5._o of_o their_o devout_a soul_n be_v that_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o spirit_n 6._o spirit_n page_n 6._o be_v blasphemeâ—_n in_o they_o that_o in_o stead_n of_o bring_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n the_o query_n have_v bring_v all_o the_o doctrine_n of_o god_n into_o so_o absolute_a a_o uncertainty_n o_o thou_o that_o search_v the_o reins_n and_o the_o heart_n will_v thoâ—e_v not_o judge_v the_o hypocrisy_n of_o these_o man_n if_o yet_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n and_o give_v to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o according_a to_o their_o work_n 23._o work_n revel_v 2._o 23._o for_o what_o be_v the_o man_n so_o super-superiative_o zealous_a for_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n and_o of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o yet_o all_o their_o faith_n all_o their_o knowledge_n all_o the_o doctrine_n they_o have_v receive_v concern_v god_n bring_v into_o a_o absolute_a uncertainty_n by_o one_o poor_a querie_n or_o question_n if_o a_o question_n have_v so_o dangerous_o shake_v the_o religion_n of_o these_o man_n sure_o even_o a_o weak_a argument_n will_v turn_v it_o upside_o down_o o_o church_n of_o england_n 7._o sect._n 7._o whatsoever_o thou_o be_v tremble_v to_o build_v thy_o faith_n upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o these_o thy_o teacher_n for_o they_o confess_v if_o they_o mean_v as_o they_o say_v that_o in_o all_o these_o doctrine_n concern_v god_n and_o christ_n they_o be_v bring_v into_o a_o absolute_a uncertainty_n and_o that_o by_o the_o force_n of_o one_o question_v only_o it_o seem_v that_o their_o belief_n of_o all_o they_o know_v of_o all_o they_o teach_v concern_v god_n and_o christ_n be_v suspend_v upon_o the_o hope_n they_o have_v of_o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o high_a presbytery_n so_o that_o when_o the_o goodness_n of_o this_o cause_n be_v any_o way_n make_v doubtful_a or_o questionable_a unto_o they_o a_o pang_n of_o a_o proportionable_a uncertainty_n in_o those_o other_o thing_n also_o seize_v on_o they_o they_o say_v that_o they_o perceive_v that_o which_o no_o man_n perceive_v beside_o themselves_o viz._n that_o the_o querist_n be_v in_o the_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n and_o bond_n of_o iniquity_n but_o the_o querist_n perceive_v that_o which_o be_v of_o a_o far_o clear_a vision_n viz._n that_o â—f_o all_o the_o doctrine_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n be_v with_o they_o bring_v into_o a_o absolute_a uncertainty_n they_o be_v if_o not_o in_o yet_o very_o near_o to_o that_o gall_n of_o bitterness_n and_o bond_n of_o iniquity_n whereof_o they_o speak_v but_o what_o strange_a accident_n befall_v the_o learning_n of_o these_o man_n that_o 7._o sect._n 7._o intend_v to_o go_v to_o dothan_n they_o shall_v take_v the_o way_n to_o samaria_n that_o intend_v or_o at_o least_o pretend_v to_o answer_v question_n they_o shall_v gird_v their_o logic_n to_o they_o and_o make_v syllogism_n and_o fall_v upon_o answer_v these_o be_v soul_n also_o among_o the_o prophet_n be_v the_o member_n of_o the_o assembly_n come_v to_o their_o new_a light_n too_o for_o to_o this_o day_n doubtless_o it_o be_v never_o know_v or_o hear_v that_o man_n shall_v frame_v argument_n and_o syllogism_n of_o their_o own_o and_o call_v their_o answer_n unto_o these_o answer_v to_o the_o question_n of_o another_o when_o they_o teach_v the_o late_a catechism_n of_o their_o present_a church_n and_o ask_v the_o child_n what_o be_v your_o name_n and_o who_o give_v you_o this_o name_n do_v they_o teach_v the_o child_n to_o answer_v first_o by_o frame_v syllogism_n out_o of_o or_o upon_o the_o question_n and_o then_o by_o answer_v these_o syllogism_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o question_n if_o they_o have_v mean_v fair_o and_o nothing_o but_o what_o be_v upright_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o man_n in_o address_v themselves_o to_o answer_v the_o query_n these_o be_v fair_o and_o direct_o propose_v why_o do_v they_o fetch_v about_o by_o the_o way_n of_o the_o fuller_n field_n by_o which_o rabshekah_n come_v against_o jerusalem_n 2._o jerusalem_n esa_n 36._o 2._o i_o mean_v by_o the_o way_n of_o syllogism_n and_o argument_n by_o which_o the_o truth_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v oppose_v by_o her_o adversary_n not_o the_o question_n of_o the_o friend_n of_o truth_n answer_v why_o do_v they_o not_o answer_v to_o the_o particular_n demand_v immediate_o and_o direct_o 7._o sect._n 7._o either_o by_o affirmation_n negation_n or_o distinction_n which_o be_v the_o way_n and_o method_n by_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n answer_v all_o the_o question_n propose_v to_o they_o which_o they_o think_v meet_v to_o answer_v or_o howsoever_o they_o never_o make_v syllogism_n call_v their_o answer_n to_o these_o answer_v to_o the_o question_n propose_v unto_o they_o by_o