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A51624 A Review of Mr. M.H.'s new notion of schism, and the vindication of it Murrey, Robert, fl. 1692-1715. 1692 (1692) Wing M3105; ESTC R5709 75,948 74

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w._n we_o have_v a_o catalogue_n of_o our_o english_a bishop_n so_o that_o we_o can_v name_v they_o as_o they_o succeed_v so_o far_o as_o we_o have_v history_n to_o inform_v we_o which_o be_v for_o many_o century_n and_o as_o we_o find_v the_o succession_n regular_n where_o we_o have_v a_o clear_a account_n so_o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o doubt_v of_o the_o like_a care_n in_o former_a age_n which_o be_v satisfaction_n enough_o to_o we_o that_o our_o present_a ministry_n be_v regular_o derive_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o he_o that_o shall_v assert_v the_o contrary_a so_o as_o to_o make_v we_o doubt_v of_o it_o must_v bring_v proof_n from_o good_a author_n that_o the_o succession_n be_v interrupt_v or_o else_o he_o will_v be_v but_o a_o feeble_a exposer_n of_o our_o principle_n it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o say_v we_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o we_o have_v any_o true_a ministry_n or_o ordinance_n p._n 23._o we_o rely_v upon_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n and_o the_o care_n 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their_o canonist_n general_o declare_v that_o the_o pope_n himself_o can_v empower_v any_o presbyter_n to_o ordain_v so_o much_o as_o a_o deacon_n a_o abbot_n who_o have_v jus_fw-la mitrae_fw-la &_o bacu●…_n a_o cardinal_n or_o a_o ordinary_a presbyter_n by_o commission_n from_o the_o pope_n may_v confer_v the_o lesser_a order_n but_o not_o the_o great_a or_o those_o which_o be_v call_v sacred_a viz._n those_o of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n nay_o even_o as_o to_o the_o lesser_a thomas_n aquinas_n joh._n major_n and_o paludanus_n affirm_v that_o it_o be_v safe_a to_o receive_v the_o order_n of_o sub-deacon_n from_o another_o than_o from_o such_o a_o privilege_a presbyter_n and_o although_o anguianus_n and_o some_o few_o more_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o pope_n may_v empower_v a_o presbyter_n to_o confer_v the_o high_a order_n yet_o it_o never_o be_v the_o allow_a practice_n of_o that_o church_n and_o i_o challenge_v he_o to_o produce_v so_o much_o as_o one_o instance_n of_o any_o abb_n t_o that_o be_v no_o bishop_n who_o ever_o consecrate_a a_o bishop_n as_o for_o subdeacon_n and_o such_o people_n who_o be_v sometime_o ordain●…d_v by_o abbot_n the_o gentleman_n know_v well_o enough_o we_o have_v no_o occasion_n for_o they_o in_o england_n and_o therefore_o the_o succession_n of_o our_o bishop_n may_v be_v just_a and_o regular_a notwithstanding_o this_o first_o case_n as_o to_o the_o second_o viz._n whether_o this_o line_n of_o ordina_fw-la ion_n may_v be_v continue_v in_o a_o schismatical_a church_n we_o answer_v one_a that_o such_o be_v the_o care_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n so_o great_a a_o regard_n they_o have_v to_o a_o right_a succ●…ssion_n that_o they_o who_o think_v the_o ordination_n of_o certain_a heretic_n void_a such_o as_o the_o pa●…lianists_n and_o montanist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n decree_v they_o to_o be_v ordain_v by_o a_o catholic_n bishop_n and_o it_o be_v likewise_o determine_v by_o the_o first_o council_n of_o constantinople_n concern_v the_o ordination_n make_v by_o maximus_n cymicus_n that_o they_o be_v all_o null_a they_o neither_o allow_v he_o to_o be_v a_o bishop_n not_o those_o ordain_v by_o he_o to_o enjoy_v any_o function_n among_o the_o clergy_n and_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n cxix_o b●●n_n t●m_fw-la 9_o p._n 2●4_n p●●tin_n d●_n v●_n pont._n p._n 22.4_o contra_fw-la ●●ephanum_fw-la iii_o al●s_n iv_o mabill_n in_o ordi●_n rom._n com._n p._n cxix_o particular_o those_o ordain_v by_o constantine_n the_o lay-invade_a of_o the_o papal_a chair_n be_v by_o a_o council_n under_o stephen_n the_o three_o or_o four_o to_o return_v to_o