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the_o whole_a man_n it_o be_v another_o exception_n against_o the_o prelate_n that_o he_o assume_v the_o power_n of_o church-government_n and_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n over_o the_o whole_a diocese_n which_o be_v much_o more_o than_o he_o can_v discharge_v how_o will_v master_n coleman_n avoid_v the_o involve_v the_o parliament_n into_o prelatical_a guiltiness_n by_o his_o principle_n which_o we_o avoid_v by_o we_o 2_o the_o prelate_n seek_v great_a thing_n for_o themselves_o rather_o than_o to_o purge_v the_o church_n of_o scandal_n what_o other_o thing_n be_v it_o when_o master_n coleman_n in_o his_o three_o rule_n instead_o of_o exhort_v to_o the_o purge_v the_o church_n call_v only_o for_o learning_n and_o competency_n and_o tell_v it_o out_o that_o this_o will_v get_v we_o a_o able_a ministry_n and_o procure_v we_o honour_n enough_o master_n hussey_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o myself_o tell_v i_o that_o our_o attend_n on_o read_v exhortation_n and_o doctrine_n without_o 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government_n so_o their_o vote_n do_v commit_v that_o government_n to_o pastor_n and_o roll_a elder_n joint_o i_o will_v not_o here_o repeat_v the_o particular_n wherein_o i_o show_v in_o my_o nihil_fw-la respondes_fw-la that_o mr._n coleman_n have_v abuse_v the_o honourable_a house_n of_o parliament_n unto_o which_o particular_n he_o have_v answer_v as_o good_a as_o nothing_o the_o honourable_a house_n in_o their_o wisdom_n will_v soon_o observe_v whether_o such_o man_n who_o avouâ—hed_a tenant_n be_v so_o flat_o repugnant_a to_o the_o parliamentary_a vote_n and_o ordinance_n be_v like_a to_o be_v good_a pleader_n for_o christian_a magistracy_n chap._n vi_o master_n coleman_n wrong_v of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n master_n coleman_n end_v his_o maledicis_fw-la with_o a_o resentment_n of_o accusation_n charge_v upon_o he_o by_o a_o stranger_n a_o commissioner_n from_o another_o church_n the_o lot_n of_o stranger_n be_v very_o hard_a if_o when_o they_o be_v false_o accuse_v to_o 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misrepresentation_n of_o our_o way_n but_o by_o most_o groundless_a aspersion_n and_o most_o uncharitable_a and_o unjust_a calumny_n i_o be_o sure_a i_o be_o not_o so_o much_o a_o stranger_n to_o his_o doctrine_n as_o he_o be_v to_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n of_o which_o notwithstanding_o he_o bold_o speak_v his_o pleasure_n in_o divers_a particular_n which_o he_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o make_v good_a first_o he_o have_v asperse_v that_o church_n in_o the_o point_n of_o promiscuous_a communicate_v this_o i_o confute_v in_o my_o nihil_fw-la respondes_fw-la and_o tell_v he_o both_o of_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o practice_n of_o conscientious_a minister_n to_o the_o contrary_a now_o what_o repli_v he_o first_o this_o refine_v work_n i_o think_v be_v not_o one_o year_n old_a in_o scotland_n or_o much_o more_o i_o be_v late_o inform_v that_o in_o edinbrugh_n it_o be_v begin_v whether_o anywhere_o else_o i_o know_v not_o maledicis_fw-la pag._n 20._o be_v not_o these_o now_o good_a ground_n of_o censure_v and_o asperse_v a_o reform_a church_n who_o name_n have_v be_v as_o precious_a ointment_n among_o other_o church_n abroad_o i_o think_v i_o be_v inform_v whether_o it_o be_v otherwise_o i_o know_v not_o he_o will_v sit_v in_o cornhill_n and_o tell_v the_o world_n what_o he_o imagine_v or_o hear_v of_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n and_o that_o forsooth_o must_v be_v take_v for_o a_o truth_n yet_o there_o be_v both_o rule_n and_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n for_o debar_v ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n from_o the_o sacrament_n before_o he_o be_v bear_v though_o all_o be_v put_v out_o of_o course_n under_o the_o prelate_n second_o say_v the_o reverend_a brother_n it_o be_v not_o a_o very_a effectual_a sin-censuring_a and_o church-refine_a government_n under_o which_o after_o foâ—rscore_a year_n constant_a practice_n divers_a thousand_o in_o the_o kingdom_n and_o some_o hundred_o in_o one_o particular_a parish_n because_o of_o ignorance_n and_o scandal_n be_v yet_o unfit_a to_o communicate_v maledicis_fw-la pag._n 20._o answ_n 1._o it_o be_v notorious_o false_a that_o there_o have_v be_v fourscore_o year_n constant_a practice_n of_o presbyterial_a government_n in_o