other_o certain_o these_o man_n will_v not_o have_v travel_v out_o of_o the_o king_n highway_n but_o to_o lie_v in_o wait_n to_o rob_v and_o steal_v from_o those_o who_o travel_v honest_o and_o peaceable_o in_o it_o there_o be_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n some_o clergie-classique_a fetch_n or_o reach_v in_o the_o projecture_n the_o man_n be_v better_a husband_n of_o their_o syllogism_n and_o logic_n then_o to_o pursue_v or_o hunt_v after_o truth_n or_o spiritual_a thing_n with_o they_o these_o they_o still_o take_v and_o come_v by_o with_o as_o much_o ease_n and_o expedition_n as_o jacob_n come_v by_o his_o venison_n which_o he_o fetch_v out_o of_o the_o stock_n 14._o stock_n gen._n 27._o 9_o 14._o therefore_o when_o they_o take_v their_o bo_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o their_o quiver_n when_o they_o come_v to_o syllogism_n and_o painful_a reason_n and_o debate_n it_o be_v a_o great_a sign_n they_o have_v some_o secular_a game_n or_o other_o in_o chase_n which_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v not_o so_o tame_a nor_o so_o easy_o bring_v to_o hand_n as_o the_o other_o but_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o i_o upon_o this_o occasion_n to_o do_v as_o these_o man_n frequent_o do_v in_o their_o preach_n i_o mean_v conjecture_n reader_n with_o thy_o leave_n i_o shall_v take_v the_o boldness_n to_o present_v thou_o with_o my_o notion_n upon_o the_o case_n these_o contraquerist_n prudent_o consider_v that_o in_o the_o query_n as_o they_o come_v from_o the_o author_n there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o either_o affirm_v or_o deny_v so_o that_o whatsoever_o the_o tenor_n or_o purport_n of_o they_o be_v they_o can_v not_o with_o any_o tolerable_a colour_n or_o pretext_n fasten_v any_o opinion_n either_o 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o negative_a or_o affirmative_a upon_o he_o that_o frame_v they_o wherewith_o to_o blast_v either_o the_o reputation_n of_o his_o person_n or_o his_o query_n therefore_o to_o blind_v vulgar_a eye_n and_o to_o set_v a_o face_n upon_o a_o backsidebusinesse_n they_o judge_v it_o of_o best_a comport_v with_o the_o classic_a cause_n presumptuous_o to_o conclude_v that_o whatsoever_o the_o querist_n question_n in_o the_o negative_a he_o hold_v and_o assert_n in_o the_o affirmative_a as_o on_o the_o contrary_a that_o whatsoever_o he_o queri_v in_o the_o affirmative_a he_o hold_v in_o the_o negative_a 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parish-church_n of_o another_o d._n be_v not_o these_o also_o the_o know_a principle_n of_o christianity_n o_o church_n or_o church_n of_o england_n be_v you_o true_a or_o be_v you_o false_a as_o you_o love_v the_o thing_n of_o your_o peace_n look_v out_o better_a oracle_n than_o such_o teacher_n as_o these_o to_o consult_v with_o about_o the_o principle_n of_o your_o christianity_n in_o their_o four_o argument_n as_o likewise_o in_o their_o answer_n to_o it_o they_o 34._o sect._n 34._o take_v no_o notice_n at_o all_o of_o what_o the_o querie_n honest_o desire_v to_o remind_v they_o viz._n of_o any_o die_v themselves_o for_o the_o maintenance_n and_o defence_n of_o their_o religion_n but_o only_o of_o put_v other_o to_o death_n for_o thâ—se_a end_n i_o hope_v they_o do_v not_o intimate_v hereby_o that_o their_o life_n be_v dear_a to_o they_o than_o their_o religion_n though_o other_o man_n life_n be_v not_o well_o but_o how_o do_v they_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v christian_a to_o 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reason_n must_v take_v place_n and_o be_v in_o force_n also_o but_o of_o how_o ill_o a_o compliance_n such_o a_o reason_n or_o assertion_n as_o this_o be_v with_o the_o truth_n will_v sufficient_o appear_v by_o these_o parallel_n abraham_n receive_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n a_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n 11._o faith_n rom._n 4._o 11._o i._o in_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o seal_n or_o that_o it_o may_v be_v a_o seal_n unto_o he_o and_o his_o posterity_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n but_o this_o end_n of_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n still_o take_v place_n i._n it_o be_v still_o necessary_a that_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n be_v seal_v unto_o man_n therefore_o circumcision_n or_o the_o law_n command_v circumcision_n be_v still_o in_o force_n take_v another_o god_n command_v the_o child_n of_o israel_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o make_v they_o fringe_n in_o the_o border_n of_o their_o garment_n 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estimate_v by_o some_o such_o rule_n as_o this_o that_o which_o be_v as_o apt_a or_o likely_a to_o corrupt_v the_o mind_n or_o judgement_n of_o man_n with_o the_o evil_a of_o the_o error_n have_v the_o same_o likelihood_n in_o it_o to_o produce_v the_o evil_a and_o that_o which_o