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A85422 VVater-dipping no firm footing for Church-communion: or Considerations proving it not simply lawful, but necessary also (in point of duty) for persons baptized after the new mode of dipping, to continue communion with those churches, or imbodied societies of saints, of which they were members before the said dipping; and that to betray their trust or faith given unto Jesus Christ to serve him in the relation and capacity, whether of officers, or other members, in these churches (respectively) by deserting these churches, is a sin highly provoking in the sight of God. Together with a post-script touching the pretended Answer to the Forty queries about Church-communion, infant and after baptism. By John Goodwin, a servant of God in the Gospel of his dear Son. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1653 (1653) Wing G1213; Thomason E723_15; ESTC R202234 72,402 91

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gospel_n order_n do_v virtual_o prohibit_v man_n baptise_a communion_n with_o unbaptised_a in_o church-fellowship_n as_o that_o which_o be_v contrary_a thereunto_o but_o at_o what_o a_o distance_n do_v his_o proof_n stand_v from_o his_o position_n as_o if_o they_o be_v mere_a stranger_n to_o it_o for_o 1._o his_o first_o proof_n be_v build_v upon_o a_o clear_a mistake_n of_o the_o word_n teach_v go_v and_o teach_v all_o nation_n mat._n 28._o 19_o and_o indeed_o upon_o a_o misunderstand_n of_o the_o whole_a verse_n for_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o to_o teach_v do_v not_o signify_v to_o teach_v man_n so_o as_o to_o make_v they_o willing_a to_o obey_v the_o gospel_n which_o sense_n notwithstanding_o bear_v the_o whole_a burden_n of_o his_o first_o proof_n of_o the_o say_a position_n this_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n be_v i_o believe_v never_o hear_v of_o from_o any_o author_n that_o have_v write_v in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n and_o however_o can_v 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faithfulness_n yet_o they_o have_v falsify_v the_o trust_n repose_v in_o they_o by_o christ_n and_o act_v short_a of_o their_o commission_n if_o they_o do_v not_o at_o all_o time_n when_o they_o preach_v make_v those_o to_o who_o they_o preach_v actual_a believer_n this_o consider_v how_o impertinent_a and_o insulse_fw-la be_v that_o conceit_n that_o a_o injunction_n to_o baptise_v be_v therefore_o put_v by_o a_o participle_n of_o the_o present_a tense_n teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o etc._n etc._n to_o imply_v that_o they_o be_v present_o to_o baptise_v man_n upon_o their_o be_v teach_v if_o this_o be_v so_o all_o person_n whatsoever_o to_o who_o the_o gospel_n be_v at_o any_o time_n preach_v by_o the_o apostle_n be_v upon_o their_o bare_a hear_n of_o it_o and_o whether_o they_o believe_v or_o blaspheme_v to_o have_v be_v baptise_v by_o they_o and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o sense_n at_o all_o in_o these_o word_n as_o all_o
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