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and_o not_o proper_a mat._n it_o appear_v by_o his_o own_o exposition_n of_o himself_o where_o he_o say_v in_o the_o same_o homily_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o bellarmine_n have_v allege_v super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o confessionem_fw-la i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n upon_o this_o rock_n that_o be_v upon_o this_o faith_n and_o confession_n which_o thou_o have_v make_v and_o it_o be_v justify_v to_o be_v a_o true_a exposition_n by_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o father_n as_o of_o saint_n hilary_n which_o say_v super_fw-la hanc_fw-la confessionis_fw-la triniâ—…_n petram_fw-la aedificatio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la est_fw-la upon_o this_o rock_n of_o confession_n be_v the_o church_n found_v and_o of_o cyrillus_n which_o say_v petram_fw-la opinor_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la inconoussam_fw-la &_o firmissimam_fw-la discipulifiden_n vocavit_fw-la he_o call_v the_o faith_n of_o s._n peter_n arocke_n because_o it_o be_v steadfast_a as_o a_o rock_n that_o can_v be_v move_v and_o by_o the_o way_n to_o prevent_v that_o which_o may_v in_o subtlety_n but_o not_o in_o sincerity_n be_v object_v against_o we_o that_o the_o foundation_n must_v be_v answerable_a to_o the_o building_n but_o we_o which_o be_v build_v upon_o that_o foundation_n be_v all_o live_a stone_n and_o 5._o we_o come_v to_o he_o which_o be_v also_o a_o live_a stone_n disallow_v of_o man_n which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n as_o the_o building_n be_v personal_a so_o there_o must_v be_v a_o personal_a foundation_n the_o person_n of_o man_n be_v these_o live_a stone_n i_o answer_v the_o only_a true_a and_o proper_a foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v christ_n as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v no_o other_o foundation_n can_v any_o man_n lay_v then_o that_o which_o 11._o be_v already_o lay_v which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n i_o will_v therefore_o explain_v the_o meaning_n of_o saint_n chrysostome_n saint_n hillary_n and_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o contention_n about_o word_n which_o be_v they_o understand_v howsoever_o be_v they_o confound_v or_o distinguish_v the_o worship_v of_o they_o be_v the_o breach_n of_o god_n commandment_n where_o we_o be_v forbid_v to_o worship_v any_o grave_a image_n or_o 20._o the_o likeness_n of_o any_o thing_n second_o this_o negative_a proof_n draw_v from_o scripture_n be_v no_o sufficient_a argument_n but_o contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o disputation_n as_o be_v plain_o set_v down_o in_o the_o topic_n call_v pronunciatum_fw-la authoritas_fw-la non_fw-la valet_fw-la agricola_n in_o negativis_fw-la three_o i_o bring_v instance_n against_o he_o out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n where_o the_o image_n of_o a_o calf_n be_v call_v a_o idol_n for_o so_o say_v saint_n stephen_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o make_v a_o calf_n in_o those_o day_n 41._o and_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o a_o idol_n there_o in_o plain_a term_n the_o image_n or_o true_a representation_n of_o a_o calf_n 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the_o matter_n whereof_o it_o be_v make_v as_o wood_n stone_n mettle_n but_o nothing_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o form_n because_o it_o represent_v that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v as_o before_o by_o denial_n in_o as_o much_o as_o the_o golden_a calf_n be_v for_o the_o matter_n gold_n represent_v that_o which_o in_o form_n be_v somewhat_o a_o bodily_a substance_n animal_n mugibile_fw-la a_o low_a beast_n and_o that_o i_o may_v make_v a_o better_a exposition_n of_o saint_n paul_n word_n out_o of_o s._n paul_n himself_o of_o that_o proposition_n idolum_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la a_o idol_n be_v nothing_o as_o in_o matter_n it_o be_v something_o so_o in_o respect_n of_o any_o divine_a virtue_n in_o it_o which_o the_o idolater_n ascribe_v to_o it_o it_o be_v nothing_o and_o again_o by_o the_o analogy_n of_o that_o place_n it_o be_v nothing_o either_o in_o respect_n of_o sanctification_n or_o pollution_n of_o those_o meat_n which_o be_v offer_v to_o it_o and_o if_o 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shadow_n of_o man_n fly_v fantasy_n and_o imagination_n of_o the_o brain_n which_o we_o think_v we_o see_v when_o nothing_o be_v before_o our_o eye_n ghost_n apparition_n of_o such_o as_o be_v dead_a to_o which_o i_o answer_v out_o of_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a bible_n which_o be_v of_o better_a