have_v the_o great_a aptness_n in_o this_o kind_n have_v the_o great_a likelihood_n now_o that_o method_n or_o mean_n of_o corrupt_v the_o mind_n of_o man_n with_o error_n which_o be_v more_o plausible_a and_o tempt_a and_o more_o comply_v with_o the_o flesh_n be_v more_o apt_a and_o likely_a to_o produce_v the_o evil_a than_o another_o which_o be_v less_o plausible_a and_o tempt_a in_o this_o kind_n if_o so_o then_o for_o man_n to_o live_v as_o if_o there_o be_v 59_o sect._n 59_o no_o christ_n be_v more_o pernicious_a and_o likely_a to_o mischief_n the_o soul_n of_o other_o then_o to_o say_v or_o profess_v in_o word_n that_o there_o be_v no_o christ._n for_o first_o example_n be_v more_o insinuate_a and_o 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prison_n above_o ground_n and_o a_o prison_n under_o ground_n may_v seem_v very_o un-synonomous_a and_o as_o far_o distant_a one_o from_o the_o other_o as_o the_o east_n be_v from_o the_o west_n yet_o to_o ingenuous_a and_o free-spirited_n man_n there_o be_v no_o such_o great_a difference_n between_o they_o nay_o unto_o many_o disposition_n yea_o unto_o all_o man_n of_o solid_a understanding_n present_a imprisonment_n in_o the_o chamber_n of_o death_n be_v many_o way_n more_o desirable_a then_o perpetual_a imprisonment_n or_o for_o term_n of_o life_n under_o the_o hand_n of_o our_o common_a jailer_n especial_o upon_o those_o term_n of_o misery_n and_o extremity_n which_o the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o those_o suffer_v and_o endure_v who_o be_v imprison_v by_o man_n so_o that_o in_o case_n the_o expression_n in_o the_o query_n so_o oft_o quarrel_v have_v be_v conjunctive_a imprisonment_n and_o death_n and_o not_o dis-junctive_a as_o now_o it_o be_v imprisonment_n or_o death_n there_o have_v be_v no_o such_o capital_a injury_n or_o offence_n commit_v against_o the_o ordinance_n how_o much_o less_o the_o this_o junctive_a be_v every_o way_n as_o well_o in_o appearance_n as_o in_o truth_n and_o substance_n innocent_a but_o ear_n must_v be_v horn_n when_o lion_n will_n their_o fourteen_o answer_n come_v not_o â—eere_o their_o fourteen_o 60._o sect._n 60._o argument_n by_o sixteen_o foot_n at_o least_o their_o major_n in_o this_o argument_n be_v this_o none_o ought_v to_o urge_v a_o true_o faithful_a and_o conscientious_a 61._o sect._n 61._o minister_n to_o publish_v contrary_a to_o what_o he_o be_v persuade_v of_o nor_o to_o threaten_v he_o with_o death_n or_o imprisonment_n if_o he_o shall_v declare_v himself_o otherwise_o to_o this_o they_o be_v please_v to_o answer_n that_o this_o major_n be_v not_o universal_o true_a their_o reason_n for_o though_o no_o minister_n that_o be_v true_o faithful_a and_o conscientious_a may_v publish_v any_o thing_n when_o he_o â—â—_o persuade_v it_o be_v a_o error_n yet_o if_o any_o such_o minister_n have_v first_o publish_v any_o dangerous_a error_n to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n and_o the_o mischief_n of_o soul_n he_o may_v be_v just_o urge_v to_o make_v reparation_n for_o the_o evil_n which_o he_o have_v cause_v by_o publish_v the_o contrary_a truth_n and_o may_v if_o he_o shall_v refuse_v be_v threaten_v with_o imprisonment_n and_o even_o of_o death_n they_o that_o can_v reconcile_v this_o reason_n unto_o the_o cause_n which_o it_o undertake_v may_v do_v it_o if_o they_o please_v i_o confess_v i_o can_v for_o be_v there_o so_o much_o as_o a_o face_n or_o the_o light_a stricture_n of_o a_o appearance_n of_o any_o thing_n in_o it_o to_o prove_v that_o a_o true_o faithful_a and_o conscientious_a minister_n may_v be_v urge_v or_o threaten_v with_o imprisonment_n or_o death_n to_o publish_v contrary_a to_o what_o he_o be_v persuade_v of_o etc._n etc._n if_o he_o be_v persuade_v of_o truth_n in_o that_o which_o be_v contrary_a to_o what_o he_o have_v publish_v he_o shall_v not_o need_v be_v true_o faithful_a and_o conscientious_a to_o be_v urge_v much_o less_o threaten_v with_o imprisonment_n or_o death_n to_o make_v reparation_n by_o the_o publish_n of_o it_o his_o faithfulness_n and_o conscientiousnesse_n will_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n lead_v he_o hereunto_o if_o he_o be_v not_o persuade_v both_o the_o querâ—e_n and_o the_o argument_n be_v still_o where_o they_o be_v both_o un-answered_n whereas_o in_o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o answer_n they_o cite_v that_o of_o the_o apostle_n 61._o sect._n 61._o gal._n 5._o 12._o i_o will_v they_o be_v even_o cut_v off_o that_o trouble_n you_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o that_o shall_v still_o persist_v to_o publish_v dangerous_a error_n may_v be_v threaten_v with_o death_n i_o suppose_v they_o mean_v and_o cut_v off_o by_o death_n also_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o certain_o though_o they_o let_v paul_n