scotland_n for_o the_o prelate_n there_o be_v above_o thirty_o year_n stand_v 2._o shall_v the_o earth_n be_v make_v to_o bring_v forth_o in_o one_o day_n or_o shall_v a_o nation_n be_v bear_v at_o once_o say_v the_o prophet_n isa._n 66._o 8._o it_o be_v no_o easy_a matter_n to_o get_v a_o whole_a nation_n purge_v of_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n 3._o he_o may_v take_v notice_n that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n almost_o in_o all_o his_o epistle_n make_v mention_n of_o scandalous_a person_n among_o those_o to_o who_o he_o write_v warn_v they_o not_o to_o have_v fellowship_n with_o such_o to_o note_v they_o to_o avoid_v they_o if_o the_o apostolic_a church_n be_v not_o free_a of_o such_o what_o great_a marvel_n if_o we_o be_v not_o 4._o before_o he_o object_v promiscuous_a communicate_v this_o be_v clear_v to_o be_v a_o calumny_n now_o he_o object_v that_o there_o be_v such_o as_o be_v unfit_a to_o communicate_v but_o while_o he_o thus_o seek_v a_o quarrel_n against_o church-government_n he_o do_v upon_o the_o matter_n quarrel_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n itself_o for_o â—e_z that_o impute_v it_o as_o a_o fault_n to_o the_o church-government_n that_o there_o be_v still_o divers_a thousand_o who_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorance_n or_o scandal_n be_v unfit_a to_o communicate_v do_v by_o consequence_n yea_o much_o more_o impute_v it_o as_o a_o fault_n to_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o england_n scotland_n ireland_n france_n germany_n the_o low-countries_n switzerland_n swede_n poland_n that_o in_o all_o these_o and_o other_o reform_a church_n after_o fourscore_o year_n constant_a preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v appoint_v of_o god_n to_o turn_v unconverted_a and_o unregenerate_a person_n from_o darkness_n to_o light_n and_o from_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n to_o god_n there_o be_v not_o only_o divers_a thousand_o but_o divers_a million_o who_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorance_n or_o scandal_n be_v yet_o unfit_a to_o communicate_v if_o the_o word_n do_v not_o open_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o ignorant_a and_o convert_v the_o scandalous_a what_o marvel_v that_o church-government_n can_v do_v it_o church-government_n be_v not_o a_o illuminate_n and_o regenerate_a ordinance_n as_o the_o word_n be_v but_o this_o church-government_n can_v and_o will_v do_v yea_o have_v do_v where_o it_o be_v due_o execute_v it_o be_v a_o most_o bless_a mean_n for_o keep_v the_o ordinance_n from_o visible_a and_o know_a pollution_n which_o do_v very_o much_o honour_n god_n shame_n sin_n and_o commend_v piety_n it_o put_v a_o visible_a difference_n between_o the_o precious_a and_o the_o vile_a the_o clean_a and_o the_o unclean_a the_o silver_n and_o the_o dross_n and_o may_v well_o be_v therefore_o call_v a_o church-refine_a ordinance_n the_o second_o calumny_n be_v this_o i_o myself_o say_v he_o do_v hear_v the_o presbytery_n of_o edinbrugh_n censure_v a_o woman_n to_o be_v banish_v one_o of_o the_o gate_n of_o the_o city_n i_o answer_v he_o in_o his_o own_o language_n it_o be_v at_o the_o best_a a_o most_o uncharitable_a slander_n and_o tell_v he_o there_o be_v no_o banishment_n in_o scotland_n but_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o that_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v inquire_v and_o inform_v himself_o better_a now_o he_o do_v neither_o adhere_v to_o his_o calumny_n or_o offer_v to_o make_v it_o good_a nor_o yet_o quit_v it_o or_o confess_v he_o be_v mistake_v but_o propound_v three_o new_a queres_fw-la male_a dicis_fw-la pa._n 21._o still_o forget_v his_o own_o rule_n of_o keep_v to_o the_o law_n of_o disputation_n and_o matter_n in_o hand_n for_o the_o particular_a in_o hand_n he_o only_o say_v thus_o much_o i_o do_v make_v enquiry_n and_o from_o the_o presbytery_n itself_o i_o receive_v information_n but_o not_o satisfaction_n he_o tell_v not_o what_o information_n he_o receive_v if_o he_o will_v say_v that_o he_o receive_v information_n that_o the_o banishment_n be_v by_o the_o magistrate_n how_o can_v he_o then_o report_v that_o it_o be_v by_o the_o presbytery_n if_o he_o say_v that_o the_o information_n he_o have_v from_o the_o presbytery_n give_v he_o any_o ground_n for_o the_o report_n which_o he_o have_v make_v let_v he_o speak_v it_o out_o and_o the_o world_n shall_v know_v the_o untruth_n of_o it_o he_o may_v remember_v withal_o that_o by_o his_o principle_n a_o accusation_n may_v not_o be_v receive_v against_o a_o elder_n much_o less_o against_o a_o eldership_n in_o reference_n either_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n or_o to_o ministerial_a conviction_n except_o under_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n if_o therefore_o he_o will_v have_v his_o accusation_n believe_v let_v he_o find_v two_o or_o three_o witness_n three_o whereas_o