their_o former_a order_n unless_o they_o be_v in_o great_a esteem_n with_o the_o people_n and_o in_o that_o case_n they_o be_v to_o be_v re-ordained_a by_o the_o church_n and_o for_o fear_n of_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o a_o future_a schism_n it_o be_v further_o decree_v that_o none_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v promote_v to_o any_o high_a degree_n by_o these_o and_o many_o other_o instance_n it_o be_v plain_a what_o care_n the_o church_n have_v take_v to_o re-ordain_a or_o utter_o silence_v those_o who_o order_n they_o think_v void_a and_o lest_o any_o such_o person_n shall_v creep_v into_o strange_a place_n and_o there_o invade_v that_o office_n to_o which_o they_o have_v no_o right_n no_o man_n either_o of_o the_o clergy_n or_o laity_n 51._o ap._n 〈◊〉_d 12._o con_v 〈◊〉_d 30_o con_v 〈◊〉_d c._n 33._o 〈…〉_o c._o 〈◊〉_d c._n 7._o con_v 〈◊〉_d c._n 12._o con_v elizbe●●_n c._n 51._o be_v to_o hold_v communion_n with_o they_o under_o pain_n of_o incur_v the_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n no_o clergy_n man_n be_v to_o go_v abroad_o without_o commendatory_a letter_n no_o bishop_n to_o be_v ordain_v without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o his_o metropolitan_a and_o the_o neighbour_a bishop_n no_o heretic_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o order_n and_o if_o ordain_v to_o be_v depose_v no_o man_n to_o ordain_v in_o another_o province_n by_o which_o and_o several_a other_o canon_n it_o become_v extreme_o difficult_a for_o any_o such_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n who_o order_n they_o think_v void_a to_o make_v any_o considerable_a intercision_n in_o the_o line_n of_o succession_n but_o i_o can_v see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o line_n of_o ordination_n may_v not_o pass_v through_o a_o schismatical_a church_n for_o although_o by_o schism_n people_n be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o while_o they_o continue_v so_o not_o enjoy_v the_o benefit_n either_o of_o ordination_n or_o sacrament_n yet_o to_o say_v that_o ●●●h_n be_v absolute_o destroy_v and_o nullify_v so_o that_o a_o ●●●●…matick_a l●●●_n the_o character_n and_o can_v neither_o be_v a_o christian_a 〈…〉_o i._n e._n not_o the_o subject_a of_o apostolical_a power_n till_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d ●●●_o baptize_v and_o ordain_v be_v a_o assertion_n beyond_o all_o that_o i_o c●●●…d_v ever_o yet_o meet_v with_o the_o
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n vid._n dodw._n in_o irenae_n dis_n 1._o sect._n xvii_o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o subordinate_a presbyter_n to_o do_v the_o same_o thing_n by_o the_o bishop_n order_n in_o other_o congregation_n within_o his_o diocese_n and_o that_o there_o be_v more_o congregation_n than_o one_o under_o the_o bishop_n of_o smyrna_n be_v evident_a from_o that_o pass●…ge_n of_o ignatius_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o they_o smyrn_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ig._n ad_fw-la smyrn_n let_v no_o man_n perform_v any_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o public_a assembly_n without_o the_o bishop_n that_o eucharist_n be_v to_o be_v think_v valid_a which_o be_v either_o under_o he_o or_o at_o least_o which_o he_o allow_v what_o have_v he_o to_o do_v to_o allow_v the_o eucharist_n in_o congregation_n independent_a upon_o he_o and_o to_o talk_v of_o give_v allowance_n to_o himself_o in_o his_o own_o be_v to_o great_a a_o blunder_n for_o ignatius_n to_o be_v charge_v with_o so_o that_o all_o the_o distinction_n here_o make_v be_v betwixt_o a_o congregation_n under_o the_o bishop_n viz._n that_o where_o he_o be_v personal_o present_a and_o another_o congregation_n assemble_v by_o his_o permission_n and_o allowance_n and_o must_v consequent_o imply_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n there_o be_v several_a congregation_n under_o one_o bishop_n what_o relate_v to_o servant_n be_v nothing_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o ignatius_n whatever_o it_o be_v in_o our_o author_n head_n