alone_o with_o his_o own_o word_n yet_o they_o exchange_v meaning_n with_o he_o for_o he_o do_v not_o here_o speak_v of_o cut_v off_o by_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o magistrate_n which_o be_v by_o death_n but_o by_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v by_o excommunication_n chrysostome_n with_o who_o calvin_n agree_v in_o his_o notion_n conceive_v that_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o expression_n of_o cut_v off_o allude_v to_o circumcision_n which_o be_v make_v by_o abscission_n and_o wish_v that_o as_o they_o distract_v the_o church_n by_o preach_v and_o urge_v the_o doctrine_n of_o circumcision_n or_o cut_v off_o so_o themselves_o shall_v be_v cut_v off_o now_o that_o cut_v off_o which_o be_v by_o circumcision_n be_v not_o to_o the_o death_n or_o destruction_n but_o to_o 62._o sect._n 62._o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o circumcise_a mr._n perkins_n call_v the_o passage_n in_o hand_n a_o imprecation_n or_o curse_n pronounce_v by_o paul_n upon_o the_o false_a apostle_n and_o move_v this_o question_n upon_o it_o whether_o we_o may_v not_o curse_v our_o enemy_n as_o paul_n do_v to_o which_o he_o answer_v negative_o no_o his_o reason_n for_o we_o have_v not_o the_o like_a spirit_n to_o discern_v the_o person_n of_o man_n what_o they_o be_v and_o our_o zeal_n for_o god_n glory_n be_v mix_v with_o many_o corrupt_a affection_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v suspect_v so_o that_o his_o judgement_n be_v not_o only_o that_o no_o argument_n can_v be_v draw_v from_o this_o scripture_n for_o the_o death_n or_o imprisonment_n of_o any_o teacher_n of_o error_n or_o troubler_n of_o church_n in_o that_o kind_n but_o not_o so_o much_o as_o for_o any_o imprecation_n or_o wish_v of_o evil_n against_o such_o luther_n interpretation_n of_o the_o place_n differ_v not_o much_o who_o expound_v the_o apostle_n malediction_n or_o imprecation_n as_o he_o call_v it_o against_o the_o disturber_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o anathema_n and_o make_v this_o to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o it_o that_o god_n will_v not_o guide_v or_o prosper_v either_o their_o doctrine_n or_o their_o do_n 12._o do_n rectè_fw-la igitur_fw-la facit_fw-la paulus_n quod_fw-la perturbatores_fw-la â—llos_fw-la maledicit_fw-la &_o pronunciat_fw-la sententiam_fw-la eos_fw-la esse_fw-la anathema_n cun_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la docent_fw-la &_o faciunt_fw-la quodque_fw-la imprecatur_fw-la eye_n ut_fw-la exâ—iâ—dantur_fw-la ex_fw-la bac_fw-la vitâ_fw-la &_o precipue_v ex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la deus_fw-la gubernet_fw-la &_o fortunet_n doctrinam_fw-la &_o omnes_fw-la actiones_fw-la eorum_fw-la luther_n ad_fw-la gal._n 5._o 12._o musculus_fw-la understand_v the_o place_n clear_o of_o excommunication_n i_o will_v they_o be_v cut_v off_o say_v he_o but_o from_o whence_o even_o from_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n into_o which_o they_o have_v infinuate_v themselves_o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v member_n of_o they_o whereas_o indeed_o they_o be_v pernicious_a pest_n they_o who_o be_v cut_v off_o be_v abalienate_v from_o all_o communion_n and_o fellowship_n therewith_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a he_o speak_v afterward_o of_o cut_v off_o by_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n but_o his_o text_n according_a to_o his_o own_o interpretation_n of_o it_o administer_v no_o ground_n at_o all_o unto_o he_o so_o to_o wish_v nor_o indeed_o do_v he_o wish_v any_o such_o cut_n off_o as_o this_o but_o upon_o this_o ground_n or_o supposition_n that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v no_o other_o mean_n whereby_o to_o be_v rid_v of_o those_o unworthy_a teacher_n and_o pastor_n who_o he_o judge_v meet_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o which_o yet_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v yea_o and_o might_n have_v if_o they_o do_v not_o willing_o suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v deprive_v of_o it_o and_o then_o they_o shall_v stand_v in_o no_o need_n at_o all_o of_o the_o strong_a hand_n of_o the_o magistrate_n for_o such_o a_o purpose_n whereas_o they_o add_v that_o christian_n in_o former_a age_n submit_v to_o 62._o sect._n 62._o suffer_v with_o profession_n that_o if_o they_o have_v be_v heretic_n or_o blasphemer_n they_o have_v deserve_o suffer_v and_o for_o proof_n hereof_o allege_v that_o of_o the_o apostle_n paul_n when_o he_o be_v accuse_v to_o have_v offend_v against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o the_o temple_n if_o i_o be_v a_o offender_n or_o have_v commit_v any_o thing_n worthy_a of_o death_n i_o refuse_v not_o to_o die_v act._n 25._o 8._o 11._o they_o here_o also_o commit_v that_o iniquity_n by_o which_o they_o still_o build_v 63_o sect._n 63_o their_o house_n of_o high_a presbytery_n i_o mean_v they_o misuse_v the_o good_a word_n of_o god_n for_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n in_o the_o passage_n they_o cite_v which_o so_o much_o as_o colour_n with_o that_o