authority_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n then_o ever_o eustachius_n be_v that_o the_o word_n image_n be_v also_o use_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o in_o imagine_v transit_fw-la homo_fw-la man_n pass_v away_o as_o a_o 16._o image_n or_o a_o shadow_n and_o job_n say_v in_o the_o thought_n of_o the_o vision_n of_o the_o night_n when_o sleep_n fall_v on_o man_n fear_n come_v upon_o i_o and_o dread_v which_o make_v all_o my_o bone_n to_o tremble_v and_o the_o wind_n pass_v before_o i_o and_o make_v the_o hair_n of_o my_o flesh_n to_o stand_v up_o then_o stand_v one_o i_o know_v not_o not_o his_o face_n &_o imago_fw-la animage_n be_v before_o my_o eye_n and_o in_o silence_n hear_v i_o a_o voice_n etc._n etc._n thus_o under_o a_o colour_n and_o show_v of_o learning_n have_v he_o make_v a_o idle_a and_o fruitless_a discourse_n to_o entangle_v the_o simple_a reader_n with_o no_o small_a prejudice_n to_o the_o romish_a religion_n which_o be_v defend_v by_o such_o sleight_n shift_n rather_o than_o by_o manifest_a truth_n this_o scruple_n be_v remove_v it_o remain_v in_o the_o second_o place_n that_o we_o discuss_v this_o question_n whether_o image_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v or_o not_o and_o herein_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n they_o do_v teach_v because_o in_o their_o church_n they_o worship_v image_n &_o set_v they_o up_o to_o be_v worship_v and_o enjoin_v the_o people_n to_o adore_v they_o and_o yet_o not_o able_a to_o stand_v in_o the_o defence_n thereof_o by_o their_o writer_n they_o forsake_v their_o old_a defence_n and_o by_o their_o canon_n deny_v that_o any_o divine_a worship_n be_v due_a unto_o they_o for_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v these_o word_n imagine_v 25._o christi_n &_o sanctorum_fw-la honorandae_fw-la sunt_fw-la modo_fw-la tamen_fw-la in_o imaginibus_fw-la non_fw-la collocetur_fw-la fiducia_fw-la nec_fw-la ab_fw-la ijs_fw-la aliquid_fw-la petatur_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la esse_fw-la credatur_fw-la aliqua_fw-la divinit_fw-la as_o sed_fw-la solum_fw-la honorentur_fw-la propter_fw-la eos_fw-la quos_fw-la nobis_fw-la repraesentant_fw-la image_n be_v to_o be_v honour_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v and_o they_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v only_o with_o such_o limitation_n that_o we_o put_v no_o trust_n or_o confidence_n in_o they_o that_o we_o pray_v not_o unto_o they_o that_o we_o ascribe_v not_o any_o divine_a virtue_n to_o they_o but_o only_o they_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v for_o their_o sake_n who_o image_n they_o be_v and_o who_o likeness_n they_o represent_v to_o us._n there_o you_o see_v plain_o what_o their_o doctrine_n be_v how_o they_o deny_v they_o adoration_n and_o yet_o by_o their_o practice_n they_o do_v not_o only_o prostrate_v themselves_o before_o they_o as_o the_o gentile_n do_v before_o their_o idol_n but_o plain_o show_v in_o action_n that_o they_o suppose_v some_o divine_a power_n to_o be_v in_o they_o in_o that_o they_o pray_v to_o they_o and_o by_o their_o long_a peregrination_n weary_a themselves_o in_o visit_v some_o image_n rather_o than_o other_o yea_o they_o travel_v very_o far_o to_o prostrate_v themselves_o before_o the_o image_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o other_o saint_n in_o far_a country_n when_o they_o have_v in_o their_o own_o church_n at_o home_n the_o image_n of_o the_o same_o saint_n yea_o far_o more_o beautiful_a than_o be_v abroad_o bellarmine_n say_v omnes_fw-la cruces_fw-la ador_n amus_fw-la we_o adore_v all_o image_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o yet_o
say_v bellarmine_n though_o first_o they_o know_v he_o yet_o when_o they_o make_v the_o calf_n they_o have_v forget_v he_o how_o prove_v he_o that_o fecerunt_fw-la 105._o vitulum_fw-la in_o horeb_n they_o make_v a_o calf_n in_o horeb_n they_o worship_v the_o melt_a image_n &_o forget_v god_n which_o save_v they_o and_o do_v wonderful_a thing_n in_o egypt_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v by_o distinction_n that_o forgetfulness_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n one_o which_o be_v ignorance_n when_o a_o man_n let_v slip_v out_o of_o his_o memory_n that_o which_o once_o he_o know_v or_o hear_v or_o see_v as_o when_o peter_n hear_v the_o cock_n crow_n he_o remember_v the_o word_n of_o jesus_n the_o other_o of_o ingratude_n as_o where_o it_o be_v write_v the_o butler_n do_v 75._o not_o remember_v joseph_n but_o forget_v he_o that_o be_v he_o be_v ingrateful_a 23_o to_o he_o and_o in_o that_o sense_n the_o israelite_n forget_v god_n again_o any_o impiety_n negligence_n presumption_n disobedience_n be_v 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