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A19252 Worke, more vvorke, and a little more work for a masse-priest Reviewed and augmented by the authour. VVith an epistle of an vnknowne priest remaining in London, sent to the authour, excepting against fiue points therein. With the authours answere thereunto: returned vnto the priest within twelue dayes after the receipt of the priests exceptions. ...; More worke for a Mase-priest Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632.; Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632. Worke for a Masse-priest.; Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632. Yet more worke for a masse-priest. 1628 (1628) STC 5665; ESTC S117166 110,840 166

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