assertion_n which_o they_o argue_v from_o it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o apostle_n i._n e._n if_o indeed_o i_o do_v or_o do_v injustice_n or_o have_v commit_v any_o thing_n worthy_a of_o death_n i_o refuse_v not_o etc._n etc._n do_v any_o of_o the_o heretic_n or_o sectary_n now_o as_o these_o man_n be_v please_v to_o call_v all_o those_o who_o refuse_v eandem_fw-la insanire_fw-la insaniam_fw-la with_o they_o refuse_v to_o suffer_v or_o die_v upon_o such_o term_n as_o these_o let_v they_o produce_v any_o one_o man_n of_o that_o generation_n which_o they_o so_o avile_a and_o tread_v under_o their_o foot_n like_o clay_n and_o mire_n or_o stone_n in_o the_o street_n who_o ever_o refuse_v to_o suffer_v for_o injustice_n proportionable_o to_o his_o offence_n or_o to_o die_v have_v commit_v any_o thing_n worthy_a of_o death_n it_o may_v possible_o be_v that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v plead_v their_o innocency_n when_o matter_n of_o injustice_n have_v be_v lay_v to_o their_o charge_n and_o other_o have_v declare_v their_o judgement_n in_o opposition_n to_o some_o who_o will_v make_v what_o they_o please_v or_o what_o please_v not_o they_o matter_n worthy_a of_o death_n but_o in_o both_o these_o they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o go_v against_o that_o they_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n paul_n who_o deny_v that_o he_o have_v do_v any_o injustice_n or_o commit_v thing_n worthy_a of_o death_n as_o his_o malicious_a accuser_n have_v traduce_v and_o false_o charge_v he_o to_o have_v do_v o_o england_n when_o will_v thy_o teacher_n cease_v to_o pervert_v the_o straight_a way_n and_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n when_o shall_v it_o yet_o be_v their_o answer_n to_o their_o fifteen_o argument_n be_v somewhat_o faint_a 63._o sect._n 63._o and_o tender_a they_o speak_v here_o as_o if_o they_o care_v not_o much_o whether_o they_o speak_v or_o no_o yet_o they_o take_v courage_n to_o say_v that_o the_o public_a hold_v of_o some_o opinion_n may_v be_v so_o prejudicial_a to_o the_o public_a peace_n as_o may_v deserve_v imprisonment_n and_o yet_o not_o deserve_v excommunication_n etc._n etc._n but_o their_o strength_n be_v whole_o spend_v with_o bring_v forth_o the_o bare_a assertion_n that_o they_o have_v not_o leave_v wherewith_o to_o clothe_v or_o guard_v it_o with_o any_o proof_n and_o indeed_o a_o thousand_o such_o saying_n may_v more_o easy_o be_v assert_v than_o any_o one_o of_o they_o substantial_o prove_v i_o desire_v to_o know_v what_o opinion_n those_o be_v the_o public_a hold_v whereof_o may_v be_v so_o prejudicial_a to_o the_o public_a peace_n as_o to_o deserve_v punishment_n and_o yet_o not_o be_v so_o prejudicial_a either_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n or_o to_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o to_o the_o well_o be_v of_o that_o particular_a church_n which_o ought_v to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o they_o as_o to_o deserve_v excommunication_n i_o fear_v that_o the_o public_a peace_n be_v often_o 63._o sect._n 63._o prejudicial_a to_o the_o public_a hold_v forth_o of_o many_o truth_n than_o the_o public_a hold_v forth_o of_o any_o opinion_n whatsoever_o prejudicial_a unto_o that_o whereas_o they_o add_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o call_v they_o belove_v brethren_n that_o at_o corinth_n deny_v the_o resurrection_n but_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n that_o â—â—ld_v the_o truth_n except_o either_o they_o will_v say_v that_o they_o speak_v it_o by_o revelation_n or_o else_o give_v some_o either_o scripture_n or_o reason_n to_o prove_v it_o i_o trust_v they_o will_v give_v we_o leave_v to_o judge_v it_o apocryphal_a and_o to_o number_v it_o among_o the_o transgression_n of_o their_o pen._n that_o which_o follow_v be_v yet_o of_o a_o more_o ignoble_a calculation_n for_o they_o say_v neither_o be_v there_o any_o such_o in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n or_o christian_a church_n then_o that_o hold_v opinion_n of_o far_o worse_a consequence_n then_o very_a many_o or_o even_o then_o any_o of_o those_o error_n which_o the_o ordinance_n threaten_v with_o death_n but_o first_o why_o or_o in_o relation_n