will_v and_o then_o to_o bring_v forth_o your_o own_o apprehension_n for_o my_o argument_n chap._n viii_o that_o mr._n coleman_n do_v great_a violence_n both_o to_o his_o own_o word_n and_o to_o the_o word_n of_o other_o who_o he_o cite_v the_o reverend_a brother_n have_v offer_v extreme_a violence_n to_o his_o own_o declaration_n of_o which_o let_v the_o reader_n now_o judge_n compare_v his_o declaration_n with_o his_o interpretation_n declaration_n for_o much_o of_o what_o be_v report_v of_o my_o sermon_n i_o utter_o deny_v and_o refer_v myself_o to_o the_o sermon_n itself_o for_o what_o i_o have_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o i_o although_o it_o be_v my_o judgement_n yet_o because_o i_o see_v it_o have_v give_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o offence_n to_o this_o assembly_n and_o the_o reverend_a commissioner_n of_o scotland_n i_o be_o sorry_a i_o have_v give_v â—ffâ—nce_n in_o the_o delivery_n thereof_o and_o for_o the_o print_n although_o i_o have_v a_o order_n i_o will_v forbear_v except_o i_o be_v further_o command_v tho._n coleman_n interpretation_n it_o be_v a_o truth_n and_o a_o scripture_n truth_n which_o i_o have_v deliver_v and_o because_o i_o see_v a_o scripture_n truth_n have_v give_v offence_n to_o the_o commissioner_n of_o scotland_n etc._n etc._n i_o be_o sorry_a this_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o sense_n i_o be_o sure_a this_o be_v the_o sense_n intend_v maledicis_fw-la maledicis_fw-la pag._n 18._o sure_o if_o such_o orleans_n gloss_n be_v admit_v upon_o man_n declaration_n sign_v with_o their_o hand_n and_o if_o he_o who_o have_v subscribe_v himself_o sorry_a that_o he_o have_v give_v offence_n in_o the_o delivery_n of_o such_o a_o doctrine_n shall_v be_v allow_v to_o expound_v himself_o thus_o that_o he_o mean_v he_o be_v sorry_a other_o have_v take_v offence_n at_o a_o scripture_n truth_n that_o be_v he_o be_v sorry_a for_o our_o fault_n not_o for_o his_o own_o i_o know_v not_o how_o man_n shall_v trust_v one_o another_o declaration_n or_o how_o we_o can_v practical_o as_o well_o as_o doctrinal_o confute_v the_o jesuitical_a equivocation_n and_o mental_a reservation_n and_o if_o this_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o sense_n which_o now_o the_o reverend_a brother_n give_v and_o be_v the_o sense_n intend_v why_o say_v he_o that_o he_o do_v public_o recall_v that_o declaration_n he_o may_v make_v a_o revocation_n of_o it_o in_o the_o sense_n wherein_o i_o understand_v it_o but_o how_o can_v he_o make_v a_o revocation_n of_o it_o as_o himself_o understand_v it_o and_o as_o he_o faith_n the_o sense_n must_v needs_o be_v be_v this_o his_o sorrow_n for_o our_o take_a offence_n at_o a_o scripture_n truth_n a_o sorrow_n to_o be_v sorrow_v for_o why_o do_v he_o not_o rather_o make_v a_o second_o declaration_n the_o next_o day_n interpret_n the_o former_a and_o whereas_o he_o think_v that_o his_o revocation_n ought_v to_o have_v be_v mention_v together_o with_o his_o declaration_n because_o the_o whole_a truth_n be_v to_o be_v tell_v as_o well_o as_o the_o truth_n his_o own_o heart_n know_v that_o he_o himself_o have_v not_o tell_v the_o whole_a truth_n for_o he_o can_v tell_v much_o more_o if_o he_o please_v how_o he_o be_v bring_v upon_o the_o business_n and_o particular_o upon_o that_o revocation_n why_o will_v he_o challenge_v other_o for_o not_o tell_v the_o whole_a truth_n when_o himself_o do_v it_o not_o i_o shall_v have_v think_v that_o this_o revocation_n be_v neither_o here_o nor_o there_o as_o to_o the_o point_n of_o scandal_n for_o proof_n whereof_o his_o declaration_n be_v bring_v and_o that_o as_o it_o be_v not_o to_o the_o business_n in_o hand_n so_o it_o may_v rather_o serve_v for_o impair_v his_o credit_n then_o for_o any_o thing_n else_o but_o see_v himself_o think_v it_o more_o for_o his_o credit_n to_o tell_v the_o world_n of_o his_o say_n and_o unsay_v declare_v and_o undeclare_v let_v he_o be_v do_v in_o the_o next_o place_n will_v you_o see_v how_o much_o violence_n he_o offer_v to_o 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