nor_o be_v the_o second_o alligation_n more_o regular_a or_o just_a than_o the_o former_a antistitis_fw-la manu_fw-la in_o tertullian_n for_o thence_o it_o come_v original_o by_o way_n of_o mr._n baxter_n to_o our_o author_n refer_v not_o to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n 3._o aquam_fw-la adituri_fw-la ibidem_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o aliquanto_fw-la prius_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sub_fw-la antistit●…_n manu_fw-la contestamur_fw-la nos_fw-la renunciare_fw-la diaibolo_fw-it etc._n etc._n eucharistiae_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la tempore_fw-la victus_fw-la &_o omnibus_fw-la &_o mandatum_fw-la a_o domino_fw-la etiam_fw-la antelucanis_fw-la caetizbus_fw-la nec_fw-la de_fw-la aliorum_fw-la manu_fw-la quam_fw-la praesidentium_fw-la sumimus_fw-la tert._n de_fw-fr cor._n milit._n c._n 3._o but_o to_o the_o form_n of_o renounce_v the_o devil_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v preparatory_a to_o baptism_n and_o the_o person_n to_o be_v baptise_a do_v it_o sub_fw-la antistitis_fw-la manu_fw-la for_o ex_fw-la as_o this_o man_n quote_v it_o will_v have_v make_v it_o nonsense_n tertullian_n do_v indeed_o speak_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n not_o to_o be_v receive_v nisi_fw-la de_fw-la praesidentium_fw-la manu_fw-la but_o this_o will_v do_v our_o author_n no_o service_n the_o word_n praesidentium_fw-la include_v the_o bench_n of_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n in_o cathedra_fw-la vii_o vid._n pear_n vind._n ignat._n p._n 2._o c._n 13._o assert_v 2._o dod._n in_o iren._n dis_n 1._o sect._n vii_o nor_o will_v the_o passage_n out_o of_o irenaeus_n which_o he_o so_o hasty_o misapply_v if_o full_o cite_v and_o understand_v afford_v any_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n presbyter_n in_o that_o father_n oftentimes_o denote_v the_o age_n rather_o than_o the_o office_n of_o those_o person_n mean_v by_o it_o as_o divers_z learned_a man_n have_v already_o observe_v and_o in_o that_o sense_n not_o only_a presbyter_n but_o likewise_o bishop_n deacon_n and_o layman_n may_v be_v comprehend_v under_o that_o title_n and_o according_o irenaeus_n distinguish_v by_o divers_a character_n tell_v they_o what_o sort_n of_o elder_n they_o be_v to_o hearken_v to_o 43_o qua_fw-la propter_fw-la eye_n qui_fw-la in_o eccles_n sunt_fw-la pres_n obaudire_fw-la oportet_fw-la hiis_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n sicut_fw-la ostendimus_fw-la qui_fw-la cum_fw-la episc_n successione_n charisma_n veritatis_fw-la certum_fw-la secundum_fw-la placitum_fw-la patris_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la iren._n l._n 4._o c._n 4_o 3._o iren._n l._n 4._o c._n 43_o viz._n first_o eye_n qui_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sunt_fw-la those_o who_o be_v within_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n second_o hiis_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n etc._n etc._n those_o who_o have_v the_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o who_o together_o with_o the_o succession_n in_o their_o episcopal_a charge_n do_v receive_v the_o sure_a gift_n of_o truth_n according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o father_n whence_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o irenaeus_n in_o this_o place_n mean_v bishop_n only_o when_o he_o talk_v of_o the_o apostle_n successor_n and_o therefore_o our_o author_n inference_n in_o behalf_n of_o presbyter_n have_v their_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n be_v out_o of_o door_n irenaeus_n reckon_v up_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n in_o order_n as_o they_o succeed_v to_o eleutherius_fw-la then_o bishop_n who_o be_v the_o twelve_o from_o the_o apostle_n conclude_v hac_fw-la ordina●…ione_n &_o successione_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o ordination_n and_o succession_n that_o tradition_n which_o be_v in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o apostl●…s_n and_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o truth_n be_v