it_o be_v not_o to_o show_v the_o magistrate_n duty_n may_v appear_v further_o by_o our_o saviour_n interpretation_n and_o make_v no_o application_n or_o show_v what_o man_n shall_v do_v here_o in_o spare_v any_o wicked_a man_n but_o show_v what_o god_n will_v do_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n as_o be_v manifest_a to_o any_o that_o will_v read_v christ_n interpretation_n of_o it_o it_o seem_v then_o notwithstanding_o some_o obscurity_n in_o the_o parable_n yet_o there_o be_v some_o light_n also_o in_o it_o for_o whatsoever_o make_v manifest_a be_v light_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o there_o be_v more_o obscurity_n in_o these_o few_o line_n of_o they_o then_o be_v in_o all_o the_o parable_n they_o speak_v of_o for_o they_o tell_v we_o twice_o over_o for_o fail_v of_o christ_n interpretation_n of_o the_o parable_n and_o yet_o deny_v that_o he_o make_v any_o application_n for_o my_o part_n i_o understand_v not_o how_o any_o man_n can_v make_v a_o interpretation_n of_o a_o parable_n without_o 75._o sect._n 75._o make_v some_o application_n or_o other_o if_o their_o meaning_n be_v that_o christ_n in_o his_o interpretation_n of_o it_o do_v not_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o magistrate_n or_o speak_v of_o his_o duty_n in_o spare_v any_o wicked_a man_n which_o they_o seem_v break_o to_o imply_v i_o answer_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a for_o the_o open_n or_o interpretation_n of_o a_o parable_n to_o interpret_v or_o apply_v every_o particularity_n contain_v in_o it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o in_o expressenesse_n of_o word_n it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o such_o and_o so_o many_o particular_n of_o it_o be_v interpret_v or_o apply_v by_o the_o understanding_n whereof_o other_o particular_n also_o and_o consequent_o the_o whole_a parable_n may_v be_v understand_v now_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o christ_n have_v so_o far_o interpret_v the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n and_o make_v application_n of_o so_o many_o of_o the_o particular_n in_o it_o that_o the_o residue_n of_o it_o may_v by_o the_o light_n of_o theâ—e_n be_v clear_o understand_v so_o that_o it_o no_o way_n follow_v that_o because_o christ_n do_v not_o apply_v the_o parable_n viz._n in_o expressenesse_n of_o term_n or_o totidem_fw-la verbâ—_n to_o the_o magistrate_n or_o show_v what_o he_o shall_v do_v here_o in_o spare_v wicked_a man_n that_o therefore_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o this_o behalf_n be_v not_o clear_o and_o with_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o the_o truth_n hold_v forth_o in_o the_o parable_n the_o former_a part_n of_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o argument_n under_o protection_n 75._o sect._n 75._o consist_v of_o the_o great_a part_n of_o their_o twenty_o page_n have_v be_v full_o answer_v in_o what_o have_v be_v reply_v to_o the_o latter_a from_o whence_o also_o it_o clear_o appear_v that_o the_o whole_a tenor_n and_o carriage_n of_o it_o lie_v quite_o beside_o the_o spirit_n drift_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o querie_n the_o scope_n of_o this_o be_v not_o to_o ask_v whether_o any_o man_n ought_v to_o neglect_v a_o duty_n for_o fear_n of_o any_o inconvenience_n one_o or_o more_o great_a or_o lesser_a that_o may_v possible_o attend_v the_o performance_n which_o be_v all_o that_o this_o part_n of_o the_o answer_n make_v at_o but_o whether_o such_o a_o act_n or_o practice_v as_o be_v there_o mention_v be_v not_o likely_a to_o to_o produce_v that_o inconvenience_n or_o evil_n for_o the_o prevention_n whereof_o the_o lord_n christ_n have_v declare_v himself_o against_o the_o practice_n in_o their_o nineteenth_o answer_n they_o do_v nothing_o less_o than_o rage_n rightdowne_a affirm_v first_o that_o the_o minor_a in_o their_o own_o argument_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o impudence_n of_o the_o querist_n with_o who_o any_o heretic_n or_o blasphemer_n may_v pass_v for_o a_o conscientious_a man_n what_o gentleman_n and_o give_v such_o course_n language_n christian_n and_o revile_v at_o this_o rate_n man_n of_o conscience_n and_o call_v that_o my_o impudence_n which_o they_o inward_o judge_v to_o be_v their_o own_o commendation_n 75._o sect._n 75._o for_o certain_o they_o judge_v all_o these_o argument_n and_o syllogism_n to_o be_v their_o praise_n and_o honour_n and_o according_o in_o their_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n they_o cunning_o and_o very_o effectual_o crave_v of_o he_o that_o which_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v their_o due_n in_o this_o kind_n by_o render_v sen._n rogâ—â—_n &_o quidem_fw-la eâ—fiâ—aâ—â—sâ—â—â—_n qui_fw-la râ—ddâ—â—_n râ—gâ—â—â—â—_n â—_z sen._n reason_n upon_o which_o they_o may_v crave_v it_o viz._n the_o pain_n they_o take_v in_o the_o compose_n of_o they_o and_o the_o hope_v they_o have_v of_o give_v ease_n and_o satisfaction_n by_o they_o to_o their_o reader_n but_o first_o what_o manner_n of_o monstrous_a beast_n be_v this_o unhappy_a minor_a which_o thus_o affright_v these_o man_n out_o of_o their_o christian_a wit_n alas_o it_o be_v but_o this_o innocent_a lamb_n whether_o i_o or_o they_o the_o ordinance_n in_o question_n be_v apparent_o bend_v against_o the_o face_n if_o not_o of_o the_o most_o yet_o of_o a_o very_a considerable_a part_n of_o the_o best_a and_o most_o conscientious_a man_n among_o we_o well_o it_o seem_v this_o lamb_n must_v make_v a_o sacrifice_n but_o how_o or_o with_o what_o knife_n do_v the_o priest_n slay_v it_o with_o this_o it_o be_v false_a the_o ordinance_n be_v only_o bend_v against_o heretic_n and_o blasphemer_n and_o other_o erroneous_a spirit_n who_o will_v needs_o notwithstanding_o any_o admonition_n publish_v doctrine_n that_o be_v hurtful_a to_o man_n soul_n and_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o state_n but_o be_v not_o the_o lamb_n yet_o alive_a for_o all_o this_o stroke_n give_v unto_o it_o or_o be_v not_o the_o bare_a affirmation_n of_o the_o minor_a thus_o strike_v at_o as_o authoritative_a and_o authentic_a as_o the_o bare_a negation_n of_o the_o answer_n if_o the_o anti-querists_a know_v any_o such_o difference_n 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find_v they_o but_o they_o who_o publish_v they_o be_v never_o the_o more_o instrument_n of_o evil_a in_o like_a manner_n if_o there_o be_v any_o agreement_n or_o peace_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n in_o any_o thing_n which_o be_v evil_a or_o erroneous_a they_o who_o shall_v publish_v doctrine_n which_o may_v probable_o occasion_v the_o disturbance_n of_o such_o peace_n especial_o as_o the_o degree_n of_o the_o evil_a and_o nature_n of_o the_o error_n may_v be_v be_v not_o therefore_o instrument_n of_o evil_a but_o miserable_a be_v the_o condition_n of_o that_o church_n or_o state_n which_o shall_v punish_v man_n not_o only_o true_o conscientious_a but_o instrument_n also_o of_o good_a unto_o they_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o instrument_n of_o evil_a second_o i_o desire_v to_o engage_v the_o conscience_n of_o these_o man_n to_o 77._o sect._n 77._o answer_v i_o to_o these_o four_o question_n first_o whether_o they_o do_v
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face_n of_o all_o these_o man_n themselves_o grant_v in_o terminis_fw-la that_o it_o be_v bend_v against_o such_o who_o in_o their_o sense_n for_o so_o they_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v shall_v publish_v doctrine_n that_o be_v hurtful_a to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o state_n yea_o they_o grant_v by_o way_n of_o a_o clear_a supposition_n that_o there_o be_v of_o 78_o sect._n 78_o these_o who_o be_v conscientious_a if_o they_o shall_v not_o their_o own_o conscience_n will_v not_o bear_v it_o at_o their_o hand_n only_o they_o deny_v that_o the_o ordinance_n be_v bend_v against_o these_o man_n as_o they_o be_v conscientious_a do_v ever_o the_o dragon_n or_o the_o beast_n i_o mean_v rome_n either_o pagan_a or_o antichristian_a bend_v their_o bloody_a edict_n or_o persecution_n against_o the_o saint_n the_o most_o conscientious_a man_n among_o they_o as_o they_o be_v conscientious_a or_o in_o any_o other_o respect_n or_o consideration_n whatsoever_o then_o as_o in_o their_o sense_n instrument_n of_o evil_a the_o most_o ungodly_a persecute_v wretch_n that_o ever_o breathe_v under_o these_o heaven_n do_v never_o persecute_v or_o speak_v evil_a of_o a_o saint_n as_o a_o godly_a or_o conscientious_a man_n if_o themselves_o be_v severe_o punish_v and_o their_o live_n and_o estate_n take_v from_o they_o as_o false_a accuser_n of_o their_o brethren_n will_v it_o be_v any_o ease_n or_o gratification_n to_o they_o that_o they_o be_v favour_v and_o not_o proceed_v against_o as_o presbyterian_o or_o conscientious_a man_n but_o if_o such_o distinction_n as_o these_o be_v their_o bottom_n ground_n and_o reason_n to_o prove_v either_o major_n or_o minor_n false_a and_o to_o make_v outcry_n against_o they_o as_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o impudence_n of_o the_o querist_n etc._n etc._n who_o can_v refrain_v lamentation_n and_o tear_n over_o the_o soul_n of_o those_o who_o dependence_n be_v for_o the_o great_a thing_n of_o life_n and_o immortality_n on_o such_o man_n whereas_o they_o charge_v the_o querist_n as_o a_o man_n with_o who_o any_o heretic_n or_o blasphemer_n may_v pass_v for_o a_o conscientious_a man_n i_o pass_v by_o it_o as_o judge_v that_o no_o man_n will_v think_v it_o worth_a the_o take_n up_o whereas_o they_o engage_v themselves_o with_o so_o much_o diligence_n to_o 78._o sect._n 78._o prove_v that_o law_n must_v be_v bend_v against_o instrument_n of_o evil_a notwithstanding_o any_o conscience_n they_o pretend_v to_o have_v take_v knowledge_n reader_n that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o stale_a device_n to_o delude_v simple_a and_o inconsider_a man_n usual_o practise_v by_o those_o who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o grapple_v with_o a_o adversary_n in_o the_o point_n in_o question_n between_o they_o hunt_v counter_a and_o follow_v with_o great_a eagerness_n and_o openness_n of_o mouth_n a_o false_a send_v lay_v on_o proof_n upon_o proof_n reason_n upon_o reason_n to_o prove_v something_o which_o it_o may_v be_v have_v some_o affinity_n at_o least_o in_o a_o sound_n of_o word_n with_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n but_o be_v never_o deny_v nor_o intend_v to_o be_v deny_v by_o their_o opposer_n nor_o indeed_o be_v any_o matter_n of_o controversy_n between_o any_o