hand_v down_o to_o we_o from_o which_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o succession_n in_o their_o day_n be_v more_o than_o bare_a conformity_n to_o the_o apostle_n model_n in_o government_n and_o worship_n for_o they_o succee_v the_o apostle_n first_o in_o power_n and_o authority_n so_o irenaeus_n quibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsas_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la committebant_fw-la quos_fw-la &_o successores_fw-la relinquebant_fw-la suum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la locum_fw-la magisterii_fw-la tradentes_fw-la second_o in_o place_n so_o linus_n be_v constitute_v the_o successor_n of_o st._n peter_n and_o st._n paul_n at_o rome_n and_o irenaeus_n tell_v we_o further_o that_o they_o make_v he_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o if_o his_o successor_n afterward_o mention_v keep_v up_o to_o the_o apostle_n model_n they_o must_v likewise_o derive_v their_o office_n as_o he_o do_v from_o person_n invest_v w●…th_v the_o same_o character_n and_o consequent_o as_o linus_n be_v ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n who_o have_v that_o episcopal_a authority_n in_o themselves_o which_o they_o confer_v upon_o he_o so_o the_o rest_n down_o to_o eleutherius_fw-la must_v be_v ordain_v by_o bishop_n and_o if_o so_o let_v our_o author_n consider_v with_o himself_o whether_o his_o notion_n or_o we_o be_v near_a in_o all_o point_n to_o the_o sense_n of_o those_o time_n when_o i_o consider_v how_o nice_a and_o strict_a this_o gentleman_n be_v in_o the_o notion_n of_o succession_n p._n 19_o 20_o that_o he_o can_v not_o allow_v two_o bishop_n to_o succeed_v one_o apostle_n nor_o one_o to_o succeed_v two_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v that_o in_o the_o write_n of_o 16_o page_n his_o head_n shall_v grow_v so_o loose_a as_o to_o make_v it_o no_o more_o than_o conformity_n to_o the_o apostle_n model_n in_o government_n and_o worship_n sure_o if_o this_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n as_o the_o gentleman_n affirm_v one_o bishop_n may_v succeed_v two_o apostle_n or_o one_o apostle_n be_v succeed_v by_o twenty_o bishop_n without_o any_o such_o absurdity_n or_o blunder_n as_o our_o author_n cry_v out_o against_o in_o the_o forequote_v page_n we_o all_o grant_v that_o for_o person_n wilful_o to_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o such_o particular_a church_n as_o be_v frame_v according_a to_o scripture_n rule_n and_o impose_v no_o new_a or_o needless_a term_n be_v to_o act_n schismatical_o because_o such_o wilful_a separation_n when_o n●…_n cause_n be_v give_v can_v be_v without_o breach_n of_o charity_n with_o our_o fellow_n christian_n page_n 37._o yes_o it_o may_v through_o the_o prejudices_fw-la of_o education_n or_o for_o want_n of_o understanding_n people_n may_v take_v that_o to_o be_v new_a which_o be_v very_o old_a and_o that_o which_o be_v very_o decent_a and_o fit_a to_o be_v impose_v to_o be_v altogether_o needless_a and_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o particular_a church_n frame_v according_a to_o scripture_n rule_n when_o pure_o out_o of_o mistake_n they_o think_v they_o otherwise_o they_o may_v be_v lead_v by_o interest_n or_o win_v over_o by_o persuasion_n to_o a_o new_a communion_n and_o yet_o have_v no_o hard_a thought_n of_o that_o church_n or_o its_o member_n which_o they_o leave_v i_o can_v believe_v that_o every_o dissenter_n at_o his_o first_o go_v off_o from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v immediate_o hate_v we_o i_o find_v several_a of_o they_o very_o kind_a a●…d_n affable_a person_n and_o yet_o if_o our_o author_n have_v grant_v right_o all_o their_o charity_n though_o a_o very_a good_a and_o commendable_a thing_n can_v excuse_v they_o from_o the_o gild_n of_o act_v schismatical_o and_o because_o our_o author_n have_v grant_v this_o i_o shall_v grant_v likewise_o that_o schism_n be_v frequent_o the_o effect_n of_o uncharitableness_n which_o perhaps_o be_v all_o that_o honest_a mr._n h._n mean_v when_o he_o call_v d_o it_o formalis_fw-la ratio_fw-la people_z