that_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o may_v cover_v their_o weakness_n and_o insufficiency_n to_o deal_v with_o their_o adversary_n from_o weak_a and_o injudicious_a man_n and_o seem_v to_o carry_v the_o day_n before_o they_o with_o a_o strong_a hand_n the_o counter-querists_a 79_o sect._n 79_o have_v take_v this_o sanctuary_n once_o again_o and_o the_o three_o time_n also_o in_o this_o their_o vindication_n and_o they_o do_v it_o palpable_o in_o this_o place_n for_o do_v the_o querist_n ever_o deny_v or_o intimate_v the_o least_o inclination_n in_o he_o towards_o a_o denial_n but_o that_o law_n ought_v to_o be_v bend_v against_o instrument_n of_o evil_a notwithstanding_o any_o conscience_n they_o pretend_v to_o have_v therefore_o the_o labour_n which_o they_o bestow_v in_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o they_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v convert_v some_o other_o way_n and_o particular_o in_o seek_v out_o a_o rock_n to_o build_v their_o high-presbytery_n upon_o which_o all_o this_o while_n stand_v upon_o sandy_a and_o loose_a foundation_n that_o which_o they_o yet_o add_v in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o answer_n concern_v geneva_n have_v law_n against_o heretic_n etc._n etc._n neither_o reach_v the_o demand_n of_o the_o querie_n nor_o yet_o the_o import_n of_o their_o own_o argument_n pretend_v legitimacy_n of_o descent_n from_o it_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n for_o a_o state_n to_o have_v law_n against_o heretic_n another_o by_o law_n or_o ordinance_n to_o strike_v at_o great_a and_o very_o considerable_a number_n of_o the_o best_a and_o most_o conscientious_a man_n among_o they_o if_o those_o law_n against_o heretic_n and_o false_a teacher_n in_o the_o state_n of_o geneva_n of_o which_o they_o speak_v be_v compare_v with_o the_o ordinance_n whereof_o we_o both_o speak_v i_o believe_v they_o will_v be_v so_o far_o from_o justify_v it_o that_o it_o will_v rather_o justify_v they_o by_o be_v more_o unrighteous_a and_o unreasonable_a than_o they_o in_o their_o twenty_o answer_n they_o sing_v over_o their_o old_a note_n affirm_v that_o the_o ordinance_n be_v of_o no_o such_o bloody_a consequence_n to_o true_o 79._o sect._n 79._o pious_a and_o conscientious_a â—en_n as_o any_o thing_n which_o the_o bishop_n do_v attempt_v against_o the_o godly_a who_o they_o hate_a as_o they_o presume_v they_o have_v show_v but_o where_o or_o to_o who_o or_o by_o what_o light_n they_o have_v show_v it_o i_o be_o yet_o to_o query_n whereas_o they_o add_v in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o answer_n that_o the_o bishop_n be_v cast_v out_o for_o their_o lukewarmnesse_n do_v they_o mean_v for_o their_o lukewarmnesse_n in_o attempt_v the_o sorrow_n trouble_n molestation_n of_o conscientious_a and_o pious_a man_n or_o in_o procure_v ordinance_n and_o law_n for_o the_o support_n and_o strengthen_n of_o their_o kingdom_n doubtless_o their_o zeal_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v very_o great_a though_o alexander_n may_v conquer_v beyond_o the_o line_n of_o philip_n victory_n and_o i_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v more_o their_o zeal_n in_o this_o kind_n than_o any_o lukewarmnesse_n that_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o cast_v out_o and_o to_o join_v with_o our_o antagonist_n in_o their_o admonition_n let_v other_o take_v heed_n of_o the_o like_a 80._o sect._n 80._o we_o shall_v light_o pass_v by_o their_o 21_o answer_n as_o contain_v little_a 80._o sect._n 80._o in_o it_o but_o this_o bare_a assertion_n that_o the_o ordinance_n in_o the_o word_n or_o intent_n of_o it_o give_v unto_o wicked_a man_n no_o advantage_n or_o opportunity_n to_o accuse_v the_o best_a minister_n of_o such_o thing_n which_o may_v touch_v their_o life_n or_o bring_v much_o trouble_n unto_o they_o but_o only_a give_v advantage_n to_o the_o best_a man_n to_o be_v rid_v of_o the_o worst_a minister_n with_o what_o conscience_n they_o speak_v thus_o i_o refer_v to_o themselves_o and_o their_o own_o conscience_n with_o what_o truth_n i_o refer_v to_o all_o unpartial_a consider_v man_n to_o judge_v be_v the_o minister_n who_o walk_v in_o the_o congregationall_a way_n the_o worst_a of_o minister_n for_o my_o part_n i_o hearty_o and_o as_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o all-knowing_a god_n wish_v they_o be_v and_o that_o all_o those_o who_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a judgement_n to_o they_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o their_o grace_n knowledge_n and_o goodness_n in_o every_o kind_a double_a and_o treble_v upon_o they_o in_o their_o 22_o and_o 23_o answer_n p._n 24._o they_o tell_v we_o in_o effect_n 81._o sect._n 81._o what_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o parliament_n can_v and_o what_o their_o justice_n and_o care_n will_v no_o doubt_n do_v for_o the_o undo_n of_o all_o the_o ordinance_n intend_v to_o do_v for_o in_o